MATTER in Action: Future-Proof your Smart Home!
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Future-proof your smart home with Matter, the new smart home standard. In this video we'll discuss the current state of Matter, and showcase one of it's most impressive features: Multi-Admin support. We'll also cover important issues that you should be aware of.
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0:00 Chapters
0:35 Matter Overview
1:19 Why it Matters?
1:54 Multi-Admin Support
2:35 Setup In Multiple Ecosystems
5:10 Using Multiple Ecosystems Demo
7:09 Who's Benefitting?
9:20 Current Issues
11:53 Matter's Evolution
12:23 TUO Matter Accessories
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Home Hubs which don’t support all protocols shouldn’t be Matter certified until they fix that. The sensor manufacturers are compliant. It’s time for Amazon and Google and Apple to step up.
Hey Shane. Nice video. Loved your coverage of SmartThings!
I literally got interested in matter yesterday, and now you post this
Perfect timing! 😃
I finally took the plunge a few days ago and updated one of my Eve Energy plug (Matter over Thread) from Homekit to Matter. Funny thing is that although my Home Assistant (VM) does not "speak" Thread it found the device and I can control it. I have no idea WHY but I love it :)
Thankyou man. This was exactly where I have been looking for 👌🏻
Matter as well as Thread still has a glaring issue. That is a reliable end user diagnostic system for when things go wrong. Even something as simple as determining if a Matter device is Matter 1.0 or Matter 1.1 or Matter 1.2 is much harder than it should be.
Great video as always! I am definitely interested in watching a review of the Tuo Smart Lock when it’s available.
I personally think any lock that supports Apple Homekey is worth being featured in a video!
This is the best Matter breakdown video I've seen. I learned some new things.
Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful.
I think the people who benefit for most from matter is builders and home owners. Basically the same reason. When they add permanent fixtures like air conditioners that will stay with the house means that the next tenant/occupier can use these in their preferred eco system. Being able to hook up things like lights and most sensors to different system is good but generally these will be taken when they leave.
Good video as usual Shane.
Most of my Accessories are HomeKit ‘native’, and those that aren’t have been added via HomeBridge…the only Matter Accessories that I’ve had to adopt were the Blind Tilts from SwitchBot. They were challenging to keep working properly at launch, but Firmware updates seem to have helped.
Anxious to see if anything else gets the Matter logo that will get me to add more to my Smart Home using the standard. 😏
Thanks for the upload!
Thanks for sharing! I anticipate over the years Matter products will slowly start to replace your existing smart home products. You'll be able to continue using your existing native HomeKit products for years to come, but when the day comes that you need to replace certain things, I'm guessing you'll have more and more options that will be Matter certified. I suspect you'll get more Matter products, not because it supports Matter, but because it's just the best option for whatever smart home product you are looking for. As I mentioned in the video, it kind of makes sense for manufacturers to adopt Matter moving forward... especially those that create homekit products. At least we can continue using our existing smart home products until that day comes.
I haven't used Matter at all yet. Some of my hubs updated but I haven't done anything with it. However, after this video, when I move house in a few weeks and start to set everything up again, I will use Matter for everything it's an option for. I do like the idea of future proofing, and having extra possible features if I decide to get another hub. I just ordered a Google tv so maybe I'll decide I love that so much I want to switch..... Ah ha ha ha ha!
Great overview, Matter certainly has come a long way but isn’t quite what’s been promised yet. Nice to see more companies and products supporting matter
Excellent video as always! I didn’t even consider the fact that there would be periods of time where the promise of Matter actually let customers down because the ecosystems might not support all product categories right after a Matter update 🤦♂️ let’s hope they get it together, thankfully Apple was on the ball with V1 so hopefully we’ll see support for 1.2 in iOS 17.2 or 17.3 🤞
It would be awesome to see a review of the TUO smart lock. I only know of the Schlage encode plus that has thread and home key support. The TUO one would be a lot cheaper and it supports both
Thanks for the information. I'm tempted to order the Tuo temperature sensor because it supports Matter over Thread but I really can't find any reviews on it. Not even the Tuo website has any listed. If this was a $20 or $30 sensor and it didn't work very well, it wouldn't be a big deal. But my expectations go up a fair amount for a $50 device. I have to balance my appetite for more Matter over Thread products with my desire to remain a wise consumer :)
Hello Shane!
Really liking your videos and need your advice! I wanna get Govee outside lights like you have on the house and maybe lights behind the TV. But I also want some led lights connected to a light sensor, but they don’t ship to EU. Any idea on what to do / get instead?
If I was a manufacturer - I would definitely be asking for the blessing from the Matter Gods haha. Great video my friend!
🤣🤣 Thanks Chris!
Love how first half you silencing Alexa, then once you started putting them on blast for not supporting buttons Alexa came out like 3 or 4 times in rapid succession. Lol
I don’t have any pure Matter products yet, just added the Aqara G4 doorbell and U100 lock to the front door and got the M2 Hun to go with them for no real reason, but may help if I add some other Aqara items down the line.
My biggest problem is light switches, lots of options out there, but none quite right for my needs. Hoping to see some improvements in the light switch department, but I’m afraid most companies are focused on the new shiny toys rather than perfecting the old ones.
Hi Shane, great video with very good information! Do you know whether the Tuo temperature sensor interacts with Eve thermo via Apple Home? This would be a “killer application” for me because the Tuo I way cheaper than a sensor from Eve.
Awesome video Shane!
I recently saw that there is a product called "ihost" from sonoff which is a "Matter Bridge" and in 2024 it will also be a "Matter Hub". Is it possible to have more than one "Matter Bridge" at home or will this cause problems like the "thread protocol"?
Why reset the device etc just to see it in nearby devices to still have to add the matter code? Why wouldn't you just scan the matter QR code to start with when you first add the device in order to add it in less steps etc?
That's a banger soundtrack! Where did you find it? Might use it for our new Matter shade product.
I always enjoy your videos your content is amazing….. but I need some help with this not sure if you have a tutorial but I have some smart lights in front of my house along with some smart sensors everting I use is apple HomeKit compatible and I like to leave my lights very soft at night and I will like to automate this lights to turn bright when motion is detected and turn back to soft and purchase this app call signal but I can’t get it to do what I want, ….. greetings and thanks for keep sharing your tutorials.
I change one of my smart plugs to manner. Ever since I did that I’m losing connection. Are you having this issue too with the Eve Smart plug?
You make some good points especially about the multi admin feature. I'm still not completely sold on Matter quite yet. Once the 1.2 spec is released, hopefully my mind will be changed. Apple definitely needs to step it up in terms of the complexity of the HomeKit framework, but manufacturers also need to write support for the features. Matter has up till now offered the lowest, denominator in terms of features. I like the suggestion for button presses to send text messages for people who are nonverbal. Great use of the smart home!
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Can you compare rollershade motor noise db levels to see which is the most quiet?
have you used the Tuo temp sensor yet? and if so, what are your thoughts?? Curious about the air quality part.
Availability in Australia would be nice
If I for example have a sensor paired (via Matter) to a Smartthings Hub and I wanna connect it to Apple Home using multi-admin, do I need another Matter Hub for the Apple eco system? (Like an Apple TV or a HomePod)
Hey @shanewhatley. I have an Aqara G3 camera hub and just bought a few Kasa Matter compatible plugs. My G3 is already updated to Matter. How can I add the plugs to G3?
I'm considering switching to Apple HomeKit from Alexa, not impressed with Alexa but none of my devices are made for HomeKit. I have Govee lights, Kasa smart plugs. Any suggestions how I can get them to work with HomeKit or do I need to get new devices? Thanks
Does Matter provide any additional security features compared to non-HomeKit certified products? Is there some higher level of security protection provided by HomeKit certified products compared to non-HomeKit products?
Shane, tks for the video
Maybe I am wrong but my feeling for some weeks is that you are a bit disappointed by Apple-home ... maybe since you had issues with it?
You talked about Homey and now you talk about advantages of Alexa ... does it mean that you will move (or at least try) Alexa?
I ask that because I do have the same feeling after many years and tons of homekit devices. Indeed, I setup some stuffs to a friend's home with Alexa and I found it simpler, cheaper and more reliable. So I wonder if I will not change my entire system.
What do you think?
Hi Shane, I have been watching your awesome and informative channel for about 2 years now and enjoy watching your videos. I wanted to know if you recommend using Aqara Security Camera Hub Indoor G2H Pro as a hub for their latest strip lights to transfer scenes and use adaptive lighting? Thanks.
Thank you for watching. I think any of the Aqara hubs are great. Which one is best for you just depends on your needs (I love that they have options). If you have a need for an indoor camera like the G2H Pro, then yes I absolutely would recommend it as a hub for their other accessories like the LED strip. If you don't need a camera, then maybe the M1S hub or the M2 hub would be a better fit. No wrong answer. I would just look at the features of each hub and see which one has the features that are most appealing to you.
@@ShaneCreates I appreciate your time and reply since I really need to transfer my scenes from Aqara app to Apple home app along with adaptive lighting! I will go ahead and purchase a bunch of the strips and extensions and the huh that I now need through your channel’s links. Keep up the good work.😎✌🏻
Google moves at a snail's pace when it comes to developing their Home app. They STILL haven't integrated all their old Nest cameras into the new Home app. I bet if they hired even one competent person it could be done within a month.
Thanks for the great video. Doesn't Apple Shortcuts allow a button press to send a text message?
No unfortunately you cannot run a personal shortcut (sending a text message) from a HomeKit accessory.
I can use homepods/homekit to send commands to smartthings to control my old Zigbee switches??
Nuki lock 4th gen with Matter, fully recognized on Homekit, Google Home is recognizing it, but the Nuki device is "disconnected" from the Google Home device list.
Thanks for the timely video, Shane. With 1.2 readying to come out, understanding the state of Matter is really important.
Wow - the button not supported in Alexa and Google SmartHomes is scary. I do not want Apple to make that same decision. And buttons?! How do you choose to not support such a ubiquitous item!?
I will also be curious to see how the percent of users changes between the top platforms over the next few years and how the number of launched products increases for Apple during the same time. We’ve always been way far behind the other platforms given the rigorous testing Apple demands (which most of us like). If that rigorous process is only required once to get on all platforms, it should be a lot more compelling for manufacturers.
Thanks for watching and for your insight. It should certainly be an interesting and exciting time in the smart home space over the next few years.
The weird thing is that Alexa does support buttons. I'm using Flic buttons and the Yolink Fob to start Alexa routines right now. Not surprised about Google, they still don't support that device type at all.
@@RiceEater483 Alexa supports buttons through the native Alexa integration for some devices but not through Matter.
@@ShaneCreates Oh okay, thanks for the answer.
Z-wave would like a word
Have you used homey pro? Can we expect a video with your experience?
I use Home Assistant, which is absolutely great! But HA experiences also Matter growing pain.
Kind of hit or miss.
Thanks for sharing!
Is device compatibility still an issue with smart products? What are the main issues at the moment with smart homes and the market in general?
wow, now i finally understand why the onvis button with thread probably is not matter certified ... it just wouldn't work with google or alexa anyway
What's the benefit over just using home assistant?
Thank you for this video. It would be greatly appreciated if you don't say the trigger word "Alexa", maybe "Amazon Assistant" would be a better choice for future videos.
They ever going to release their smart lock. It’s the only one out there I think looks good.
Have you tried/installed any of the new Matter Kasa Smart Switches?
Trying to decide between these and the Lutron Diva switches
I have. I actually replaced them with Lutron because Lutron is more reliable for me. I mentioned it in this video:
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@@ShaneCreates thank you so much, I’ll check that one
With the new Matter Standard, I’ve been gradually updating my HomeKit items to matter standard.
So far the only irritation is that Apple HomeKit does not support adaptive lighting over Matter.
I do not believe adaptive lighting is a feature in Matter. If the product is native to Apple Home, installing it directly to Home without Matter should enable adaptive lighting.
I'm using eufy security cameras for homekit because I don't want to pay monthly, but i'm not loving their recording limitations. Do you recommend any Matter cameras?
The Matter specification does not support cameras yet. Hopefully that will come in 2024.
What you do on apple homekit if aqara m2 hub shows twice? (Each device doubled) as matter and as regular?
I haven't switched my Aqara products over to Matter yet. When you do, you will have duplicate Aqara accessories. I would probably choose one or the other to use and delete the other from the Home app.
Wow, I watch your show every Wednesday, I’m a dedicated follower and I didn’t know about the matter not working with everything yet. What if these big tech companies felt forced to get together and they didn’t want to, and they just did it as a PR stunt, then after matter comes out. They decide which devices they want to connect to them which ones they don’t and we’re right back to where we were before. If you ask me this is the kind of business that big companies always do. They zig, and then they zag. And one last thing. And I’m just asking? Shouldn’t we all agree to lose the term future proofing? Or future proof your home? Because it’s starting to sound like when always says, “this is the best iPhone we’ve ever made!” I’m starting to hear it every year. I bought Wi-Fi 6 and they said future proof your home and now we’re already up at Wi-Fi 7. Maybe you should be the first to say I’m not using that phrase no more and you can be the leader lol.😂
Since renovating my home earlier this year I’ve gone all-in on a HomeKit smart home and use your advice more than any other content creator. I’m trying to use Thread for every device I can but I’m running into a roadblock finding Thread enabled wired dimmer switches. I bought a few Wemo 2nd gen smart dimmers with Thread and they’re great (as opposed to 1st gen which suck) but they’re sold out. I can’t find any others that are Thread enabled. So here’s my question for you Shane- why aren’t more vendors moving to Thread? The mesh network should be clearly superior to Bluetooth or Zigby. Any insight on why this is?
WiFi 7 has not been certified yet. A few companies have come out with products purportedly to use WiFi 7 even though the standard has not been finalized. When the standard is finalized by IEEE, then the device you have already bought may not have all of the features and meet all of the specs of the new standard.
I need Matter light bulbs.. but bright .. like 1000 lumens or greater.. 90w equivalent…
Or, short of that.. a way to utilize maybe a non-matter bulb via HomeKit
Bought 8 Meross Matter smart plugs, hooked up 1 and everything in home kit stopped responding. Pulled my hair a while. Removing the device from the Meross app and homekit didn’t help, so I went around rebooting ATVs, still nothing. Finally did a reboot of the whole TP-Link mesh system and they started to come back online. Thought it was a fluke so the next day I tried adding the plug again and got the identical result. I don’t want to return them but it seems I can’t use them.😢
Oh wow that’s wild. Sorry to hear that. I didn’t have a great experience with the Meross Matter plugs either (although not as bad as yours).
@@ShaneCreates Do you need to be on the new architecture for Matter to work properly? I’m holding off since my wall mounted iPad and MacBook will lose access to Home.
Could have mentioned that you could just use homeassistant or something to tie all the ecosystems together, and hook your matter devices into homeassistant instead.
What is a good smart things hub?
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Thanks for the video Shane, but the sponsorship disclosure needs to go at the *beginning* of the video and not at the end. When I see like 3+ products from the same brand all being featured in a video, I pretty much know it’s sponsored, but anyone could easily watch the first 3/4 of this video and click off it before your disclosure without ever knowing they were being advertised to.
Why needing to set it up in different ecosystems? I thought Martter was supposed to take away this shamble of ecosystems by sharing the setup through all matter enabled ecosystems??
Matter isn’t going to send notifications to your Alexa speaker. Or you may prefer to configure the automations in Alexa instead of HomeKit.
Another advantage with Matter when using Alexa, for example, is that you don’t have to trust the manufacturer to build and maintain a proper “Skill”, aka app integration. A lot of those Skills have turned to trash and do not work properly.
Can you give me the name of your vacuum
Another Matter limitation, not all device options are available within the Matter ecosystems. For example, my Nanoleaf light strip can only do the basics (light color, temp, brightness) from the ecosystem. It can do effects from its native app, but the app is garbage.
Which is why I find myself using native apps in many cases for automations and many times, even for manual control. Rather than HK.
I miss stringify 😢.
So where are all the affordable Matter enabled wall switch replacements? 😂
fortuntaly im capabl;e of turning on a light or reading a temp haha
Still very little support.
Idk, there are more and more Matter supported devices coming out all the time. We saw a lot this year and I imagine 2024 will be even more.
A bit off topic, however, I would like to hear how you feel about MyQ / LiftMaster / Chamberlain removing API support. I had MyQ running through HomeBridge, but that was broken by MyQ a few weeks ago. MyQ is requiring users to use the MyQ app with ads. A subscription is required to use HomeAssistant or IFFTTT, there is no HomeKit support. There seems to be a return to custom, non integrating solutions. For example, GM is going to require GM software in their new cars, no more Car Play support. The car companies and MyQ appear to be teaming up to access garage through the car software, rather than use a shared standard. Do you think that this fragmentation will continue? In my case I bought a ismartgate device, connected it, and deleted the MyQ app.
Apple says the only reason to switch to Matter is if you have devices for multiple ecosystems. Since all my devices work with Homekit, i don't think there is much benifit.
*This is a DISASTER in the making... ALL Matter devices should work with ALL smart-home ecosystems that support Matter. Products (and product categories) should not have the Matter certified logo unless ALL Matter-supporting smart-home ecosystems ALREADY support those products/categories.*