The "Men in Skirts" Phenomenon
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Considering how many times we have seen the likes of Jimin from BTS as well as Brad Pitt, Harry Styles, and Bad Bunny wearing skirts, it’s time to address how men go about styling women’s clothing into their professional wardrobes. Men’s fashion has moved so far away from Nike Air Force 1’s and sport coats, as seen very clearly from the heavy adoption and casual-ization of the Opium aesthetic in runway shows and the celebrities who wear it at fashion week and beyond. We talk about all that along with Tom Ford’s retirement, where the place of upcycling and recycling is in modern day fashion design, how to spot the most brilliant new fashion designers, and topics related to menswear more broadly today.
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The problem is being stuck in the mindset of "masculine" or "feminine". Clothes are just different ways to arrange fabric.
First sentence is correct. Second sentence is wrong.
@@kewaso_5313 First sentence is correct. Second sentence is wrong.
Both sentences are wrong.
@@caseyjc5 do you enjoy flaunting your ignorance? 🙂
I think I disagree with you because masculinity and femininity are so baked into fashion as an art form that it’s nearly impossible not to associate certain pieces of clothing with gender. Fashion is, relatively speaking, a much newer art form than music or visual art, and so the foundations of fashion are still extremely prevalent. These foundations are gendered, and so to a great extent it’s asinine to create clothing, let alone clothing that people will buy, without considering gender roles and the articles of clothing associated with them.
It's not the femininity that makes you more fashionable as a man. It's the disregard for the gender binary that gives you permission to broaden your horizons and find what you truly enjoy.
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Well said!
Is like if you like those pants, buy them. "Oh, but they are from the girls section?", so what? If they have them in a size that fits you, wear them. I constantly buy from the men’s section, specially jackets, since they are way more practical (and always have pockets). I don’t dress "masculine" clothes are clothes. If I like something I don’t care if it’s not "for me", I make it for me. Like the jackets for example, I sew and embroider as a hobby, that tactical ugly jacket that I buy for functionality purposes, I turn into a blooming flower by embroidering it. I make it my own.
I am a "manly" man. I am a carpenter by trade, tall, I rock a full beard. That said, I am really into my skin routine, love painting my nails and care more for my hair than most women I know. I even wore skirts in the past.
It annoyes me when these are labled as my "feminine" traits. Those are just things I enjoy - gender has nothing to do with it. Even as a Cis-Male i think we might be better off abolishing gender...
I know a lot of carpenters that paint their nails - so they can clearly see the ends of their fingers when using the table saw...
@@piccalillipit9211 never thought of it that way, but i guess thats a great side effect to looking fabulous. Also I still have all my fingers, so theres that
@@ElDaumo Yeah most Ive seen use black. I bought an 18" 3 phase sliding pannel saw / table saw years ago, it scared me so much I never used it LOL
I still personally think though that people should be able to find what reflects their internal reality, and makes them comfortable, externally. If a man want to identify as a man and be able to look like what he feels are masculine traits, I don't think that's a wrong or bad thing.
the thing is a LOT of gay men are ultra-masculine in their looks, people just need to realize that appearence does not say anything about someones sexuality but its just an easy way to make them feel superior to you, people are just mad close-minded, I mean come on, its just a piece of fabric.
Opium is Playboi Carti's record label, so the term is referring to people that dress in a way that seems similar in attitude to him and his label's roster. This is mostly comprised of Rick Owens, Chrome Hearts, and Balenciaga, of which they select emo or satanic pieces. Opium is partially why femininity in menswear has trended, and I think a more in-depth analysis of rap music's current moment would be important to understand our current trend cycle. Playboi's signature "baby voice", beats becoming more and more akin to hyperpop, and feminized fashion seem to signal that masculine rap and fashion are pilfering queer tactics of disidentification to create a new sound. I think this all started when Kanye tapped Demna for Yeezy season 1 in 2015, which was around when Opium artists were becoming mainstream. To quote Lil Uzi Vert's "GLOCK IN MY PURSE":
If it had two straps (what?)
You would call it backpack (facts)
But it got one strap (phew)
And it's holdin' the mags (phew)
I’m so glad someone cleared this up a thought this was a new “heroin sheek” aesthetic 😭
This best description of opium I’ve heard is if F1lthy beats were an aesthetic😂
No it's just a different way of saying Heroin Chic.... That's some mental gymnastics to go to Playboy Carti
@@iviivi6179it's not, your right iviivi
@@topcatcoast2coast579 whatever u want to believe 😂
From a historical standpoint a lot of menswear would be considered extremely "camp" today. Lots of tights, dresses and heels.
It is with the Enlightenment around 1780-1800 that men's fashion really changed to be unadorned and muted.
This to distinguish "rational" men from "emotional" women.
It has stuck in Western culture ever since, although the 1970s almost broke the trend.
So that's why I feel like a prince wearing red pantyhose?
The Enlightenment? I thought it was from Protestantism.
I'm a bespoke tailor. I began my studies in fine art, learning to sketch figures from live models. That experience informs my ability to tailor for a multitude of physiques, understanding the anatomy of the body. I wish more young designers would take the time to build the foundational information necessary to become not just good, but great designers. I know the trend is to have someone else worry about all that, and just come out at the end of the runway show for the applause. This reply is in response to someone's query as to whether knowing how to sketch is necessary.
the "come to brazil 💕" got me. brazilians are so real for that.
They fr are. Everyone thinks it’s a joke but Brazil will LET YOU KNOW they like your work. It’s the best, tbh
Thanks for impacting all of us, I’m not a student but a luxury store manager in London and man, couldn’t relate more to your story about Tom Ford boutique. I constantly share your content with my team in store and brought you with me in all the brands I worked, THANK YOU BLISS ❤🎉
Ayyyy thanks so much! Those personal recommendations are super important, I truly appreciate it!
Wow, you work in an exciting retail market. Do you mind if I ask what store you manage?
I’ve been saying this for years, but i think for men to really start wearing skirts culturally we need skirts that are made for men, present in a traditionally masculine way. Skirts right now are made for women, for cis womens bodies. When male tastemakers wear skirts right now it feels like more of a statement than a good outfit. I’m a cishet guy who wears skirts every once in a while and it felt weird at first mostly because when something poofs out at the bottom or has a much smaller waist than hips or is even just too short it legitimately fits awkwardly on a masculine frame. It took me a while to find skirts that were aesthetically comfortable for me because many of them made my body look feminine in an uncomfortable way (i have longer hair and a somewhat feminine face but otherwise present pretty masculine, but i get mistaken for a girl or assumed to be nb all the time and it’s not something i like. It’s just want to be who i am and look how i look.) we need skirts that are visibly for dudes from start to finish, not a subversion of feminine skirts.
If youre interested, search up sarong/sarung, indonesians wears skirts on their tradition wears or just for casual daily life. Men and women both wear it the same way but there is patterns/colors leans to masculine ppl that wears it and some more leans to feminine ppl that wears it, all of them are very colorful.
It was the same with tuxedo outfits and pants, women can’t just buy an outfit made for men because it doesn’t look good. I personally think that the best skirts for men would be svottish kilts or the long ones that mostly arab people wear.
You mean kilts?
@@Mukawakadoodoo yes, but kilts aren't the skirts men are wearing rn nor are companies really making good kilts nor are they a shape that i really like personally. also i'd love to have the option of a skirt made for me that isn't plaid. or even just more than one option. skirts for women are as varied as pants but we get one kind?
@@rugrugrugrug yeah, fair point. I wonder if there’s already small businesses addressing this issue. Certainly won’t see stuff like that in Macy’s or saks soon, that’s for sure
Oh my goodness I'm actually early to a Foster video. Thank you for all the content I love binge watching and learning :)
Ayyyy I appreciate it! 💫💫
I would be very interested to see a full video on skirts in menswear. Men around the North Atlantic stopped wearing them several centuries ago - a little long for a fashion trend. It is a big deal that we are seeing that begin to falter. Nothing wrong with this video but I would be interested in your analysis of the reemergence of men wearing skirts.
I wonder if it has to do with the prevalence of horses as a means of transportation. The cultures I can think of that had a strong culture of non-bifurcated garments for men were also ones where fashionable men weren't spending a lot of time on horseback. Having reinforcement like that keeping the trend in place over such a long period of time might explain why the trend is so enduring even after people stopped riding horses.
thing is, skirts are and still a masculine item in men's fashion. Its just depends on the style. Some guys look extra badass in skirts. Most traditional wear around the world uses skits for men.
Best example: Yohji
women's fashion history is so inspired by men's fashion why shouldn't men's fashion be more influenced by women's
Because it’s gay to wear women’s clothes?
Fashion is masculine. Men in the past 200 years have been nuetured.
Men have ALWAYS dressed with bright colors, Big outfits and makeup. In almost the entire animal kingdom the male is colored and the female drab.
Makeup was worn and invented by men, for men.
Since the 1800s Men have been forced into wearing suits as conformity. That was the downfall. Now Men just wear black and grey, no makeup, no pizzaz.
Masculinity is exploration of one's self in an outward manner. Femininity is inward exploration of self. A person learns to be both masculine and feminine through life. - Daimon Halpin -
Men really stopped wearing a lot of styles with the Enlightenment era 1780-1800, when men were supposed to dress "rational" as opposed to women's "emotional" dress.
There is a lot to like about what Enlightenment has brought us, but the clothing is horrible
I can wholeheartedly say, you are my biggest fashion influence outside of designers and their work. Fashion people tend to gatekeep any sort of knowledge to only benefit them and them only. They don’t want you to ‘get ahead’ of them because that definitely means THEY will miss out on their chances as you stole them. Thank you Bliss!
Oh and I guess we share that same appreciation for Margiela pieces and we want to see them evolve with our personal wear. I have a Margiela wallet that I use, even for travel. I love to see the way it scratches and becomes more mine. We went to Paris with my gf and I left the wallet with her - in her MM6 Japanese tote btw! And due to it having one big compartmert, it got scratched up by the house keys and I wasn’t mad, thought of it as a fun story. But she was so apologetic and felt terrible haha. Went to the Margiela store and I asked the sales girl if she knew of any way to fix it and she gave me suggestions but told me to embrace it, and so I do!
As someone who is learning to be a fashion historian. I always look into men's fashion from the past. And Men originally were traditional dresses, makeup wigs, and high heels and the color pink. For an example, look at the painting of Hyacinthe's Rigaud's famous portrait of Louis XIV, he was the most powerful and emulated men in Europe. Who was seen at the peak of masculinity at the time is painted, wearing a curly wig, silk stockings with lace, and high heels with little bows on them. So men are wearing feminine clothes now isn't really a new thing. It's a thing from the past
I absolutely love deconstructivism and the whole "unfinished" stuff. Is anything ever really finished? We always want to do more right? No matter how much we achieve there is always that drive to keep going if the work is fufilling. Having an art piece appear to be incomplete is a beautiful statement to me because it plays with our perceptions of how the world works and is saying "I decide when it's enough".
I got sent to the principal's office for telling my teacher something along those lines in about fourth grade.
Just found this channel and I love it. Every video I've watched has touched on artistic themes and societal issues that are immediate and interesting to think about. I've never been into fashion but this channel is very approachable and makes me much more conscious of fashion, which is heavily impacting my drawing practices.
That means a lot to me, I’m glad it’s been useful for you 🦾
As you continue to work thru new videos, I’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments, I really do read all of them 💫💫
Appreciate your objectivity on these things man. Knowing your style that fits your silhouette is key to getting them fits off
I wish we'd get past men in skirts being shocking, like a normal person isnt going to harrass a woman for wearing pants.
You know, I found this channel and subscribed a while back, and the Algorithm finally decided to throw you at me again, and I'm sad I haven't been watching this entire time. I just wan to say, you're doing good work, not only explaining the fashion industry, but presenting _fashion_ in a way that is easily understandable. To an outsider, this all can seem really weird, but there is purpose and thought behind it all, and you do a great job communicating that, a lot better than I can, that's for sure.
I worked at Bufflao exchange (buy,sell, trade & consignment store) in ny and i would play your videos for our morning huddles. so it’s funny how you bring up the point of this being digestible content for people to just know what was happening at any given time period
You’ve been my favorite fashion CZcams for a while now, you’re real af
always good to see bliss upload
Bliss Foster thank you for sharing your Love and enthusiasm for Fashion with us all in this great channel of yours! Wanted to mention so the person who asked about Illustrating and fashion design has it clear. More important than doing a Fashion Illustration it is key to learn how to draw FLATS. FLATS are basic drawings that resemble the clothes as if they were laying flat on the floor. When I was in Fashion School a classmate of mine who was Fashion Design Major(but also did wonderful Fashion Illustrations) had the chance to meet Isaac Mizrahi and showed him his portfolio at the time and the very first thing Mizrahi pointed out to my classmate was if you are going to be a designer you got to design with collections in mind and not so much a beautiful illustration.
I appreciate that you always aim at bringing a balanced perspective
So glad you explained the elbow pop 😂 great video as always ❤
Hah, I'm a professor of fashionology and a fashion enthusiast, so, your channel is perfect for my needs and desires LOL. Thank you!
Welcome in! If I could recommend your next video, the reeeally good ones are the ones where we can spend a lot of time on a single runway show. If you have time, check out
Prada: Fascism and Fashion
Issey Miyake isn’t Dead: He’s Immortal
and
Rick Owens and Immortality: Spring 2023
Again, welcome in! I’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments as you check out more videos 💫💫
You started youtube filming on an Iphone 10 but with a 10X charisma :) Bliss, your work is everything. Thank you to mama and papa Bliss!
Bliss you bless us so much! ❤
I would like to thank you for your work, as a fashion journalist student... Big impact for me, I love what you're doing!
your hair looks great today (great video as always !)
*TOM FORD* the most expensive fashion item I have ever bought were a pair of Tom Ford limited edition sunglasses - regular glasses with the flip down tints and they looked SO COOL
They were about €1,500 and they were useless - the two lenses reflected off each other in an infinity mirror effect which made them psychotically dangerous for driving and even walking could be dangerous LOL. I gave them to my GF's sister who had the flip-down tints removed and prescription lenses put in - they suited her.
as always super solid advice here, for people who want to create anything not only clothes. i would second the need to be able to communicate a creative idea to other people. Unless your are making on thing once, you’ll need to tell someone else about it and that Communication is an active creativity in an of itself. Both Tim, Burton and James Cameron were able to draw, This they were able to visually show what it was they were after other people in a way that was very clear. It was less about them being able to create storyboards and more about their ability to communicate something They were after the other people; Do you need to illustrate? no, but you do need to be able to tell other people what it is you after
My favorite thing to do lately. Is just come back on every first week of a Bliss video upload and see how many times the thumbnail changes, day after day
Dani usually preps 3 thumbs and we swap things out every 36 hours or so to see if it makes a difference. But there’s never more than 4 thumbs total 💫💫
I've only ever been peripheral to fashion as culture and industry but I like expressing myself with cool clothes that speak to me on a personal level (even thought they would probably be considered unfashionable by many.) That being said, I'm glad that the youtube algorithm recommended this channel. You're great at presenting information in an interesting, well-informed and human way. I'm excited to dig further into this.
Welcome in! If I could recommend your next video, the reeeally good ones are the ones where we can spend a lot of time on a single runway show. If you have time, check out
Prada: Fascism and Fashion
Issey Miyake isn’t Dead: He’s Immortal
and
Rick Owens and Immortality: Spring 2023
Again, welcome in! I’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments as you check out more videos 💫💫
Thanks for the warm welcome as well as the recommendations! I just watched the Issey Miyake one because I have a purple pleats please glass color series nylon robe-thing that I found while browsing the futurist tag on depop. As you say in the video, his wild designs have a way of drawing in newbies. It's been hanging in my closet since I bought it because I haven't had the confidence to actually wear it out but your video gave me a mad confidence boost so maybe I'll give it a shot. That's a lot of personal shit but keep up the great work and I'll keep trying to dress like I'm in a william gibson novel lol@@BlissFoster
I've been wearing exclusively for almost 4 years and love it and won't ever stop
I've been wearing women's pants (harajuku/yabi styled stuff) recently because not only are the designs way more outrageous than guys' pants but the dimensions make so much more sense... snug around the loins but flared around the legs. I am endowed with so much swagger wearing them that I feel I should be playing in Led Zeppelin circa 1972 with all the macho trappings to go with it. But deep down I feel kinda cute knowing I bought them from girls' streetwear shops on Taobao.
8:21 i think knowing how to make patterns on a mannequin helps too, i feel like that way theres more of a 4d element to understand how clothes are constructed, i have trouble understanding how many yards of fabric to use but being able to use a mannequin to put the design into something you can manipulate would be a huge help.
There's a lot of women's clothing that actually works on men, but VERY few men can actually pull it off, Bliss being one of the few.
Tom Ford had more impact on perfume than fashion IMO
Every single one is a hit. It's crazy.
Yay a new video!
Bliss sweetie, look, this is MY VIEW on Men in skirts: (by the way, I LOVE YOUR HAIR! ABSOULTELY GORGEOUS!) WEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO WEAR! IF YOU LOOK GOOD IN IT, THEN DAMMIT, WEAR IT, AND WORK IT! To me, if you got fabulous man gams, WORK THE SKIRT! Hell, the fellas been working the skirts for ages! (Romans, Scotts, David Bowie etc.) and the women working the man jacket, FABULOUS (DID YOU EVER CHECK OUT MARLENA DEITRICH IN A TUXEDO? DELISHOUS!) it's mainly the attitude of how you present the garment. if it looks good on you, you will know and they will too!
by the way, i am 63 years young!
Dottie gets it, everybody listen to Dottie 🦾
Great video!
Bliss Foster is a fashion beast. 👽
I don't even like fashion that much but this channel is so interesting
Haha I’ll take that as a compliment 😅
If I could recommend your next video, the reeeally good ones are the ones where we can spend a lot of time on a single runway show. If you have time, check out
Prada: Fascism and Fashion
Issey Miyake isn’t Dead: He’s Immortal
and
Rick Owens and Immortality: Spring 2023
Again, welcome in! I’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments as you check out more videos 💫💫
@@BlissFoster I definitely meant that as a compliment! Sorry for the confusion. haha 😂
I just think it's awesome listening/watching someone explain or saying their opinion on topics that they're so incredibly invested in. In a way, it makes me see things in a different perspective and in this case, it made me see high end fashion in a completely different way. And, I think that is really cool.
I will check out your other/future videos! Thanks for the recommendations!
THE COINS- IM LAUGHINH SO HARD HAHAHEFBS
Damn I'm early, kinda. Another fantastic video!
Great video, thanks for wearing the two shirts from the women clothing department in the store. The topic needed to be covered and is very timely. They are now your clothes and since you are not a women they are not woman’s clothing.
Clothes have no gender. Please cover more topic like this one.
if you cannot draw, start with drafting patterns from measurements. You will grasp a lot more than just gesturing beautiful things and hoping others can read your mind for you and put it together for you. Thats your job to get it out of your head cohesively. You'll then have a prototype, a wearable mockup. And if its perfect, a pattern that can be graded to fit others. If sitting down and drafting is too hard, this isn't your industry to produce in...just consume it and enjoy it that way.
A skirt is the lower part of a dress or gown, which covers the person from the waist down, or a separate outer garment that serves this purpose.
The hem of skirts can vary depending on cultural conceptions of modesty and aesthetics, as well as a person's personal taste, which can be influenced by factors such as fashion and social context.
Most skirts are stand-alone garments, but some skirt-like panels can be part of another garment, such as tights, shorts, and swimsuits.
In the Western world, women typically wear skirts, with a few exceptions, such as the Izaar (worn by men in Islamic cultures), the Kilt (which is a traditional male garment in Scotland and Ireland, and sometimes in England, Wales and Northern Ireland) and the Fustanella (which is a traditional men's garment in Greece).
Many fashion designers, such as Jean Paul Gaultier, Vivienne Westwood, Kenzo and Marc Jacobs, have shown men's skirts.
Transgressing social codes, Gaultier frequently introduces the skirt into men's clothing collections, as a way of injecting novelty into men's outfits, the most famous being the sarong worn by David Beckham.
Both men and women from many different cultures wear traditional skirts.
In its simplest form, a skirt can be a draped garment made from a single piece of fabric (such as sarongs), but most skirts fit close to the body at the waist or hips and are fuller below, with the volume introduced by darts, brackets, pleats or panels.
Modern skirts are usually made of light to medium weight fabrics, such as denim, jersey, worsted, or poplin.
Skirts made of thin or clingy fabrics are often worn with slips so that the skirt material provides better coverage and for modesty.
So many good moments in this video but I loved the story about the change falling out from the hole in your pocket 😅
My humble extraterrestrial ursine opinion is- darling if you FEEL GOOD you will LOOK GOOD. Nothing in the world made of fabric leather stitches or plastic will flatter you more than CONFIDENCE it glows. So really it doesn’t matter what you wear as long as it makes you feel like the divine entity you are if that’s a man in a skirt or a woman in a tail coat or a person combining the two. In my experience confidence is beauty, kindness elegance and humility a strength, or in other words, accept others, embrace yourself, and try not to get an ego that drags you into the stratosphere. Go be fabulous darlings no matter what you choose to clothe yourself in!
I don't like the exclutionary element of the mascule/feminine designation. Women have been adopting men's styles for decades; men adopting women's styles not only brings men a new breath of fresh air, but could also revive other more traditionally feminine garments for women to wear. Creativity ought to be encouraged.
You have to show us what’s behind the camera now! 😂😂
About the last question, I belive you’re doing an incredible job at this and help us formulate our ideas a lot more eloquently. I said this before when seeing you and Daniela in Paris but I would like to repeat it one more time. We are thankful for your contribution
Skirts are cool
Especially with sword
What skills are usable in fashion design if you're already an illustrator, but in an unrelated field like web comics? For instance, I have two version of the four basic colors I use. One is for drawing monochromatic sketches, that sometimes feature a lime or red color object to emphasize it. The other pair two opposites in that pattern to create a more extensive version that matches with its equivalent complementary color. But in design where you don't have a lot of colors to work with, sometimes you have to work with less.
I think I finally managed to decipher the whole opium aesthetic thing. In the county where I'm from, there's this subculture, the bombardieri, which basically dress the same way emo singers dressed in the early to mid 2000s (ripped skinny jeans, bonus points if they're paint splattered, graphic tees, giant black hoodies, belts with studded buckles, alt symbolism such as crosses, pentagrams or broken stuffed bears, really big on the whole ed hardy/von dutch revival thingy), if not "gayer" (did I mention that those guys insist on wearing their ripped skinny jeans at least ten inches below where the waist should be, so that it shows as much of their calvin klein panties as humanly possible without their trousers literally falling down to their ankles?). From what I've gathered, this subculture somehow evolved from american trap music and its adjacent fashion style into this, the main differences from emo fashion being that a) it's entirely consumeristic, hypebeast type mentality, we don't actually have an aesthetic taste, we want ugly clothes just cause they're expensive, and we want everybody to know they're expensive, so we spend all of our money on the cheapest shirt in store that has the giant branding printed on the chest, because that might as well be our collective identity, and b) whatever social consciousness similar subcultures might hold in the "civilized world" (aka the west) did not translate over here at all, the typical bombardier being utterly ignorant about ideologically progressive movements and people different to them and, moreover, being proud of his ignorance. In conclusion, it's a subculture supposed to represent the youth in all its glorious rebellion, but, at least as far as the rendition I've experienced in my own culture is concerned, it flew all the way over here from the west just to land flat on its face.
The “Opium” esthetic is supposed to be emulating street addicts it’s in the name itself. Skinny, gaunt, clothes big and falling off, dark circles and ripped clothing just like the models in the late 80s and 90s that were all messed up on herion it was called “herion chic” back then and now it’s “opium” or whatever but it’s all the same it’s like Balenciaga and how they “poorfish” (pretend they are poor as an esthetic). Rich people pretending to be poor for funnzies.
Dude I love mens fashion but it has been very difficult to keep up with it getting so feminine. Anyways, Love the videos and you have earned a sub!
*YOUNG DESIGNER CO-OPS* I think we need a movement, almost like an agency, where new designers can create one or two garments, they are put together with other new designers' works and shown and the "brands" or whoever can purchase the design OR they just get exposure...
We have an all-or-nothing system at the moment - you get hired by a brand or you die in the gutter. A fashion equivalent of The First Impressionist Exhibition, 1874 in Paris.
Thanks!
Thank YOU homie 💫💫
I'm an architecture student, and overall creative, with no intention of ever participanting in the fashion world (for economical and political reasons) but still interested in it as an art form and it's amazing to hear someone like you so passionate about the artistry of it. The culture needs people like you, Bliss!!
Me personally I’m a straight guy. I’m not a “manly man”, but me personally I could never see myself in adrgynous clothes like skirts or crop tops. I’m have nothing against men who do that but it doesn’t fit my style or body. I feel like the in between where it’s expanding the men’s wardrobe like Bianca Saunders or Kiko is where menswear should go instead of full androgyny as most people like me r just not into it
That's simply social conditioning tho
Born centuries ago would've made you into it
Just like any other person
You don't have to worry about pants unavailability, it's just that skirts may be more fashionable in couple of decades
Trends come and go so who knows
I can confirm, you have an influence on a fashion student
Clothing should not be defining gender or sexuality. Breaking the matrix one skirt at a time, not getting dressed for the strangers!!
Do you know what would`ve been cool? Leaving the room in a skirt after wishing us goodbye.
Bliss! Please talk us through the MET GALA 2024 theme. I have been checking your channel constantly since it was announced. Please do a video. xx
I mean, art is having a very fascinating life cycle in general! Be it fashion, writing, drawing, or even installations.
There is always a movement and a counter movement - and a resulting counter movement to the counter movement.
Eventually going back to the original movement.
The longer you live, the more obvious these things become; Punk was uncool niche when i was smol, and now its popular to the point people hate it because many find it obviously cool, and now it's in Opium XD And there are many things moving parallel to that.
The problem is that everything moves SO fast, in so many different circles nowadays.
One 'circle' might still be in the victorian era, while another social circle is having their renaissance and the next circles are sick of that already and make abstract art.
And I am of the opinion that there is nothing new under the sun, so it all comes down to how you present it, your intent or goal, and what circles you move in.
It actually seems most beneficial to be open minded to different concepts! Trying to not set your head down with preconceptions.
Give every style its chance and - even if its not for you - see its merits for others.
Not locking down what it means to be masculine or feminine - Many traditional Hungarian or Chinese garments are basically dresses for men too. It's nothing new either, what is new is trying to get people to accept each other in such a judgemental and rushed world.
Pull of what you like to pull off, support each other, and be proud of yourself~
Jean Paul Gautier was the pioneer of this look and nailed it like no one else could.
opium is the 2023 equivalent of the 2017 era, kanye turned into playboy carti, supreme and off white turned into rick and raf, sound cloud music became rage beats, codeine became ketamine, and in both case people struggle to speak proper english
I remember hearing someone (a man) say once, of women who dress in a certain range of styles (I wouldn't be able to say exactly what this person had in mind beyond the examples he gave of short-short skirts), "But if they don't want guys to look at them *that* way, they shouldn't dress that way." That seemed wrong to me at the time and it seems wrong to me now. There are several reasons why. But one is that we also (or maybe most of all) dress for ourselves: dressing does something to the way we relate to ourselves and our social environment (and our physical environment: take for instance walking down stairs in Kiss boots if you don't do it everyday). What would Bliss Foster say about the first-personal experiential aspects of intentional dressing? About that double inside/outside perspective a person gets from dressing in a way s/he deliberately chooses for him/herself?
Where do we ask fashion questions? Is this the platform, or do I need to creep onto Instagram?
This next round will just be the folks on the Patreon 💫💫
Come o brazil Bliss 💕🇧🇷
There's a famous tweet that goes "all fashion is unisex if you stop being a little bitch about it."
The poolside gunna picture gave me ptsd
the coins story 😭☠️
OMG. this was uploaded a mere 7 mins ago!
okay this video is giving Winona ever more so now, queen shit
In most cases, I don't choose women's clothes because they literally don't fit me correctly. I totally support whatever one wants to wear gender-wise, but I personally just vibe with menswear most. I'd probably get a Rick or Yohji skirt, but the overall vibe would still read v masculine overall. But I also love Lisa Frank-esque feminine maximalism, so do with that what you will 😅
we are always framing clothing by the decade of its construction. I am guessing any worthwhile designer would resist what is essentially trend based categories. I think. do you?
love the tops. and nobody is pressuring men to dress feminine. as dior/ysl said, it's all suggestions from designers. and ouch about it's all been done but c'est la vie. merci!
dude i usually present fem and i'm genderfluid, so I tend to wear a lot of super skinny jeans, and I love wearing yoga/bike shorts and I wear a lot of form fitting clothes and like blouses.
My favourite outfit that I have is a pink sheer ck blouse with gold zipper accents, a black turtle neck underneath, black super skinny jeans, and some high tops.
I wear a lot of crop tops and cropped jackets/hoodies too.
holy shit, you in the tom ford store was me being offered to try on walt and rick gear in elkel nyc when i literally had my rolling suitcase packed to go ride a greyhound home 😂
they were so kind but i felt gross even just imagining trying on such expensive/luxurious garments with no feasible intentions of affording anything there. still got some carne bollente cum socks 😎
also relating to “oh sorry, my loose change”, i sat my coffee on top of my bag to browse easier and their dog in store knocked my shit over not even 5 minutes after turning around, spilling my coffee all over the floor. they weren’t even mad, genuinely great store.
Feminine and masculine are social constructs and not real, but my personal answer would still be kinda yes. If fashion is art, its communicating something. And communicating and expressing yourself are seen as "feminine" traits, especially in fashion. Fashion was pretty much run by women, until the sewing machine. Modeling or being a mannequin/muse was a way for woman to have an income, when sewing wasnt well paid anymore. The girls, gays and theys are here for a reason, is what I'm saying.
But it is a social construct, so do whatever you want, forever
Men have been wearing skirts and dresses ( long shirts) for thousands of years. Only until the past like 300 years it was weird..I do think skirt, above knee is a little weird but kilts and the likes are pretty cool. Same with the lace thing..I mean shit, some holy vestments are made with lace🤣
Men really stopped wearing a lot of styles with the Enlightenment era 1780-1800, when men were supposed to dress "rational" as opposed to women's "emotional" dress.
There is a lot to like about what Enlightenment has brought us, but the clothing is horrible.
Theres a fine line between dressing feminine and dressing like a rock star which is where the confusion comes from i think
Frankly more men should wear floral.
I love the "peacock" trend it's just a cultural construct to lable certain garments as feminine - they are just clothes. Historically men have dressed extravagantly for centuries, (at least the rich ones). The very boring way men have been dressing for the last 100 years particularly the last 30 is actually very recent. If I were a man I would be so happy to finally be able to dress in interesting, creative and stylish ways.
Bliss addresses Opium kids, thank you Bliss, SLATT 🗣️😉
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Im just a little confused by what you mean by “unfinished” clothes
Men in Skirts: Why not?? Everyone evolves in their personal style. I remember way back when I was Ralph Lauren then Euro style i.e. Armani, Prada. Now I finally found my style is wearing Yohji Yamamoto. However, some people think I'm a priest when I wear a hakama.
Because the average men don’t care about “brands” and “styles” as much as you do. Going to my local mall, there’s a consensus on what men like to wear because of what they buy. Even more expensive brands like J.Crew are for more business attire and KNOW that “men’s skirts” will tick a lot of people off for not being traditionally masculine. IMO, I like the masculinity styles, but I see less and less of it in regular malls. Even Ties are starting to become obsolete.
And to think I had Bliss 100 down as a Carti boi 😈
The person at 4:40 sounds like Safiya Nygaard
Tom Ford story brooo😭😭
what makes a garment "unfinished"
Some skirts that I wear "as a man" I like because of their feminine style and connotations, for the way they bring out feminine aspects of the rest of my presentation. (Why scare quotes around "as a man" and not around the word 'feminine'? I could explain, but why bother as long as no one's asking?) Some skirts I like because of their masculine connotation. For me, anyway, the existence of the gender binary is part of what makes dressing interesting. I think some binaries are ok; it's just better we don't think we have to be governed by them.
Agreed, my biggest issue with gender norms is the enforcement of them.
Also; I’m asking! What’s up with the quotes?? 💫💫
For the most part, I'm confident I can identify conventionally masculine and feminine features, styles etc. It's a huge part of the world I inhabit with other people. Really, it's practically impossible to ignore. So I don't feel a need to use scare-quotes to distance myself from it as though it weren't a real part of cultural reality. But am I wearing a particular article of clothing, be it a butcher's apron or a full-length dress by Gareth Pugh or pants or whatever as someone who unreflectively and totally identifies with a socially constructed gender-role? Well, no, I'm not, anyway, because at least on many occasions I like the space and the tension between those roles and while I recognize (of course!) that part of the play consists in the fact that my appearance will (also) be readable as that "of a man," I'm not always wearing whatever in order to be read (just or only or primarily) as a "man." Though I don't feel like I can (or want) to distance myself from that social role-identity in all situations or totally even in any one situation, when I'm dressing, I feel sensitive to gender-coded differences without feeling that my dressing that way is tantamount to declaring my conformity to what anyone might expect of the one or other role. There's also more than one way of "masculine" (and there are those scare-quotes again) skirt-wearing, and to say one is wearing one "as a man" is to underdescribe it by a wide margin, as I've discovered. These things are pretty contextual, so it seems.@@BlissFoster
The comments talk more about the topic at hand than the actaul video. wow
The coins dropping from your pocket were just the Universe reminding you that that $12K Bootland is a fabulous, but also a very, very silly place.
Hahahaha the random come to Brazil