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@@jingkoyestrada5844 Jason is consistently more taller with his actors than Michael Myers. The only time Michael Myers has the edge in height is in the rob zombie movies They’re more or less equal, if not Jason being taller The original Halloween had Nick castle who is 5 10 playing Michael Myers followed by dick warlock who is 5’9 The other ones has him from 6’1 to 6’3 Jason’s shortest actor is 6’1
Also, another origin of Jason's "Death Curse" was actually a Native American blood curse placed on the land in the 1800's due to them being slaughtered innocently. It needed to take form of its wrath through another tragedy, the vessel was Jason. You can read that in the Friday The 13th comics.
I’ve always been a Jason fan more than a halloween one but i’ll give micheal props for His creepy nature of his existence. If anything can contend with the void its probably a necronomic hell spawn. As for Jason’s fate, I can believe that Jason was always going to grow up to be a Goliath of a man, perhaos even a deathless one, but I think its an essential part of his story that his murderous rampages could’ve been avoided if not for human negligence and cruelty. Micheal scary because he can’t he’s unexplainably cruel, Jason’s scary because you know he’s suffered too much to ever stop.
I read that Jason just gets stronger every time he comes back, so I think he'd end up putting Myers down most of the time even if they keep fighting for eternity.
You'd have to dismember both of them. My favorite Jason movie was when Jason takes Manhattan lol. When he was chasing that hot agent and they just caught him in a crossfire and then blew him up That's about the only way to kill both of them. Cuz they can pretty much heal or keep going Jason is a walking corpse. But Michael Myers has been shot stabbed caught on fire all kinds of things but he heals I think Jason would tear him apart with that machete.
Jason wouldn’t be stable enough to be a disciplined sith. It would take someone stronger than Sidius to train him, or to even just get him to stand still. He’s not going to stop. Myers is still sane enough to know when he’s out classed and would probably be the first choice. Then again he did make a point saying Jason can still be talked to the side of good. Sith Lords love to talk lol. So you’re right. We don’t need a sith Jason lol. He’d break the game😂😂
If these two fought it would literally never end. It would just keep going and going and going. FOREVER. Until either Michael gets bored or the universe ends.
@@michaelmyers5605 Yeah. But that is not the point. Michael has no way to put Jason down. Jason has been stabbed hundreds of times. With literally no effect.
@@michaelmyers5605 Thanks for stating the obvious. That is my point. If you actually payed attention you would know that I said neither of them can win. The fight would never end because they both can't die.
Jason Voorhees is among the lesser evils in the slasher genre. He was developmentally disabled and tormented. I think that is why people like mashing him up with others. He is the most sympathetic of monsters aside from Frankenstein.
Jason’s speed, raw strength, experience and durability/regeneration give him the edge, both beings are constant forces and the deciding factor is who can take more blows which it’s Jason, he can also keep Michael at a distance with his expert weapon abilities such as archery and his strength which is a tier above Michaels
If these two were Sith Lords?! Other Sith Lords:"Oh damn! Here comes Jason and Michael!" Jason: "Who am I going to kill today?" Michael: "Who do I want to kill today?" *Look at each other* Michael:"Hmmmmm" Jason: "Oh yeah!"
Imagine at the end of Halloween ends, the girl gets a post card from a mysterious lady saying she needs her help she heard what her and her grandmother have went through and done, and the letter is from Camp Crystal lake, and you see Jason’s hands rip out the ground. They set up a Jason vs Michael movie ! That would be dope
I don't think it would work as well as Freddy vs Jason, because Jason is a rip-off Michael Meyers neither one talks, you would need Laura Strode vs mother Vorhees to make it watchable
@@Hughjasswipe Freddy may not have known love, but he did know a twisted form of affection. He had to at least be somewhat charming to pull off the criminal acts he did.
@@Hughjasswipe I'm pretty sure Jason also Hates all form of bullies as well because was bullied himself. If that's the Case that kinda includes Freddy i think
This was a great deconstruction of each character and made it a very entertaining video. I didn't realize the extent of how OP both these horror icons are. Great video! Subbed!
This was a great matchup, yeah I wouldn't be able to choose whichever one to win a straight up fight but the idea and concepts of both are fascinating Good vid! 👀👍
I lover your videos because you can tell you take the lore of characters very seriously. I respect that. I never knew any of this shit about either character.
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Just want to throw in my two cents. If Freddy can make Jason flinch because of flashbacks and water and mother then he has a great moment of weakness. Mr Michael Myers doesn't stop
Freddy Vs Jason is 100% NOT canon. It was made for Fan service alone. Face it, Jason is the equivilent of Heavy Metal, while Michael is the equivalent of Justin Bieber.
Even if I was going to give that the benefit of the doubt, Jason Voorhees is not going to have that susceptibility against a dude who just throws hands. Jason is highly resistant to any hax that Michael Myers has. Jason is stronger, faster, more resilient, more durable, has a higher pain tolerance (as wild as that is). Not to mention, Jason canonically gets more powerful with each ressurection.
They wouldn't fight. They would stop and stare at each other for a few moments, each assessing the other. After a while, they exchange weapons, Jason taking Michael's chef's knife, Michael taking Jason's machete. They then walk past each other, off on their respective merry way, searching for their next kill. Both realising they've met a kindred spirit, making their day a little brighter! Each year thereafter, they send each other a Christmas present..............................probably a human heart.
Michael's intelligence would play a significant part because he would be relentless. Yes, Jason would shrug of any kind of attack and keep coming but Michael would be the type if he can't take Jason out the first time, he would look for new attacks. No matter the method, Myers would continue to try and find and exploit some weakness of Jason. He won't stop until the job is done.
This is underplaying Jasons intellect, sure freddy was able to out play him in the dream realm where he could basically pull off any number of random shit, and the military did pull off a surprise attack, but Jason knows the game well, he can ambush and outmaneuver. And micheals been caught with his pants down before too.
I like to think Jason was an innocent, and it's always been my headcanon since Jason Goes To Hell that yeah, it was Pamela using the Necronomicon to resurrect him. I think that twisted something in him spiritually when he was brought back. There's still a SMALL part of good there I think, based the How I Spent My Summer Vacation comic and he is the lesser of two evils when compared to Freddy at least. And yeah I think there's definitely a Lovecraftian vibe with he and the Friday the 13th series. Lovecraft did do a lot of big cosmic gods and aliens, but I also seem to remember at least one story that just had a crazy guy with an axe. There's levels. I personally think Pamela was driven crazy by the ritual that raised Jason from the dead, but it was Jason's voice that spoke to her. It was the spirit of Jason that seems to hover around, like what Renny saw in Part 8 or what attacked Alice in the lake at the end of the first movie.
The only way this would be "fair" is if you use human Jason. Zombie Jason and Uber Jason (both from movies and comics) would kill pretty much every version of Michael fairly effortlessly. But yes, no matter what, both of them will always come back. Jason just takes victory more often than not
You failed to mention Micheal being in a coma for 10 years. How about that time he couldn't do shit for a whole year and some old fisherman took care of him for a year. Literally had to feed him . Micheals genius is also overated.loomis has also.dupped Myers before so has his sister . Let not forgetthat one time Micheal fucking cried while attempting to kill his niece. It's great you pull more lore into both characters but including their comics but we can't ignore the movies, Micheal has to many disadvantages going up against Jason. He isn't stronger, more durable I'd argue Jason has more supernatural hax then Micheal. Michael has never endured and took damage like Jason. Jason ever recovers from gunshots faster then Micheal. Michael has never been tested like Jason. He only prays on weak ass ppl who are afraid of him. Jason would not and does not fear shit. I respect Mike but he cannot measure to Jason
14:28 Not true actually. In All 3 of his time lines, Micheal has never officially died even once. Also It’s confirmed (In the comics) that when he dies, he can just possess a random person near him and take over there body. Kind of like Jason, except his Is Instant and doesn’t require a gremlin monster thing to crawl down Into your thought.
Not true. Michael Myers became A literal human curse that can’t die and Is also super human. His Comics are Cannon and so are Jason’s . Micheal could actually win. If Jason’s comics weren’t canon. That Really F***KS Micheal Over
@@Anime_Stand_5 Oh ffs, again watch the Halloween 4-6 and you will see Myers hasn’t done any feats proving he can actually take out Deadite Jason at all. Deadite Jason overall has stronger feats then any Myers.
My buddy always prefers Jason and I always prefer Michael. And we always go back and forth only using the movies and it gets me every time but now I'm going to pull out some mine hacks on him. From the comics bro thank you for this LOL. There also is some books that give Credence to what you're saying when it comes to Jason being friendly to people who understand him because there is a book where this guy goes to hell and he meets Jason. And they have like a spiritual bonding moment and Jason becomes like his friend.
Meyers beat Jason. Why? Meyers from the get go has all of his powers. So that means he's able to beat sack cloth Jason easy. Jason was a wimp, taken out by a couple using a ax. Then hockey mask Jason is a lil stronger but still not able to take down meyers, and was taken out again by hanging and a machete. Then you have fake Jason who is a kid dressed as him. Then you have Feldman Jason who got his ass whoop by Cory Feldman. Again all of these version meyers would of slaughter Jason. Not til zombie Jason does he have a chance and its a fair fight. But he's still stupid, and weak to drowning. Then you have Uber Jason which is his strongest version only due to the nano tech which gives him super healing. Meyers can't beat that, but then Jason in space is stupid. Meyers don't need to got to space to be relevant. Then you have remake jason/meyers. Jason is strong but not super human. He's fast, able to make traps and is like a hunter. While meyers is a giant, hulk like. Not as smart but def stronger then Jason. This would depend on location who win a fight. But mostly meyers would take it because he will win a straight fight while Jason would need a place that is his turf to win.
For Me - Michael Myers is a far better character (in my opinion Jason is somewhat derivative of him) - also, Jason is a bit more of a 'Slasher' where Michael has a more 'Horror' aspect (which I prefer) - and that Shatner Mask is so iconic and works so well even though it came about as a bit of a last minute 'we need a mask kind of thing' - 'see what you can find in the costume shop' :)
Eh I can’t say I agree. I find Jasons story of retribution for his childhood rife with abuse compelling him beyond death considerably more compelling than micheal being evil for evils sake. Not that irredeemable villains can’t be interesting but I honestly don’t get why so much explanations need to go into the fact he just liked killing people. Micheals mask and look is admittedly iconic but also pretty boring, Jason switches things up a lot more snd while their not all the best looks It can be really appreciated on a special effects stand point.
Michael Myers has always been my favorite for some reason of all horror characters. I was confused when they made Freddy vs Jason. Even thoufh at the end of Jason goes to hell it teased it when the Krueger hand grabbed his mask. But I always thought Jason vs Michael Myers was the more intriguing battle. Shame we cant see this play out on the big screen or maybe its a goos thing we dont. Freddy vs Jason was kinda a let down so i wouldnt want them to make a terrible movie about these 2. Maybe someone will come along and give this the respect it deserves
The difference, you might be able to escape Meyers, as his sister discovered, if you play your cards right, but there's no escaping Jason. He will teleport to your desitnation, (the opening scene to F13 part 2) wherever that may be. Yeah, my money is on Jason. Plus, Jason's whole persona is way more Metal than Michael's.
I don't count comic book crap. Both these characters were created in films, not comics. As for the characters. I feel as those their are many forms of Jason. As the movies went on he just got stronger and more zombie like. So sack cloth Jason is pretty weak. He was nearly killed by a regular couple and a sharp edge weapon. Then you have hockey mask version of Jason. He was a lil bit stronger but still died pretty easily. Then you have fake Jason which is just a human that was mentally challenged. Then you got zombie Jason, and this is where you see a big power boost. At this point is where it would be a close fight on who would win between meyers and Jason. Both have super human strength, stealth, and able to endure a lot of damage. The next Jason form is Uber Jason, which is his most powerful form. So he has his healing factor upgraded with the nano tech. This is the only form that meyers can't beat. Then you have remake Jason and meyers. Jason is strong, but not super human. He's more of a hunter and he's able to think, and set traps while meyers is just a giant and a badass. Hes way stronger then Jason but not as smart. Hes more brute like, so hard to say who would win. It would depend on location.
Well, Jason would clearly be more like a Malak or a Malgus: this is to say, he'd be a brute, tanking most damage and using overwhelming strength in their combat. Likely using sabers with blades designed for power blows and dealing as much damage as possible. Michael on the other hand might be more like a Vitiate or Sidious. Likely using a saber like Maul with crystals that have similar effects to Kylo's blade. Just to ensure maximum pain and damage.
I also like how the fat kid's name changes from Wade to Adrian....I mean maybe his name was Adrian Wade, but I don't think they ever mention that. I like how Loomis also brings up the black kid Blair one time....and he never appears again.
I like your video as well as horror discussions in general. Here’s how this would go down. If you’re talking Jason before part 6, then Michael wins. Almost no contest. After Jason’s first true resurrection in part 6, Jason wins. Uber Jason is just pretty much overkill. The real stats that count here are durability and final girl kill count. On the one hand, Jason has never killed any of his final girls. Thus, he has been defeated several times. He was first truly killed... by a little kid. Not a special kid. Not a kid with supernatural powers. Tommy was just some kid. If a little boy can take Jason out then it wouldn’t be hard for Michael to take Jason out considering that Jason is not much of a strategist. After being resurrected though, revenant/undead Jason wins. Michael has not survived half of the things Jason has. He’s never been blown up. He’s never survived Re-entry into the earths atmosphere WITHOUT A SPACE SHIP!! As a matter of fact, Michael has displayed several times that if his life is in immediate danger, he will run away, or switch places with a EMS worker or whatever. Jason will keep coming regardless. The most damage I’ve seen Michael take was being set on fire at the end of Halloween 2. After that, he was in a coma for 10 years. Yes, he survived it, but once again, in a 10 year coma. Also, his body was left in tact, so there’s no evidence that he would survive something like a decapitation or dismemberment. Also, Jason has been proven to kill for simple pleasure as opposed to displaying empathy of any kind. As a matter of fact, the only people Jason has shown mercy to has been children. I suppose Michael does have the edge there as he definitely will kill children along with anything else that crosses his path.... if he feels like it. Bottom line. Undead Jason would simply tear Michael limb from limb until Michael simply stops moving.
Myers went into a coma while Jason would've just straight up died lol. Myers has taken practically everything Jason has but has actually survived. Saying that there's no evidence that Michael would survive something like decapitation or dismemberment is silly because Jason doesn't even survive that. He suffered such things and died from it (then came back with the help of plot), but he's never actually survived that stuff.
But what about in the 2018 halloween movie when michael saw a baby in a room by itself and he walked away to not kill it? It seems like he has a line that he wouldnt cross.
You're actually counting the Blumhose Halloween films? Blumhouse is the worst thing to happen to Horror, so how anyone can take them seriously is beyond me.
All I'm saying is that in Halloween 2 ( I think ) the scene where the hospital hallway got lit on fire michael was meant to die but they wanted to make more films because the first one was successful.
We have never seen Michael get dismembered in any capacity… in a fight with Jason it is happening. He did tear off Freddy’s limbs in both the real world and dream world. Human Jason’s death would likely have the same effect on Michael… skull cleaved in half with a machete… and jason came back from that as an actual revenant… a revenant does not go back to being a corpse till it’s goals are accomplished. Kinda like the crow.
See i wish they made a movie about Jason vs Michael instead of Freddy, peoples arguments was that they don't talk to it wouldn't make sense but id still prefer it, like the plot could be dr lomus or the government or whoever somehow trick's Michael into going into camp crystal lake and he will inevitable fight Jason
@@BigSirSplash you right lol. They said something about him transcending though. In the original script in 2018 he was supposed to die to a crossbow shot so who knows.
Simple. If it’s from Jason 2-4 Michael Myers wins. But if it’s any Jason from 6 and above then Jason wins. If ya wanna do Michael at his strongest vs Jason at his strongest then Jason still wins because There’s no way Michael is beating Jason X 😂
I love all the slashers. I never thought of Micheal on the level of Jason or Freddy in a fight. Freddy and Jason were immortals. In the 80's Freddy and Jason were by far the 2 most popular. People put on a Micheal mask and were called Jason. This fight isn't entertaining. Jason would punch Micheal's head off. I'm referring too Zombie Jason. Freddy's power is based on fear. In FvJ he became very powerful and by the time he was brought out of dream world he was very strong. He just couldn't manipulate the environment.
I think Michael myers would win, he’s way smarter and there feats are basically the same. Yes Jason is probably a little bit stronger but it not much of a difference to give him the win, that’s why I say that both are basically the same. But Michael is faster and smarter
Thank you, really good stuff, especially you break down comics! I think they're equal in a fight, it would be simple luck if one of em would win. They have the same strength, speed and durability.
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No offense. But you used A LOT from the comics when Jason’s are actually none cannon. But Michels are confirmed to be Cannon. Also were not counting Uber Jason because that requires outside help from Nano Machines that he doesn’t have from a time period that doesn’t exist yet. But If your just compositing everything then Jason was once a Red Lantern and Micheal was once a Black Lantern. Because why not.
Remember that Jason takes manhattan and freddy vs jason have shown that if you have entered Crystal Lake at any point or if Jason sees a reason to come after you, he will travel from state to state after your ass and will kill everyone in his way to get to you. Yeah he can be reasoned with with super sympathy but the over 200 bodies he has shows thats very rare.
Random tourist: *narrowly avoids getting killed after taking a single step around crystal lake* Jason: GET BACK HERE CAMPER! *CAMPERRRRRRR* YOU CAN’T ESCAPE ME! I’LL CHASE YOU _TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!_
Question, when the Xenomorph impregnates a host, the child can take on characteristics of said host. Allowing for the Xenomorph to become a stronger species with every new host So if a Xenomorph impregnates Jason or Michael, could that mean the Xenomorph offspring gains supernatural abilities? If said Xenomorph then molted into a Queen then how much more dangerous would the species become, potentially leading to a new line of species that are basically unkillable supernatural alien bugs
@@reverse-flash96 LOL okay bud. I'm not saying he has a 160 IQ but is smarter than Jason. Idk why you even would make such a statement when I didn't say what you think I said
Myers is way more intelligent than Voorhees. I think Voorhees would win initially but then Myers would see Voorhees weaknesses and come back with adjusted tactics. Ultimately putting Voorhees down.
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He's much more then that but yea Jason wins
@@windandcloudshadow158 look I bet you his dog siding with Jason you damn fool I don’t like yall
You’re good at this. Way better summary and analysis than 95% of channels. Good work. New sub.
I appreciate it!
The way I see Micheal is smarter but Jason def has the edge on everything else.
Jason does set some crazy traps and contraptions though, especially for a donny who grew up in the woods alone
Nah myers is taller than jason too
@@jingkoyestrada5844 Jason is consistently more taller with his actors than Michael Myers.
The only time Michael Myers has the edge in height is in the rob zombie movies
They’re more or less equal, if not Jason being taller
The original Halloween had Nick castle who is 5 10 playing Michael Myers followed by dick warlock who is 5’9
The other ones has him from 6’1 to 6’3
Jason’s shortest actor is 6’1
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The characters themselves should have canon heights, so forget the actors heights. They're irrelevant.
Also, another origin of Jason's "Death Curse" was actually a Native American blood curse placed on the land in the 1800's due to them being slaughtered innocently. It needed to take form of its wrath through another tragedy, the vessel was Jason. You can read that in the Friday The 13th comics.
And ontop of that Jason was slaughtered innocently that makes alot of sense
I’ve always been a Jason fan more than a halloween one but i’ll give micheal props for His creepy nature of his existence. If anything can contend with the void its probably a necronomic hell spawn. As for Jason’s fate, I can believe that Jason was always going to grow up to be a Goliath of a man, perhaos even a deathless one, but I think its an essential part of his story that his murderous rampages could’ve been avoided if not for human negligence and cruelty.
Micheal scary because he can’t he’s unexplainably cruel, Jason’s scary because you know he’s suffered too much to ever stop.
I read that Jason just gets stronger every time he comes back, so I think he'd end up putting Myers down most of the time even if they keep fighting for eternity.
He has no way to keep Myers down. Myers is a Universal Inevitability
You'd have to dismember both of them. My favorite Jason movie was when Jason takes Manhattan lol. When he was chasing that hot agent and they just caught him in a crossfire and then blew him up That's about the only way to kill both of them. Cuz they can pretty much heal or keep going Jason is a walking corpse. But Michael Myers has been shot stabbed caught on fire all kinds of things but he heals I think Jason would tear him apart with that machete.
I don't think that's true. Wheres the evidence
but mik gets stronger with eatch kill
@@BJETNT that was jason goes to hell
I love how Jason took liquid nitrogen shoved girl face in it then smashed face into the table.
Nd somehow his own fingers were totally fine
@@roseberzerker2989 Jason was indestructable way before that plus he had been frozen for 400 years so a little dip in the cold stuff is no issue.
@@markmac2206 I’m not sure that’s how Liquid Nitrogen works. It’s more of a chemical reaction, not just a really cold temperature.
One reason why Jason X is a fun movie.
Jason would be op as a sith.
@@cakeknight6269 yep
@@cakeknight6269 I couldn't have said it better myself. For all in tense purposes, he IS Darth Sion.
General G would smoke Jason. Kit fisto would also make short work of him.
@@rasahnjames2005 normal jason yes Jason as a sith no
Jason wouldn’t be stable enough to be a disciplined sith. It would take someone stronger than Sidius to train him, or to even just get him to stand still. He’s not going to stop. Myers is still sane enough to know when he’s out classed and would probably be the first choice. Then again he did make a point saying Jason can still be talked to the side of good. Sith Lords love to talk lol. So you’re right. We don’t need a sith Jason lol. He’d break the game😂😂
If these two fought it would literally never end. It would just keep going and going and going. FOREVER. Until either Michael gets bored or the universe ends.
@@michaelmyers5605 What are you talking about? Jason can't die either.
@@michaelmyers5605 Not really. He can only be killed with one specific weapon used by someone who is related to him. Michael cant do that
@@michaelmyers5605 Yeah. But that is not the point. Michael has no way to put Jason down. Jason has been stabbed hundreds of times. With literally no effect.
@@James-nr2hi yeah, Jason and Mikey are fated to come back regardless
@@michaelmyers5605 Thanks for stating the obvious.
That is my point.
If you actually payed attention you would know that I said neither of them can win.
The fight would never end because they both can't die.
Jason Voorhees is among the lesser evils in the slasher genre. He was developmentally disabled and tormented. I think that is why people like mashing him up with others. He is the most sympathetic of monsters aside from Frankenstein.
He can be compared to Frankenstein's monster to some degree-
He’s not as evil but he is stronger
@@michaelmyers5605 true
@@michaelmyers5605 human Jason had a similar strength level to Michael, undead Jason is much stronger so he wouldn’t need to be Uber Jason
@@michaelmyers5605 true
Jason’s speed, raw strength, experience and durability/regeneration give him the edge, both beings are constant forces and the deciding factor is who can take more blows which it’s Jason, he can also keep Michael at a distance with his expert weapon abilities such as archery and his strength which is a tier above Michaels
I think Michael's story might need a video of his own. Some of his stuff is really interesting and scary.
Damn right because Jason ain’t shit compared to Micheal
@@jalendurrah6743 don't forget MichaelMyers came first before jason so hes a copy
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If these two were Sith Lords?!
Other Sith Lords:"Oh damn! Here comes Jason and Michael!"
Jason: "Who am I going to kill today?"
Michael: "Who do I want to kill today?"
*Look at each other*
Michael:"Hmmmmm"
Jason: "Oh yeah!"
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“His eye was gone, replaced with a crayon!”
Imagine at the end of Halloween ends, the girl gets a post card from a mysterious lady saying she needs her help she heard what her and her grandmother have went through and done, and the letter is from Camp Crystal lake, and you see Jason’s hands rip out the ground. They set up a Jason vs Michael movie ! That would be dope
hopefully they wouldnt make us wait 10 years like Freddy v Jason.
I don't think it would work as well as Freddy vs Jason, because Jason is a rip-off Michael Meyers neither one talks, you would need Laura Strode vs mother Vorhees to make it watchable
Now I'm curious sense jason hates people who felt happiness will he kill a depressed person or will he be the next victim from Jason's wrath?
That could be illustrated by a rampage where he spares an incel and kills a bunch of chads.
Well freddy wasn't the most jolly person and he wasn't really fond of him lol
@@Hughjasswipe Freddy may not have known love, but he did know a twisted form of affection. He had to at least be somewhat charming to pull off the criminal acts he did.
@@Hughjasswipe I'm pretty sure Jason also Hates all form of bullies as well because was bullied himself.
If that's the Case that kinda includes Freddy i think
he killed Shelly. that dude was so down on life he defines depression.
This was a great deconstruction of each character and made it a very entertaining video. I didn't realize the extent of how OP both these horror icons are. Great video! Subbed!
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This was a great matchup, yeah I wouldn't be able to choose whichever one to win a straight up fight but the idea and concepts of both are fascinating Good vid! 👀👍
I'm happy you went over their origins. I always wondered what was up with Michael and how Jason came back fully grown.
Even though Jason Voorhees would likely win more times it was still good to know new informations about Michael Myers and what he is capable of.
Jason Looses bad agent Comics Michal
I lover your videos because you can tell you take the lore of characters very seriously. I respect that. I never knew any of this shit about either character.
Thx man. Yeah i never knew the lore was that deep until i read it lol
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Just want to throw in my two cents. If Freddy can make Jason flinch because of flashbacks and water and mother then he has a great moment of weakness. Mr Michael Myers doesn't stop
Yeah, but that was a weakness that I was only shown once and Jason has never flinched at water ever again.
Freddy Vs Jason is 100% NOT canon.
It was made for Fan service alone.
Face it, Jason is the equivilent of Heavy Metal, while Michael is the equivalent of Justin Bieber.
Even if I was going to give that the benefit of the doubt, Jason Voorhees is not going to have that susceptibility against a dude who just throws hands. Jason is highly resistant to any hax that Michael Myers has. Jason is stronger, faster, more resilient, more durable, has a higher pain tolerance (as wild as that is). Not to mention, Jason canonically gets more powerful with each ressurection.
They wouldn't fight. They would stop and stare at each other for a few moments, each assessing the other. After a while, they exchange weapons, Jason taking Michael's chef's knife, Michael taking Jason's machete. They then walk past each other, off on their respective merry way, searching for their next kill. Both realising they've met a kindred spirit, making their day a little brighter!
Each year thereafter, they send each other a Christmas present..............................probably a human heart.
Probably not considering Micheal is inherently Evil and Jason isn't. I doubt they'd get along. XD
@@kaorimiyazono9226 Opposites attract.
Great video! i would love a in depth video on Myers narrative/history. i thought your retelling of the story of myers was fantastic.
Mike Myers is like Final Destination in reverse. Instead of death goes out of her way to keep him alive instead of kill him.
Think you can do a video on the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers? He's such a cool character and I'm curious if there's more to him than just the movies
Do video about Pinhead from Hellraiser
Who would he fight?
Michael's intelligence would play a significant part because he would be relentless. Yes, Jason would shrug of any kind of attack and keep coming but Michael would be the type if he can't take Jason out the first time, he would look for new attacks. No matter the method, Myers would continue to try and find and exploit some weakness of Jason. He won't stop until the job is done.
Exactly i've been saying this for years even freddy almost put jason down with a lil strategy and going on the offensive
Agreed but the only way in my mind Mike would be able to get the advantage would be drowning Jason
@@chrisschuler2278 he needed help to beat a mortal freddy Krueger
@@chrisschuler2278 and Jason would definitely fight back
This is underplaying Jasons intellect, sure freddy was able to out play him in the dream realm where he could basically pull off any number of random shit, and the military did pull off a surprise attack, but Jason knows the game well, he can ambush and outmaneuver. And micheals been caught with his pants down before too.
I like to think Jason was an innocent, and it's always been my headcanon since Jason Goes To Hell that yeah, it was Pamela using the Necronomicon to resurrect him.
I think that twisted something in him spiritually when he was brought back. There's still a SMALL part of good there I think, based the How I Spent My Summer Vacation comic and he is the lesser of two evils when compared to Freddy at least.
And yeah I think there's definitely a Lovecraftian vibe with he and the Friday the 13th series. Lovecraft did do a lot of big cosmic gods and aliens, but I also seem to remember at least one story that just had a crazy guy with an axe. There's levels.
I personally think Pamela was driven crazy by the ritual that raised Jason from the dead, but it was Jason's voice that spoke to her. It was the spirit of Jason that seems to hover around, like what Renny saw in Part 8 or what attacked Alice in the lake at the end of the first movie.
I'm not very familiar with the comic book lore of Jason but in the movies it was witnessing his mother's Decapitation that really set him off.
The only way this would be "fair" is if you use human Jason. Zombie Jason and Uber Jason (both from movies and comics) would kill pretty much every version of Michael fairly effortlessly. But yes, no matter what, both of them will always come back. Jason just takes victory more often than not
@@michaelmyers5605 yes he would please just stop 😐
@@michaelmyers5605 yep he would
@@michaelmyers5605 yep
Yes he would
I never believed Mike Murda had enough source material to be in a vs session with J Dawg lol
Jason wins quite easily
Very easily
Jason Vorhees for the win
I like your enthusiasm
Jason stumps
@@michaelmyers5605 Oh there you go you evil mother.....
@@michaelmyers5605 Oh no you don't I'm going to run from you because you are....
Hell yeah!!!
Uber Jason is overpowered. The bullets that blew the already sturdy undead Jason to bits did absolutely nothing against Uber.
Didn't they hit him with missiles and shit?
@@theawesomeduo54 Idk. All I know is that it took atmospheric reentry so 🤷♂️
My money is on Jason
Both of them would fit well in Warhammer 40k. They'll get sucked into chaos immediately!😈😈👀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You failed to mention Micheal being in a coma for 10 years. How about that time he couldn't do shit for a whole year and some old fisherman took care of him for a year. Literally had to feed him . Micheals genius is also overated.loomis has also.dupped Myers before so has his sister . Let not forgetthat one time Micheal fucking cried while attempting to kill his niece. It's great you pull more lore into both characters but including their comics but we can't ignore the movies, Micheal has to many disadvantages going up against Jason. He isn't stronger, more durable I'd argue Jason has more supernatural hax then Micheal. Michael has never endured and took damage like Jason. Jason ever recovers from gunshots faster then Micheal. Michael has never been tested like Jason. He only prays on weak ass ppl who are afraid of him. Jason would not and does not fear shit. I respect Mike but he cannot measure to Jason
Great video. I'd say Myers would win and by win I mean that thing when they think Jason is dead but isn't actually dead
I say long as you stay away from Haddonfield and long as you stay away from Crystal Lake neither one of them are a threat to us😅😂
08:25 congrats dude got me scared for a moment
My brain instantly thought he got you
More of these please!
14:28 Not true actually. In All 3 of his time lines, Micheal has never officially died even once. Also It’s confirmed (In the comics) that when he dies, he can just possess a random person near him and take over there body. Kind of like Jason, except his Is Instant and doesn’t require a gremlin monster thing to crawl down Into your thought.
I had a blast researching this!!!
What horror characters deserve more shine??
The creeper or pinhead.
the djinn from wishmaster
@@CED-ue6ww djinn is a goon lol
Pinhead is a real interesting one
Where did u find the Michael Myers comics? I only saw the first movie tbh
This is the best video on this matchup that I’ve seen. Good job 👏🏼
Michael Myers vs Human Jason = Michael Myers
Michael Myers vs Zombie Jason = Jason
Not true. Michael Myers became A literal human curse that can’t die and Is also super human. His Comics are Cannon and so are Jason’s . Micheal could actually win. If Jason’s comics weren’t canon. That Really F***KS Micheal Over
Let the flame war begin.
@@Anime_Stand_5 Oh ffs, again watch the Halloween 4-6 and you will see Myers hasn’t done any feats proving he can actually take out Deadite Jason at all. Deadite Jason overall has stronger feats then any Myers.
My buddy always prefers Jason and I always prefer Michael. And we always go back and forth only using the movies and it gets me every time but now I'm going to pull out some mine hacks on him. From the comics bro thank you for this LOL. There also is some books that give Credence to what you're saying when it comes to Jason being friendly to people who understand him because there is a book where this guy goes to hell and he meets Jason. And they have like a spiritual bonding moment and Jason becomes like his friend.
I have something exactly like that with my buddy except it’s with Darkseid and Thanos😂
@@Pubhooligan74 mines is hulk vs Superman , my friend always uses Films for Superman , and I always use comics hulk
Meyers beat Jason. Why? Meyers from the get go has all of his powers. So that means he's able to beat sack cloth Jason easy. Jason was a wimp, taken out by a couple using a ax. Then hockey mask Jason is a lil stronger but still not able to take down meyers, and was taken out again by hanging and a machete. Then you have fake Jason who is a kid dressed as him. Then you have Feldman Jason who got his ass whoop by Cory Feldman. Again all of these version meyers would of slaughter Jason. Not til zombie Jason does he have a chance and its a fair fight. But he's still stupid, and weak to drowning. Then you have Uber Jason which is his strongest version only due to the nano tech which gives him super healing. Meyers can't beat that, but then Jason in space is stupid. Meyers don't need to got to space to be relevant. Then you have remake jason/meyers. Jason is strong but not super human. He's fast, able to make traps and is like a hunter. While meyers is a giant, hulk like. Not as smart but def stronger then Jason. This would depend on location who win a fight. But mostly meyers would take it because he will win a straight fight while Jason would need a place that is his turf to win.
But he won’t see Michael as a friend lol he’d wanna rip his head off
@@samorozco2002 And fanboyism at it's best
For Me - Michael Myers is a far better character (in my opinion Jason is somewhat derivative of him) - also, Jason is a bit more of a 'Slasher' where Michael has a more 'Horror' aspect (which I prefer) - and that Shatner Mask is so iconic and works so well even though it came about as a bit of a last minute 'we need a mask kind of thing' - 'see what you can find in the costume shop' :)
I mean, true. The creators DID say that they were just ripping off Halloween when making F13.
Eh I can’t say I agree. I find Jasons story of retribution for his childhood rife with abuse compelling him beyond death considerably more compelling than micheal being evil for evils sake. Not that irredeemable villains can’t be interesting but I honestly don’t get why so much explanations need to go into the fact he just liked killing people. Micheals mask and look is admittedly iconic but also pretty boring, Jason switches things up a lot more snd while their not all the best looks It can be really appreciated on a special effects stand point.
Michael Myers has always been my favorite for some reason of all horror characters. I was confused when they made Freddy vs Jason. Even thoufh at the end of Jason goes to hell it teased it when the Krueger hand grabbed his mask. But I always thought Jason vs Michael Myers was the more intriguing battle. Shame we cant see this play out on the big screen or maybe its a goos thing we dont. Freddy vs Jason was kinda a let down so i wouldnt want them to make a terrible movie about these 2. Maybe someone will come along and give this the respect it deserves
Who abilities would you guys rather have ? Without the limitations they have. Such as needing to kill and needing revenge. I choose jason
Probably jason. Hes less worrisome lol
@@BigSirSplash great choice‼‼
Jason is the more badass and brutal killer here, but I’ll be honest here.
Michael is so much more terrifying.
The difference, you might be able to escape Meyers, as his sister discovered, if you play your cards right, but there's no escaping Jason. He will teleport to your desitnation, (the opening scene to F13 part 2) wherever that may be.
Yeah, my money is on Jason. Plus, Jason's whole persona is way more Metal than Michael's.
Michael's intelligence honestly puts him in an overall different tier.
Jason literally has every edge. This has never been a competition, except if you're talking part 2-4 Jason. Then it would be a good fight.
Well given his evidence, it's clearly not that simple.
I don't count comic book crap. Both these characters were created in films, not comics. As for the characters. I feel as those their are many forms of Jason. As the movies went on he just got stronger and more zombie like. So sack cloth Jason is pretty weak. He was nearly killed by a regular couple and a sharp edge weapon. Then you have hockey mask version of Jason. He was a lil bit stronger but still died pretty easily. Then you have fake Jason which is just a human that was mentally challenged. Then you got zombie Jason, and this is where you see a big power boost. At this point is where it would be a close fight on who would win between meyers and Jason. Both have super human strength, stealth, and able to endure a lot of damage. The next Jason form is Uber Jason, which is his most powerful form. So he has his healing factor upgraded with the nano tech. This is the only form that meyers can't beat. Then you have remake Jason and meyers. Jason is strong, but not super human. He's more of a hunter and he's able to think, and set traps while meyers is just a giant and a badass. Hes way stronger then Jason but not as smart. Hes more brute like, so hard to say who would win. It would depend on location.
@@samorozco2002 Undead Jason isn't a zombie, he's a revenant.
You are always right, Rick
@@usnightmare7400 It really is.
Amazing video
How's Harpuia, Leviathan, and Phantom? 💪🏾
What if they were sith? What saber forms would they use? What force abilities would they have?
Well, Jason would clearly be more like a Malak or a Malgus: this is to say, he'd be a brute, tanking most damage and using overwhelming strength in their combat. Likely using sabers with blades designed for power blows and dealing as much damage as possible.
Michael on the other hand might be more like a Vitiate or Sidious. Likely using a saber like Maul with crystals that have similar effects to Kylo's blade. Just to ensure maximum pain and damage.
These two are so off the walls they would scare the other Sith Lords.
Jason would definitely be using form 7
@@revan1lord they would both use form 7 or form 5
A much more efficient duo of darth sions. Their masks would probably be considered sith artifacts and be tained with the darkside.
Would love to see you breakdown Ash or the Necronomican in a video!
Love your vids btw keep up the amazing work your an amazing content creator!
I'm so glade you did this because I always wanted to see this battle from a professional in vs battles because I Know that Jason.....
Be the fuck quite got dann lie shut hell
I also like how the fat kid's name changes from Wade to Adrian....I mean maybe his name was Adrian Wade, but I don't think they ever mention that.
I like how Loomis also brings up the black kid Blair one time....and he never appears again.
I like your video as well as horror discussions in general. Here’s how this would go down. If you’re talking Jason before part 6, then Michael wins. Almost no contest. After Jason’s first true resurrection in part 6, Jason wins. Uber Jason is just pretty much overkill. The real stats that count here are durability and final girl kill count. On the one hand, Jason has never killed any of his final girls. Thus, he has been defeated several times. He was first truly killed... by a little kid. Not a special kid. Not a kid with supernatural powers. Tommy was just some kid. If a little boy can take Jason out then it wouldn’t be hard for Michael to take Jason out considering that Jason is not much of a strategist. After being resurrected though, revenant/undead Jason wins. Michael has not survived half of the things Jason has. He’s never been blown up. He’s never survived Re-entry into the earths atmosphere WITHOUT A SPACE SHIP!! As a matter of fact, Michael has displayed several times that if his life is in immediate danger, he will run away, or switch places with a EMS worker or whatever. Jason will keep coming regardless. The most damage I’ve seen Michael take was being set on fire at the end of Halloween 2. After that, he was in a coma for 10 years. Yes, he survived it, but once again, in a 10 year coma. Also, his body was left in tact, so there’s no evidence that he would survive something like a decapitation or dismemberment. Also, Jason has been proven to kill for simple pleasure as opposed to displaying empathy of any kind. As a matter of fact, the only people Jason has shown mercy to has been children. I suppose Michael does have the edge there as he definitely will kill children along with anything else that crosses his path.... if he feels like it.
Bottom line. Undead Jason would simply tear Michael limb from limb until Michael simply stops moving.
I don’t like this guy he said Jason would beat Micheal which is a got damn lie
Myers went into a coma while Jason would've just straight up died lol. Myers has taken practically everything Jason has but has actually survived. Saying that there's no evidence that Michael would survive something like decapitation or dismemberment is silly because Jason doesn't even survive that. He suffered such things and died from it (then came back with the help of plot), but he's never actually survived that stuff.
But what about in the 2018 halloween movie when michael saw a baby in a room by itself and he walked away to not kill it? It seems like he has a line that he wouldnt cross.
You're actually counting the Blumhose Halloween films?
Blumhouse is the worst thing to happen to Horror, so how anyone can take them seriously is beyond me.
You know who's scares the hell outta me is Jason Voorhees...people in the 70s and 80s was scared to go to the movies to watch jason
I'm team Jason Voorhees no body gonna mess with him ... Michael dont got an chance ... no matter how emotionless he is ...
Lol at jason going back to manipulate his mom to do what she did.
Jason is Eren confirmed.
If these two happen to cross paths and fought, they'd have a beer together afterwards.
Human Jason would lose, every other Jason would win. But yeah this is probably the most accurate video ever. Great stuff man!!
got a request for 2 verses match ups
1. Symbiote Spider-Man vs Carnage
2. Tigra vs Cheeta
Jason is not evil, he’s just misunderstood.
Michael? Literally the embodiment of evil itself. No mercy will ever be shown.
I mean the comics say Jason was evil.
@@BigSirSplash At least Jason isn’t heartless.
@@michaelmyers5605 Good point. However, Halloween 5 is non-canon now.
I like them both but Jason is my dude. Ultimate hunter and excellent stealth skills.
Jason experienced much love from Pamela, dog. There were plenty of people he didn't kill in part 8
All I'm saying is that in Halloween 2 ( I think ) the scene where the hospital hallway got lit on fire michael was meant to die but they wanted to make more films because the first one was successful.
I hope they make a movie but they team up at the end
We have never seen Michael get dismembered in any capacity… in a fight with Jason it is happening. He did tear off Freddy’s limbs in both the real world and dream world. Human Jason’s death would likely have the same effect on Michael… skull cleaved in half with a machete… and jason came back from that as an actual revenant… a revenant does not go back to being a corpse till it’s goals are accomplished. Kinda like the crow.
See i wish they made a movie about Jason vs Michael instead of Freddy, peoples arguments was that they don't talk to it wouldn't make sense but id still prefer it, like the plot could be dr lomus or the government or whoever somehow trick's Michael into going into camp crystal lake and he will inevitable fight Jason
both of them are immortal in a way so the fight would last a very long time
I’d like to become a member, but I’ve gotten kicked from your discord without reason it seems? Idk why
We don't kick people without valid reasoning and contemplation from there, you must've done something stupid.
@@LetQCook Ask YFV to scale Swamp Chair and Mugger.
Also how do you think the Batman who laughs would fare in marvel?
@@colonistinternetgangster8960 he'd probably just be a literal Chaos King 2.0
Likely my old discord.
@@BigSirSplash oof
The new Halloween has some possibly good Michael scaling 👀
Hes going to beat up randoms then lose to an 80yr old as usual
@@BigSirSplash you right lol. They said something about him transcending though. In the original script in 2018 he was supposed to die to a crossbow shot so who knows.
Finally some explanation the movies really suck at it the comics are wayyy better for both characters and should be cannon imo
What if xenomorphs were in star wars.
Simple. If it’s from Jason 2-4 Michael Myers wins. But if it’s any Jason from 6 and above then Jason wins. If ya wanna do Michael at his strongest vs Jason at his strongest then Jason still wins because There’s no way Michael is beating Jason X 😂
@@michaelmyers5605 we can tell 💀
Jason loses still from part 6 and beyond
Brought back with the Necronomicon..
So Jason is host to a Kandarian Demon?
A super Deadite?
I love all the slashers. I never thought of Micheal on the level of Jason or Freddy in a fight. Freddy and Jason were immortals. In the 80's Freddy and Jason were by far the 2 most popular. People put on a Micheal mask and were called Jason.
This fight isn't entertaining. Jason would punch Micheal's head off. I'm referring too Zombie Jason.
Freddy's power is based on fear.
In FvJ he became very powerful and by the time he was brought out of dream world he was very strong. He just couldn't manipulate the environment.
This made me subscribe
My man!
I think Michael myers would win, he’s way smarter and there feats are basically the same. Yes Jason is probably a little bit stronger but it not much of a difference to give him the win, that’s why I say that both are basically the same. But Michael is faster and smarter
Thank you, really good stuff, especially you break down comics! I think they're equal in a fight, it would be simple luck if one of em would win. They have the same strength, speed and durability.
Just subbed creators like you should have alot of subs :)
Michael Myers is the Godfather of Supernatural Slashers. Jason died, but Michael never has. Jason is stronger, Michael is Evil.
Yeah being evil literally mean nothing and Micheal has died before rob zombie remake and Halloween 3 comic
I think it depends on WHICH Michael you refer too. Don’t forget that RZ Michael single handedly flipped a car with 2 people in it
@@savagemarksman2108 same with comic Jason
@@hulkbelowall9532 my point. There’s too many variants.
Aw yeah battle of the silent slashers who use brute force to kill there victims my afternoon is made !
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Living Jason loses but zombie Jason beats the dog shit out of Michael
he wouldn’t tho? how come jason struggled against freddy? lmao
@@Brodie0298 because Freddy is miles fucking faster lmao don't act like he wasn't darting around Jason c'mon lol he'd do the same shit to Michael.
@@d.r.8320 no he wouldn't lmao
@@handzofstone1152 lol why wouldn't he because Myers is "pure evil" lmao Freddy dances on Myers All day.
Nice vid bur this question is already been answered and people don’t mind others opinion anymore
No offense. But you used A LOT from the comics when Jason’s are actually none cannon. But Michels are confirmed to be Cannon. Also were not counting Uber Jason because that requires outside help from Nano Machines that he doesn’t have from a time period that doesn’t exist yet. But If your just compositing everything then Jason was once a Red Lantern and Micheal was once a Black Lantern. Because why not.
I would love to see a Friday the 13th reboot that uses the comics as some of the source material
Fantastic video, man!
More vs battles like this ✊🏾🔥
Dude this was very informative
Remember that Jason takes manhattan and freddy vs jason have shown that if you have entered Crystal Lake at any point or if Jason sees a reason to come after you, he will travel from state to state after your ass and will kill everyone in his way to get to you. Yeah he can be reasoned with with super sympathy but the over 200 bodies he has shows thats very rare.
Random tourist: *narrowly avoids getting killed after taking a single step around crystal lake*
Jason: GET BACK HERE CAMPER! *CAMPERRRRRRR* YOU CAN’T ESCAPE ME! I’LL CHASE YOU _TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!_
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Spiderman TAS reference. Noice
Question, when the Xenomorph impregnates a host, the child can take on characteristics of said host. Allowing for the Xenomorph to become a stronger species with every new host
So if a Xenomorph impregnates Jason or Michael, could that mean the Xenomorph offspring gains supernatural abilities?
If said Xenomorph then molted into a Queen then how much more dangerous would the species become, potentially leading to a new line of species that are basically unkillable supernatural alien bugs
They probably wouldn’t gain their immortality but would be strong
There are some crossovers where xenomorphs inherent the supernatural traits of their hosts like mortal kombat and this one vampire comic I think?
Do more of these please!! ❤️
Heavily depends on which versions you use. Part 6-7 zombie Jason seems unkillable but Michael is definitely smarter
Michael isn’t that smart
@@reverse-flash96 LOL okay bud. I'm not saying he has a 160 IQ but is smarter than Jason. Idk why you even would make such a statement when I didn't say what you think I said
SCP-The thing the scrape the sky versus KLUH O.P. version!Who'll win that one???@George Brown 3
Myers is way more intelligent than Voorhees. I think Voorhees would win initially but then Myers would see Voorhees weaknesses and come back with adjusted tactics. Ultimately putting Voorhees down.