ATN THOR 640 17 MICRON MY THOUGHTS AFTER THREE MONTHS
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- **I SAY 24 MICRON THE THOR NOW USES A 17 MICRON PER ATN*** THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THAT THE IMAGE QUALITY FALLS BEHIND THE OTHER MAJOR MANUFACTURES IN MY OPINION.
THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, I HAVE NO AFFILIATIONS WITH ANY THERMAL OR NIGHT VISION MANUFACTURES. I HOLD NO ANTI ATN FEELINGS AND THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK. THIS IS SOLELY TO HELP UNEDUCATED BUYERS MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON AN EXPENSIVE PURCHASE.
anytime a company tries to stifle your freedom of speech, I know they are garbage and to be avoided. your integrity speaks volumes. bravo
I value honesty more than my dollar, and my dollars I value dearly. As a disabled veteran, I cannot be careless with how I budget my hunting expenses. Thank you for your insightful and informative review. After years of viewing CZcams this is my first comment, and I have followed your channel. So you know opinion is neither slander or libel.
"My loyalty is to the customer and to my followers" -- that is really appreciated!
A Breath of fresh air, Thank you for not being a "SHILL" Channel, I was going to buy one, now I am going to keep looking, remember there's a million sellouts on CZcams, be glad you stand for truth and the American way 👍
Thank you for being honest, I respect your opinion even more now. Great videos and great shooting
Thanks for the videos. I like seeing real world uses of equipment so I can make an informed purchase. Like you said, these units are too expensive to be buying on a lark and not having them perform to the amount of money invested.
What are your favorite thermals to use on hog guns?
blue heeler66 I have the same question here. I just finished a hog hunt in Texas with an outfitter who used an older version of the ATN Thor. I was not impressed. I’m here on CZcams doing research because I would still like to purchase a thermal scope if possible.
Nice hat
I have tried ATN, for me they are the worst china made equipment, have poor customer service if any, are slow to change. Definitely quantity over quality. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONEST REVIEW! Poor picture quality for sure
You cannot go wrong with telling the truth. Your dedication to us, your followers is admirable and appreciated. Keep up the good work.
No bashing!!! Just straight honest and truthful thoughts with concerns to the consumer!!! Love it!!!! Great job well said!!!!!!!?
Thank you for that video Todd. Very professional, honest, and transparent. I trust your opinion and video footage ATN will need to step up their game lets hope they do!
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Appreciate the honesty tod well made and respectful video
thanks for all your help - guys like you save poor uninformed guys that can't try 50 different products before we buy a lot of time n money - thx a million n keep up the good work - so nice to get honest straight resources - i decided on pulsar
Thank You! Confirms what I will purchase . I’m an old man and Old School. I was taught . Honesty is the best policy.
You’re the Man ! Love your videos and respect your opinions.
Todd Huey, you are a good man and did what was right in telling it like it is. Respect! We all benefit from you giving us the straight story and we are all on here in the first place because we look to you for reliable information. Any manufacturer who doesn't want people honestly ranking their product against other similar devices needs to up their game, not order users to stay quiet. I took to your videos right off and and after watching a lot, I bought a Pulsar Apex 50mm and really like it. I've learned a ton from your videos about hardware and the behavior of pigs and strategies to effectively take them out. Because I listened to you, and a couple of others, I went from getting one or two hogs per visit to Texas to where 1've gotten as many as 11. Now, here's even more proof that you are the real deal! Hope to shake your hand some fine day. Keep it up, brother!
Yep, they wont even call me back after warranty work the first time, my first one was doing the same things.
Send me an email txgamehunters@gmail.com I will make sure you get to the right email
Thanks, I'm not interested in contacting ATN, I have already tried that and moved on, thanks any way, I subbed your channel and I don't normally post negative comments but a lot of problems I have noticed from products and service from ATN. Thanks for taking the time to comment !!!!
Same. They suck. Terrible.
Similar results to my ATN X-Sight II HD. I put it on a Remington R25 in .308. After less than 20 shots the image went from color to Magenta. The next time I turned it on, it went blank after 30 minutes and won't turn off. I had to remove the batteries to turn it off. I put the batteries back in, turned it on and there is no image. Just a blank gray screen. Called Customer Support and was told I had to have the original receipt to get the scope fixed under warranty. I registered the scope with ATN when I bought it. They said that only is for receiving software updates. It does not activate the warranty. What a waste of money. I can only imagine how I would feel if I spent 10x as much for a Thor.
THANK YOU for being honest with us! I can see that you're torn, but you did the right thing by being honest to yourself and your followers, and well as ATN. I kind of don't blame them for trying to get you to keep quiet while they fix the issues they're having, but that's the risk a mfg takes when sending something for evaluation, or even just selling anything in the age of social media. You're also helping them by making this video, whether they know it or not. You're helping motivate management to make their products better. In the automotive industry, literally, the only thing that got the big-3 to make decent cars is when the imports started handing them their ass, in the 90's, and they HAD to make better products to stay alive.
Thank you for your honesty. Some youtuber's bias is obvious. They LOVE every T&E they receive. I'm not in the market currently but nevertheless thank you for acting in the best interest of the viewers even if its not in your best interest. Let me know if you ever need help in the field, as I'm just down IH 35! ; )
Your honesty and objectivity in your reviews are what we are looking for and appreciate. Keep up the excellent work.
Thanks for the honest product review. I ultimately came to a very similar conclusion regarding ATN. PS your shooting style and marksmanship speak volumes for your credibility as well. Keep up the great work.
You gave an honest review of the product. This is why I follow your channel.
Keep up the good work!
Your honesty is why I am now a follower of you. We need reviews like this. These things are not cheap. When you save for 5-6 months it has to be a buy once cry once. Once again thank you.
So glad I stumbled on this video. Was gonna order an ATN Thor. Not now, not after this quality.... you weren't the only one, but you gave enough detail to help
"Ordered" you? Oh, it's on! By what authority was this order issued? That would have been the last thing they ever said to me, but you have more class and decorum than I do. Thank you for your candor and honesty. I shan't be purchasing an ATN product.
Thank you, sir, was tossing up between the two units now I think I know which one I am going with Trail XP50. True unbiased reviews are very hard to find on CZcams you sir have a new subscriber.
Great content. Fair and balanced. Thanks for valuing us the consumers! That takes integrity. And we appreciate it.
Thanks for your unbiased opinion and not backing down. I cant afford even the cheapest of thermal scopes. I grow and sell veggies for a living and I have a kid in college. Lol I just like watching hog hunting videos. I still use green lights and a scope. Maybe someday I'll get a thermal and I'd hate to buy a sub par unit due to misinformation. Thanks to honest ppl like you that shouldn't happen.
Yep, I see what you mean about the picture blurring up after you fire a round. Great that you still published the results regardless of ATN's request to not publish. The truth always is what we vewers want and thanks for telling us and then actually showing us. Heck, I was just about to purchase the ATN HD thermal through Amazon but I'm a bit concerned. Thanks again for the honest opinion. Thats' worth a dang lot to me.
Lone Star Boars, Thank you for taking the time to make this video and give an honest evaluation on the product. I truly do appreciate such an in-depth review sharing both the positive and negative aspects of this device.
Thanks for this honest review I know it wasn’t easy for you to put this out on CZcams. I appreciate you informing us about your experience with Atn.
They can hassle u. But unless you signed a confidentiality agreement then you are a ok. We appreciate the honesty
telling you not to put a vid on youtube about the atn just so they can rip more people off its nice to have a honest review good man
The light of truth shines brighter than the darkness of lies, Brother. Thank you for keeping your integrity in the face of a company that would order you not to speak up.
This is why I watch your videos, I'm getting close to buying and don't want that headache of malfunctions in the field, that would piss me off spending that kind of money and having to explain to my wife I wasted the money
Sounds like it's a tough review to share, but we appreciate it.
Always tell the truth! It's easier to remember and easier to verify!
Thank you for this review. These companies should want this feedback. Unfortunately they are all about money and not the customer.
The guys in the know realize you're gonna get some shit from some mad Russians but we all appreciate the honesty. For the record I LOVE the new pulsar products.
Glad to hear your review. I'm in the market for thermals
Awesome video mate and unfortunately ATN are the same on all there range of scopes, I think the problem lies in the fact they get made in China we have issues here in Australia with the 4k which are different problems to the ones you have in America, the other problem is that they seem to not care so long they sell there product. I had a discussion with ATN about why it was taking so long to my scope and they replied they had to make sure the scopes were right after the firmware issues in the US, on receiving mine it was dead right out the box, i sent it back and after being fixed it still has multi pull issues including freezing and the zero elevation being about +17cm on every start up.
I really appreciate your honesty. If I pay that much for anything, like everyone, I expect it to work. Hopefully ATN will realize their error and will stand behind their product.
BTW... I heard on a different video (one of Keith Warren's) where you were a guest on his video and you were talking about equipment. He said that you were a deputy Sheriff? Are you still? If so, how do you find the time to do all of this and that also? Perhaps you could come up with a "Time Management" course for the rest of us who would like to accomplish as much.
First video I've seen seen comparing other night vision products together. Great video and thank you for your honesty. It seems like most people put up with ATN products if its their only scope and I appreciate your honesty when comparing this scope to the competition.
Thank you for your honest opinion. The shot video sealed the deal for me. Because of your honest opinion, I am now subscribed.
Thank you for your honesty and integrity. I really respect you for standing behind the consumer's and their best interests. To offset whatever they may try to do I'd love to come hunt some hogs with you one day! Keep up the great work and keep the awesome content rolling. We stand behind you!
JJ
glad you made the video , saving others the hard times and waiting for answers, great and honest review. your expertise on the field should be appreciated by the manufacturing companies after all you use the equipment more hours than most of us. thanks for the vid.
I've been wanting one for years and am finally financially able to afford one. I know this was from 2 years ago and they've since released a new version. But the fact that they asked you not to share your experiences with their product says alot about the company. I appreciate your honesty, especially since it meant probably loosing a sponsor. Here in eastern N.C. we don't have much of a hog problem, but coyotes have decimated the deer population. I'm still on fence about which brand to go with and your experiences with ATN will definitely be taken into account.
The new ones still fall far behind the competition. And nothing has changed with their business practices, and service.
Thanks Todd, I have tried the ATN, sent it back, just too complicated to work, I was going to buy an ATN rifle scope that uses the SD card, but after watching this video I will by the IR Patrol, and pay plenty more for a better product, Your just another great honest Texan.
Thank you for the honest review and feedback Sir! It is very much appreciated.
HI Todd, I appreciate your Opinion's and your In-depth reviews on these Thermal's and other items you use. That is one reason I follow your channel is because you're Honest. I Thank You for that. I can't afford any of these units but for the people that can I'm glad you're doing these reviews in a Honest format.
Thanks for you honest and through review. Very helpful!
Thanks for being honest. The only positive item was that the scope had a bright reticle! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for not shilling.
This review is just what I needed and is consistent with other review I have read.
Thanks for your honesty.
God Bless The Truth.. I have been contemplating buying a thermal I have an ATN night vision. thanks for the review an showing actual footage I would be very hurt to spend that kind of money an get those results.
You know in my opinion, when they told you to not make videos anymore on this product, that's just a cop out on there part. They don't want to have that publicity your giving people for you just being honest. And to me that is the best thing they could have you do. That makes every one honest. So with that said, I would find someone else, even if it cost you money, because why lie. And besides that, it's hard to lie when you have the footage. God bless my friend. Just keep doing what your doing. And I know all you hunters and fisherman out there are also having trouble with CZcams getting in your pocket book to. What's next?
I have not ran into any off the problems talked about,mounted on my 30-30 it worked for me...but i do agree the eye piece does cover more of the screen if your to far away put that's any scope right!...I am ready for the next generation ATN.
Love your videos. Thanks for the info. I had to sell an ATN scope for the same reasons.lost $500 on the scope just to get rid of it.
Great video and excellent points. If they can't accept your candor you don't need to send you any more units and they need to improve the Quality of their product as a $5k price tag it better work after every shot fired.
Thanks for sharing! Greatly appreciate you looking out for the consumer. I am in the market for a thermal and am thankful I came across your video.
Tons of respect for you and your channel, I can tell you are pained by making the video and want to honestly wish you well.
2 years into the future ATN has done a good job of fixing these problems with the THOR 4 and I imagine this video is why so thank you for this honest review.
They fixed eye relief, and price other than that they still have a high failure rate, fall behind the competition in image quality, and bottom of the barrel customer service. I get calls daily from customers experiences. Yes some people get scopes that do not fail but it’s like playing Russian roulette.
Lone Star Boars well I will keep you updated on mine. A month in and it’s still working. Crossing my fingers it stays that way.
Thank you for your honesty. I just ordered a Pulsar X Q 38 a. My A T X Sight shuts off every few shots now. Did work for almost three yrs though. Bought a 4 K . A T N. Sent it right back as it wouldn’t take its first internal battery charge. I’m betting on the Pulsar.
Integrity is not negotiable. 🤙
It simple to say that you are a good man for letting us know of the quality and reliability. Thank You!
You're doing a service to your followers and CZcams viewers. Like someone else posted ATN should welcome the input of someone using their products in a real world scenario. Your opinions and reports are widely respected. Watching you has made me realize I need to come up off the bucks and go Thermal. With that said, in my research and shoppingI have been discouraged on even considering ATN by people who sell them.
Thanks for the video. I was considering this brand and model due to cost, but after watching this, I will save money a little longer and go with the more expensive brands.
Great job with the review of the Thor, I'm even more impressed with your honesty. That is hard to find these days, you where slot on Todd. The recording of your hunt was great, I think that is the best I've seen from a good hunt.
I appreciate your honesty bro. Thanks. You’ve done me a huge service in the past regarding Armasight.
As an ATN fan and owner, I thank you for being honest. Awesome job with your review.
Todd, thank you. For me, the response from ATN on your conference call says more than seeing the equipment malfunctions.
Good review ... something the consumer needs to know! Thanks
...and this is why I like this guy
Thank you for your honesty and man am I glad I've never pissed you off
Thank You for being true to your viewers over companies.
thanks for your unbiased view point this will save me a lot of problems
My ATN scope froze once, and I pressed the power button for 15 seconds to turn it off. I did it all by myself.
Then I went to the ATN website, and the following is what I found out:
"If the device does not restart within 30 seconds, press and hold the power button for 15 seconds and the scope will turn off."
-- those are the exact words from the ATN website.
Thank you for your kind honesty. We really appreciate sharing with us your opinion
appreciate the honesty...i bought the THOR and returned it. It actually had a dirt ( or something) particle on the INSIDE of the lens. bad QC, should have never been there. secondly, the image wasnt good at all- Just my opinion. the unit was bad enough that i forwent the 20% restock just to get rid of it.
When using internal batteries the Kentlis are what's recommended, you will typically get 6-8 hours of run time off of them with the ATN units.
Todd, I commend you for the class you used in that video. I have never owned a ATN thermal but have a X sight. The video on it is also better than the screen image. I have no gripes in the way it works but have not convinced myself if holds zero and only use it for the video. Again my friend, thanks for your straight up honesty.
Seems like a fair and balanced review. ATN ordering you to not post CZcams or social media give me the feeling they know it's bad and don't want people to know the truth. If there is ANY reason that I wouldn't buy an ATN it's because they tried to silence you. ATN, learn the most important lesson in marketing. Don't try to cover up your issues. EVERY recall goes better and smoother when the manufacturer fesses up and get it done.
Thank you for making these kinds of videos as well as all the others.
Thank you for what you do. Honesty is always the best policy. If they can take it, feed them fish heads, rice and gopher guts.
I've been courting the idea of this brand for a while. Thank you, for your honest opinion, and for putting the info out there. $5,000 is a lot of money when you work like I do. I appreciate the info, captain.
You are lucky to talk to them regular guys can never may contact with customer support
I have the thor4 resent purchase your vedio was great and maybe they listened 16 hours on battery and so far has worked well using 640 1.5 by 15 about 100 yards
They fixed some things but they still have terrible service and a high failure rate. I hope you got one of the few that doesn’t fail.
Thank you for an honest video. I have an ATN I'm not happy with.
ATN do need attacking ! I Have purchased 3 ATN items, all 3 have issues, an X sight 2, an IR illuminator and an external power pack, none work as they claim ... no support..... no replies. Piss poor ! maybe we just get the crap in the UK .... Personally I suggest people steer clear of ATN unless you like wasting your hard earned cash on poor quality goods and paying the wages of people who cant be arsed to respond reply or give a stuff ! Lone Star Boars is the only honest video I have ever seen! everyone else is either sponsored by ATN or gets freebies to keep them sweet ! having lots of followers makes them take note, if you are an individual don't expect anything but problems and as stated here the "user" error if you do ever get a response !
Loan Star Boars... keep up the honest reviews, its a refreshing change !
Thank you for making this video because this is an obscene amount of money for me to spend. On a scope it takes me years to be able to save up enough money the bioscope like this.
Thanks for your honesty.
Yes I appreciate your opinion and your honesty as well as other comments for if I would ever get one of them scopes to come to Texas or anywhere else from Ohio to Texas I would love to have a good choice knowing what I'm buying thanks again
Thank you for your honest opinion. Which is a good night vision rifle scope which covers around 1500-2000 . I value your opinion .
Thanks
Yup I have the same poor resolution from my latest ATN which I paid $650 from Academy sports and Outdoors and yes the battery usage is terrible and this is my second ATN and adding a battery pack won't connect. I will never buy one again and this is my opinion. Thanks for being honest. Because I bought mine because of people's CZcams videos if I would have seen this video I would not have bought mine. The first one I had the night vision screen would only display half a screen.
glad i watched your video.. i handled a ATN Thor 4 384 today at Academy Sports..little grainy,so i may save more money and get a quality optic that has a proven reputation and great image quality..
Hope Tod don't get messed with to much but he's spot on. I bought a ATN a few years back ,it was a cheaper model so I wasn't expecting much to begin with but it was awful. It never even made it on my rifle, out the box 6 hours setting it up, back in the box. Thank God for MIDWAY USA's return policy.
GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE WITH THE BALLS TO SAY HOW IT REALLY IS, HELPS TO SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME, TOP MAN.MICK FROM UK.
I contacted ATN to ask about their scopes and they never replied. Pulsar replied right away. I have an x-sight 1 which is ok. Many reviews on Amazon which describe poor customer service. I would not buy any equipment without knowing that customer service would back it up. Especially these expensive scopes. Thanks for the honest video.
I too, am currently suffering through an ATN nightmare. For 2 weeks now, I've been trying to get an optic, shipped to me.. I ordered a Thor 4, and they dropped the ball, only at the last minute, after constant calling, did I find out that the unit I ordered was out of stock. So, I was charged for an upgrade to a 2.5 x 25, 640 optic.
Well, the first one arrived and had 5 different problems. It was suffering from Glaucoma, as well as multiple other issues. The Laser Rangefinder I got, also was not working and no bluetooth connectivity.
So, I asked them to ship me another one, and I'd send this one back.. Well, they had to charge me, because the other one was in transit. Fine, stuff several thousand more dollars on my credit card.
Next optic arrives next day air Friday. Well, this one was kinda working, but the memory card doesn't fit, it has chips on it, and the laser range finder, the ABL, Auxiliary Ballistic Laser, is completely dead.. won't power on, nothing..
So, I'm now Zero for 4... 4 products, every one of them dead. I'm thousands and thousands of dollars down on my credit card, and still don't have a good functioning scope. I'm able to use it, but it's been a total failure. At $4400 a pop, and having 2 of them now purchased floating the return refund on my credit card, I'm more than upset. Both laser range finders are broken, but one kinda works.. I don't even know wtf to do at this point. I'm really upset.. Their customer service has been sub-par, and unless you're calling to spend money, they truly don't want to deal with you.
It's taken me days and days, just to get a damn RMA, and get the thing shipped back. I could go on and on, but right now, I have a lengthy email composed to them, and I'm just about ready to bite nails. I don't know whether I should just send it all back for a refund at this point, or hope to god it works for at least a year once I get a good imager.
Someone help! Anyone else besides lone star having these issues? I use to really like ATN as well and had previous dealings with them on a top level business basis.. but the company or something has just gone down the tubes. frustrated as hell at this point so I figured I'd search to see if others have these issues as well. Fuggggg
Another quality video by "The Lawman"!
Oh no I just order one 4 days ago" but I didn't get the record type" trying to save money" couldn't afford the high price one" but still it costed me over 1400.00 dollars I'm not a rich man" but they said that running time was 8 hrs. Hope I didn't wasted my money" thanks for sharing truthful!! at any cost"!
This was overdue...thanks for the honest feedback.
The integrity of this video earned you a subscribe.