This NAS Has A Powerful Secret! - Asustor 5404T Review & Setup Guide
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2023
- As a video and photo editor, I've been waiting for mainstream NAS's to 'catch up' with the speed of computers, and for a while there it seemed like it was never going to happen. Then along came the Asustor Nimbustor 4 Gen 2, which not only has four HDD bays, as is typical, but also FOUR M.2 SSD slots! But how does it actually work in the real world, and how does one even set it up to make it FAST? Let's find out!
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Why You Need A NAS 0:40
The Hardware 1:30
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Hardware Configuration 4:41
Assembly 5:56
Benchmarks & Speed Tests 8:30
Network Configuration 9:40
RAM & Processor Configuration 15:25
Volume / Disk Formatting 16:18
Use a UPS 18:05
Editing Performance 18:53
Data Redundancy 21:19
Conclusions 22:29
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Correction: The USB ports are capable of 10Gbps. Which is good for externally attached storage. Maybe someday there will be a 10Gbps ethernet adapter for USB that I can try on that (currently they're all thunderbolt 3/4). Although it would likely never reach a full 10Gbps on USB, it could still be much faster than 2.5Gbps!
Seems out of everything this is one area they could improve this device. Other than this one thing it's an awesome little machine!
I was hoping the new lockerstor revision would add 10Gb ports, but unfortunately they didn’t. Apparently those ports are still too expensive for this price point? Hmm
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Thanks so much, Michael! Merry Christmas!
Hola muchas gracias. Muy interesante el video, para Latam las velocidades son mucho menores pero con tu video me diste grandes ideas de como iniciar la configuracion de mi Asustor Nimbustor. ya que actualmente tengo otra NAS Synologi la cual se queda muy corta para lo que requiero hoy en dia. Asi que es hora de migrar mis datos y mi entorno de trabajo diferente.
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After looking for awhile I think Asustor is going to be my first NAS. I have 4 extra 20TBs already good to go and a set of 4 NVME also ready. I'm probably moving about 1TB per month of data so I need something quick lol the 3 drives I use are all almost filled - all 10TB each.
Looking forward for the network setup video!
I decided to buy the 2 bay version of this one and set-up the nvme like you did (the volumes at 1tb each instead of 4) and the cache 500gb each + 2 16TB hard drives.
My goal is mostly photo backups (im not a pro photographer) but i would love to be able to edid the raw doles in lightroom straight from the wifi. Thats where my selfish interest in the network setup xomes from. 😂
Thanks for sharing!
Hoping to film it this week!
Nice! Found your channel with a very good timing!
Great video…I may need to hire someone to set one of these up for me someday…my eyes glaze over with some of this tech speak stuff…😂
I might know someone who could be available 😏😂
@@WesPerry ha ha…new computer first, maybe NAS later in the year :p
Great video as usual Wes. I've been planning on moving to NAS for about 12 months but keep putting it off. I create about one TB of data each year for my photography business, most of it being several lightroom catalogues. The whole NAS thing is so complicated. I really just want a good on site backup solution. I don't need to work directly from the NAS, as all my client jobs are max 80gig so I can do them from my Macbook's native drive. Is there an uncomplicated, not overly priced NAS solution?
Honestly this is one of the least complicated and cheapest ones. You just start small with two drives and base ram etc in it and go from there. Wouldn’t recommend going with any of the tiny two bay ones, because then you inevitably end up getting stuck for space and have a complicated process of migrating everything to a new one (and the price difference isn’t very big for the hassle).
If you work directly from the Mac you need a DAS also known as a run of the mill external drive in a pretty dress. Unplug it and it'll prolong it's lifespan.
Very interesting and annoying about the first drive being the os drive, I've found myself with it on the mechanical drive.
Im guessing you did as well, how did you correct this to get the os to the m.2 SSD?
Great content, many thanks!
Unfortunately I had to fully start over.
You can’t install it on the SSD cache drive, to be clear.
So if you start up the unit with just the ssd’s inside, it will then install the OS. If you then install the HDD’s, they won’t be usable in their current config anymore, so the system will reformat them to suit the new config.
Did you look into using a Synology NAS?
I run 3 Synology NAS units for my business / home.
1 for security cameras for our house / my office. I’m starting to use HomeKit for security cameras so this NAS is slowly going away.
1 for local file storage and usage.
1 offsite for backup of the onsite storage. I use a vpn connection for the 2 NAS units so they can see each other.
For me the issue with Synology NAS's is they're mostly built for cold file storage and I wanted something I could use for active work, as mentioned in the video. You have much lower specs with regards to processor and ram, less space (if any) for installing M.2 storage, and even with that, generally a 30-50% higher price. What I Would like is the ability to install a 10Gb ethernet adapter. I definitely underestimated the possible utility of that initially.
If you look at their website they talk about storing spreadsheets and word documents and backing up photos and videos. It's pretty clear they realize that high speed iops isn't their priority, but simply redundancy and reliability. (which is great! just not the only thing I'm looking for).
Hi, thanks for the video.
I have just bought one and intend to use a m2 samsung 970 evo plus for the os and only that, no read/write cache (might be overkill but was kind of cheap so....) + Hdds for the storage.
Do you think a heatsink for the m2? Thanks in advance
At least in mine with the Crucial drives, my M.2’s don’t get any warmer than 42°C. They seem to have decent airflow in there.
And the lightweight OS access involves very little iops to heat it up anyway.
If you had it in as SSD cache and did some heavy transfers it might manage to produce some heat, but not sure if it would be enough to matter even then
Thanks for the answers!
Good NAS performance with m.2 SSD*4 and build raid 5
I bought 2 1tb ssds and 4 hdds. Im curious could i use 1 for the os and 1 as a cache drive? Or do they need to be pairs?
Thank you and love the video!
An excellent question, which is somewhat answered deep in the gobbledygook of the video but here we are lol
The cache drives must be either read or write, which I find weird and annoying. So depending on how you Use the NAS, only having a write cache or read cache could be fine (write is for ingest, or read for access basically). But if you want read/write you need two matching ssd’s for it.
The OS doesn’t Need to be on a pair of drives as I did. I just set my OS / hot storage drives up as a raid pair to increase redundancy. You could just operate it from a single SSD.
My setup is a bit overkill, but that’s because I have some Very expensive client work on it!
@@WesPerry thank you for the response! I haven't gotten to deep into the super technical side of drives yet so wasn't sure if there was a way to have it read/write on a solo drive.
I am going to start without a cache and see if it handles my workloads well and go from there.
Thanks again!
Ok, so here are some points to remember. You'll probably never hit the limits, but the CPU is an old Celeron, not even an N100, the ethernet if 2x 2.5gb and most will not have a switch to handle it, the USB is 10gb not Thunderbolt. A lot of people will be disappointed they didn't get a better switch so they'll go through USB like an external HDD and it is super quick but not "fast". Ugreen solves a lot of this with 10gb ethernet (also needs a switch) but it has a far more capable CPU and Thunderbolt. They however are a little sketchy on their software as we see it before the release. Asustor is pretty rock-solid, but if you take a loot around at this price, you may be better poised for the future elsewhere.
I’m currently editing the ugreen NAS review ;)
Most of their NAS’s don’t have thunderbolt, though, only the highest end ones. And the two lower end don’t have 10Gb Ethernet.
So, why a 5404 (4 HDD slots) and not a 5402 (seemingly the same but with 2 HDD slots), if you are only using 2 HDD's anyways? Are there other benefits of the 5404 that the 5402 doesn't have? Or just more/better future proofing?
Oh, and thanks for a great video! Just the thing I was looking for. I'm hovering a finger over a "buy" button but figured I should look for guides first, and yours is the absolutely best, and closest, to what I was looking for.
It’s definitely about future proofing. Also, with just two HDDs you’re limited to RAID1, which isn’t as efficient as RAID5 (both in terms of space used and wear resistance), for which you need at least 3 drives, and can be migrated to at a later date when you do eventually need more space - which is an inevitability.
You should try Flashstor 12...
Considered it, but I also need something that can hold a lot of data as well. And that gets awfully expensive with the Flashtor. Tough call!
Ancient Celeron CPU with PCI bottlenecks. Still plenty fast but it feels handicapped. Qnap's TBS464 is better and the new Ugreen is better still. Software though... who knows
@testshoot honestly the ugreen software is Much better than the earlier (pre 1.0) reviews made it out to be. It’s somehow already more stable than ASUSTOR ADM 😬