Why Baby Birds OVERWHELM New Owners | 4 Month Old Baby Blue and Gold Macaw
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2021
- Most people feel like their baby birds are perfect... as was said with this 4 month old blue and gold macaw Arwen. Big thank you to John and Lisa for allowing us to film them with their new baby bird. We appreciate people like them who buy training courses before getting animals and attend classes to help get ahead of problematic behaviors.
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I love how you train us to do what the bird needs.
Yes, it’s a let down sometimes when you hoped theyd wrestle for instance, but you find unexpected joy and fun in giving it what it needs.
PS My bird talks 85% of the time and occasionally my bf would say “no” when he chirped. I was like, “yes! …He gets to chirp and be a bird too!” They are already completely adapting to our lives.
I'm sorry, this comment doesn't relate to this video in particular. I just wanted to share something. My budgie, named Blue, passed away earlier today. I came home and found him on the bottom of his cage, and it really hurts. We believe he died from old age, as he was quite an old budgie, although he died without warning. But, I wanted to thank you. Thanks to the resources you provided, we were able to give him a great life before he passed. He went from being neglected to loved and cared for. I watched him change from absolutely terrified to initiating interaction with us, wanting to spend time with us. We saw behaviors we never saw before, we saw him sleep and play and bathe and we heard him make all sorts of happy noises he never used to. He became target and flight trained, he zoomed around our house and got into all sorts of budgie mischief we had to keep him out of. I owe you so much for that, thank you for helping me make him happy. It means a lot to me.
It’s very sad….but don’t worry he is all right….I have experienced it…….don’t worry he is just with you loving you and thanking you ! Be happy you were able to give him a good life.
I’m really sorry for your loss. Try not to think about finding him in the cage but how happy he was before his time came. I’m sure you did a great job keeping him happy and healthy.
@@crispcreative4090 Ahh thank you, I appreciate it.
@@endervlle3365 We certainly did our very best! Thank you, I'll try to keep my mind off of it. He was just a little guy who we loved so very much.
Awww. I’m so sorry.
This is one of the many reasons I love rescues. You can skip the whole bratty stage and hormonal tween stage, and first molt, and get right to undoing the damage someone else did that you would have done at those ages :)
I adopted adult parrots for this reason : teenage rebel phase is done.
Personally as an owner of a Quaker we got when she was 5 months old, now 2 yrs old, Ivy was a dream the first 6 months. She learned fast, let me preen her everywhere needed til she fell asleep on me. Now she seems she is in a perpetual molt, but adores me, worships me! But not sure if it’s hormones at play, but she can be moody sometimes. We are together most of the day, flies only when spooked, and I adore this hot mess. She eats fruit and veg, healthy dried food sprinkled in with some Harrison’s Lifetime nuggets. So why the constant molt and picking at some leg, under wing and chest feathers? My thinking she needs to be more independent and fly more. She’s only in her day cage when I go shopping or to dinner. Sleeps in her own room covered with a night light, sleep cage. I take her outside with me in her outdoor cage whenever possible.
I think you hit on something with the independence idea. Getting time outside of the cage is great, but you want her to like her cage, too. She needs to feel comfortable there. You might be doing this already, but I would be making sure my bird had plenty of tiny toys to nibble on in the cage, making it a fun play zone, too, and training sessions encouraging her to engage with those toys. Beyond that, I would look at what JamieLeigh and Dave mention in the video. Fruit. It's a lot of sugar. It can disrupt hormones and nerves. It can even contain allergens that could cause your bird to itch and pick at its feathers. Different birds have different dietary needs, so it depends on the breed, but I would really look into that. Ask yourself too if your bird is getting enough bath times, maybe consider trying Jamie's aloe spray on the Birdtricks website. There's probably more to the codependency issue that could be causing stress, but my comment is already too long! 😂 And I'm not an expert, but I'll bet there are more vids from Birdtricks specifically on the topic of feather and skin issues. I know they have mentioned how oils in our skin can impact our bird's feather health before, so check for their videos on that. I hope this helps! 😊
How much sunlight do she get?
@@TamaraKane I give her about 5 dried currants per day, along with 1/4 teaspoon chopped apple. That’s the only fruit she likes. But I could back that off and see if that helps! She bathes mostly every other day. She really loves to bathe I. Her outside cage, which I give her a little tub of water to bathe when she wants. Ts been warm still ere in Texas. But as soon as it’s too cool she will have all her baths indoors, or shower with me.
Toys, UGh! Hard to get her to play with much. She loves little medicine cups, Dixie cups, shredding paper. But all the toys I’ve made or bought her freak her out. Although she does love this one bell. Lol
@@roger1624 About an hour or two, weather permitting. It’s been a hellish hot summer so I only took her out before noon.
As an owner of 2 Quakers, I can confirm the species is just a hot mess. SO much fun but sometimes they go overboard. They are also the horniest Birds I have ever met.
I feel for them. It's easy to see they love their baby bird and want to be successful in training, but it must be overwhelming at times. It reminds me of my son wanting to stay up all night playing video games or watching videos. I can see that he loves the internet! But if he stays awake too late, he's miserable at school the next day, he's tired, he's stressed. It's tough to be the bad guy parent sometimes and try to change up a routine or habits that look fun for little ones, but actually aren't healthy longterm. I hope they'll rewatch their session with you guys because I can see them benefitting from the advice over time. They seem willing to course correct. There's obviously a lot to watch out for, though. They did the right thing getting a session with experts! Brilliant tips here. I'm going to be rewatching this one myself for the body language and cues. Crucial stuff!
Loved this video!! Some good reminders for all parrot owners, regardless of how old your parrot is!
Cant wait to get my rainbow lori, but soooo nervous. Iv been binging your vids. I feel so much more confident. Birds training and dog training is very similar. And watching the vids i see that i catch the body language which was my biggest concern. Thank you so very much for your videos! And all you do
Omg I love lorikeets! Are you in Au?? It makes me so happy to hear that you're getting one :) so many people overlook them!
I think its because they are messy and have such a specialized diet.
@@jessicascanlan4396 I'm in Florida I started working with a rescue I'm currently fostering a sun conure for a little over a month now. After all my research I've decided to work with the rescue until they get a lori in and then I will Foster and adopt lol though the sun conure might be a Foster fail I'm a little in love with her
Aww, that’s a beautiful baby B&G, with a camera ready well-oiled beak! Best of luck with your little beauty!
The baby bird course!!! Yay i found what I need! Thanks
Way late but.. dog trainers comment on this too. You can send a dog for a professional training course but if you do not keep on top of it, that training is going to disappear. Human training also sometimes is required :D
Ahh I wish you guys could meet my baby blue throated macaw!! He’s 7 months old and I’m obsessed with him.
I think the only downside is that eats the trim to my window when he thinks that I’m not paying attention.
All the toys that he has and the window frame has become forbidden fruit 😅
You could look up some sort of bitter non toxic spray? It's a common training tool for puppies or mouthy adult dogs. All it does is taste bad.
I tried pepper spray thinking it would discourage my bird from chewing on the wall underneath the sink but nope! She didn’t mind at all.
Great content all the bird talk has gotta drive you nuts sometimes but business is business and your both incredibly knowledgeable thanks for always sharing
Another cool video just saw it now cool video
what an adorable couple. so proactive too dayumm
I love all your advice ❤
You guys are doing amazing things
I’m an ex horse trainer with psychiatric issues. Maslows heirachy of needs is missed so often.
It’s similar to watching horse people, its the humans who need training not the animals.
Love your work ❤#eclectusmum
good advise
Very good reminder to me, I've let training slip and my bird has taken advantage of that. Not her
fault, but my slackness. She won't even step up sometimes unless really hungry, or her favourite
treat .... Bad Mummy !!!!
To be honest, we prefer our IRN as an adult. He was 6 weeks old when we got him and although he was all cute and all, he was a jerk :D He was hand-raised, but not very tame. Took him about a year to become “normal”, but cuddling was never his thing and we learned to accept that. I think putting him on a proper diet helped more than training, but yeah, his awesome now :D
How can I get some of your Cockatiel food for my 6 year old boy? I’m his third owner. The first owner (male) died & was cared for by a woman. There were 2 birds . They were separated . I’m looking for another male Cockatiel. . The 2 birds were kept in a small cage for 3 years. With me , Pretty bird gets lots of attention & is is bonded to me
Love to the flock ❤️
video deserves more love
Thank you 🥰
your welcome ^^
Would you mind recommending a good cage for my single lovebird, if you ever get a moment, out of your busy schedule? At first I bought a cage that fit her needs/size of my home in a ratio of 80:20, but since she came (I adore her more every day) I have rearranged my home and now have space to buy a cage that hopefully will be 100pc ideal for her. It will be a big expense and simply knowing a reliable manufacturer would help me to not make a mistake. I have researched on the Internet but would value your experience. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge for bird lovers. X
well I always thought my Ringneck was perfect as baby because he would never bite he would listen when he was about a year old he started biting a little so i asked for ringneck videos on you channel and i knew target training was the key but i wanted to check because are normally hormonal if I'm not wrong. This video was really nice seeing a baby macaw but i want to see beau
Baby Beau the macaw? He was meltingly cute. Perhaps he’s already gone home to live with his family….¯\_(ツ)_/¯
An honest question.... You train so many tricks etc but discourage beak play. Do you not believe you can also train bite pressure? I understand the heightened aspect but bite pressure training seems like something that would be a benefit and allow for some mild beak play
I have a 9 week old Indian ringneck that for some reason, just the last three to four days, has started screeching and head bobbing first thing in the morning. I have run out of things to try to calm and quiet her but to no avail. She is flying so I have areas she flies to that I have put some toys (where I can) in the hopes it will be interesting enough to quiet down but nope. I've put her back in her cage and covered it till she quietens down but nope. I've tried cuddling her but nope. Coincidently there's a bird nesting in my roof that have new hatchlings (I can hear them), so I wonder if that is causing this? I've tried foods but... you guessed it, nope. What can I do?
Great video guys, I've heard you guys say especially with blue n gold's. I don't have a bird so I thought macaws were the same just different colours. You guys are the best, considering I watch and I don't have a birds. Lol
As a Catalina Macaw owner I can attest that Catalina Macaws are much nippier in general than a Blue and Gold. My Catalina Macaw has a Scarlett attitude.
My african grey has consistently refused to eat or even taste banana for about 7 years straight now...am I allowed to say he *really* does not like banana? ;D (my other two birds love banana, as a special snack- not food, and he always gets it offered as well)
QUESTION: why avoid "heightened" and not just teach your bird to deal with it? My macaw used to 'go blind with excitement' when she first discovered playing with toys (age 11), and yes, she would/could not discern between toy and my fingers. So we worked on that. Right now she can be chasing, hacking, throwing things around, but will hold back the moment she encounters a finger (or other body part). Teaching self-control is sooooo much easier than walking on egg-shells to avoid a bothered bird. (Yes, I am lazy.)
Hi how did you teach her that please? As need to teach my conure
@@Moonietie I am not really a trainer, so I did not use a 'method' per se.
The first thing is to get some kind of communication going (and I have to admit, that big beak...I know what they can do with it, so yes, was a bit aprehensive- but living in fear is no life, not for me or the birds).
So: make sure they know "no" or "stop" (I use a alarmed sounding, but not very loud EhEhEhEhEhEhEhEh for 'emergency break').also just the normal 'no' (or sometimes 'nee' = 'no' in Dutch).
Birds are smart they wil pick up when they go too far, if you are consistent in the "stop that" signs and sounds.
Pick one you like.
My macaw loves attention, so the no-sound and no more attention/ stop the playing/ physically stepping away from her did the trick.
Later on- when she did the little nips/ too much pressure during play...I made the Ehehehehehe-sound when she got a bit too rough, and froze play when she really overdid it (I would "freeze my hand), the sudden tension is something birds repond to, like it is Red Alert (in nature it is!)
She did not like feeling alarmed, so learned very fast not to provoke it.
I broke the "rule" of breaking of contact etc. to "punish" the bird, just a break of a few seconds is plenty for her (she has abandonment-issues, so always make sure the punishment fits the crime ;D ). She could be on her back playing with my fingers, and just grab too roughly ...no fun, but also, after a freeze frame, asking her to let go, and if she did, just relax (breath out, let your own tension go / pain will always make people tense up a bit) and if you both want to: continue the fun.
I did it the hard way (maybe?), and yes there were quite a few bandaids thanks to accidents (learningprocess) but now I have a bird that even in wild excitement of play will check herself if she grabs a finger, not the toy, by accident. She even stopped giving me nips & break the skin to make a point/ she would resort to it if something was bothering her and she did not know a different way of communicating this (soooo annoying).
Just make sure you watch the birdy-bodylangauge and know their signals, from looking alarmed or focus a bit too long on something (could be something they want, of something they do not trust...that for us to figure out).
Conures are gorgeous birds, and so fast!
Also: every interaction with your bird is a training-moment, not just the few minutes a day your are learning/teaching tricks.
It's also in how you you say goodmorning, if you give them a little snack: you let them know if they did it nice or rough etc.etc. They also let you know how they feel every second of the day, raising feathers, posturing, looking at you funny (or not at all) etc.etc..
Sometimes our timing is not good for the bird (mine loves interaction, except when she doesn't ... late in the afternoon she likes to just vegetate, maybe snooze a bit. Later in the evening she is ready to go play, have fun. So if I want to work on her nails: we do it in the morning, she likes grooming best that time of day. I can make her coorporate/tolerate it on other times, but why fight your bird?)
See if you can match your windows of opportunity, that makes it sooo much easier. (Birdtricks make the birds have a certain rythm/ trainingsscedule with the feedings etc. that also works, as long as you do not overdo it.) But regular things help, if training is everyday at five...they will know! (and anticipate).
Find a mood, find a place, find a common language, find what your birld loves (food, attention, physical play, just hanging out with you
I am too old to get a baby bird. But someone was selling their 8 month old brown head because they couldn’t make rent. They did a great job with her and I let her pick me once I got her to my home and she’s a great learner and loves to practice.
All my birds are rescues/rehomes. My youngest is the brown head and my oldest is my Amazon at 21 years. All but two of my birds will step up but they all love me.
Birds are beginning to take over my life! I am either working with my Harris’s hawk( licensed falconer) or training my parrot flock. I think I might finally be ready for a Macaw. I think getting an African Grey made me even more obsessed. Maybe I am a big bird person. I love the training and flying aspect. My small birds fly inside, but there is nothing like flying outside.
My African Grays recall training after 9 years of consistent training is very good. I recently adopted my first large bird, a Catalina Macaw and it is a huge step up. All of my birds are rescues so it might be a little easier to train a baby but I think I’m up for the challenge.
Reminds me of a dog, do you want these problems when they are adult and a lot stronger
“Pick your top 3” was something that really helped me with my ASD sons. Only it was 2, tops. What can we NOT live with? Work on that. Then, when that’s modified, we move on.
How would you go about doing a consultation with someone in Hawaii? Just curious.
We offer consults via Zoom 😀
@@BirdTricks I figured as much. Thanks for the reply!
what reason do you wantnto hold her feet with her thumb?
That’s bc sadly when birds are babies, that isn’t who they’re gonna be, and what they’re gonna act like forever. Through training, and building good foundations in the early stages you can maybe condition them to keep some remnants of it; but yeah.
Tbh I love who my bird is now more than who he was when he was a baby (I got him at around 3 months) I love baby birds but it’s sorta like with human children enjoy the infant/early stages but be prepared for them to grow into themselves and developed their own little personalities and vibes.
i wonder how much they charge for these sessions
I am watching this and I am overwhelmed… I have experienced play baby bird turn to play ruff adult… May be this course should be cut into several stages and done at different times. First stage in person, second and third virtual or combination because you really end up loosing confidence in the midst of all the details❤️❤️❤️
It can be overwhelming. I'm personally going to be rewatching this video! 😂 Importantly, hang in there! It's a lot of info, but it gets easier to remember the more you practice it. If something's not right with your routine, change it up! Watch more Birdtricks. 😂 ❤️
"And not that kind of pyramid" 🤣🤔🧐😅
PS Woah… at 16:15 does she have a WHOPPING bruise on her arm from a bite?? Ouch 😣
I think it's a flower tattoo
Cant give a little bit of the hierarchy of needs for birds? Well that sucks..
I don’t have a problem getting my birds in their cages. I put a short perch on the door to every cage. They have to go to the perch if they want to come out. They have to go there to get a treat. They have to go there to get back in the cage. All 8 of my birds rush to their cages when I say “who wants millet?” And I put millet in their holder and they either stay on the perch or go to one closer to the millet.
The bird repeatedly flying to you when you Don't ask would get really annoying i would imagine
BTW, just so someone's said it: a baby is a primate infant. An infant bird is a chick.
I"m always amazed (horrified) when people who've never had a bird get a BABY! 😳
Why? People who have never had a bird before can successfully raise a baby if they do the research and get help early and often.
I have 3 rescues and one was a baby. My baby Senegal was so much easier than my 4 year old Catalina macaw to train. I think babies are better for beginners.
I’m autistic myself and comparing an autistic child to a baby macaw is really ableist. Autistic people are people, not animals. They are completely different, autistic children don’t need to be “tamed”. Why specifically bring up that their son is autistic? If you want to compare birds to young children, fine, but it has nothing to do with the child being autistic. Please think about how this can affect real autistic people who are watching your content.
Yea seriously, I definitely didn’t need training or taming of any kind to be able to survive as a person. It would be nice if he didn’t speak on areas where he even admits he has no experience
I can understand your sensitivity to a statement which, on the surface, appears unthinking. I’ll also mention that I’ve had no 1:1 experience with people affected with autism. In watching these videos, however, I believe these are good people and would be horrified that they caused pain. I’m so sorry you were hurt. I hope they read your comment and become enlightened as to how their words were received.
Im glad someone is pointing this out. I find it strange the lady just went along and agreed. It was definitely an unnecessary addition to the comparison.
I can see why it's hurtful to you, but the unfortunate truth is that a family that has gone through ABA therapy with their autistic child WOULD actually know similar concepts to most of the techniques taught in their bird training course and learn it faster for that reason. Both are simply based on operant conditioning. They weren't trying to hurt anyone, they love their birds dearly and don't look at them as "lesser" so I doubt they realized how it sounded.
@@paula889 and if you knew anything about the topic you’d know that ABA therapy has some really nasty roots in how it looks at autistic people and has largely been pushed against by the autistic community. It’s as simple as not comparing autistic humans to animals because it’s disrespectful, regardless of how they meant it impact matters more than intent.
Hello, I’m looking for the Baby Bird course on your website but can’t see for looking. If it’s still available is it suitable for training baby cockatiels? Thanks! 🦜🦜
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for some beginners, adopting can be quite tough as the rescue birds tend to be more difficult to train and keep as pet
Adopt and shop responsibly ❤️
Shove your extremism. If you can't learn to listen and be understanding, you shouldn't be here.
@Cairrean shove your extremism? And your comments to people participating in the autism conversation. You are not helpful at all and are just insulting people.