Life, Death & Mythology in Adventure Time: The Real Life Inspirations for OOO's Lore!
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What Adventure Time breakdown would you like to see next or what aspect of this greater lore should I make a special video focusing on?
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Maybe about the elements and elementals?
Jakes red doggy rocket
I wonder is there a version of the lich inside of Fiona and cake world
Golb is basically Angra Mainyu from Zoroastrianism. They even reference the yashts, where the hero retrieves his brother from Mainyu's bowels much like Jake does to Finn and Simon.
The reason we see golb when Finn leaves pillow world is because Finn created a universe that doesn't exist through his spiritual projection, so once he left that world golb being the embodiment of chaos and nothingness was soon to be heading to that universe to return it back to nothing since the universe had no reason to be existing anymore now that Finn had left it. Which is why when Finn tried to explain what happened he couldn't remember because golb already erased it from existence. We see how golb causes chaos first in the last A.T episode so imagine that in pillow world before the sweet bliss of being returned to nothingness.
That means the Jerry world will be erased too, since its existence was created by the lich's wish. Now that the lich was turned into a tetris block, the Jerry world no longer need to exist.
So THAT'S why he forgot! 😮
How did Finn create the pillow world. Why was Finn the centre aspect of it. And since it was consumed by Golb and forgotten, why wasn’t Margles forgotten when she was consumed?
I don’t believe that theory. I’m pretty sure the episode “The Lich” books says that two unrelated universes can become temporarily linked by naturally forming wormholes. It also says something about a “temporal synchronization” on both sides of the opening to allow the safe passage of particles between two non local regions of space time, which I’m pretty sure explains why time passes at different rates on both ends?
@@isaiahcomfort2931i don't think youve seen fionna and cake yet
This postmodern fantasy masterpiece went from like an 8/10 to a 10/10 the moment the narrative and episodes started becoming more spiritual and cosmic. It's just layers and layers of the most interesting concepts of literature and general entertainment of all time all put together.
Golb is basically Angra Mainyu from Zoroastrianism. They even reference the yashts, where the hero retrieves his brother from Mainyu's bowels much like Jake does to Finn and Simon.
That is brilliant, I Didn't make that connection
@@CartoonUniverse Thanks! It's pretty obscure, but it seems clear as day to me.
I love what I've read on Zoroastrianism, but its something I'm always trying to dig more into, the only texts I've really jumped in on were some of the apocalyptic stuff, but I always loved that idea of leading Angra Mainyu into a trap.@@carlosalbuquerque22
@@CartoonUniverse Yeah. I recommend the yashts and the Shahnameh
Also in the book where Golb is portrayed, the chicken-snake hybrid (Malus) on the left page of the book seems to be heavily inspired by Abraxas, a gnostic entity. The letters A, B, X, S around it hints at that fact too.
Though I'm still watching the video as I comment this, so they might have commented on this later on in the video
Adventure time is a show that has definitely carved its path in history, this show in general is always gonna be a classic
I want to point out a few things. First of all, the catalysts comets are the embodiment of certain aspects of the universe. The green one is the embodiment of evil and extinction, which was reincarnated into the lich. The blue one that hit Earth not to long ago after the mushroom war is the embodiment of good, who is now Finn. The reason why the blue one hit was because it was to counteract the Lich. Also, it is theorized that the Lich was a primordial who was killed and get reincarnated as a catalyst comet. Meanwhile, Finn was never one. Also, not everyone on Earth is a catalyzes comet, only certain people are.
Also, I want to add that all souls have the choose to reincarnation, however, certain ones have no choose and have to reincarnate. Like Finn and Jake, because Finn is a catalyst comet and Jake is Finn's soulmate. (Soulmate as in they will always find each other in each life, not the lover kind.)
The Lich being a Primordial theory falls apart when you remember that Primordials can't really die. The Lich died and his soul ended up in the Deadworld. The way I see it, Scholars of GOLB are different from Primordials
@@Blueninja-xt4ci Jake is implied to be a catalyst comet as well, being someone that always reincarnates, is deeply tied with catalyst comet reincarnations such as Finn and The Lich, and has extremely powerful abilities such as his (now inactive) imagination powers being able to warp reality. He seems to embody creativity, and we know there was a yellow catalyst comet as well
They, as their names imply, are catalysts in which major changes in the world happens whenever one appears.
Right
I think its worth Mentioning that The Only way Betty Survived the Mushroom war was Because Simon took Care of Marcelene who aloud Betty to travel to the Future!
Curiously, why are you capitalizing random words?
@@marlowepup9863 wHy ArEn't yOu!?
@@marlowepup9863I used to capitalize every word when I was younger, maybe it’s something like that?
@@oberonpanopticon I've seen people do that too, and aside from Honestuck fans imitating Kanaya, I don't get why people do that
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For anyone wondering about the term “Monkeys paw effect” is based off of a writing by W. W. Jacobs.
The writing is a story where a family obtain a Mummified Monkey’s Paw that grants wishes to those who hold it. Unfortunately the wish comes at a very terrible price. As an example the family wished for 10 pounds (I think it was 10). Later their son goes to work and his co worker goes to his house an hour later delivering the news that their son got caught in the machinery and died. The company as a gift if apology gave them *10 pounds*.
200 pounds, but close!
@@christabelle__ 190 off lol 😅
Yea I remember reading that story in high school lol
@@bluecoconut9543 I read it in middle school lmao
I was reading about that too. A game series called S.T.A.L.K.E.R has the same concept that goes by the Wish Granter and if someone wishes for riches they will die by gold coins raining from the sky
I’ve been wondering, what if the monkey’s paw effect for the Lich’s dead world was his inability to find satisfaction in the destruction?
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Maybe. Extinction through a wish is a bit anticlimactic, especially considering that it was pretty much instant so the Lich couldn't even enjoy the moment
Nah, he mentions to GOLB that his purpose was fulfilled so he felt there was nothing else for him. His existence was meaningless now that his reason to live is gone.
@@Ichiyama22 He did enjoy the moment, he laughed maniacally as he got transported to his wish world. But the moment didn't last long it seems.
@@OmniversalInsectHe enjoyed the brief feeling of victory like Megamind did when he thought he effortlessly killed Metroman, but like Megamind it didn't take long for him to realize that because the win was essentially handed to him that there's nothing else to do. He needs a system to decay in order to feel fulfilled, without one he feels he has no purpose.
Gunther’s problem wasn’t a lack of intelligence, but a lack of love. It’s not that he misunderstood, who Evergreen was or what was being asked of him he just didn’t have the emotional growth to be able to make a wish unencumbered by all the suffering he had faced in his life from an uncaring, father figure who used them more as a tool than a person. I don’t know why you’re claiming that Gunther was basically a talking fish when it’s pretty clear his problem is that he was naïve, because Evergreen didn’t even bother, teaching him anything beyond doing his manual labor.
None of that is relevant when you realize the crown not just grants a wish, but grants someone's deepest wish. I think the crown's creator truly wanted to save the world by stopping the comet. Gunter's deepest desire was to be just like his father. His physical change shows his mental age and naivety
@@offspringfan100 sure but the thing is he was claiming that Gunther was a barely cognizant animal who could not comprehend things. I think he was just being an evergreen apologist, but Evergreen doesn’t deserve the forgiveness of pretending that Gunther was less than an order to justify why his harebrained scheme failed in the first place
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You're wrong about the 'Jerry' universe. It's explained in 'crossover' that even if a wish is undone by someone else the magic still needs to go somewhere. This is why farmworld exists. Originally Finn's wish transformed Ooo into farmworld, but then Jake wish made it so that Finn never made his wish, thus farmworld because a paralel universe instead. Same with the litch he wished for the extinction of all life everywhere, but Finn undid that wish, the magic of that wish still had to go somewhere and thus it created 'jerry universe'.
Also i don't think it's ever fully confirmed the lich is one of the primordials before time, i think it's more implied that he just has knowledge of the time before the universe, which to me seems reasonable for a being who is a scolar of Golb that he'd learn about that
How do we know any of these things as absolute facts though, that’s what bothers me about all of this stuff
I don’t remeber the show explaining half of the stuff you guys are talking about, and even then it seems like people are streatching the few things we DO get explained
@@Sleepy_Muse i mean i don't disagree that i could be wrong, but i'm just going with what i remember what was explained by the characters in the show itself.
There is a theory about a war between primordial beings, could it be that one side were the Scholars of Golb?
Pretty sure the wishes just make a new Universe every time and put the wish maker in it, because in f&c prismo shows a bunch of universes and says "a wish made this universe" if it was just changing them he wouldn't need to make a new one
@@beanbagburritono, i still think that depends on the wish. Otherwise there was no point to finn & jake stopping the lich's wish in the first place
The greatest tragedy of this series is we never got a full fledged open world game. I've always wanted a open world game exploring the land of Ooo
you can try some fan games
Yes. Though I think the extent of Ooo’s universe means it might take literal centuries to make
The closest thing we have now is the Minecraft mash-up pack.
Thought honestly, that would be super hard. Just trying to create a system for the abilities, races, and even mapping out the the world of ooo itself. Doubt that anyone would make a really good open world game of adventure time any time soon.
Probably not an open world game but maybe a dungeon crawler or something would be delectable.
Super appreciated this. After Fiona and Cake, really needed a refresher on the deeper lore like the comets and Lich's origin.
I don’t think that Simon is a reincarnate of Evergreen because Simon isn’t an elemental. They also don’t share the same ideals. Even though both tried to save their world, Simon was doing it for the good of the world while Evergreen was doing it for self preservation, similar to his actual reincarnate, Patience St. Pim. Patience freezes herself so she doesn’t die which is self preservation. I don’t hate this video but there’s definitely a lot of thing’s incorrect
Simon could be a candidate to being an elemental though, not inheriting the innate powers because Patience St. Pim kept herself alive.
@@cardboard.sp00n19 actually patience was from the same time period as Simon so I don't see how that would work
@@cardboard.sp00n19it was confirmed by patience that simon isn't an elemental, as his powers stem from the wish of the crown, not the crown itself or from an elemental proficiency.
@@cardboard.sp00n19Patience Pim was from the same time as Simon....
Evergreen wanted to he could have put himself into a globe
God it’s like someone’s trying to explain theoretical physics to me but the edible just kicked in
Damn its weird I never thought of Gunther not wanting to be Orgalorg again when I saw that episode,for some reason I keep thinking of the characters as one fixed being despite that obviously not being the case for Sweet Pea and Gunther and that they basically want to break their cycles of being stuck as the same beings they were for eons.
I guess he loved being a penguin so much, and Ice King too despite being annoyed by him, explaining the ice crown being reset as a wish granter again making him into "Ice Thing" and that is actually quite wholesome to think about.
It's really sweet that the original Gunther wish turned the crown's wearer into a maniac who bosses around "gunthers", but Simon was such a good person that he ended up treating the "gunthers" well. And that led to Gunther's wish to be like Ice King, showing us just how highly the penguins thought of him.
That was a super insightful breakdown. I absolutely love the idea that Gunther and evergreen are Simon and Finn incarnations. It really connects their dynamics and tragedies in a satisfying way imo
Why would Simon be a reincarnation of evergreen? The show makes it clear that patience is the reincarnation of evergreen.
I'm not sure about the "Simon used to be evergreen" interpretation. Isn't it Patience? The current ice elemental? Patience refers to PB, fire princess and slime princess as being reencarnations of the elementals of her time.
The similarities are probably just a result of the crown turning Simon into a caricature of evergreen. I also saw online that even inspite of the pararells, gunther isn't a previous encarnation of Finn.
There's no way Gunther could have been an incarnation of Finn because Finn is descended from the blue catalyst comet, which only came AFTER the Mushroom War.
Golb is literally just a machine that has no resaon or purpose, only a function that he carries out or waits till he can and i love it
This is something about Adventure Time that inspires my creativity so much
the show is incredibly inspirational in every aspect!
something to point out:
when Prismo first shows up and explains the Lich's wish, he says "guess it must've changed his timeline or something."
in my mind, this basically confirms that "Jerry's" world from Fionna and Cake isn't the ORIGINAL Ooo timeline, but instead a cloned timeline much like Farmworld, only the split occurs much later on because the Lich was very direct, whereas Finn's wish had to be very roundabout.
This is such a great video explaining the mythology and philosophy of Adventure Time. It made me understand the spiritual meaning on a deeper level and appreciate the creative genius of it more. Thank you so much. 💚
Evergreen is the ice elemental which means he reincarnates with he's latest reincarnation being Patience St. Pim so Simon can't be he's reincarnation
Golb makes me think of the eldrazi from magic the gathering, basically 3 titans that manifested in the void between worlds, and whose job seems to be finishing off dying world and returning it to the aether it came from(essence of creation basically)
Golb is basically Angra Mainyu from Zoroastrianism. They even reference the yashts, where the hero retrieves his brother from Mainyu's bowels much like Jake does to Finn and Simon.
@@carlosalbuquerque22 I didn’t know that, and thank you for telling me
@@pokegard You're welcome
love all the spirital and mythilogical aspects of this show. thisis a excillent break down and very well done!
God I love this show and am so grateful for it. Here I am once again about to go down a rabbit hole researching life, death, high empathy and nihilistic chaos. As a bratty teenager that watched this with my little sister whom I was responsible for, I secretly loved it so much. I think the deep layers of mindfulness unpeeled in adventure time definitely helped mold me into the person I am, and a better adult than I may have become.
I think Prismos boss is GLOB. Glob is used as a replacement for God in many phrases so it would makes sense. Also GLOB would be maybe an opposite to GOLB.
I’m not sure if it’s glob
Stop spreading out ridiculous speculation. I think you're confusing Glob here. Glob is character from Adventure Time. He is one of the deity from Mars, and he is generally seen as God because of his legends, stories, and his heroism in Mars.
The phrase "Oh my Glob" and other god phrases are popularized by the Candy people who believe and worship in Glob. (They also got a whole church of him)
Glob is not Prismo's boss, and definitely not the opposite of GOLB, as Glob and GOLB is completely unrelated at all, aside from similar appearance in red and diamond-shaped head.
Well it's confirmed that Orbo is Prismo's (and Scarab's) boss, but whoever Orbo answers to would likely be the creator of the multiverse
@@bailey57401that would be the cosmic imagination, which is orbo's boss
@@outrowedmaybe do a bit more research b4 writing people off. Golb seems to based off of zoroastrianism, and in that religion there are 2 central deities in which they cancel each other out. If golb is the chaos and the anti god, i see not reason why glob cant be a benevolent creator. Get your head of out of your ass.
I've noticed a lot of this stuff about this show and I think the writers intentionally put it in there because I believe their spiritual lists that believe some of it to be true. I believe they also put it in a child show so that children would be able to learn about these higher spiritual experiences on this knowingly and apply them to their lives to make them a better generation. You may think this is crazy but it seems to be very evident by what they've done so far with the show and what the creators of the show say they believe in. Vesides is it really so crazy to think that a couple cartoon creators may have saw the broader implications of being able to inspire an entire generation and decided to try and do something to change the world. It's also another reason why I believe so many adults like the show so much.
This might be one of my favorite analysis videos for the series, and i’ve seen a ton! Especially love how you connected Earth to being a “prison” for higher beings, but also as a place to grow and prosper for its more “normal” citizens. Everything was super informative and backed with evidence which made the video really easy to follow! Subbed :D
That take of Golb makes me wonder about what really happened to Margles .
The lich’s wish probably didnt even kill all life in the original universe, as why would that one be the only large-scale wish to actually affect it
My theory is that lich was once a giant in a world of giants before discovering the dark magic of chaos and being corrupted by it, this is why sweet p is a giant, this was his fate along with all others of his kind and the end of the first ever time. This theory is supported by the fact that these primordials are essentially gods and / or demons and it could be playing off of Greek mythology, where the gods were giants and are descended from giants, though ones that managed to harness or could innately use the powers of the universe that be.
Sweet p was a giant because he was born from Billy’s skeleton possessed by the lich and Billy was a giant.
@@billypillypersonalEE oh ok
@@catattack885don't feel shut down your theory was cool
@@deondrex18k oh ok
When I was a little kid, I thought all the war stuff in the background felt strange, not knowing what it meant. The Lich king episode felt so weird, it was dark and not like the usual goofy adventure.
Patience is Urgence Evergreen, not Simon. The being an elemental and name make it obvious.
There's some interesting theories presented in this, but I admit there's a bit of inconsistency between quite a bit of them. Especially in the case of how the wish room operates with the creation of realities, and stuff surrounding reincarnation and comets.
This is a really good breakdown and gives me a lot of new perspective to think about, good job. I think the only one I can truly counter is within the comets description, gunter the dinosaur is not really finn because the blue comet has not hit the earth yet. Or a you saying that the comet not hitting the earth is irrelevant since farmworld finn also has been born even when the comet misses. You could say that the comet can reincarnated in the future and the past even without hitting the earth thus creating finn gunther? XD
im honestly so grateful this is the show i grew up with. adventure time has helped me grow in my spiritual journey and i love looking into all the different stories that went way over my head as a kid. fantastic video!
I think that Gunther did not appear as one of Finn's forms is because we saw that Gunther was in the crown with more of the crown users that died or stil alive.
So what I'm trying to say is that every person that died when the crown was on him is now stuck in the crown but ther soul is being reincarnated.
Golb does feel somewhat like a Hindu God, some sort of destroyer, but not necessarily in an evil way, just as part of the great cycle of creation and destruction.
This was so beautiful. Well done! 😊
love the video!!!!! great job Deepcut!
You know, I just realized they made some huge retcon shenanigans with the crown in the last episode.
You have to remember that Evergreen was super arrogant so he designed the crown to judge the soul and grant their truest wish because he assumed that he was pure of heart and could put the world above his desires, which is something that would’ve burned them, even without Gunther using the crown, something the other elementals pretty much told him would happen.
But then, in the finale instead of judging Betty, it just takes a request that needs multiple tries because of reasons, constraints and blah blah excuses. But if they had been consistent with the crown, it would’ve just grabbed her wish to be with Simon teleport of them somewhere where they could be together forever and you know doom the rest of Ooo.
No what's happening is that those first two wishes were against Golb, and they didn't work because you can wish Golb away or making him not exists, the crown was failing to do the wishes
@@jeanduresau but think about it Gunther didn’t ask for a wish it just read his heart and understood his desire to be his masters equal and created a perverse translation of that.
Why did Betty have to ask for her wish specifically when it would’ve done the same?
Betty like Evergreen it’s not a perfect being who can control their heart. There’s no way that the truest wish in her heart wasn’t just to be with Simon and not this self-sacrificing protection gambit she pulled out when her other request failed.
@emeraldpichu1 But where would they be teleported to? A new universe? Does the crown even have that power? It can't be somewhere in Ooo because the mere presence of golb in the universe of Ooo means it will be erased, so golb had to be sent back somehow. I still kinda agree that it was retconed tho. Probably for the sake of drama, which isn't really bad.
@@chopp6587 if it can, ensnare the soul of the primordial chaos god then it can move someone across the Multiverse
Imagine explaining all of this to the new generations and to our past self
it’s giving Atlantis/Lemuria inspiration that’s so cool, I never noticed that until you mentioned it at the beginning
Was waiting for this video, noice!
I have learned so much of how to just live in this world as a functioning human being with the goals of just being a better person tomorrow as I was today through the psycho-evolution theory and historical lore presented through the lens of cartoons that you provide. Thank you!
this is such a great video i loved it. really good explained and broken down. i love the philosophy of adventure time
best adventure time essay I've seen yet. man this show is amazing
I love Adventure Time. This is my favorite show.
I think, in the pillow world, when Finn dies there and travels back to Ooo, he sees Golb going to eat the pillow world and take it out of existence. That’s why he can’t remember the pillow world after he gets back, because it is consumed by Golb and ceases to exist. Although, I don’t know why he’d forget about the pillow world after it ceases to exist, but magic man remembers Margles after she is consumed by Golb.
Ive studied the world religions, and Ive had my own experiences with the other side on dmt and such things. This show was made with a lot of spiritual and heady stuff baked right in, and I feel the character arcs are beyond what one would expect to find in a "kid show". Such a good piece of cinema/art. What a time to be alive to experience it!
Someone else might have mentioned this but Martin wasn't related to the comets until he left with the purple one. It's based on the soul/spirit reincarnating not the blood line continuing
And Simon isn't a reincarnation of evergreen, that's what the ice elemental is. Simon/Ice King is just a knock off elemental because of the crown
As someone who just watched a couple episodes as a kid adventure time has mad Zelda feels
the lich was first introduced during billys theme song as it goes whos the greatest warrior ever a hero of renown who slayed a evil ocean who cast the lich king down. when it says cast the lich king down it shows a scene of billy kicking the lich in the face
Life and Death and Love and Birth and Peace and War on the Planet Earth.
Im gonna toss a theory out there.
Given what went on with Martin by the end of the original series and Fionna and Cake.... Maybe Martin achieved some very powerful magic, cosmic power, or divinity (even before ascending to another plane of existence) and that's what Glob was reading?
Maybe he had a similar potency to a Catalyst Comet...
Or the one that was coming was just that much more potent then what was considered "normal"?
Fantastic video!
Really good video man
It’s nice to see more adventure time videos because I barely see any
This was sooooo good
An amazing video thank you
🔥video Ong even tho I haven’t watched it
Great video thank you!
loved this. this was cool
Amazing Vid!
Adventure time creators were lowkey geniuses
"Bee Em Oh" 5:09
Don't disrespect our boy like that
Excellent essay!
I have made it my life's mission to call out every person who pronounces "nuclear" wrong. That being said, excellent video. I freakin love Adventure Time.
Damn this is one of the better AT essays out there.
We will definitely see more of the Lich with the hands and the fact Fionna and Cake should now get one of sorts.
I don't think they will have one in their world unless one comes from another universe as the Lich invaded the multiverse before Fionna & Cake's universe was merged with the rest.
Very intellectual! Love it ❤
Wow! Insane amount of research.
Honestly a great video
Adventure times borrows a lot of ideas from Gnostic, Indo-Aryan ( i.e Hinduism Zoroastrianism, Buddhism etc), other asian belief system and some Greek mythology to builds its own mythology. And where it exceeds at is keeping it palatable to the audience without making it too much complicated yet still interesting for lore junkies.
That one episode where Finn goes to pillow land completely reminds me of that story of a guy who got hit in the head with a football and basically dreamed the next 10 years of his life and it ended when his red lamp started morphing, look up the story to understand more haha
I love it when the story has a post apocalyptic world or was
3:52 i disagree cause all the jewels in that universes crown was in the crown and not outside of the candy kingdom and the crown was in the drum when we know it wasn't cause ice king was wearing it and also the crown jewels was outside of the candy kingdom
great video
I dont wnow why, but the only thing I can say after this video is "WOW"
Thank you
Dang good job on the video.
Also I wonder if the parents of the kids that watched this would still think of this as just a cartoon when hearing this. Lol
That bgm is the type of content I like to see.
The destination of Golbetty on the bus in the last episode of F&C was translated to be “Comet” from the enchiridion language… I’ve been trying to figure out what that could mean…
Sorry to break it to you, but those symbols being "translated" to comet was a lie, there's no actual translation of those symbols, the person who supposedly translated it was lying
I just have to say a huge THANK YOU for making this video. I love this show, especially because of the deeper messages contained within. I really appreciate your take on this, including these aspects that I think likely mean a lot to the makers of this show--part of what makes Adventure Time such a treasure. 💖
Thank u🎉🎉
Goated video 🗿
That's some good writing about some good writing ❤
BEST VIDEO EVER
HI I love your vids
Ironically by cutting Farmworld Jake-Lichs hand and sent it into the multiverse, they turned him into a Demilich.
Though they are just single bodyparts of the former lich, demilichs are prefered and evolved forms that bound their soul rather into indestructable Gems than an Phylacterian.
They are often multiversal beings (the hand set into every single Multiverse in AT) that can cross dimensions easily and posses godlike powers (Lich at one point get in control to the deaths son).
I really think he is inspired by the Demlich from D&D.
16:20 so doesn’t this mean that ooo 1000+ years into the future had a new comet?
Question is tho, what did that comet even do.
I love adventure time so much
😮 i love your video ❤
As someone who pretty much stopped watching AT after the first season, this was quite the ride.
W vid keep it up
really love ur take on this, it gave me a whole new perspective of the lore behind AT and only makes me appreciate the show more
That was deep
i didnt know just how unbelievably though out the mythology was in this show.
Top five yt vids of all time