I have learning difficulties and was on DLA from the age of 9 and had a life time award and went to special schools and now asked to change over to PIP and fail the assessment and last Monday had a tribunal and they failed me to... but you know what I’m not giving up 11 months I have been though hell , they can’t do this to people who honestly need it so I’m going to apply to upper court .. DWP can’t treat people with learning difficulties and mental health problems .. hope everyone gets what they deserve
If I could give a tip to anyone who applies for PIP remember they extenuate or focus on the positives, for example if you say I can stand for 5 to 10 minutes they will say “can stand for 10 minutes with no problem”. If you say I have major problems with showering or bathing they will say minor problem keeping clean. If that makes sense. You need to do the same. Don’t give the assessor the opportunity to elaborate on the positives.
The same happened to me. I had no points from Capita. I asked for a reconsideration and sent a doctors a letter and relatives testimony letter that I used for ESA and got awarded basic PIP which I didn't think I would get. I only wanted lower mobility .The interviewers are useless. You can get it reconsidered with more evidence or go to appeal. I won an appeal once. Depends on the decision maker you get or the Judge. Some are better than others
most of the people on these panels making the decisions have absolutely no clue what actually people suffer from. I've been diagnosed with Anxiety/Panic Disorder, Depression as well as Agoraphobia and my day to life is 100% effected yet that's me now having to look forward to my 2 appeal, the system is all to hell and certainly needs to be looked at as genuine claims get refused.
SO SO TRUE TORY CONS FLAWED COROURT SELFSERVERS GOVERTNMENT / DWP 2010-2024 IN EXPEREICE/ LACK KNOWLEDGE OFF EVERY DAY LIFE DONT CARE . JUST CONSERVE FOR RICH MANS TAX OFFSHORE AVATION .
I know your vlog was created some time ago but I wanted to pick up on the point you made about them being nice to you. I was told when I went for the meeting that it was important that I finish the interview\assessment. Although I was in a total panic attack and crying I finished it so I would get my benefit but when they refused me, one of the negatives mentioned was that I was well enough to finish the interview. I think that was a horrible thing to do to someone, they put me under immense pressure to finish but when I did they marked me down. I hoped you appealed x
i got my pip letter last week and i`m fuming. i got zero points for every single question. the assessor has lied and made up comments that were not discussed. i am in the process of mandatory reconsideration and also making an official complaint re the assessor for her misleading lies. i have a written report about the assessors notes and it unbelievable what she has written down, i will also be asking the assessment bodies to compare her notes and recommendations with the recording of the assessment. its disgraceful that people like that work for pip, i`m gutted and its sent me spiralling into a darker place than i was before.
Darren it happened to me. I was on DLA with a indefinite award for years. I was assessed for PIP, by a Paramedic. I got 4 points only. I asked for the report, some parts of what she put down were lies. I had to go through the appeal process, which took 12 months. The stress got to me. I had help with my appeal from the Law Centre. No Dwp representative was at my appeal. I had a great Judge, Doctor, and Disability lady. I was awarded standard Care and mobility. They had to give me back pay which was £6000. But I bloody struggled for that 12 months. As a Celiac, and having to buy special food was expensive on just a fortnightly ESA Payment, not to mention Chiropractor appointments for my Neck and lower back arthritis, which are expensive. What I didn't get about the report was at the end the accessor stated that my condition will only get worse over time so would recommend a " light Touch Review ' light Touch Reviews are for claimants who's condition is not likely to get better, so why only 4 bloody points. You need to fight for what is rightfully yours, it seems a lot of people are getting 0 points. It's disgraceful. I think the DWP , think that we won't appeal as it is to stressful for the claimant. Get help Darren. I've just filled in my PIP Review Form, and dreading the outcome. It's a waiting game. The things we have to go through when you have health issues is so dam depressing. But I will appeal again if I have to. I have the best support network organisation who will help me. All the best.
Sorry that happened to you sir , things will get better but all the damage that they are doing to people at the moment is very real. Good on you for putting videos out raising awareness. Is Laura Pidcock your mp? From what I see she better than most, email her a link to the channel and a list or timline of issues maybe? Its a long shot and wont help in the immediate but might give her ammunition.
What I've realised the more information you give the better, fill every bit of white space on your form and send docs letters and get your partner to write a letter explaining how you cope daily and how they help you Got mine first attempt.
It’s disgusting as if your not well , or you need help for your child you don’t get the help you needs, we live in the Wales and il still hungry and in. Debt when where not we’ll , where is the justice , they know we are unwell as we’ve got to take tabs everyday sad world we live in , had no electric for awk and this is how the government treats unwell kids n ppl 😞
2 year fight for it,won January last year watch my other videos I was a mess back then nearly died 3 times, thanks for the comment hope you get what you need.
If you have the medical records to prove your conditions then do appeal. They look at my son aand because he can move his arms and legs he is ok. That is far, far from the truth. It has been a uphill struggle. I know I have had to fight for my son his whole life to the point where I could bang my head against the wall. If you truly believe you have a disability then do not give up...that is what they want you to do. If you fail after an appeal then I am not sure but do get the medical evidence to back you up.
Dont take this the wrong way but I know exactly what your problem was, it was because of what you said. You need to be completely negative and rack up those points. You also need to study the marking criteria which you can look up, make each of your answers fit to those points each time. For example if they ask are you able to cook food for yourself you could answer something like "no Im too afraid to cook for myself because of my depression I just cant stop thinking about killing myself, once I burned myself pretty badly on my leg and almost burnt the house down, I might try it again, my mum has to bring me food and im not allowed near the kitchen." Did you see how I handled that? I told them my issue with cooking, my difficulty and my specific example. Next they will try to put words in your mouth, do not fall for this, you must be negative all the time. E.g. they could ask how are you on a good day so you could reply something "I feel like everyday is an awful day, I wake up every morning and I turn to dread because Im upset that Im still alive, I dont remember the last time I had a good day. See I was extremely negative and never positive, if I said something like I felt good last week because my favourite tv show was on then that would go against me, they will twist it to say that Im not depressed all the time. You really need to understand the marking criteria and the same goes when you are answering the paper application as well. I was just awarded the full rate yesterday for depression and I didnt provide any medical evidence, they may have contacted my gp or looked up my medical records but the only medication im on is anti-depressants. I was actually quite shocked, I had my assessment on 1st July, awarded 24th July, back payment of 3k will arrive 29 July and now I will get £730 every 4 weeks. I found it easy but remember you need to be a negative nancy about every single aspect, do not be positive about anything.
Had a terrible pip tribunal and got four points when I should have easily got ten. Dr was very hostile on the panel so now wondering what next I can do
What the hell does race have anything to do with it, they're following a checklist, you need to study the marking criteria very carefully, apply it to your conidition when you answer the questions, dont let them put words in your mouth, never say anything positive and you will rack up points. If you rack enough points then you will get it, there is no way around it, most people who get refused dont understand, its a game and you need to learn how to play it. Also I think the assessor was actually some ugly chav who lives in a crappy run down crack infested council estate in Mankychester.
Did you appeal ? You MUST match your illness and how it affects your life to the descriptors.You have to be extremely accurate .For example ‘I am unable to walk 20 meters without severe pain and having to stop to rest on any day ‘ ‘i have severe pain in both legs and feet which affects my walking’ It is no good just saying for example, ‘I have pain when i walk’ Reapply mate and maybe get some help matching your problems to the descriptors...good luck !
DO MR REVEIW if no good build case take it to industrial tribunral FIGHT CONMERCHANT TORYS . IT does not help when THE ATOS asseors lie lie on there report to DWP .
Took 2 years to get PIP l spent about a year in hospital with severe necrotising pancreatitis caused by gallstones nearly died 3 times when I rang DWP when I got back home they said you can make a new claim but will loose everything you've been fighting for I stuck with the claim, still not got what I'm owed .
@@johnmorrow7080 IAM 59 now pated 43 years class 1 tax/ ni paye . due to works accident 25+ years back . DAMANAGED SPINE/ BACK DEGENRATIVE FOR LIFE ... I awarded 10% industrial injury for life . FAST FORWARD 2019 ON slaught 2nd degenrative changes LIMITED WALKING AROUND 20- 50 METERES HAVE SIT DOWN STANDING NO MORE 1 MIN MOBILITY ISSUES . / yes i still do bit work I DRIVE / no handball manuall handling . ONLY DO part time 2 , 3 days 30 HRS week. NOT FULL TIME 5 DAYS 48 HOUR WEEKS . .. AS WHEN TOP UP INCOME WITH UC UNI CREDIT . IF from jan 2023 you earn abouve AET £618 SINGLE mouth you left alone nofurther job search . . I appley PIP 2019 REFUSED / MR REFUSED / TRIBUNRAL . JUDGE SAID yes i had mobility issues . but law states all eveidence must be within 18 mouths off claiming pip . MY orpho surgeon report / industrial injury 20 + years old there fore up held DWP RESULT DUE lack up date eveidence . There was also DWP persons present & tribunral . LETS face it since april 2016 7 years now UC50 / PIP assetnments done by 3 rd party capital/ atos asseors paid £600 week/ £32k year . BUT for each person fail pip pass work uc50 they get BONUS . SO tell porkys on there reports DWP . TORYS CONSERVATIVIES . DONT CARE AGE 55-64 PAYED 43 YEARS NI OUR MONEY PAID IN . DISABILITYS IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO WORK . IT WORK TO YOU DROP NOW OR 66 RETIRTNMENT / TORYS OUT MAY 2024 . STAY SAFE .
I got denied pip the person I saw wasn't an expert in mental illness I get intrusive thoughts they said in report I have to commit a violent crime and then I can claim pip
crossbow intrusive thoughts always messes with your head u wanna kill your neighbours it's so intense your worried about your neighbours lives u tell your support worker she reports u I've even been to prison cause it got out of hand
8 gets you the care side of PIP but not the mobility side , they agreed I needed help , it took 2 years to win my case , thanks for watching , I'm still on dialysis , I saw a doctor last week who said they are going to try to get me back on the transplant list .
@@johnmorrow7080 I got 28 points just for depression, you really need to learn how to answer the questions. Ive written a more detailed comment on here, you should give it a read.
If you get between 8 and 11 points in total, you'll get the daily living component of PIP at the standard rate. If you get at least 12 points in total, you'll get the daily living component at the enhanced rate.
Yh. You're right they are liars on commission! I'm prescribed 10 tablets a day, have medication,cooking, incontinence, bathing, budgeting and social issues. But despite this, the assessor awarded 0points!
Of course you didn't get it, you could be 6 feet under and these bastards would say you're fit for work.
🤣
I have learning difficulties and was on DLA from the age of 9 and had a life time award and went to special schools and now asked to change over to PIP and fail the assessment and last Monday had a tribunal and they failed me to... but you know what I’m not giving up 11 months I have been though hell , they can’t do this to people who honestly need it so I’m going to apply to upper court .. DWP can’t treat people with learning difficulties and mental health problems .. hope everyone gets what they deserve
Sarah Purvis sorry to hear how they have treated you keep going you aren’t put into special ed school for nothing x
So what happened in the end? Did you get it?
@@Mike--Oxmallno
@@Mike--OxmallI highly doubt it
If I could give a tip to anyone who applies for PIP remember they extenuate or focus on the positives, for example if you say I can stand for 5 to 10 minutes they will say “can stand for 10 minutes with no problem”. If you say I have major problems with showering or bathing they will say minor problem keeping clean. If that makes sense. You need to do the same. Don’t give the assessor the opportunity to elaborate on the positives.
YES ATOS ASSEROSSORS LIE ON THERE REPORTS TO DWP . SAY YOU DONE MOVENMENTS YOU CANT & DIDNOT DO TAPE RECORD INTERVEIW / TAKE WHITNESS & ASSETNMENT . .
The same happened to me. I had no points from Capita. I asked for a reconsideration and sent a doctors a letter and relatives testimony letter that I used for ESA and got awarded basic PIP which I didn't think I would get. I only wanted lower mobility .The interviewers are useless. You can get it reconsidered with more evidence or go to appeal. I won an appeal once. Depends on the decision maker you get or the Judge. Some are better than others
most of the people on these panels making the decisions have absolutely no clue what actually people suffer from.
I've been diagnosed with Anxiety/Panic Disorder, Depression as well as Agoraphobia and my day to life is 100% effected yet that's me now having to look forward to my 2 appeal, the system is all to hell and certainly needs to be looked at as genuine claims get refused.
Got it 2 month ago .
SO SO TRUE TORY CONS FLAWED COROURT SELFSERVERS GOVERTNMENT / DWP 2010-2024 IN EXPEREICE/ LACK KNOWLEDGE OFF EVERY DAY LIFE DONT CARE . JUST CONSERVE FOR RICH MANS TAX OFFSHORE AVATION .
Anyone can tell doctor they got anxiety and depression and get tablets
I know your vlog was created some time ago but I wanted to pick up on the point you made about them being nice to you. I was told when I went for the meeting that it was important that I finish the interview\assessment. Although I was in a total panic attack and crying I finished it so I would get my benefit but when they refused me, one of the negatives mentioned was that I was well enough to finish the interview. I think that was a horrible thing to do to someone, they put me under immense pressure to finish but when I did they marked me down. I hoped you appealed x
Watch this czcams.com/video/H6daMofasw0/video.html
Did you win
We should all be allowed to see the assessors notes.
Yep you are right they come arross as being all nicey nicey and on your side !!!!!!!!
i got my pip letter last week and i`m fuming. i got zero points for every single question. the assessor has lied and made up comments that were not discussed. i am in the process of mandatory reconsideration and also making an official complaint re the assessor for her misleading lies. i have a written report about the assessors notes and it unbelievable what she has written down, i will also be asking the assessment bodies to compare her notes and recommendations with the recording of the assessment. its disgraceful that people like that work for pip, i`m gutted and its sent me spiralling into a darker place than i was before.
All liars on commission , took me 2 years to get it .
Darren it happened to me. I was on DLA with a indefinite award for years. I was assessed for PIP, by a Paramedic. I got 4 points only. I asked for the report, some parts of what she put down were lies. I had to go through the appeal process, which took 12 months. The stress got to me. I had help with my appeal from the Law Centre. No Dwp representative was at my appeal. I had a great Judge, Doctor, and Disability lady. I was awarded standard Care and mobility. They had to give me back pay which was £6000. But I bloody struggled for that 12 months. As a Celiac, and having to buy special food was expensive on just a fortnightly ESA Payment, not to mention Chiropractor appointments for my Neck and lower back arthritis, which are expensive. What I didn't get about the report was at the end the accessor stated that my condition will only get worse over time so would recommend a " light Touch Review ' light Touch Reviews are for claimants who's condition is not likely to get better, so why only 4 bloody points. You need to fight for what is rightfully yours, it seems a lot of people are getting 0 points. It's disgraceful. I think the DWP , think that we won't appeal as it is to stressful for the claimant. Get help Darren. I've just filled in my PIP Review Form, and dreading the outcome. It's a waiting game. The things we have to go through when you have health issues is so dam depressing. But I will appeal again if I have to. I have the best support network organisation who will help me. All the best.
You can request the recording of the phone call.
if you got 8 points you should have got the standard daily living award.🤔
Fight it buddy I really hope you the best
Sorry that happened to you sir , things will get better but all the damage that they are doing to people at the moment is very real. Good on you for putting videos out raising awareness. Is Laura Pidcock your mp? From what I see she better than most, email her a link to the channel and a list or timline of issues maybe? Its a long shot and wont help in the immediate but might give her ammunition.
Stephen Hepburn MP from Jarrow even though I live in Gateshead boundry was changed .
What I've realised the more information you give the better, fill every bit of white space on your form and send docs letters and get your partner to write a letter explaining how you cope daily and how they help you
Got mine first attempt.
My Doc says he could only send copies of the hospital letters they had given him , nearly 300 pages of them .
@@johnmorrow7080 ..They wont accept appointment letter but will accept diagnosis letters from consultants.
Sorry to hear appeal the decision
He was blagging anyway dude
People not get pip advertising themselves on here u kant be so ill if u can commicate on here seriously u won't stand a chance
Yep I was refused PIP........It'fs funny cos all my life i've been given the PIP !!!!! lol lol lol but not on this occasion !!
Got it in the end 2 years of appeals .
Same
Appeal go to tribunal. Don't let the b****** take the benefits from you.
It’s disgusting as if your not well , or you need help for your child you don’t get the help you needs, we live in the Wales and il still hungry and in. Debt when where not we’ll , where is the justice , they know we are unwell as we’ve got to take tabs everyday sad world we live in , had no electric for awk and this is how the government treats unwell kids n ppl 😞
2 year fight for it,won January last year watch my other videos I was a mess back then nearly died 3 times, thanks for the comment hope you get what you need.
if you're not well then you should just get a job you can do instead of leeching off the taxpayer!!!!!!!!!
are u ok john
If you have the medical records to prove your conditions then do appeal. They look at my son aand because he can move his arms and legs he is ok. That is far, far from the truth. It has been a uphill struggle. I know I have had to fight for my son his whole life to the point where I could bang my head against the wall. If you truly believe you have a disability then do not give up...that is what they want you to do. If you fail after an appeal then I am not sure but do get the medical evidence to back you up.
Don't give up
Dont take this the wrong way but I know exactly what your problem was, it was because of what you said. You need to be completely negative and rack up those points. You also need to study the marking criteria which you can look up, make each of your answers fit to those points each time. For example if they ask are you able to cook food for yourself you could answer something like "no Im too afraid to cook for myself because of my depression I just cant stop thinking about killing myself, once I burned myself pretty badly on my leg and almost burnt the house down, I might try it again, my mum has to bring me food and im not allowed near the kitchen."
Did you see how I handled that? I told them my issue with cooking, my difficulty and my specific example. Next they will try to put words in your mouth, do not fall for this, you must be negative all the time. E.g. they could ask how are you on a good day so you could reply something "I feel like everyday is an awful day, I wake up every morning and I turn to dread because Im upset that Im still alive, I dont remember the last time I had a good day.
See I was extremely negative and never positive, if I said something like I felt good last week because my favourite tv show was on then that would go against me, they will twist it to say that Im not depressed all the time. You really need to understand the marking criteria and the same goes when you are answering the paper application as well. I was just awarded the full rate yesterday for depression and I didnt provide any medical evidence, they may have contacted my gp or looked up my medical records but the only medication im on is anti-depressants. I was actually quite shocked, I had my assessment on 1st July, awarded 24th July, back payment of 3k will arrive 29 July and now I will get £730 every 4 weeks. I found it easy but remember you need to be a negative nancy about every single aspect, do not be positive about anything.
Fight your case with a tribunal if necessary. They'll understand everything and you will win.
Had a terrible pip tribunal and got four points when I should have easily got ten. Dr was very hostile on the panel so now wondering what next I can do
Was it an Asian assessor by any chance !
What the hell does race have anything to do with it, they're following a checklist, you need to study the marking criteria very carefully, apply it to your conidition when you answer the questions, dont let them put words in your mouth, never say anything positive and you will rack up points. If you rack enough points then you will get it, there is no way around it, most people who get refused dont understand, its a game and you need to learn how to play it. Also I think the assessor was actually some ugly chav who lives in a crappy run down crack infested council estate in Mankychester.
Did you appeal ? You MUST match your illness and how it affects your life to the descriptors.You have to be extremely accurate .For example ‘I am unable to walk 20 meters without severe pain and having to stop to rest on any day ‘ ‘i have severe pain in both legs and feet which affects my walking’
It is no good just saying for example, ‘I have pain when i walk’
Reapply mate and maybe get some help matching your problems to the descriptors...good luck !
DO MR REVEIW if no good build case take it to industrial tribunral FIGHT CONMERCHANT TORYS . IT does not help when THE ATOS asseors lie lie on there report to DWP .
Took 2 years to get PIP l spent about a year in hospital with severe necrotising pancreatitis caused by gallstones nearly died 3 times when I rang DWP when I got back home they said you can make a new claim but will loose everything you've been fighting for I stuck with the claim, still not got what I'm owed .
@@johnmorrow7080 IAM 59 now pated 43 years class 1 tax/ ni paye . due to works accident 25+ years back . DAMANAGED SPINE/ BACK DEGENRATIVE FOR LIFE ... I awarded 10% industrial injury for life . FAST FORWARD 2019 ON slaught 2nd degenrative changes LIMITED WALKING AROUND 20- 50 METERES HAVE SIT DOWN STANDING NO MORE 1 MIN MOBILITY ISSUES . / yes i still do bit work I DRIVE / no handball manuall handling . ONLY DO part time 2 , 3 days 30 HRS week. NOT FULL TIME 5 DAYS 48 HOUR WEEKS . .. AS WHEN TOP UP INCOME WITH UC UNI CREDIT . IF from jan 2023 you earn abouve AET £618 SINGLE mouth you left alone nofurther job search . . I appley PIP 2019 REFUSED / MR REFUSED / TRIBUNRAL . JUDGE SAID yes i had mobility issues . but law states all eveidence must be within 18 mouths off claiming pip . MY orpho surgeon report / industrial injury 20 + years old there fore up held DWP RESULT DUE lack up date eveidence . There was also DWP persons present & tribunral . LETS face it since april 2016 7 years now UC50 / PIP assetnments done by 3 rd party capital/ atos asseors paid £600 week/ £32k year . BUT for each person fail pip pass work uc50 they get BONUS . SO tell porkys on there reports DWP . TORYS CONSERVATIVIES . DONT CARE AGE 55-64 PAYED 43 YEARS NI OUR MONEY PAID IN . DISABILITYS IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO WORK . IT WORK TO YOU DROP NOW OR 66 RETIRTNMENT / TORYS OUT MAY 2024 . STAY SAFE .
I got denied pip the person I saw wasn't an expert in mental illness I get intrusive thoughts they said in report I have to commit a violent crime and then I can claim pip
crossbow intrusive thoughts can be scary. Down downplay someone else’s feelings.
crossbow screw u I bet u have had a perfect life
crossbow intrusive thoughts always messes with your head u wanna kill your neighbours it's so intense your worried about your neighbours lives u tell your support worker she reports u I've even been to prison cause it got out of hand
@@crossbow5318 you have the intelligence of a Walnut Whip son sort your life out
@@MattEssex33 lol atleast i don't claim pip because im an actual functioning member of society who does not sit on their ass claiming benefits
Hope you appealed John
Won it , took 2 though czcams.com/video/H6daMofasw0/video.html
Did u get ur pip in the end
yes last month
I was under the impression if you get 8 points you get the daily living no? Or has it recently been lowered?
Still 8-12 points
@@sally-annllewellynartist9362 Thanks pretty sure I got 8pts but 12 maybe not, we'll see
Apply again in 2years time
Didn't you get 8 points ?
8 gets you the care side of PIP but not the mobility side , they agreed I needed help , it took 2 years to win my case , thanks for watching , I'm still on dialysis , I saw a doctor last week who said they are going to try to get me back on the transplant list .
He's blagging it
@@johnmorrow7080 I got 28 points just for depression, you really need to learn how to answer the questions. Ive written a more detailed comment on here, you should give it a read.
Seems like a blag
A blag are you accusing me of lieing ?
I thought 8 points and over qualifies you for pip ?
If you get between 8 and 11 points in total, you'll get the daily living component of PIP at the standard rate. If you get at least 12 points in total, you'll get the daily living component at the enhanced rate.
@@johnmorrow7080 but you got 8 points so wasn't that enough for daily living standard rate ?
Yh. You're right they are liars on commission! I'm prescribed 10 tablets a day, have medication,cooking, incontinence, bathing, budgeting and social issues. But despite this, the assessor awarded 0points!
It’s disgusting