PROCTOR RE-HOMED; Karen Read Mistrial~ What's Next with Ali Motta, Esq of
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Attorney Bederow won his case today! - Wonderful outcome for a great guy and his client. I pray his client can begin to heal.
yes such great news
Yay! 😃
Bederow and Melanie should take over for Jackson. Yannetti co- counsel.
Bravo MB💪🌟🌟🌟
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GREAT NEWS ❤️❤️❤️
What really oissed me off is the fact that Brian Albert, a trained 1st responder, holes up and hides in his bedroom while John O’Keefe lay on his front lawn not rendering aid, he doesn’t attend the funeral, (from what I’ve heard) YET he show up for closing arguments!
Exactly!!
BA also had a history of beating fellow cops while off duty and it was swept under the rug except for when he beat a fire department sergeant, he had to pay damages and was on desk duty for a while. He didn’t want any consequences this time.
@@s.z.6200wow! I didn’t realize that!
@@s.z.6200how do you know this?
Psychopaths don’t have empathy!
Brian. Jen and Colin should not have been allowed to sit and stare at those jurors during closing arguments!
I attended a few trials. Ex was crim defense attorney. On day of closings & during deliberations, state troopers came in full uniform on our dime to sit behind prosecutors… maybe 6 of them. If the jurors were in a quandary as it seemed bc it took 3 days to decide Guilty, I kept thinking had these big, brawny clean cut officers not come in, it would have been hung. One juror even wrote day after deliberations to judge, making all parties return to hear letter, that he felt pushed, persuaded… not o hang. Judge ruled against defendant saying it’s not unusual to have guilt. That jury was also read an Allen charge. They tried hanging despite paying the officers to appear. That said, no way would witnesses, civilians, be barred unless TRO are there for another that has to be, like an attorney
@@andyschoolcompletely and entirely utter BS. If any police officers took payment out of pocket from anyone other than the state; they are in fact doing so illegally & should lose their jobs & pensions immediately. Police officers can not take payment of any kind, including gifts, which is why Proctor said to give his wife a gift. They can’t take money from anyone. I would love to know where and when this alleged to have taken place as it’s 100% illegal to do so. Further, a Judge, any Judge, can sequester his court room at any time & bar or ban any persons from their court rooms. Where you’re getting such falsehoods & illegal tactics from, I would love to know as it’s a direct violation of the ethics & code of conduct not only for police officers, but also any lawyers.
WITNESS INTIMIDATION.
I’ve never seen that before.
The small courtroom was a set up to abuse the jurors
I'm still confused why Higgins jeep had to be in front of the mailbox. I think, did Higgins hide it in order to make John believe he wasn't there so John would come in and check alone. But they want to place it there so it doesn't seem like he was hiding. IDK what the importance of that is.
Additionally, i think some people did not see John come in the house. I think Higgins and Brian guided him downstairs immediately.
As an ER nurse for 20 years, worked in the ER since 1999 i can tell you I've seen car vs pedestrian accidents, dog bites, and people beat up and die from head injuries. John's injuries did not match car vs pedestrian crash. No road rash, no fractures, nothing. Dogs do often bite one limb and they tear or lacerate. Some are deeper than others. And, I don't think John was hit once. I truly believe he was punched or hit in the face a couple of times, fell back struck his head on something hard and created the fracture in the back. The brusing was not typical racoon eyes, general it doesn't involve swelling of the eyes with an injury in the back of the head. It will bruise, not swell. The orbital fractures are from getting punched in the face and same with the swelling.
@@RozeechildRN I 100% agree with you
I believe I know why Higgins' Jeep was such a big deal! He showed major stress indicators each time it came up. It was likely because he lied about stopping to switch cars before going out drinking & about why he stopped at the station after the party. He actually drove his work vehicle to the bars and the party - not his personal vehicle. He didn't want it known because drunk driving in a work vehicle is strictly prohibited.
Absolutely correct on what they did to John. 😢
Is driving a jeep with a snow plow affixed permanently to the front macho, as going out in a blizzard in a hoodie seems to be in the North East?!!?!?
Thank you for your insight
Auntie Bev: "You won't be getting transcripts or read backs because we've been doing it this way for a hundred years. Now, get out your chisels and rock tablets and take exceptional notes." (Allegedly.)
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
I really hope the defense submits motions to get rid of that judge because the way she did this trial was so biased and made it hard for Karen to get a non-guilty verdict
They already have motioned for her to recuse herself…..she refused
Unfortunately, this would delay trial by a period of time (months/a year?). KR has endured so much. I can understand why she would want to expedite matters. As Andrea Burkhart explicates - KR is being punished by the legal process.
I heard that microdots aren’t being paid for their work they wanted to do it because he was a friend of johns back in the day and wanted the case to be solved properly
On their CZcams videos it states tgeya?re not paid by anyone, simply doing their duty to serve justice.
It doesn't matter what the defense told the jury at that point. I think that some jurors had their minds made up before deliberation. Alan Jackson did a superb closing and only had an hour.
This trial is out of Bev league. She has the guts to let the world know she's frustrated and tired, want to go home by 4, but she do nothing to help the jury get through the gridlock. Can she at least revisit her word salad insturction!?
So true!
WAY out of her league and it showed every single day!
So many days off and short days…wish my job had those hours. I get jurors may have appts and that’s to be respected, but it happened so frequently. Having several out of town attorneys sitting there daily is quite the expense and the cost a normal person cannot afford.
She should be replaced she is Corrupted
The jury was kneecapped by the judge.
Don’t forget our Current Gov. was the AG while Norfolk county went rogue. She appointed the Commander of MSP. She is in the dirt up to her necks
When she was the AG, she investigated the overtime scandal. Which ended up with the state closing down an entire troop.
You can’t appoint ex lovers to the judiciary and then complain about the State of the legal system. Old boy network alive and well in the old Girl department. Time to elect those who didn’t learn everything they know by growing up and growing old in “ elected” office. New blood brings fresh air
I've held the position that in fact it's the Governor who has her foot on Bev's neck to get a conviction hence making all the mess disappear
They have no read back on purpose because then they would see that Lally twisted the truth and even lied and closing arguments
Thank you for continuing to discuss this disturbing scenario. I find myself feeling so much angst for Karen. I try to comprehend going
Thru such a cruel trial where predators are within arms reach of her! It really felt like Salem
Witch all
Over again the way the people
Of that court placed Karen center room and surrounded by monsters. How the heck is she that strong. Need you all here. Thanks again Melanie.
She has a strong support network. Her hugging her father after the ridiculous outcome was so heart-warming. I doubt anyone could survive such a malicious prosecution without strong personal support.
Corrupt union regarding the private texts - where is the FBI
In addition, the jurors even said their differences had nothing to do with not understanding the evidence, but disagreement of each person's view. It appears it was more of people's PERSONAL convictions. But it should be about the evidence!
Right! I find that absolutely frightening. Like people have been saying, Karen could be any one of us and we could be falsely convicted because of a juror and their ‘feels’?? 😳
@@kasarija I agree! But honestly, I wish the judge would advise in common English and not Legal Jargon that if you find the plaintiff innocent of not hitting John O'Keefe, it is a NOT guilty and the other charges do not matter. But I do believe there was a lawyer on the jury, so he or she might have explained that. It's really disturbing that people are judging on their personal convictions and not the evidence and having few jury members dismissed did not help.
In the instructions to the jury for rendering a verdict, there was one thing I hadn’t heard anywhere else.
It was “to the highest degree of moral certainty” as well as “beyond a reasonable doubt” the jury leaned into that moral certainty
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@hopeflorence6748 -- One may inquire, what morals?!
When they claimed that OJO Apple health data showed climbing stairs but it was really from driving up/ downhill - I wondered why they didn't check Karen's Apple health data to see if her data showed the same.
That is such a good point!
It doesn’t matter because it does not and has never worked that way. They just made that claim because they knew the boomers on the jury would buy it.
The FBI should be investigating tampering with the jurors, getting rid of pro Karen because they were watching their facial expressions and probably going through their notepads as well
@@Breezy1702 got proof?
I think so as well
and the state troopers a in charge of the Jury 😂😂😂I mean come on.
I don’t believe there was any jury tampering.
Absolutely not any truth to this at all. They can’t touch those note pads & are all under camera surveillance at all times. Now you’re trying to say the entire court house & operations would be in on the collusion. Ridiculous
I asked mark bederow earlier on twitter if he would defend karen read at her retrial and he said OF COURSE? That would be amazing to see this happen 🙏
I’m hearing Proctor’s new assignment involves locating Chloe’? I’m not holding my breath.
Either that or his bitch at home!
Someone give him a shovel because she's in the Albert's pool with all the bloody concrete from the basement floor.
😂😂
You’re right! They should have harped on the idea that there were NO BRUISES! If he wasn’t hit by a car, you must acquit!!
Could mean he died very soon after being struck by the car too.
No that was covered..bruising would still be evident just differ in color @bari2883
@@heatherhapgood6235 really I’ve just been researching it now and it says that if the person does instantly then no bruising occurs.
Remember Green said some of KR's locations were deleted from her phone in April of 22. It was in police custody at that time.
I love Mark too ♥️ but how dare he be doing lawyer stuff when we need him ??? Geeezzz 🤣🤣
Praying he wins his case!!
This was an excellent discussion, thanks Melanie and Allie!
Mark Bederow is great. Thank you to all the creators who have brought him to our attention
Just because the SUV was seen brought into the Sally Port at 530 doesn't mean the SUV arrived in Canton at 530. It could've made a quick trip to Fairview
It wasn't brought in at 5:30. That was a lie Proctor put on his reports.
Replay crew! Im so sad i missed this live, love you two together! 😍
The judge needs to take some psychology classes. She has no clue about butting in and problems it causes such as asking her own questions of a witness after an objection during cross examination. Also splitting jury deliberations into small increments of time. The jurors barely got their food in the fridge before they were going home.
She knows what she is doing. The judge and prosecutor have pulled every single dirty trick they knew during this trial.
I had hopes during this trial people would point out the kind of crap judges and prosecutors pull. So maybe, just maybe public pressure could be put on our justice system to clean it up.
Instead morons just spent the trial laughing. We get the country we deserve. We get the justice system we deserve. And lastly we get the law enforcement we deserve.
Its okay, y'all...he can get a job delivering pizzas at D&E with all his butt dialing buddies.
@@janai5074 🤣🤣🤣🤣
wolfe was an expert on Toyota data.. and Lally screamed for side bar... so he wasnt allowed to talk about that!!!
Microdots is amazing
Microdots is an Amazing Artist.. his 2 new videos today are just wow. wow wow 🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩
Melanie and Mark should have their own show on Court TV. 🙏💜
Yes a show together would be great but not court tv. They are doing sketchy things.
Court TV is a joke now.
They are doing great on CZcams 😊
Melanie and mark are the perfect combo 😇
So, they don't condone Proctor's potty mouth, but had no public criticism of his discussing investigation details with the public in his "private text messages," his failure to interview the only witness who paid attention to the lawn in question for more than a year, his perjury to the grand jury regarding his relationship with the McAlberts, his violation of Karen's 4th Amendment right to freedom from improper search and seizure, his failure to seek out any camera footage from any homes or businesses on Karen's route of travel following the alleged collision with John, his failure to maintain a proper chain of custody for John's clothing, his failure to photograph the vehicle prior to taking possession of it, his emotional bias and tunnel vision while investigating John's death, or his failure to interview any witnesses according to procedural guidelines or record said interviews. But thank God his potty mouth isn't condoned!
Right! The list goes on and on!
What is also funny is that they said that Karen kept on saying that she did it but there’s no recorded Evidence to prove it
In other words they should have recorded it…
Hmm could it also be that Trooper Proctor didn’t do his job at all…
This was a fabulous, smart show. As a retired lawyer of 33 years of civil trial practice, I loved seeing two smart, ethical, and fun women breakdown this case. I have a crush on Mark Bederow too! Perhaps all 3 of you should get together for a panel show! Thanks for supporting Karen Read in her constant womanhoid battle of how she looks and smiles! It’s the 21st Century! I thought we had evolved beyond that!
“womanhood”
Love Mark Bederow. I would hire him in “ a New York minute”. Hahaha 😆
As a English guy (in the UK) I am very depressed by the attacks on KR (e.g. clothes, smiles, laughing, smug look comments etc.) and I completely agree. I thought we had evolved beyond those infuriating comments as well. KR is very impressive (English understatement) - I doubt if I would have survived what she has endured. with the medical issues, the lost of a partner, the malicious prosecution and the endless smears especially by Proctor and Jennifer McCabe. I am relieved she has strong support. It was wonderfully heart warming to watch her hugging her father after the hung jury - an island of humanity in a very ugly setting.
Saturday I went to my craft room and I got dizzy and. Fell. I shattered my ankle and broke my leg. I am waiting for a ride to a nursing home. I am supposed to have surgery next Thursday.
Pam (from Rochester NY)
So sorry to hear that Pam. Sending you healing vibes. Get better soon 🇬🇧
I'm so sorry to hear that Pam. 😢 Get well soon. ❤
Melanie and Ali, i just love your discussions.
Curious. Are the FEDS laughing or crying that there are some jurors who didn’t believe their top notch scientist??? 🤔
They weren’t the FBI’s people. They work for Arcca, a consulting company hired by the FBI to do the collision reconstruction.
Can u imagine the convo in their offices?? The language would be...colourful
John's phone, lying perfectly underneath his body. Not possible if he was hit with Karen's car.
Why so?? How would you know that it can’t be under him if he was hit by Karen’s car?
@dudemorris7769 -- SIMPLE PHYSICS, my dude. 🙄
@dudemorris7769 So you know that "formula" trooper Paul came up with? If you follow that formula, the phone would end up at a different place. Ofc if you use real physics, it would be irrelevant where the phone landed because the car didn't hit him.
Even John lying flat, is unrealistic , 8f hit by a car his body would bot fly in the air and land flat. He would be crumpled.or twisted.
Possible but not likely, the glass was also under him, even more unlikely.
How do you ignore Wolf and Wrenchler? Russel, two ME's from CW, Irish ME from California with 12000 autopsies?
It can’t be true because you have to say that she actually hit John with the car
Proctor needs to learn “do you want fries w that order?” For his new job. How does the American public get him OUT of any LE position?
Regardless who was at closing or if they felt Karen was guilty , they had the duty of a citizen TO FOLLOW THE LAW. ? Many times after a trial is over jurors say “ I didn’t think the defendant acted like they should have ? To heck with evidence?
Thank you!
That whole conversation about the fake photo is just annoying. Real or not it’s irrelevant to anything. And it’s fake.
Do you know if news nation debunked it ? I can't find the vdeo.
@@frodosdojo I don’t know about News Nation. I debunked it for myself. 😎
I respect the fact that you stuck to your convictions from the start, and you were not a flip-flopper like so many others, people lie science doesn't❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You and Ali are great together! ❤️
I’m not a Lawyer but I would walk in and demand a speedy trial.
Nah, I'd chill and wait for the FBI to finish their investigation. It's not done yet. I genuinely can't imagine why the CW would continue with a trial when an internal investigation officially determines that OJO could not have been hit by an SUV.
@@emmyfrost6433 Because if they admit that they'd have to publicly admit Karen Read is innocent and was framed.
I don't know if you know this but our government loves covering up corruption rather than doing anything about it. It's been that way since long before any of us was alive. It will be that way long after we're all dead and gone.
For many reasons you never see a homicide detective go to prison for anything short of murder. Because they can walk into a prosecutors office and threaten to start writing affidavits about all times they've committed misconduct or seen other detectives commit misconduct. The last thing any DA's office wants is a scandal that jeopardizes past convictions.
Even the homicide detectives that get "prosecuted" get a minor slap on the wrist and go on with their lives like nothing happened.
It will be that way as long as the public keeps buying into all the gaslighting and lies that surround a case like this. Which since people never change means this is just how it's always going to be.
There's always big promises of consequences and justice that just never comes. Even if they have to sacrifice someone like Proctor. Everyone else gets away with it. Because the public has too short of an attention span and too short of a memory to actually hold elected officials accountable.
If Bev was honest lmao.. she would have recused herself just for the appearance of impropriety. If bev was honestly a gatekeeper she wouldnt allow inversed video, honest bev would've allowed all the 3rd party FBI info because it had 0 favor to defense or prosecution. Ay wey
Thank you, @Attorney Melanie Little 🌟🩵🌟 You always bring it... Almost 60K🎉 👍🩵🔔
Great Panel Guest Today!
@Mark Bederow 👀⚖️Congratulations on your case win‼️
I would love to see attorney Mark bederow defend karen read at her retrial as he would be absolutely fkn amazing 👏
Def sue Procter for sexual harassment. Atty Aldridge would have a field day
I Blame Bev she absolutely did not give this jury proper instruction! She acted as if everyone knows what the law is she did a dismal job at the only job she had! It’s a travesty to think she will over see any trial of this magnitude every again!
I HIT HIM X3 was all lies? It was never mentioned on 1 report, and something like that would've been clearly DOCUMENTED IF TRUE?
Yes. Any cop on the scene at the time would be falling over themselves to document that, it’s a dream come true slam dunk case to them at that point. They would never ignore such a statement. It would be all over Proctors texts too.
I can testify to accidental inappropriate touches. LOL I met NASCAR driver Denny Hamlin before a race in Phoenix. In prep for a photo he put his arm around me. When I went to put my arm around him my hand landed directly on his butt. Totally unintentional! LOL It was a hysterical moment and we both cracked up and joked about it. I was mortified, but he was so kind and funny. When you're grabbing someone quickly misplaced hands happens.
Here’s the worst case scenario: the jury got confused with the updated instructions and discarded the previous forms thinking the new one is the only one they would need. It seems unlikely to me, but Bev never clarified that those two other verdict forms were still in play and she was just correcting one.
I don’t watch mainstream television for anything, but Vinnie P has lost all credibility over this case
I briefly watched a clip and it was laughable as it was obviously they barely watched trial
Agree
I watched every moment of trial and at least 4 creators each night recapping and I never caught the defense cross about the key cycles being at a different time 😮 Ali always coming in with different points 👏
I saw Alison Motto in Omaha for the Anthony Garcia trial. I sat in on the trial for one day and followed that case closely.
Pressure from the house families
50.00 DKK is $7.23 lol ...if karen was found guilty proctor would've gotten a slap on the wrist? That's why they waited until after trial to SPEAK?
Hi Melanie and Ali thank You both so much for Your coverage of this Case. Also a shoutout to Mark Bederow and Bob Motta. Melanie the Dog Trainer who was on Your show and I apologize for not recalling His name right now, He did a Live a few days ago referencing being on Your show and indeed opined those injuries to be Dog Bites. He went on to say that normally He does not fo these types of things however after being on Your show He was riveted. Yes I follow Sean M too. As offered by Collier Landry "If Chloe Bit You must acquit" LMFAO. I opine the only thing Karen is Guilty of was telling Higgins He was Hot. LMFAO😂😂😂
I appreciate this discussion with your guest. Smart woman!
DA Meatball Morrisey is ill fated if he choses to proceed with this case, he has much bigger problems, the conviction of Karen Read is the least of his problems, his world is about to crash down!
Yes, there is something really creepy about him.
Nope. He’s a Massachusetts Democrat too.
Subscribed! Done and done! So glad I found you two!
You are the Best ♥️
Thank you beautiful
Going back to my drinking days, if it wasn't an alcoholic beverage being served, like water, it would usually be served in a larger glass. BTW, Ashley Banfield will say anything for clicks and views. I lost a lot of respect for her when she interviewed the mother of one of the Idaho 4 victims, a mother with a drug addiction, on her show. It was obnoxious.
I also heard no staw polls from the Judge to the Jury.
I was happy to hear AJ a texan though his practice in ca. We claim him, hes a bada**, once a texan always a texan
@Alilaw was referring to the video made by @azget with the key cycles. Great show, you two are BRILLIANT together.
Love ya, Mods. Love ya, Melanie!
Love ya Kay! ❤️
Bederow was right. Proctor is done.
CBS Boston has an interview with Paul OKeefe, I can’t post the link for some reason. It’s sad that he can’t see what the evidence showed.
He stated he told Karen this is not over.
Why aren’t they talking about all the evidence that wasn’t collected correctly, no chain of evidence, and sat for over a year? That’s what the case needs to be tossed on. Never should have been allowed.
Easy, it’s standard practice. What else can we assume?
I do not recall the “official” 911 call being played in court and I was watching specifically for it!
It was played a couple times, but I think it was towards the end of the prosecution maybe
@@daniellle4270 Daniellle are we talking about the same thing? I am not talking about what was heard of Jen talking to 911 through Karen’s phone that was left in the back seat of the car. I am talking about the “official” 911 call that would have been recorded from the dispatch centre and would have been very clear and easy to hear what was said. I do not believe that call was heard in court. If some one knows of exactly when it was entered into testimony please point out which day and which witness and I will stand corrected!
@@josephsisson oh no, you are correct! I think we overheard it from the phone!
Melanie, I just realized I hadn't subbed yet. Your coverage is great especially w Mark B. Glad to know your knowledge of case Is so deep.
They couldn’t even take their notes in these deliberations either
They should be able to review testimony on tape.
Then wha's the point of taking notes ?
Rehomed 😂😂😂
So Colonel Mawn basically said they were waiting to see the outcome of the case before they took action against Proctor?? Does that mean if KR had been convicted, he’d still be a homicide detective? Unbelievable.
Ladies, do you think that Jackson will be that bold? Enough to do that in public people would do anything to destroy people lives.
Proctor-Re-Homed!! Hilarious!!😂😅
One hour was not enough to give to closing arguments
I had to rewatch all of it to remember just how powerful the evidence was for overwhelming reasonable doubt on all charges. If Karen were drunk how did she make it home in 5 minutes perfectly and not get pulled over when cops were everywhere due to the “blizzard”? Paul o keefe said he knew Karen was guilty bc she didn’t really have a reaction when she was at the house with her dad upstairs? She was in a complete state of shock and no doubt she was feeling all the craziness at the scene how Jenn wouldn’t come out of her car ( you can call 911 while helping with cpr!) and how Brian remained in the house and so much more.
Grew up near the ocean, later on as an adult had a place on the beach. Miss it!!
Two of my favorite women! 🎉
I thought the first charge was edited to include the lesser charges? Am I confused? If they say not guilty on the first charge then they should all be not guilty; She was not hit by a car!
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You're a beautiful soul your channel is so insightful
They did not play the 911. They play KR voice recordings to John.
The CW counted on all the confusion for a lay person it was indeed confusing
SHAME on Alison for breathing ANY credibility into that obvious deep fake photo!! SHAME. SHAME. SHAME. 🔔
One of the crash daddy’s was to talk about the key cycles but was not allowed to. Jackson started and Lally objected Bev sustained
I’m sooooo looking forward to your deep dive into Sandra birchmore
I can’t believe the jury hung. It makes me wonder what they heard that I didn’t to sway me to Guilty. Open and shut case
How can you get read back?
When the police didn't even do reports on some of the stuff.
Read back = what was testified to in court. Has nothing to do with the lack of reports completed by Canton PD.
3 am in NZ I needed sleep.... I have always said I wouldnt put my future in the hands of 12 loonies.. give me a judge who has to go on the law.. not on emotions... if it was a lawsuit where there was a payout, and a jury would give more due to emotions of the case... then go jury
I agree. I’m afraid of uneducated people who don’t understand how important science is.
@@bettycattk5298 all of those too busy playing in lallys bucked of poop
Girl I have been waiting for your insight!
If he talks about women like that imagine what he does when he gets in an argument with his own wife. This is his personality not just a one time thing because of the Karen Read trial.
Proctor’s wife should dump him. He sounds like a complete idiot.
A talking head, LA public defender, on Court TV actually said that all policemen talk like Proctor privately, that he just never thought that they would get his private phone. I can’t believe it.
The O J trial turned on a dime when a documentary writer threw Mark Furman under the bus. Everyone acted like what he said was extraordinary, and that was at least 30 years ago.
I don’t believe that most policemen are that crude and stupid.
Makes you wonder how many phones they search for sexual photos etc. Creepy
Great show ladies ❤
Pink for Proctor's wife = . LET US FOREVER FREE KAREN READ
Replay crew. So glad you did some seaside time. Love hearing your cheery good morning. Tropical storm Boryl heading toward us in South Texas. Rain maker.
No common sense in this trial
We adore Ali and Bob, always. Jay too.