One Above All - The God of the Marvel Multiverse
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2022
- In this video I talk about the most powerful character who's fascinated me ever since the dawn of time. He's not the real god though, that guy's directing Doctor Strange 2.
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This one's shorter than usual - I probably could have stretched it longer but I said all I wanted to say. If people start arguing about religion in the comments, they'll feed the algorithm and I'll get exactly what I want
You here that sins past got retconned?
@@j-a-productions2943 yeah but they didn't get rid of OMD so what's the point, at least go big or go home
@@alexlennen blame the quesadilla.
I'll be asking for those feet pics when the time comes, and believe me, it will come.
It was really good video, I never seen a other youtuber talk about the one above all like you did
What’s cool is that DC’s own version of the One Above All (either the Presence/Writer) is actually referred to as “The One Above All” in a few issues of the Spectre comics, implying that it’s all the same character even across two different companies.
ostrander (anything post ostrander that features corrigan is non canon because uhhhhh videogames) didn’t really use god that much. (except for that one weird trip where they fought evil god but that wasn’t him) it was just the angel michael so it was probably a coincidence. unless it was from a past run idk
That sounds fucking awesome, I would love it if were cannon. 😂
@@MattBlackstone everything is canon if you headcanon hard enough.
That would be amazing
I mean the writers for DC and Marvel are often the same.
The idea that the One Above All is the most powerful Marvel character is a common misconception, since the true most powerful Marvel character is Big Wheel.
Big wheel solos one above all with a single wheel
bruh
Very true, few can rival the power of Big Wheel.
@@doozy5184 in the wake of the newest video, I bet ya feel pretty foolish.
Nah it's clearly the Wall.
I like the idea that TOAA looks different to different people. It takes the form of what the character wants it to look like in order to not break their minds. It also gives a look into the characters' psyche, as you literally get a physical manifestation of what they think a perfect, all-powerful being should look like.
A homeless dude
@@FrenchPrinceofBel-Air a lotta people view God or what a god is as something more intimate and humble, so what's more intimate and humble than a good-hearted homeless man?
@@uryenatienza4093 Superman?
(Partially joking btw)
isn't Stan Lee the real one above all? and jack kirby just his disguise as one above all? I really think its Stan Lee
I haven’t completely read the Immortal Hulk comics, but seeing TOAA’s line at 6:29 is really intriguing as a Christian. That’s because it mirrors the book of Job near its end, where God answers to Job’s question of “why?” by asking him that same question of “Where were you when I laid these foundations?” The way I see it, God creates good situations and permits bad ones, and they all have a purpose in our lives, even if we never understand said purpose.
Even if you’re not a believer in any way, I think reading a synopsis of Job will make you appreciate the story of Immortal Hulk and its portrayal of TOAA just a little bit more.
Immortal Hulk > Job
@@GDKF0238 it’s subjective
I’m always conflicted on God characters. I think it can be really interesting but also can come across as really boring and feel like takes away from the mystery of a universe if that makes sense
yeah same tbh
the biggest problem with creating a god character is you that you take the idea that should never be capable of understanding and give it form, it requires you to set some sort of limit for the power, even if it is a limit not visually shown(the imagination of the creator of said character) the higher the limit or the more they break the mold the better they are because they are slightly closer to what a god could be compared to the all knowing but benevolent personality most god characters have
@@The_Archer-he2ft what a fantastic answer
@@The_Archer-he2ft I think god of as like a blind person hearing a movie, They can hear the movie but each person will visualize it their head differently. If were to write a story, each character would see god in a different form depending their view. Like Batman would see god as his dead parents, while Blackcat would see god as a bride-taking judge, due to her ability to distort chance.
@@radiokunio3738 Its the same deal with Galactus right?
We all know that the true “one above all”created bully maguaire’s philosophy:
“No matter were I go, no matter what happens, I’ll miss the part were that’s my problem”.
He was created to slap some sense into all the drama
Well bully maguire was a masterpiece
Is that the Bully corps oath?
The Immortal Hulk finale really shook me up. It's the best Marvel run in recent memory, IMO. This is a great overview. I haven't come across your channel before, but this is great content! 👍
Love this video, I always enjoy seeing how God, or Godlike Characters are portrayed in media. Whether it's with reverence, or humor or sacrilege. As a Believer I find it like a particularly fun to imagine a Creator in various ways even if I don't agree with every interpretation .
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
@@bigguy7353 I am to assume this is bait and buddy you need to go to a fishing shop cause this bait is terrible tasting Jesus Christ
I believe humans we're the image of God/One above all. As His image, we can be the very balance that the light and dark seeks to achieve. The very balance that the good and evil seeks to give, the same balance that the predator and the prey aims to maintain.
@@UN1VERS3S I like this idea and it would explain the reason why earth is constantly under seemingly multiversal attacks all the fracking time because humanity being a sorta cosmic balance is causing everything to gravitate to it
I've always enjoyed the concept of an in-universe author-god. That is, characters being able to speak with their creator without breaking the fourth wall.
I enjoy the idea because what they'd quickly realize is that their god's decisions aren't fuelled by morality, but by a desire to craft a compelling narrative.
In a comic by Neil Gaiman, Reed Richards realizes this. When the Thing asks if figuring this out will help him turn Ben back into a man, Reed says that it's absolutely within their power to do so, but that no solution can ever be permanent. This is because Ben will always be more compelling as a monster then he is as a man.
@@pumpkinpartysystem so what Animal Man #26?
@@pumpkinpartysystem The NeverEnding Story (Book) 1979
What comic by Gaiman was it?
@@pumpkinpartysystem Too many questions, it throws me off. It's like you're obviously trying to force a certain message into me, and I don't like it.
But that aside, that's an interesting idea especially as a fictional story
I don't even know what message I'm trying to force tbh
*Just wanted to say, you are truly one of the best comic book CZcamsrs of this decade and my personal favorite!* Literally all of your videos have been amazing, and I can't wait to see what comes next. Godspeed, Alex!
sorry did you forget about comics explained or comic storian lol
@@aryataywade227 I was just about to say that lol those 2 literally got me into comics both dc and marvel
@@aryataywade227 and dopespill and GodzillaMendoza, but I have to agree with OP and say Alex's videos live rent free in my head
GODspeed
Jesus the great restorer and friend loves you all :" )
He is my savior who took away my health issue and continues to work on me daily, I hope you can trust in Him too
Late to this, but I just wanted to say I really like your closing notes on this video. As long as it isn’t used to tear other people down, faith can be a beautiful thing. Great video
This is such an interesting and well made video. I’m actually shocked that the ideas the you presented here are actually really similar to the beliefs that I have myself, just more thought out and developed. I don’t know why this vid makes me feel good, just well done I guess thank you.
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
One Above All: Our greatest ally and enemy who is one and the same. The complexity of Immortal Hulk is what really sold it home for me though when I first read that. It strangely makes sense in a very messed up way.
"The Devil is God's Hulk" is such a badass yet utterly ridiculous statement, and I'm so glad Immortal Hulk decided to explore it in depth
@@raymondfarinas3169 though are we forgetting that the one below all also exists and is a seperate entity (elluded to have existed before the one above all, and only became the one below all because reality was made on top of him)
@@OrderedEntropy not possible. Toaa who=omnipotence is still the one below all
@@kalybgamingsummers For the love of the living tribunal please check the marvel database entry for the one below all. They are nameless for a start 🫂
Not enemy,He Is not enemy
3:00 -the one above all is not emo
4:18 -the one above all is emo
5:26 -the one above all is not emo
Phases, right?
I subscribed off that rap at the end alone. And great content mann. You got one more here ☝🏽
the one above all just being straight up the artists is honestly amazing i love that
I'll always prefer the eeriness of The One Above All being an artist who still appears to have to answer to other people. It's such a perfect solution to leaving questions with answers.
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
@@bigguy7353 There are multiple One Above All. He is not to be confused with One Above All, the leader of the Celestials, or any religious figures.
reminds me a lot of how in the half life series, g-man (nice fella in a business suit, probably behind everything in the entire series) has ‘employers’
if that is so, then who created The One Above All? creation exists because we are in it. who created the creator? some say the entity just exists, which expects you to stop asking and stop thinking.
@@BobRooney290 That question is only really relevant if you are thinking of the 4 dimension we are working in. Assuming you are able to step outside of time and space, then this question becomes easy to answer. He just exist, because as an entity outside of space and time, he is everywhere, and everywhen. He is outside of time itself, and thus is not limited to it, thus not needing a beginning or end.
I interpret the TOAA as a representation of the writers and artists at marvel like Stan lee and jack Kirby. I think the one above all is really cool bc he usually makes other people do stuff or fix their own mistakes like that one time where thanos absorbed him and took his powers (yes this did happen tho I’m not sure if it’s cannon anymore) and fucked up the multiverse (or something along those lines my memory is ass) and it makes him a lot more interesting instead of if he himself just intervened at least to me it makes him more of this laid back kinda god who wants people to discover their mistakes or give them some advice but don’t directly give them the answer to everything Like when he talked to Peter. So for these reasons I find the one above all to be a really interesting character IMO.
Well said! I agree with you here. I also like to think that way.
And in the real world why couldn’t god just be a complete collection of every living things consciousness
The one thanos absorb is Above allo the other (AAO) which is an expect of TOAA in comic.
TOAA dwell in HOI
My rage bait comment didn’t work lol
This is kinda ridiculous, this would mean that a character who does nothing, is a fine character because they don't let you draw a conclusion about him
I first Found your channel throught Brick Wall video being recommended to me and I have to say that out of the few videos I've seen so far I think you make some amazingly good content. i also love how in some of your videos have a sort of song thing at the end, I think it is a really neat and unique thing that you do.
dude.i dig your content. you have humor and insight and I love the way you say the word bullet. BEULETTE. of course I'm subscribing.
Great work as always, man.
I'd never read that Fantastic Story, but it sounds like a pretty damn good read.
Also, i remember reading "The Book Of Peter" story during the Back In Black-era of Spider-Man; and finding it sadly heartwarming. That scene where he shows Peter all the people he's saved on the beach was pretty emotional for me.
Maybe it was the painted-looking art style, or the text epilogue that (Unfourtanetly) gives a false prediction of Peter and MJs future together.
I'm an orphan myself, and am agnostic, but the idea of afterlife being a picturesque beach is a really nice thought.
man that last panel of Book of Peter is heartbreaking
@@alexlennen i remember being pissed at the time because One More Day came right after and was like "wow, so Peter Parker met god and kinda made peace with the idea of May passing on for nothing? Okay Joe Quesadilla!"
orphan agnostic gang
Honestly incredibly thankful that I stumbled upon this channel. You’re incredibly informative, funny, and very musically gifted.
Thank you... This is fantastic. Well done. Excellent teachings.
I like the idea of the one above and below being the same cause there has to be balance, and gives a easy explanation why good and bad happen.
This is one of the*best* comic book CZcams channels and I'm glad your videos are made with genuine creativity and passion for comic books. More people need to see these honestly. Plus you actually read the comics and actually care to go into all the details unlike a few of those channels that just read the wikis for a few minutes. Also, your comedy is spot on man.
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
@@bigguy7353 Whatever man.
You honestly make some of the best comic videos I’ve seen on this app. KEEP MAKING MORE!
I believe humans we're the image of God/One above all. As His image, we can be the very balance that the light and dark seeks to achieve. The very balance that the good and evil seeks to give, the same balance that the predator and the prey aims to maintain.
U deserved ma sub just for the song at the end xdd the whole video is good like the way u talk bout itt
it was the first video on your channel I saw and I subscribed just after watching this video
I am so glad I got recommended your channel.
As someone who isn't involved with the comics, it's wonderful to have someone show me the ropes of characters and their arcs.
Will look forward to more vids from you Alex.
Much love from Canada.
I always imagine the one above all whispering when talking one on one, no matter the form or voice their voice is always a comforting whisper
Bro those ending songs are amazing. I've seen a few videos and they haven't been in every one but I love them
You never disappoint with your videos, and honestly, shorter ones like this might be better if they actually get released more fluently. You can even divide longer videos to several parts before uploading them separately.
Another banger. That Mephisto quote was just...damn.
Loved the song really changed things up.
Man, you almost made me cry with your reflections on the beliefs about God, meaning, and the universe. When there is respect, we, the people with all different beliefs, can live together in harmony and love. Thanks for creating this content; you are doing great!
Even after watching all of your videos I still never expect the bangers you leave at the end of them
Glad to see my man's still rocking it with his vids. I like the switch up of talking about a personified theme in the comics rather than a series or character as it brings more depth (Not saying your videos are bad, they are far from it, just nice to have something unique and different to other comic channels).
And don't think I don't recognize the big brain move of having a sick track at the end to get people to watch all the way through :D
The music at the end earned my subscription
Good video!! Really interesting topic!! Liked and subscribed!
Holy man, this is amazing, shocked you don’t have more subs, great content :D
Glad to be here for the premiere, great video as always, Alex. Your humor and taste are impeccable!
The problem with having an 'all-powerful god' character in stories is they must be purely neutral observers of the universe because any value system they hold would necessarily be immediately enacted upon reality. In simpler terms, a 'good' or 'evil' deity wouldn't allow for good stories since suffering/joy would not be allowed to exist. Other more complex value systems are possible but if you allow these systems to be explained in-universe you must forever make sure every story you write must fit with such a system and that is limiting to good stories. Thus, the only way such a deity character could work that I can think of would be for it to be unexplained for the most part and an impartial observer in most, if not all, situations.
I noticed this but I have a trick for my story that lets me have a good god with suffering
But there is an all powerful God who is all good and allows for suffering already. It’s the real God, the God of the Bible. We suffer because we chose to when we decided to be be our own gods instead of following Him. God is love and in order to love you must be free to love. That is why God does not force you to love Him but wants to convince you to and do it out of your free will.
Also why do you think that a good God would not allow suffering? In this fallen state of ours suffering now a guaranteed feature of life. Christ who is God Himself came here to suffer and die as it was foretold in the book of Isiah and played out in the New Testament. No secular person I knew would ever call Jesus bad or evil, in fact they all agreed that Christ is good and blameless. So if God while in human form had to undergo suffering why do we think we shouldn’t? I say this, because it seems to me you believe suffering is greatest evil, but suffering is not automatically evil or at least the greatest evil. In fact, it is quite often used for good. Exercise is suffering, discipline is suffering, and in fact the very heroes shown in Marvel and DC are so impactful not just because of their virtues but the suffering they undertake to stand in those virtues. I doubt they would be as well liked as they are if they did not have trails and tribulations to overcome as virtues would not mean much without the Will to suffer for them.
Next you make the assumption that this deity must be impartial for it to work (deism). There’s a problem I have with that, if that deity cannot or does not love or is good, why would they create? This all powerful deity who is completely self sufficient (I assume) why would they create anything that could potentially muck about and even destroy the universe the deity creates. Why run the risk of creating anything at all? I never heard an artist or engineer who was impartial to their work or created dispassionately.
Yeah, this is one of the reasons why God isn't real
Yeah, but at the same time, at least in most stories, the "good" guys always prevail, even if by suffering. So this "God" is a little more inclined to good than evil.
@@gannielukks1811 The inclination of the god in question should be irrelevant to what happens unless they're the sort that gets directly and often involved, because otherwise they're not doing it themselves but "Realising the will of _insert god_ "
Cool outro, better than jist commenting! Props.
it feels real great to find a chanel like yours
that ending is a bop btw
Thanks for putting content and not taking a break like some other CZcamsrs you make content and I love it
The rap at the end made me subscribe lol , more raps please .
Fun fact: the one above all said that peter must suffer in hes life cause of he had a good life he would become a villain that no hero can beat
favorite youtuber ever, love how you make those outro songs it makes the videos feel more alive
If I remember correctly The One Above All's other appearances weren't actually him and just The One Above Everyone.
The only times we actually saw TOAA was Sensational Spider-Man and Immortal Hulk. Jack Kirby isn't TOAA just has similar Godly traits to him.
"The One Above Everyone"? I thought it was "Above All Others"? Even you people can't decide which head-canon non-existent character you want to roll with. Neither character exists mate, they're simply the result of frustrated head-canon on part of a butthurt fanbase when their mental image of the cosmic hierarchy was shattered. TOAA got his ass stomped by Astral Regulator Thanos and yes, it is canon.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no You mean when Disney ordered Marvel to make a BS Infinity war tie in to promote their movie and retcon'd it as soon as possible because fans were let down and justifiably called them on their bullshit marketing ploy.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no it's a comic mate no need to be so rude and astral regulator thanos isn't stronger than toaa
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no that was AAO aspect of TOAA.
My headcanon is kirby being the Fulcrum. the creator of celestials and the guy only one step below TOAA
It's so sad that even in comics, all superheroes are looking for a purpose in their life. They can't just accept what happens.
I firmly believe the Jack Kirby depiction is literal, The One Above All is just the writers and artists who make the stories. Because of course the writers need to write bad things, there's an excellent quote I cannot remember the origin of, but it was something like "If everyone's happy, then there's no more story". So the creators make good forces, and evil forces, and push them together. To tell stories. Which should also leave The One Above All to only ever appear when they've truly written themselves into a corner, have no other ideas, no other options, nothing that'll meet the deadline, other than a literal self-insert to fix it, like Jack Kirby (honouring him, really Mark Waid for that specific issue) bringing The Thing back to life, not through a crazy plot or interesting magic or science or adventure, but through literally drawing him back into the story. Same with boosting Peter Parkers spirits, what on earth could cheer him up when Aunt May is possibly about to die, it's too much for just an MJ chat or some plot driven revelation, so the writer themself drops in to perk him up, but doesn't even answer the question, leaves too early. The One Above All would be great, if they just leave it at that level
Loving the videos as usual. You, Godzilla Mendoza, and Comic Tropes are like my top three favorite comic/superhero media youtubers. Keep up the good work and if the sudden explosion in views and stuff becomes too much of a strain, take a break! We'll wait for ya Alex!
Another banger as usual but I'm not surprised at this point, keep up the great work!
Rap at the end is tops and the beat slaps almost giving Baile
what an amazing video, can you do a video on the godlike beings in DC too?
I neverrrr comment on videos anymore. But I seriously really really enjoy you and this channel. I just starting getting into comics and I knew exactly where to start after your video on ultimate Spider-Man. I absolutely loved ultimate Spider-Man and miles morales Spider-Man as well, and I only knew to start there because of your videos. I appreciate your content and wish you all the success you get, thanks man🙏.
You deserve all the recognition you have now. I love your videos so much :')
The rap at the end was everything 🔥🔥🔥
7:54 I really like what you said there! I see this as Facts!
I love these videos so much! Keep on reminding me why I love being a comic nerd!
Another goated video, this man does not miss😭I read comics but Alex’ videos makes me want to get out my comfort zone and read absolutely everything comic related. I’ve mainly focused on X-Men comics over the years but I’m starting to get into other series like Ultimate Spider-Man and the event stuff because of these videos
This concept of an All Powerful being is done really well in Ben 10. The Celestial Sapiens, one of the most powerful beings in the Ben 10 Universe are the Creators of the Show
No it aint lol
No there are beings that are above celestial sapiens in Ben 10.
However it is a fact that they were the reason the artstyle and all the retcons took place.
@@azrael_morningstar Nope, the celestial sapiens are absolute, no one is more powerful than them. Not the Contemelias, nor the Naljians
@@gpfhantom1890 no there are. Celestial sapiens are 7th dimensional, the other beings are 20+
@@azrael_morningstar Nope, it is stated that Celestial Sapiens are the most powerful beings
One above all also indirectly appeared in Stormbreaker and the Saga of beta ray bill, where a white skeleton wearing robe like figure appears and revives beta ray bill assumed to be One above All, he also appears in an issue of she Hulk where he appears as stan lee and goes on an adventure. But we not sure weather it was one above all or not cause it was never mentioned
Sorry for being late I was busy the premier day so I couldn't catch it but this is pretty good the way you explain things is just too good and you end off everything with a song is just too nice.
Bro keep ‘em coming your content is actually good
I love how you explained on the theories of God
Great video! 👍
Another hit. That might be my favorite ending song, I legit laughed out loud. Thanks, I really needed that
I’ve never read a single marvel comic book but I’ve always imagined that it would be cool if the creators of the comic books were part of the universe as a sort of unreachable god entity that decides how the stories go, so cool so see that the exact kind of thing has already been made.
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
@@bigguy7353 She Hulk is above all
@@bigguy7353 you mistake "one above all" and "the one above all"
One above all is just as you said,the strongest celestial
The one above all is the creator of everything in marvel comic,including the living tribunal
bro your outro was sick
Great video! I have a question though. is there a living tribunal for every multiverse? Say the omni verse was real, would there be a living tribunal for our universe too?
Alex back at it again with an entertaining comic video followed by a banger song
Ate quesadillas while watching this, I love how the songs are now a consistent ending you have the voice of an angel
The ending caught me by surprise nice 👍
That rap at the end needs to be a short cause I wanna share it I love it loll
Whatever happened in 8:56 is giving me more of an existential crisis than Jack Kirby being God in the Marvel universe.
Great video as always though.
I don't think Jack Kirby thought of himself as God though. But a lot of comic book creators were Jewish and imparted their religious beliefs of a Supreme being God creator of everything and everyone.
Love this man.he literally putting up 300k and above videos 🙏
Your own thought and that song in the end 😉❤️
Every video you drop is consistently awesome! Love the effort my man
I honestly didn’t know that god existed until this video. Fr Alex, this is amazing as always keep it up! :D
This was really deep thanks I'm not super into comics but u made it interesting and kinda made me think about faith and my religion
The song at the end is quite catchy
Spider-Man Sins past is retconned
It was by revealed that Gabriel and Sarah were actually clones of Harry and Gwen created by Harry (during his time as the Green Goblin) to spite his father, working with Mendel Stromm and Mysterio to make it seem as though an affair occurred, and giving Norman the children
I have watched all of your videos and I have to say, every single one is a banger. I wish there were more, but I don't want you to rush your projects in any way. Keep doing amazing work(:
Nice video alex :]
There have been hints that there is something or someone above the one above all. At one time Thanos usedsomething (cosmic regulator I think) to absorb the one above all. It is something that Marvel has laid some ground work for, even if they decide to never go anywhere with it.
Back in the Defenders mini, there was a conclusion make about The One Above All as the greatest power they could ever reach. They are also defined as where the world of creation begins. The implications being, obviously, that the creators beyond the creator are their writers and artists. But theres also a metaphor on top of that metaphor, that of the limits of our perception. We can truly know god, we cant meet them face to face. There will always be a mistery there that we can interpret however we want to. So thats the something or someone above the one above. The god we cant imagine. So naturally, theres no way to go anywhere with it,
Thank you for putting ur effort and time damn man the song is... Sick
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him" - Voltaire
Voltaire was lowkey an idiot anyways.
Bro your song at the end was great
LMAO
Great vid. Thanks.
The ending made me tear up, it’s beautiful 🥲
Legit making the first real appearance of The One Above All Jack Kirby is hands down one of the best ways to represent it, especially for such a wholesome entry of the FF it was and is in general.
The One Above All is not the "God" of the Marvel Universe. He's simply the most powerful Celestial. As close as you'll get to "God" in Marvel is the Living Tribunal.
@@bigguy7353 but the one above all created the living tribunal
@@bigguy7353 bot
Bruh why do these videos always get me thinking. I just wanna go back to the wall now pleaaaseee I don't need an existential slap in the face but I mean still a good video.
Loved the rap at the end XD
thanks again for the great video as usual alex :) always interesting
Please keep making those songs at the end of your videos. like that Norman and Otto one, they bring me constant joy. 😊
Just wanna say...
I loved the end song lmaooo
This vid is great!
This video was an absolute joy to watch