@@mr1m020 ye but the flow of the game is perfect for a controller, I don't think a 3rd person game can have this type of fluid and varied gameplay like wizard has.
I think a problem most of the ones lower on the list, or even ones that didn't make the list at all have is that they don't do enough to build your strength between runs or even on the run itself. Everything in Going Under feels balanced to be mediocre and it quickly devolves to just being about skill whilst not feeling tight enough to make such a demand.
Nuclear Throne is very tight but also bullet-hell tough! Dead Estate looks awesome - great visuals and satisfying "splattering of enemies"! What a gem.
I’m really glad Going Under made the list but was sad to see Voidigo wasn’t there. I know it’s still in early access but it still is a very well made game especially for its genre
My favorite roguelike is probably Colt Canyon. Several playable characters & loadouts for each A sweet reload mechanic Delicious sound effects Dynamic music Challenging bosses Fun achievements to shoot for New game + loops A simple yet attractive artstyle
I had never heard of Patch Quest before, will definitely give it a try ;) If i had to do my own ranking tho, i'd definitely put Isaac at first place. I played the game ever since the janky flash version up until Repentance (~1200 hours) and IMO, with the inclusion of the workshop, it's probably the richest Roguelite out there. If anyone is on the fence about it, you should try it out 👍
I’ve been on a campaign to try and get some of my friends into Undermine. It’s hands down one of my personal favorites. Going Under is seriously underrated. Like you said the humor is spot on. I’m glad you included it. Hopefully more people can check it out. Also it’s on sale a lot. I saw it going for 5 bucks the other day. That’s more than a deal.
Has Vampire Survivors made a list before in the channel? If not, then it’s about time. Also, as much as I like child of morta, it is very grindy in the beginning, and the combat feels very same across run, with the only variety is on using different characters.
Thanks for the list. I've grown really fond of top down games and found your video while looking for some others to try out. I'm sure you might be familiar with the following as well, but my all time favorite top down game might be Gauntlet: Slayer Edition and Helldivers.
Damn I love those kind of game, unfortunetly played only 3 games from list (Nuclear throne, Isaac and Wizards of Legends). The games looks so cool, but I still have Hades in my games library wainting for when I have more free time :(
Hell yeah, Wizard of Legend didn't just get a mention, it was in top 5... It's honestly THE game that made me fall in love with the genre, and still to date has some of the deepest, varied, and most over the top build systems in a rogue like. I woulda put it at #2. But for everyone who has ever loved rogue-likes/lites, i BEG you to try my #3: Mana Spark. Tragically one of the most underrated and overlooked entries, releasing in 2018. It has this measured, deliberate simplicity, and still FEELS great to play by today's standards.
I have all the games on this list except warm snow and curse of the dead god, in my region (Argentina) they are very expensive (ARS$ 1649.99 the COTDG)
Same!!! COTDG became so expensive while in EA so quickly, that I couldn't keep up and nowadays is pretty unbuyable. Also yeah, all the chinese rogue/cultivation games are also really expensive.
If you have Xbox gamepass you can play it for free. they should have a deal for newcomers for $1 USD, which gives you 2-3 months might be cheap aswell over there.
Im surprised patch quest and vampire survivor is so low ranked. I played both and patch quest is incredibly adictive and is a mystery why it isnt more popular and on the otherhand Vampire survivor quite frankly created his own genre already having his copy on the playstore and steam
Bro, how do this many people completely fail to read the title of the video? It clearly says "Top-Down Roguelites" yet people continue to ask why non-top down games aren't on the list. I can only imagine how annoying this would be to Clemmy, since as a viewer it really kind of ticks me off for some reason. Idk why this happens so often
I will likely get some flak for this, but I really don't get the appeal of "Hades". It gets pretty repetitive very quickly and is obviously meant for many playthroughs. Also, it feels like skill doesn't really matter nearly as much as the proper build: namely the choice of weapon/boons. The bosses are massive damage sponges which unleash Touhou-style bullet hell but Zagreus' hurtbox isn't particularly tiny. Theseus was the final straw for me. Whose grand idea was it to give a damage sponge boss a partner AND the ability to block damage?
I'm in the same boat that Hades is overrated. It's mostly the gameplay for me. Giving only one weapon for run feels like it beats the purpose of Roguelikes of how you need to get use to items as you go. When hitting red damage puts enemies into infinite hit stun who have a lot of health. And instead of Choreography, bosses are just bullet hells. Minor thing, it's too flash to being to a point of distracting. I realize that the world building part of it is like, really good. A large amount of conversations and interactions makes it feel so fleshed out. I kind of just want to like the game a lot more because of that.
I agree, in terms of gameplay Hades doesn't come close to many of the other games on his list. The only list it should be at the top of is Most Overrated Games.
++, overhype is real, not enough content in the gameplay, only artificial contents like dialogues, need more different rooms and bosses etc. the production is top notch though, luckily I unlocked everything with a trainer to not lose time xD, this is where classic roguelikes are better, they respect the player time, rogue legacy is also grind fest, don't waste your life people, get a trainer 👍
I wouldn't have put Undermine as 5th, don't know why but I can't get into this game at all. The mood is too dull, no real fun when doing the runs. :/ On the other way, totally happy to see Street of Rogue in the ranking. This game is weird but really fun due to its chaotic trend! The top 3 is a perfect fit.
Of all time? Really? Haven't heard of Deathstate? It always seems to me that people tend to ignore or forget about it. I've played tons of roguelikes and it stills remains one of my favorites.
Wizard Of Legend is the closest we'll get to a good Avatar: The Last Airbender video game btw.
Think again! Look up Elcagaming here on CZcams and see
@@mr1m020 ye but the flow of the game is perfect for a controller, I don't think a 3rd person game can have this type of fluid and varied gameplay like wizard has.
Wish it was online coo op aswel
Maybe TLAb should contact them about making a game.
true, but i’ve heard that same statement dozens of times so that’s gotten old
I think a problem most of the ones lower on the list, or even ones that didn't make the list at all have is that they don't do enough to build your strength between runs or even on the run itself. Everything in Going Under feels balanced to be mediocre and it quickly devolves to just being about skill whilst not feeling tight enough to make such a demand.
Dreamscaper's progression is fairly well balanced nowadays, but it defs had that issue on launch barring a few stray combinations.
"Warm snow: Yellow snow"
I was going to comment that.
Nuclear Throne is very tight but also bullet-hell tough!
Dead Estate looks awesome - great visuals and satisfying "splattering of enemies"! What a gem.
Nice to see some respect showd to the elders in the form of Isaac and Nuclear Throne. Great list!
I love Enter the Gungeon and Going Under. I've long wanted to try Undermine too, it looks pretty fun.
please do!
Huge roguelike fan here. I can vouch for Undermine, underated AF
been addicted to tiny rogues ever since i bought it. definite recommend!
gotcha!
I’m really glad Going Under made the list but was sad to see Voidigo wasn’t there. I know it’s still in early access but it still is a very well made game especially for its genre
Voidigo is so fucking good. Everyone should know this game.
My favorite roguelike is probably Colt Canyon.
Several playable characters & loadouts for each
A sweet reload mechanic
Delicious sound effects
Dynamic music
Challenging bosses
Fun achievements to shoot for
New game + loops
A simple yet attractive artstyle
thanks for sharing
Curse of The Dead is still free on PSs
It feels like a genre technicality that Necrodancer isn't on this list. Glad Wizard of Legend and Going Under were both featured.
To be completely fair rythm dungeon crawling roguelikes are basically their own genre nowadays.
I had never heard of Patch Quest before, will definitely give it a try ;)
If i had to do my own ranking tho, i'd definitely put Isaac at first place. I played the game ever since the janky flash version up until Repentance (~1200 hours) and IMO, with the inclusion of the workshop, it's probably the richest Roguelite out there. If anyone is on the fence about it, you should try it out 👍
patch Quest was made by solo dev < and he have a youtube channel
It’s not exactly a rogue-like, but for people who like these kinds of games, try Archvale!
Streets of Rogue is my N°1 Replayable Roguelike to play, whether Multiplayer, Co-Op (has Split-Screen too), or Singleplayer when internet fails me.
surprised I've never heard of Streets of Rogue, it looks badass
@@fozzythasalesman6125 You have no idea how badass and customizable, the gameplay can be, with unlockable mutators!
Gotta plug Monolith, one of the more polished pixel twin stick shooters.
My personal favorite so far. And there is still more content coming.
The binding of Isaac: Repentance should come first. This is the best Top-down Roguelike game of all time!
I’ve been on a campaign to try and get some of my friends into Undermine. It’s hands down one of my personal favorites. Going Under is seriously underrated. Like you said the humor is spot on. I’m glad you included it. Hopefully more people can check it out. Also it’s on sale a lot. I saw it going for 5 bucks the other day. That’s more than a deal.
I love any bullet heaven type game, my phone is full of them lol
nice
Has Vampire Survivors made a list before in the channel? If not, then it’s about time.
Also, as much as I like child of morta, it is very grindy in the beginning, and the combat feels very same across run, with the only variety is on using different characters.
Covered the release but yeah, first time on a list like this
Thanks for the list. I've grown really fond of top down games and found your video while looking for some others to try out. I'm sure you might be familiar with the following as well, but my all time favorite top down game might be Gauntlet: Slayer Edition and Helldivers.
Top Down Action Rogue-like is actually my fav genre, I played 9/15 of the games in this video lol
Damn I love those kind of game, unfortunetly played only 3 games from list (Nuclear throne, Isaac and Wizards of Legends). The games looks so cool, but I still have Hades in my games library wainting for when I have more free time :(
Hell yeah, Wizard of Legend didn't just get a mention, it was in top 5... It's honestly THE game that made me fall in love with the genre, and still to date has some of the deepest, varied, and most over the top build systems in a rogue like. I woulda put it at #2. But for everyone who has ever loved rogue-likes/lites, i BEG you to try my #3: Mana Spark. Tragically one of the most underrated and overlooked entries, releasing in 2018. It has this measured, deliberate simplicity, and still FEELS great to play by today's standards.
You knowing you were getting into trouble for rating Isaac lower.
Me, getting furious for rating NT so low.
Just kidding, great video, as usual.
:D
Moonlighter is another good one.
Mmhmm
do another one PLEASE and include ember knights! looking for games like it :)
you have good taste my friend
Thanks!
@2:16 why he crip walkin with that gun LUL
One of my favorite genres!!!
games i liked are 15,13,12,11,,10,9,8,7,6,4,3,2,1
Doomsday Hunters (or I Dracula Genesis) must be on 1st place.
I Dracula is either way too hard, or I’m having major trouble figuring it out… I never have a good run
It is absolutely criminal that WAYWARD SOULS isn't included in this list. And it was years ahead of its time.
Make your own list
@@ReadGameCraftCook yeah make a youtube channel for your list
@@ReadGameCraftCook With black jack and hookers?
GREAT VID
thanks
You're welcome!
Go check out Dandy Ace! Has a interesting story and cool mechanics!
I have all the games on this list except warm snow and curse of the dead god, in my region (Argentina) they are very expensive (ARS$ 1649.99 the COTDG)
Same!!! COTDG became so expensive while in EA so quickly, that I couldn't keep up and nowadays is pretty unbuyable. Also yeah, all the chinese rogue/cultivation games are also really expensive.
If you have Xbox gamepass you can play it for free. they should have a deal for newcomers for $1 USD, which gives you 2-3 months might be cheap aswell over there.
hades is the best!!! love it
Can you also put the game’s name you used for thumbnail in description or comments please?
For educational purposes, right?
@Cloudwolf of course
The thing about guns in the US is if you don’t actively and aggressively advocate for the things you like, they tend to go away or get banned.
cool. Switch up your meds or?
Is these videogame intel HD graphic friendly? I just blew my GPU so trying to find something fun that i can run for weeks now
You gotta check but there are some older games on the list
Im surprised patch quest and vampire survivor is so low ranked. I played both and patch quest is incredibly adictive and is a mystery why it isnt more popular and on the otherhand Vampire survivor quite frankly created his own genre already having his copy on the playstore and steam
It really saddens me to know how dead Nuclear Throne is these days
Vlambeer has disbanded so...
I wish the dead state would have a switch version!!
Nuclear Throne... 🥲💓
Please play my game Dwerve! Its a tower defense dungeon crawler RPG
I'm aware 👌
oh its rogue-"lite" --- understandable
For the umpteenth time: nthe Berlin interpretation are guidelines, not walls. Stop trying to lock down the tag.
@@coldDrive thought it was rogue-like
I'm still waiting for Wizard of Legend to arrive on Mobile as promised, they're taking too long...
But... they are already at playstore
Downwell!
love it
@@ClemmyGames me too) but on hardcore its hot like hell)
Dead Cells
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Hades is a nicely polished game but the in-run gameplay itself is a bit one-note... and I concur - I didn't care for Binding of Isaac either.
How going under considered as top down
I find your lack of Monolith disturbing.
whats the thumb game?
iIt's food to see Vampire Survivor, because the developer Is italian and he put some Little jokes understandable only for us
Dead cells is missing what a bummer.
czcams.com/video/a59_Uxmg74I/video.html
This list is for top-down roguelites and dead cells isn't top-down..
No Deathstate...
dead cells bro?
He was doing top-down/isometric roguelites only.
czcams.com/video/a59_Uxmg74I/video.html
Is Dead Cells not indie?
It is, but it's not top-down. (no offense intended whatsoever, but it's crazy to me how many people don't read the titles of the video)
Kinda dissapointed Dungreed isn't anywhere on the list. I'd say its easily one of the best action roguelikes out there.
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Synthetik?
Bro, how do this many people completely fail to read the title of the video? It clearly says "Top-Down Roguelites" yet people continue to ask why non-top down games aren't on the list. I can only imagine how annoying this would be to Clemmy, since as a viewer it really kind of ticks me off for some reason. Idk why this happens so often
this list is pretty good but i think as much as i love wizard of legends i don't think it deserves the forth spot
I will likely get some flak for this, but I really don't get the appeal of "Hades". It gets pretty repetitive very quickly and is obviously meant for many playthroughs. Also, it feels like skill doesn't really matter nearly as much as the proper build: namely the choice of weapon/boons. The bosses are massive damage sponges which unleash Touhou-style bullet hell but Zagreus' hurtbox isn't particularly tiny. Theseus was the final straw for me. Whose grand idea was it to give a damage sponge boss a partner AND the ability to block damage?
I'm in the same boat that Hades is overrated. It's mostly the gameplay for me. Giving only one weapon for run feels like it beats the purpose of Roguelikes of how you need to get use to items as you go. When hitting red damage puts enemies into infinite hit stun who have a lot of health. And instead of Choreography, bosses are just bullet hells. Minor thing, it's too flash to being to a point of distracting.
I realize that the world building part of it is like, really good. A large amount of conversations and interactions makes it feel so fleshed out. I kind of just want to like the game a lot more because of that.
I agree, in terms of gameplay Hades doesn't come close to many of the other games on his list. The only list it should be at the top of is Most Overrated Games.
++, overhype is real, not enough content in the gameplay, only artificial contents like dialogues, need more different rooms and bosses etc. the production is top notch though, luckily I unlocked everything with a trainer to not lose time xD, this is where classic roguelikes are better, they respect the player time, rogue legacy is also grind fest, don't waste your life people, get a trainer 👍
I wouldn't have put Undermine as 5th, don't know why but I can't get into this game at all. The mood is too dull, no real fun when doing the runs. :/ On the other way, totally happy to see Street of Rogue in the ranking. This game is weird but really fun due to its chaotic trend! The top 3 is a perfect fit.
no dead cells?
top down
my bad, Love your channel mate
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dead cell?
Top down
You don't like slay the spire?
Yawn* contact me when this fad ends.
2024 - fad still going well, stay down.
Of all time? Really? Haven't heard of Deathstate? It always seems to me that people tend to ignore or forget about it. I've played tons of roguelikes and it stills remains one of my favorites.