Samsung OLED G8 vs Alienware AW3423DW vs MSI MEG 342C vs Alienware AW3423DWF
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00:00 - Intro
01:04 - Design
06:11 - Screen Coating, Subpixel Layout and Burn In
09:33 - Motion Performance
10:53 - Color Performance
13:12 - Brightness, Contrast, Uniformity
14:04 - HDR Performance
17:09 - Final Thoughts
Samsung OLED G8 vs Alienware AW3423DW vs MSI MEG 342C vs Alienware AW3423DWF
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The battle we've all been waiting for. Where my DWF bois at?
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Have they fixed the broken HDR yet?
Here
I heard the recent firmware update on the AW3423DWF didn't fix the HDR issues and that's a solid no considering that's a major selling point of these QD-Oled's..
Also 165hz rather than 175hz like the other's
@@mrwalker6026slightly inaccurate EOTF tracking =/= "broken" saving 200$ over the DW and the ability to do firmware updates feels worth it
I got my AW3423DWF yesterday and im blown away. I don't even notice the color fringing. In games i also noticed much more detail that i never saw before. So im really happy with it.
I also got mine yesterday and I am blown away ,worth every penny
Did u notice any coilwhine? That is still the only thing that makes me not buying that monitor.
Don't forget to drop back in after the image retention starts to be annoying. And do write down how long you use it and for what app/game at a time.
Like Day 1, played game 1 for x hours. game 2 for y hours, game 3 for z hours...etc..
Cheers
edit: The QD oled is the worst possible tech of oled as you can confirm by the latest Rtings info. The image retention is quick to appear and even with those reset steps to help it out, it still loses quite fast to the image retention / burn in.
@@Reeezeful no the monitor makes 0 sound
@@tommyb6611 I wish there won't be any as I do the refresh every 4 hours and use around 50% brightness I find more than that too much but even if burn in appears I will get a new panel from Dell.I use it around 8 hours per day btw
I was just looking for a proper comparison last night, Good job guys!
Awesome video and analysis for the topic. Gearing up to get one soon. Stuck between the DWF and MSI
This is top quality content. Thanks Tim.
Great video thanks for the 4 way comparison, please do more of this when it is warranted
Thank you for the great review Monitors Unboxed.
Such a helpful video mate, cheers!!
I got my G8 yesterday. I upgraded from 2560 X 1080 LG IPS 65 Hz monitor, and I am absolutely floored by it. Insanely buttery smooth, and colours so vivid it feels like I was using a gray-scale monitor by comparison. Not much brighter than my previous monitor at 100% but smaller areas are crazy bright. The black is almost disconcertingly so
100% brightness?
Do you want to synthesize vitamin D without going outside? =)
Can you turn off the LED ring on the back? What’s the point of it?
@@Luke-ih1oc yes you can
I have the g8 oled too, it really is fantastic!
Why do you put me to buy the Gsync if I have AMD GPU and force me to buy the Freesync if I have NVIDIA, PLEASE, somebody EXPLAIN!!!
4 ultrawide OLED monitors to choose from, what a time to be alive
… but still no 32” 4K model in sight 😕
Can't afford none
one panel
@@DariusPL you can get a 40in 4k ultrawide aka 5120x2160 but the max refresh rate on that tops out at 72Hz
@@oumakavoula This right here. We won't have true competition until multiple 34" OLED or just truly HDR panels are available.
Thanks for this analysis, and all the others. Top notch content sir!
Amazing review as always! Best channel to check monitor's info
of all the things to watch out for when buying a monitor....I never thought fan noise would be one of them
For anyone trying to decide I can at least speak to the OLED G8 a little. I've owned 3 of them now (in an attempt to resolve issues with each) and whilst the monitor is generally excellent I'm not sure I'd buy it in its current state. I won't talk about the monitor's positives because I feel the review already covers those.
My first one has the bug where the volume increases by 1 every couple of hours. It also has a bug where it wouldn't detect a DP signal when turned on. So to be clear on steps: If I shutdown my computer and turn the monitor off with the power button on the remote, then turn the PC and monitor on (order doesn't matter) it won't detect a DP signal. To fix this I have to change the input to something else entirely, wait 15s for the monitor to say there isn't an input detected, then flick back to DP. I sent it back hoping both issues would be resolved.
My second monitor did NOT have the volume bug, which is great. However, it also has the issues with DP signal. At this point I tried a HDMI 2.1 cable instead. HDMI does not have the wake up bug but on the latest Nvidia drivers it has an even worse issue where the screen goes black for 1-2 seconds every few minutes when playing games. This issue doesn't occur if you use an older Nvidia driver and set the panel colour to 12 bit (even though it doesn't support 12 bit). This is an unacceptable compromise to me because I'm often playing newest releases that require the latest Nvidia drivers, so I sent it back.
My third monitor also doesn't have the volume bug which is leading me to believe this was fixed on later monitor revisions, though it could just be luck of the draw. However, this monitor unfortunately also the same issues described above regarding DP signal and HDMI blackouts.
Overall it's a real shame because these little issues are tarnishing what would be an otherwise absolutely excellent monitor.
Got an G8 oled, and none of the issues above. I'm glad I bought it.
For mey r bit to big so I'm waiting for the 27 inch Asus OLED monitor 1440p with built in heat sink
Typical Samsung, I simply don’t trust that company anymore after my “adventures” with their devices, both home appliances and consumer electronics.
@Dariusz Stachera I know everyone's rage boner is hard against samsung but I had the EXACT same issues with the Alienware DW.
@@AdiiS fake samsung troll. once you buy a samsung monitor, you swear not to buy any again
Thanks for the review :) I've been watching all of your video on Oled starting with the oldest and now I've a great overview of the market, that is really helpfull.
I think I'll be waiting for the Gen2 panel in 2024 else the G8 here is the cheapest of all at 999,90€ VAT included.
OMG! This is the best review ever! Congrats!
I am very pleased with my DWF but I use it in true black setting with contrast having to be above 80% to achieve a proper punch. I see in many guides that around 67% is the best but it provides a more bland picture.
Tim - have you tried the game hdr setting for the dw or the dwf? The 1000 peak mode, despite the quick fixes, still has some washed out coloration for me, so I've been using the game hdr setting and I find it quite good. I'm surprised I haven't seen or read much about it, only the true black or the 1000 peak. Thanks!
a top review thanks for the time and details
really good review, people who want the best needed this.
Never been this excited for the MSI monitor.
Oled? check. KVM (switch personal vs work laptop)? check. USB-C Alt (display-port + PD charging)? check. HDMI 2.1 (for console and TV stick)? check.
1000 nits HDR? check.
I think screen performance is like cpu silicon lottery, hopefully it won't be too bad. but the rest of the features are what I need!
I recently bought the G8 OLED after watching this review and monitoring the price for a while (pun not intended).
Price dropped, bought the monitor and I admit, it looked incredible. For the 3 minutes I used it anyway. The unit I bought had the most intrusive "coil whine" i've ever heard, slicing through my head with different levels of amplitude and frequency depending on what was sat in the middle of the screen. So just a small warning to anyone buying one, if this happens to you - RMA it immediately.
Did you notice color fringing on text? I need a monitor for productivity too and not just gaming.
I've heard about this and it is strange. I recently bought one and it is completely silent. Looks like Samsung quality control is at it again.
My goodness that B-roll you had at 20:48 where the RTX 4080 on the monitor is scrolling across at the same pace as the camera satisfied my OCD to a degree not many things have...
Thank you so much for your honesty. No one else talk about the sub rgb.
Thank you for the in depth monitor reviews 👏 When possible, please review the Philips Evnia 34M2C8600 and the LG 45GR95QE-B.
the DWF had a firmware update earlier this month (June 2023) that fixes the HDR color accuracy.
Great!
Just what I needed!
Great content I needed.
I've had the Alienware AW3423DW for a few months now and just absolutely love it. The amount of detail and clarity you get just blows LCD displays out of the water.
same.. had to return mine it coz the amazon seller I bought it from was selling it as a brand new, but it was an obvious refurb. Now I'm torn between the DW and the MSI. I really want that MSI's RBG on the front but the DW HDR performance. I don't care about the stand as I'll use VESA anyway.
Why do you put me to buy the Gsync if I have AMD GPU and force me to buy the Freesync if I have NVIDIA, PLEASE, somebody EXPLAIN!!!
Do you notice any VRR flicker? My AW3423DW flickers every few minutes which can be quite annoying, I'm trying to just ignore it seeing as otherwise its a flawless monitor.....0 image retention after a few months worth of use and 0 fan noise it's just literally a milisecond flicker every so often but it can get pretty annoying when looking for it, tried turning G-sync off, different HDR modes, turning VRR off in windows....nothing seems to get rid of it :(
@@dp5559 i believe that's the pixel shift. I could see it too but didn't bother me much.
Can you share what settings you use / what modes you use it in? I just picked my DW up and want to make it look as vibrant as possible and the blacks as deep as possible
I've been really tempted to jump in and get the DWF. Not sure though I'm leaning towards waiting for a second generation of OLED monitors before jumping in.
i wouldn't. The HDR issues I've been hearing about are not worth it. I'd go either for the DW or then the MSI.
@@Hikari_Sakurai Can you tell why the DW should be the better choice over the newer, cheaper and also upgradeable DWF?
I think in ways that this review is a little bias. The DW is ridiculous with the G-Sync Ultimate! The HDR is on a completely different level. However, if you’re on console, don’t bother with it with not having HDMI 2.1. You will only be able to play at 100 FPS with the HDMI 2.0 and won’t get the 175 FPS as a PC with DisplayPort. To each their own but the DW is a beast and the extra $200 for their G-Sync Ultimate is where it’s at!
Very well done. Thank you.
Thanks Tim!!!
This is the video we've all been waiting for
True that true that
Yeah, 4 of the best OLED monitors
Came here to say this.
@@smurray711 hi Brother
Maybe it's just down to my individual setup/settings, but ever since I upgraded from a 2070 Super to a 6800 XT with the AW3423DW, I don't think adaptive sync is working fine nor properly. In most games at startup, the screen will flicker, the framerate starts quite low (say around 15-20) and would gradually go up to the max the system can in a span of a minute or two. In other games, espcially Fortnite, they would simply just crash after a while and will continue crashing until I disable adaptive sync, then it's fine. Also, there's a weird quirk (for lack of a better term) where I don't have the option to select a standard 16:9 1440p resolution without adding a custom resolution in the Adrenalin software.
Great content as always - any plans to review the Philips Evnia 34M2C8600?
Thank you very much!
I bought the Samsung OLED G8 (after watching this awesole video!), I don't want a noisy Monitor. (Tried the first Alienware monitor when it released)
So far I'm really happy with it.
I did not even bother to connect the monitor to the internet (and will not do it till I may need a firmware update)
It is the best looking monitor I had so far.
Connectivity is really weak on this one at least when it comes to USB extra ports. (and micro hdmi is anyoing)
They also got some problems where sometimes a rainbow line appears on the bottom but thats fixable with software.
So in the end I will probably keep it unless more problems start to appear, pretty happy about the image quality but it had some other (solveable) problems that such an expensive monitor should not have imho.
Samsung has a massive advantage on availability. Outside EU and US, it really get's harder and harder to get the Dell, but Samsung has such an amount of worldwide significance than even smaller, third world countries get to see the G8 OLED. And so I bought it because importing the Dell here would be insane cost wise.
On the same boat as you brother. There was only one piece available in the country and I nicked it faster than a rabbit caught in heat. Yet to unbox it though, excited!
G8 OLED is the best one anyway. The featureset and build quality is robust af compared to the others. And it doesn't lag behind all too significantly in any one of the other relevant aspects, the only impediment is its appalling AMD underperformance, I really hope it's possible for AMD to remedy this driver side.
Omg yes just what I needed 😍
Thanks!
I got my dw back in May of last year. It's been awesome and have tons of hours on it. The only issue is the annoying oled refresh pop-up comes up while gaming, horrendous when playing a fps shooter. I even told it to not pop up anymore but it still does
You can disable it, it should not pop up again. Make sure you watch the video on how to do it.
Heard that the AW3423DWF just got a serious update regarding HDR this week. Can you revisit the update and tell if all the issues have been solved? Also I am looking to buy a new gaming monitor, can you compare the AW3423DWF with the new update vs the Samsung OLED G8?
Thats awasome rewiev. Thanks bro
Thanks 🙏 u make a right review for me to choose . GG
nice but I'm still waiting for a monitor that can do both hdr and not have broken text clarity in ultrawide format.
Got my DWF two weeks ago and since I use it a lot for desktop work, the warranty from Dell can be a bit more reassuring. The feedback from Reddit seems to indicate that replacements are likely to be refurbed units so fingers crossed.
Not taking my chances tho. I’m using black backgrounds and hiding taskbars/desktop icons in Windows, menu bars and docks in Mac.
I use an Nvidia gaming laptop so the HDR1000 mode hack isn’t terrible for now. Hope Dell does fix it.
And with my luck, in Australia, JB HiFi just discounted the DW to basically the same price as the DWF from Dell. And Samsung just dropped the price of the OLED G8 here so it’s cheaper than the DW from JB. With that said, the DWF with the discounts from OzBargain was still slightly cheaper. And I’d still take the DWF for the warranty and full sized ports anyway.
Oh. And for PS5 users, despite only having HDMI 2.0, in Console Mode, I’m able to accept 1440p 60/120 HDR VRR. I was waiting for the MSI originally but I don’t think HDMI 2.1 is needed in this case since the PS5 is able to take full advantage of the monitor (sans 21:9 support)
When you connect the PS5 can you play it in 16:9 resolution with black bars at the side or does it stretch everything to fit the monitor?
@@DaSourOrange there is a zoom mode. You can leave 2560x1440 in 16:9 mode and have borders on the side or you can stretch it to fill 21:9 where everyone looks short and fat.
how are you finding the text clarity and productivity usage?
@@Cunny000 on Windows, image scaling works well. On Mac.. bit of hit and miss since MacOS doesn't see UW 1440p as a HiDPI display
If playing on pc, does this affect fps? For example, warzone 2 ?
@@doggiehowzer
Hey great video! How are the dead pixel policy on Alienware monitors?
Nice review!!
As Monitor technology has moved on you would think you could have the image all the way to the very edge of the screen instead of thin black bars.
I personally can’t stand the silver bezel surround on the G8. Like playing a game in a picture frame. Went with the DW as gotta support the OG and I still like having the g-sync ultimate module. 😊
Also I’m not forgetting the general QC issues that Samsung have had for years now, my last TV from them developed a cluster of stuck pixels, my partners Samsung flip phone broke within 3 months and my G8 not OLED got returned as it was so wobbly I couldn’t use it, Alienware and Dell in general are solid products with excellent QC and warranty. I expect what ever comes next from LG will also be excellent as I’m now on my third LG OLED and I’ve never had a single issue (apart from the icons rubbing off the remotes within 12 months).
Why the DW instead of the DWF? ...hmm.. the DW has an extra 5 ms of latency caused by the g-sync module...although the DW has better has better hdr eotf tracking compared to the DWF.
great video. thanks
Thanks for this video! Like many others, this is exactly the video I'd been waiting for. I was largely waiting for the Samsung, but have been worried about bad reviews from buyers on the Samsung product page.
My concern is the freaking Smart tv stuff in it.
@@mukkaar I ended up buying the Samsung. The smart TV stuff is fine, EXCEPT it's much harder than it should be to simply switch inputs. As far as I can tell, the remote doesn't even have an input select button.
@@ericfallabel9201 I just think it's totally useless, you don't need it on pc. And consoles also work as streaming platforms. I just cannot find actual reason to include it on monitor.
What do you think about the g8 oled ? I am about to buy it and as you said there are few bad reviews on amazon! I would much appreciate your answer
Launch day AW3423DW owner here after using the monitor on a daily basis, 6-8 hours a day, I now have image retention of the Win10 taskbar at the bottom and it doesn't go away with pixel and panel refresh.
Did you contact Dell for the 3-year warranty service?
You should have enabled the option for the Taskbar to go away when you are not using it,I thought of the possibility of it happening to me some weeks before I bought the monitor and starting using that option.I hope mine won't face the same fate as yours
Why would you not hide the taskbar? That is the first thing I did when I got my DW.
I've had my DW since my last year and I haven't got any image retention yet but I hid the taskbar. Also, I use my monitor for about the same about of hours a day as you do.
@@kwstantinosnaoum3408 I actually use it more then 8 hours a day. I never hid Taskbar but I will now.
I can't understand why it's still being called "bad screen coating". That is one of my most favorite parts of that monitor since i DONT WANT an anti-glare coating that will just wash out all colors. I couldn't care less about reflections in my gaming room. It's just a matter of "what is right for you" and neither good nor bad and I would like to see a more neutral wording on that matter.
Loved the comparison though - still on the fence whether i wanna get the Alienware. The complains about coilwhine are just not stopping..
i would say the Alienware gets a bad wrap since the LG C2 coating is so good, i have both the AW3423DW and a 65 in C2, both are great but the alienware coating when in DIRECT sunlight/light ends up looking worse than the C2 but as long as its not directly in front they both look great.
I just got mine. Blown away and absolutely no noise from my monitor.
The coating is bad because it doesn't have a polarizer to limit light reflecting off the panel pixels, making contrast worse than 200 dollar ips monitor during daytime use, even if no light is directly on it. You want to use either of these panels close or in pitch black environment. If you want oled for the deep black, and plan to use it during daytime , then your options are LG tv or LG monitor. The monitor does not have a glossy finish .
@@sogetsu60 Thats quite exaggerated. I have the OLED G8 and to agree with you I would have to define "daytime use" as using it outdoors when sun is shining and "pitch black" as a room lit with some hue bulbs at 100% behind the monitor.
Yes, using a BenQ Screenbar or other lights in front of and shining towards the screen does noticeably raise black levels, maybe even more than my previous IPS monitor. But a normally lit room with no light sources directly in front of the monitor do not raise the black levels anywhere near best IPS levels for me.
I agree. Just get blackout curtains and turn off the lights and enjoy the monitor properly. It's better to control the light than try to fix it with some coating that will wash out the colors.
I love your videos man! Kudos. I need help with a question. I live in Chile and only the Samsung G8 is available here. I want to purchase it, to use it for gaming and work. I have a 240hz IPS monitor now and I switch inputs with a kvm switch.
If I connect a USB Hub to the upstream USB-C port of the G8, would I be able to use all my peripherals and switch work/ personal computers with a KVM?
Thanks!
@monitors unboxed I would LOVE to see a OLED 1440p vs. LCD 4k comparison on preferably a 27" or 32" display. What is percieved "crispness", other than deeper blacks for the OLED screen, is there a huge difference?
I have the DW and have a dead silent fan. Have never heard it. Having the best HDR performance for me was also a big deal for me so that’s why I went with it. Input lag has never bothered me and feels insanely smoother and snappier then my previous monitor anyway. I 90% of the time play single player games so I wouldn’t know if it impacts competitive gaming or not
this is what i needed to hear, thanks buddy. like you i play a lot of single player games and what you have said has made me pick which monitor to choose =)
I've got the dw too and also never hear the fan. Not sure if hub got a bad one, or we are just lucky !!
@@soulman434 well as with pretty much everything in the tech world that is mass produced, there is always going to be defective products. Also lots of companies with products that have fans in them can have fans from different manufacturers to keep up with demand and supply chains. Similar to how the PS5 has several different sub models with different fans from different brands with varying amounts of noise.
@maurice2428 yah I've been thinking it could be different fan makers etc . After the hub fan noise reports I've even tried listening right by the screen during a long hdr gaming session and still can't hear anything etc
I have one too and I have never heard my fan either. This guy just got a broken one I guess
the G8 amd hdr issue can be "fixed" by removing the Freesync range block via CRU, the monitor will fall back to Adaptive-sync VRR and use the regular HDR pipeline instead of freesync premium pro, allowing it to hit 1000 peak nits and have the possibility to enable HGIG (GameHDR), which was greyed out with freesync premium pro
Also with G8 oled you cam change peak brightness to high in picture and display settings using remote by default its at low or medium lol. I think it's so bright on high like looking at the sun
CRU? I would very mouch try this as I have this combo, could you explain more? Thank you
@@Z0ku custom resolution utility. its a program that will allow you to change things like refresh rate or freesync range.
@@Z0ku just as necrodead said, pick your monitor at the top there and then open the CTA-861 block that's under extension blocks, there should be a freesync range entry, delete it and then save everything and use the reset64 application bundled with cru to restart the gpu driver
Any idea if this also can be done for the DWF with an AMD GPU? He mentioned in his DWF firmware update vid that there was some "EDID metadata fix" via CRU that doesn't substantially improve anything on AMD, but he specifically called out that he'd like to hear if there was a way to get off of the FS2 HDR pipeline.
I'm not gonna complain about still getting food performance on true black mode, still plenty poppy for me, but it'd be nice to experience the full 1000 nits just to see what it's like.
This channel is simply fantastic.
Excellent analysis my friend! I was wondering if the "MEG 342C QD-OLED" It is compatible with Nvidia's G-SYNC since in the monitor's description they insist that AMD Radeon graphics is required to use the FreeSync Premium Pro technology...! Is this so? It wasn't supposed to be compatible today With new generation Nvidia graphics? Or are they simply referring to the fact that this technology cannot be fully exploited?
I hope you clarify my doubt please thank you!
Bought my Odyssey G8 last night impulsively for €799 and when I woke up it went back to €1059 everywhere 🙏😅
So the Samsung and the DWF are currently going for about the same price. What should I get? I've an Nvidia GPU.
Great review as always, but one aspect of the designs that I look at a lot are the dimensions of the stand. The Alienware stands are ridiculously deep at 12 inches, while the Samsung g8 has a compact depth of 7.6 inches. Not everyone has a desk deep enough to squeeze a 12 inch stand + keyboard and still be comfortable. This has been a significant issue with my AW3418DW (12.6" deep) and had to resort to a Vesa mount arm to get some room on my desk.
I just bought a AW3423DW today, excited to try it out tomorrow!!
Nine months later. What's the word on the monitor?
@@muckymucks absolute beast of a monitor, I have a tiny amount of burn In from playing a ridiculous amount of world of warcraft but it is only visible when doing a burn in test with a Grey screen, not visible during any other time, also has the 3 year warranty so I could trade it in after having it 2.5 years or something. The colours on it are so good
@@Tinto2 How about fan noise? I am thinking about getting one, but I get cold feet when I hear about fan noise, and the constant warning about refreshing the screen.
@@FearFrontierOFFICIAL fan noise not even noticeable, can hear it very occasionally it's not even close to the sound of a pc tower for example, the pop up to refresh the screen is annoying but you can turn it off completely 😊
@@Tinto2 Thank you for replying!
Got my Samsung OLED G8 today in AU for $400 less (RRP AU$1599). Blown away by this amazing monitor, loving it!!
Thats a good price, i bought a dwf direct from dell in December i asked for a discount on customer service and got it for $1600
How are you liking it after a couple of days? Any of the "common" issues? Can't make up my my mind between this and the DW
@@farxiyalehsan331 Mate, still loving it! The more you get to know it the more you love it. To be able to stream Netflix, CZcams or Amazon Prime on a fantastic near perfect OLED sceen during work breaks is just another level bliss!!! The speakers on it are quite competent too.
The only drawback is that the 175HZ can only be achieved either via Micro HDMI or DP ports and not USBC (I am actually surprised that USBC only supports 120HZ on this) whereas my laptop doesnt come with full sized DP.
@@owaisshariff Thanks for the response mate appreciate it. Looks like it comes down to $1500 after going through UniDays, seems like a solid price to grab it at. Fingers crossed mine doesn't show any of the issues that has affected the others!
@@farxiyalehsan331 The latest firmware upgrade seems to have solved those old timer issues...most of them were very minor ones anyway. For the wholesome functionality and experience that it delivers, I would say its a no brainer when compared to the DW which is noisy and seems like last gen esp with its port selection (no USBc and no charging port) and the GSync ultimate which no one really cares abt these days, GSync compatible is good enough for almost all of the modern games that we play these days + in some of the recent comparison videos, G8 OLED has hands down beaten the DW & DWF, here it one of the latest comparison:
czcams.com/video/aMa5mo-v_Aw/video.html&ab_channel=MonitorsUnboxed
How on earth do these companies get away with not calibrating these monitors before they leave the factory? After all, if I buy a new car, I do not expect that it will require tuning once I take possession of it.
Great video
Would've loved a comparison to the "Philips Evnia 34M2C8600".
It seems to have a fan, but can be disabled(?)
It has Ambiglow: never had it, so can't comment, but some truly love it
It's the only(!) monitor that has some form of blur-reduction tech (and yes, that is still a thing even with OLED monitors) as for instance PRAD found out.
To those interested the original AW3423DW recieved 3 different firmware variants depending on time of purchase..
You have firmware MB101
MB102
MB103
Each successive firmware fixed issue's the launch window one had..
If your buying an AW3423DW now it's not noisy or has intrusive pixel refresh messaging
MB105 and MB202 exist too.
@@ToTheDrill I know MB103 was November 2022 batch...
People gotta know they aren't getting the launch window issue's if they're buying now and it's literally been on sale regularly for around same cost as the newer 'F' model
Yeah, wanted to say that just received my dw, the firmware is mb202 not sure if it's documented anywhere though... Been wondering what's changed throughout these updates.
@@ihatedwang if you go on Dell's forum their service technicians can update firmware if your having any issue's..
Some users have had newer firmware installed on refurb's
Do you know if they fixed the fan curve? I had 102 and it was quiet the majority of the time but once in a while the fan would rev up and down constantly for like 15 minutes and then go quiet again.
After having the DWF for around a month or two, the biggest negatives for me personally have been the stand and the very faint coil whine that has developed recently. I suspect its something that might develop over time, and really only noticeable when the room gets more on the quiet side. The stand on the other hand prevents the monitor from being flush up against a wall and it causes everything to stick out way closer to the user than one would like. Its just obnoxious. Ended up tossing it back in the box in favor of a 3rd party solution, which is less than ideal.
do you happen to have your home screen completely black? (to void burn in)
Strange, I've never had sound issues with my DW (non F) and it should be worse than yours no? My CPU is liquid cooled and I have a 4070Ti which is a very quiet GPU as well so it's not like I wouldn't be able to notice.
@@cosmic_gate476 Some people can pick on certain pitches while others can't. For example, my wife can't hear it, but I can, even with ambient noise. It also likely depends on your monitor settings (cranking up the brightness with HDR and a higher refresh rate for example will generate more heat and use more power, thus increase the likelihood of hearing the coil whine).
Thats funny😂 i tossed my arm back in the box and preferred the stand purely cuz of looks😊
@@supanjibobu372 The looks are fine, the issue is how far it shoves the monitor out. Depending on desk width and location (up against wall for example), this becomes a problem.
Have you had any experience with the BenQ EX27/2310U? Neither you nor Rtings have talked about it as far as I've seen and all the reviews I see are not very thorough promo vids/articles. It'd be awesome to see a proper deep-dive into that thing because it really does look like an awesome monitor for mixed use but I don't want to buy into hype when deciding where $800 of my money should go.
I got the dwf today and it’s amazing!
I receive 4 may 😢
All of these seem great, but every one of them have a feature or two, which break the deal for me
Guess I'll wait four more years or so :D
I've just purchased the Samsung G8 on sale here in the UK, along with discounts it cost £849.99
This makes is the cheapest of the four for me, bar possibly the DWF which was a similar price with discount.
As to me it's the best looking anyway, and is seen as the best all around in terms of features, I think I've got a "bargain" .... All things considered
I`m about to get G8, but warranty for this monitor holds me back... Any issues so far with G8 ?
@@Pretender_Gamer my order got delayed until this Wednesday, but I'll come back and let you know my thoughts.
I purchased the Samsung Sb98 Oled TV at Christmas and ever since then everything I look at seems to lack contrast and depth. As it's the same tech in that (and I've had no issues whatsoever with burn-in or ghosting), I'd hope this monitor will match
@@mr_pink8711 where you got this discount? It’s insanely cheap.
@@ReedLiu64 Samsungs website has it on sale at the moment from £1299 to £999. they also have a trade in offer, where by you trade any old monitor in for £100 discount, I also had a voucher for £50. Realistically it would cost you £899, but that's still a bargain considering the tech
@@Pretender_Gamer The monitor is amazing, I've never been sold by HDR on any of the monitors I've had (as they were never OLED and I felt it was a gimmick). This monitor and all the games I now play live on HDR. Its amazing.
I'm trying to create a backlight setup for the Alienware AW3423DWF because of the screen coating used, as you have pointed out on this review, and I'm curious about whether the RGB lighting, from the pc case on the side of the monitor, affect the screen coating just like normal lights coming from the front do, or is that a not issue? And do you think Govee Dreamview G1 Pro kit is a good option for a backlight setup?
Corsair has a great one you can put on the back and syncs with your monitor via iCue...
Holding out for the MSI to launch in the UK before i make a decision, probably end up with the DWF as I'm guessing the MSI variant will be more expensive here.
He forgot to mention the G8 has motion processing for movies and tv shows so there will be no judder. Even if you use VLC or MPC-HC it processes the motion. The other monitors do not. So if you plan on consuming media content the G8 is a strong candidate. I wish my DW had it, but the best HDR EOTF tracking is what sold me because it's the only monitor with a hardware module that handles the processing like the smart tv's.
how to access those motion processing on G8 OLED? I have one and missed the how...
Heads up for those of us in Australia the oled g8 is $400 off right now, if your considering here's your chance.
Which store?
@@xUnlimitzxPle
@@xUnlimitzx pc case gear. Scorptec, m wave, computer alliance, PLE computer, samsung Australia and probably more that I missed.
@@avengedknot3698 oh wow I was looking at them before and they were $1999, price dropped so fast
After around 8 months of use, my 3423DW has burn in. Two vertical lines from watching 16:9 video and some splotchiness on the right side from, I assume, reddit page info bars. I vary my content and it was kept in HDR mode with Windows SDR brightness set to 50. After noticing the burn-in, I turned the SDR content brightness to 15. I have the taskbar hidden as well as the desktop wallpaper set to just display black.
right on time.
The MSI seems to be the best of the bunch if you aak me. The Samsung at $1500 seems absurd. No way Id recommend that one. If the Samsung supported 240 Hz, it would get some consideration,
Got my G8 oled and after the firmware update its one of the best monitor as of current market.I returned my c2 tv that gave me black screen on pc and sonos earc sound turn on and off.
Samsung always best solution for gaming
@@trumpameri1638 What about the acer, gigabyte and LG
@@midnightblue3285 everyone buys QD OLED screens from Samsung... i like Acer too
LG 48GQ900 got this one and it does the job so far😁👍
Gonna purchase one of these 3. Wish be luck.
The screen of the g8 just looks so much CLEANER than the other competitors
4 amazing OLED Ultrawides with a refresh rate that can take advantage of the new GPUs.
I wouldn't call them amazing at all. Way too expensive, issues with firmware, non-RGB layouts, bad coating. I would probably not buy any of them for half the current prices. Hoping for next generation to be decent.
show me something similar
Just wait for the next generation of OLED panels. They will most likely come with RGB subpixels and better tuning.
get a C2 42" running in 3840x1800, just amazing.
@@SrUnr3al I don't want a 42" monitor...
I got the G8 a week ago and I love it. I purchased, also, because of the built in TV functions with the smart tv features. I didn't want to have a nice monitor and a TV since everything I have, in my large apartment, is in the loft with me and a TV would just be too much. For those who have the color fringing issue I used Mactype and it almost fixed everything. There's ever so slight fringing still, but it's not ad bad as it used to be.
Hi man, im thinking about to buy that monitor, do you recomend for call of duty warzone and dota 2? btw, how is the brigthness? is good enought?
Suggestion! if possile i would be very interested in what ou guys had to say about the new innocn 32m2v mini LED 32" 4K monitor Cheers
The most common comparison with these panels is the headache you get when dealing with the warranty team.
Still, wont catch me using anything else.
Never had issues with Dells warranty team tbh
Dell is great for warranty
In the end, it's depends on the region
I'm using OLED G8 for entertainment but productivity as well, mostly programming. I guess I kind of decided to test it. QD-OLED should be less prone to the burning in comparison to WOLED since the light intensity doesn't have to be so high to archive the same result. In any case I will update you when any kind of burning occurs but I don't expect it to be any time soon. Also I'm one of those people who barely notice font rendering inaccuracy. I'm kind of hoping the issue will be fixed by the OS at some point as these monitors are getting quite popular but so far it definitely wasn't something to discourage me from using the monitor.
It's actually way worse than WOLED. Rtings did the testing.
@@Gamezone-ze3oz Well at least theoretically it should be the opposite. Whatever, as I said I'm doing my own testing. But it's not like I'm trying to destroy my monitor as fast as possible. I'm using pixel shifting feature, system and most other apps are using dark theme (I prefer it anyway) and the brightness is set to the level comfortable for my eyes. Just a regular user who uses the monitor for work and gaming. We'll see how it goes.
@@AkantorCZAny update on that burn in lol
@@Aegis-_- I haven't noticed anything so far.
Older video I know but I had the Samsung monitor for about two weeks after the second return due to HDR and input issues I returned it for the Alienware3423DWF I have never been happier. Although I do miss the versititally of the inputs of the samsung.
Have you done any reviews on those cheap Chinese oled monitors yet? I've seen a few that are marketed as portable monitors. They aren't very large but they are also very affordable for an oled.
RTings recently released a preliminar result of a massive test with OLED they are doing showing that the QD OLED is way more vulnerable to burn-in white colors than WOLED due to the three colors needing to be bright to reproduce it.
In their comment about this test they started to include the monitors also, G8 etc. to check if it's also applicable to the monitors.
the monitors have a lower standard brightness so it will be interesting to see if that help and by how much. When the test results on them are out.
@@Z0ku Yeah, but i think QD Oled is more a second display if you do something else besides gaming or watching videos. Too risky
Usually , people who can afford these panels ,change them at least once every 3 years. The Alienware , offering burn in warranty, knew what they were doing.
@@sogetsu60 Well, the Rting test showed burn-in within 2 months...
Unfortunately, it's hard to get an Alienware that doesn't have fine scratches and smudges on the panel which can be seen with a bright light or torch. It appears to be due to the way they are packaged for shipping. Would be good if you could inspect the monitors for such blemishes as part of your review. I had to return my DWF for refund due to this reason. Would love to know if the Samsung and MSI have similar issues.
Samsung doesn't have the issue because they apply a peelable screen protector in shipping. All my DWFs came scratched (exchanged multiple times for coil whine, never got a good one).
MSI doesn't have a screen protector either, so most likely will have the same issue as the AW.
@@dinospumoni8255 Thanks mate. I learnt that about the Samsung after watching an unboxing video. Crazy to think the other brands don't use the screen protector - it obviously doesn't affect sales enough so they can't be bothered fixing the issue. Incidentally I also had the coil whine with the DWF - I had to keep the lights enabled at the back, otherwise the whine was very noticeable. I'm getting a refund for the DWF and am waiting delivery of the Samsung G8. Fingers crossed.
@@greenjoyce3001 that's what I did, returned my DWF for the G8. It is dead silent, no coil whine and no fan noise as it doesn't have one.
Screen arrived in perfect condition too, not a single blemish even under bright lighting.
There are some issues though you should be aware of. The monitor will randomly fail to wake from sleep and it seems to lock up Windows when it does.
Some units also have a problem where the volume overlay will randomly pop up on screen without any input. My first unit did that, my second didn't.
Seems no one can make a perfect version of this panel.
@@dinospumoni8255 Great to hear you got a perfect screen, free of blemishes. 👍
Thanks for mentioning those issues. I did read about some of those, and consider them fairly minor, although the volume overlay popping up in the middle of a game could be pretty distracting. I can see why you'd ask for a replacement if it happened often enough. Hopefully a future firmware update can fix those issues.
On another matter - as a fellow enthusiast who is pedantic about their screen, how do you keep the panel clean and free of dust? I've never had a quality screen before so never bothered thinking about this, but this purchase has changed that. 😊 I recently purchased this product (Flawless Screen Cleaner Spray with Microfiber Cleaning Cloth) after reading some positive comments in a forum. Last thing I want is to make fine scratches on it by not cleaning correctly, so keen to hear if you do anything special. Cheers mate!
@@greenjoyce3001 I have a lot of experience with that. The best advice I can give you is try NOT to have to wipe the screen down with cloths/sprays if you can. So, keep fingers off the screen, try not to sneeze, or cough in the direction of the screen.
What I do when dust starts to build up is use an electric compressed air duster to blow off as much dust as possible. I use electric to save money on buying the canned ones. I think I bought one for like $30 off Amazon and I use that to remove as much dust as possible from the screen.
If there's some more stubborn dust or grime on it that doesn't come off with the air duster, then I'll extremely gently wipe the screen with a DRY microfiber cloth, I use the brand magic fiber (large sized ones) from Amazon as those are highly praised for high end camera equipment, and if those are good enough for cameras that cost thousands of dollars, it's good enough for the screen.
I try to avoid all sprays as much as possible because the coating on the QD-OLEDs screens tend to streak/smudge a lot with any liquids but if you do need to use some liquid, spray a little onto the fiber cloth, and as gently as you can, wipe off the grime in a circular pattern until you remove whatever was on the screen. I use this only for spot cleaning.
The spray I use is Calyptus Screen Cleaner, also from Amazon as it has no alcohol or ammonia which could damage screen coatings. I find it doesn't streak either, but glossy screens like the G8 will always have a bit of it, so as long as you wipe gently in a circular pattern it buffs right out without scratching.
TLDR: Try to keep hands off the screen, air dusters are your friend, only use spray + high quality fiber cloth as necessary for spot cleaning.
I saw that the corsair xeneon 27” is getting released in may, it has the same panel as the asus/lg but I wonder if there’s any reason for me getting that one over the asus/lg since both were out of stock but are back in stock now.
The authenticity and quality of content from your channels, including hwunboxed is just sooooo much better dude, i cant appreciate it enough
P.S., Can i get a link for that samsung g8 wallpaper please?
I have the AW3423DW because that's all that's available in my area. Still extremely happy overall. The fan noise is there but doesn't bother me, and I particularly like the white frame over the black of the DWF. The only thing that slightly bugs me is ABL when using HDR1000 mode during normal desktop usage, but in games and HDR content it looks amaze balls. It's like what we imagined HDR is supposed to look like back when the tech was first announced for TVs and stuff.
I haven't noticed a fan noise with my DW at all, and I don't know what Tim is talking about when he mentions it. Am I not using my monitors full power or something? So it doesn't get hot and need to use the fan? I've always been confused about that.
@@mitchhezel1988 Either your environment ambient noise is just enough to drown it out, or maybe your unit just isn't getting hot. I hear mine but it's so faint and so quiet, it's really a non-issue. Tim makes it seem like it's a PS4 jet engine or something.
G8 the best!
Very recently picked the G8 for 1599 AUD
Upgrading from non hdr 1440p Samsung CJG50 from 5 years ago
Just got the Odyssey G9 OLED, will there be a review on it?