Aluminum DC pulse MIG, DC lift TIG, DC Stick "they" said it couldn't be done.
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2020
- Welding some aluminum 3 ways with a multi process machine ... according to the manual that "couldn't be done" .... so here we go - I am showing you how it is done !
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That mig sound is so wild.
I've been using a turd Chicago electric welder tig/stick. I bought for 50$. I figured the regulator was probably worth that. I mostly do light artwork. And the tig is so much less cleaning, more control than the mig
And I also have a Lincoln 220 mig, but I barely use it anymore unless I'm just in a hurry.
The aluminum is a pain with a dc machine. I wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong, but it looks like I just need more practice, and it will happen
Hi 👋 Peter! Thank you buddy for sharing this great information ℹ️
Really cool showing the features of the machine and it's range of abilities.
Zila I have been a welder for most of my life working in shipyards, then the aerospace industries. A lot of Tig and Mig. welding manual and automatic machine welding for companies like Lockheed Martin and a few others. I've been following you for a long time and I have to say you put out some use full videos. I would love to get my hands on this HTP Pro Pulse 220 machine. Retired now doing side jobs out my garage. Keep up the videos I enjoy watching them. Thank you!
I use the arc rod for field repairs all the time. With a little practice looks great and is very strong
and works in 30 mile per hour wind ....
I still absolutely love this video even after a year!
I am glad you do!
Nice video. You can also DC TIG weld aluminum using 3/32" SMAW rod as the filler rod and 100% argon. 👍
I have great trouble stick welding aluminum. It seems a little violent and burns too fast.
I have seen this done. Works even better with a tiny bit of preheat.
Dude your a genius. It looks like the high pulse setting breaks up the oxide layer. Good job dude. Bsafe
Glad it helped
Peter those HTP welders are very good, but there is no distributor in Canada so I have Fronius which can do the same with Aluminum
as the HTP but no pulse on the model I have. I have a 3 meter mig lead/torch for aluminum and a 5 meter for steel. Helium is very expensive here so not many DC TIG Aluminum. Keep doing your videos as you always teach us something new every time
I thought Fronius was the root manufacturer of the HTP machine...? Isn't that so?
@@kwasg3 I have not heard that , but it may be possible both are top European companies
Fronius is a manufacture or Welding machines, battery charger and solar power equipment in Austria.
HTP machines are made by Stel in Italy which is one of the top european welding machine manufactures, they make ma chines under their own name and they also make machines for a good hand full of those welding machine manufactures in this world ....
HTP stuff is great; I still have my Propulse and 221 from my shilling days. Don't ever intend to sell them, either. Use them all the time.
I need a pulse one I bought a Lincoln that said it welds aluminum but I know that pulse one it’s better and always weld with Tig never with mig or rod
We miss your videos Chuckie!!!
What setting did you have on the stick?
I wish I could get a htp machine in Australia awesome video’s Zilla
well awesome machine, and i mean the peter zila machine.:D. thanks man. nice rig
Timely video! I actually unboxed this welder this last week, largely based on your vids about it. I can't seem to get the aluminum wire to maintain stick out unless I am pulling 3.0 to 5.0 volts out of the prefab settings, but then it is putting down some nice beads. I think I have to do that because I am traveling too slow. I would love for you to do some technique vids about using this machine to work with thin stuff. The manual says it will do .039 alum on .030 5356 - seems impossible! to me... lol.. I am trying to work out welding thin brackets to thick base metal, such as .120 brackets to 1/4" wall tube, and some .090 stuff to 3/16 and 1/4 wall tube. Trailer and pitpal type products. Anyway, if you need vid material I think that would make some good content! Thanks Peter for the vids!
kwasg3 i made a few other videos that will be REALLY helpful with the issue you are experiencing.
My guess is that you either have the wire brake too tight, not enough gas , the wrong drive roll or a bad tip or bad liner.... i am busy right now, email me CL@zila.net and i will get back to you later tonight
Along with what Peter said, a lot of people make the mistake of having the wrong stickout and skimping out on the argon to try to save shielding gas. You can't do this with aluminum. You have to have a good 3/4" stickout and thus you have to have a good 40CFH+ of argon to cover the spread. A lot of times users will use a "steel like stick-out like with short circuit because they don't want to use the correct CFH for a 3/4" stickout". FAIL. You gotta pay to play with aluminum. Set the machine and the whole project correctly and you'll see good results. Also some users set the machine at wayyyy too low of a WFS for some completely unfounded reason. I saw a FB comment where someone was welding 0.165" material or somewhere along those lines, and he had it dialed in to about 100A. And they want to know what they're doing wrong, LOL. Seriously. DON"T BE STINGY with either the shielding gas or WFS. Yes, you have to tweak things, it's the nature of the game. But don't be so stingy with wire/practice plates/argon that you don't try things on your own as well. Just my 2cents from playing around a lot with these machines.
How much did you pay for the welder? Thanks
Sporting that cletus sweatshirt I see. great video. I wish I could sale my Miller welder and buy a htp welder for aluminum looks to be very versatile.
Go for it!
@ 5:22 seen that and was going to say something, nice catch.
Nice cleetus shirt!!! Hell ya brother!
You know it!
Good,,,👍👍👍
Thanks
Can a tig ac convert aluminum oxide into aluminum? Im thinking if we can recycling aluminum using tig ac.
not sure
Are you providing training for McFarland Fabrication? Love the shirt.
S Ermerins i actually did !!!! In january this year !!!! I had a IG post about that
Are you still using argon on the tig?
I thot my machine could do aluminum,just found out it says no.because it doesn't have ac..
Normally i use argon for all tig welding. BUT if you want to weld aluminum with a DC tig machine you need to use helium.
Nice Zila!
What settings were you using for the stick welding?
Plyply i used an MG 405 rod 3/32 diameter 40% hot start either 0% or 10% arc force and about 65-70 amps
@@ZILAwelds thanks for the vid. i'll have to give that a go sometime. its darn sight easier to take the stick welder instead of all the tig gear.
@@tweake7175 how did you go on the arc?
@@jotk5978 have yet to try those. Tho have a better arc welder now, just need to get some rods in to try.
Anyone tried the aluminum brazing rods with dc?
Thy are typically zinc based and you use a map gas torch with it
@@ZILAwelds I'm aware of that. Has anyone try tig
please do a scratch tig aluminum using an AC welding machine, can this be done
Here is the story: scratch start is typically done with a stick welder ( electrode always hot) and also typically that happens in dc not in ac.
That being said most modern acdc tig machines utilize square wave technology which allows you to ac tig weld without continuous high frequency. So you can start an arc without hf. That being said, most of those machines also have lift arc functions build in. And if you turn hf off you automatically have lift start on. In order to actually scratch start you would have to not touch the base metal with the torch, step on the foot pedal ( lets say 100+ amps worth) and then you could scratch start it ….
Which in my mind makes absolutely no sense, i can bot think of a single application or situation no matter how off the wall it is where it would be somehow beneficial or the only option.
So i am sorry, it is really unlikely that i will be making a video like this…..
@@ZILAwelds I'm just curious, if the arc on stick welding can be done with a simple AC welding transformer then tig should also be done too
@@tobiltok2536 no. And that is where you are mistaken…. And i have a video coming on that topic ….
An ac stick welder ( because pure sine wave ) not square wave needs constant high frequency …. Every time the arc goes through the zero line (on an angle - not 90 degree) it extinguishes the arc …..
which means - transformer based machines stick or stone old tig need continuous HF to work …. The arc gets re lit twice per cycle …..
So that means HF is already there and already on …. As soon as you go near the base metal it will auto ignite…. You can not scratch start an ac transformer tig/stick welder …. I mean not with a tig torch …. Stick rods are different…
Have you had any experience with Fronius's pulse? I am planning on buying the new transteel pulse but I also see that the htp 200 is really capable.
TheSingleAss i am not familiar with a trans steel pulse.
I know fronius has a trans steel 2200 which is a synergic non pulse machine just like the htp MTS 210
Both are very good european build machines, there is s HUGE price difference though... and fronius uses a bunch of proprietary mig gun parts ( tips, nozzles, the gun itself) which work very well but are 3x as expensive as the htp stuff ....
Typically fronius pulse mig machines are called trans pulse xxx and a number ..., and THOSE are BIG money .....
Bottom line you can weld aluminum .100”-1/8” and THICKER without pulse, if you want to weld thin material you need to have pulse .....
why?
You can NOT weld aluminum in short circuit mig ( with any crackling) .... at least not if you expect it to hold and be leak tight. You NEED to weld it in spray arc!
And since the oxide layer needs WELL OVER 3000 F to break open and the aluminum melts at about 1200F you can only weld so thin of material because of the heat of the spray arc..... pulse is s pulsed (interrupted) spray arc which has less, smaller, hotter individual droplets that have enough energy to break through the oxide layer BUT do not totally destroy the aluminum under it....
If you want to talk about that email me your phone number CL@zila.net
@@ZILAwelds Yes, it is brand new, there is only one video on it and it's another cool guy from the UK testing it.
@@ZILAwelds soldar.bg/produkt-kategoriya/produkti/fronius-zavarychni-mashini/mig-mag-aparati/fronius-transsteel-pulse/
@@ZILAwelds the last link is the local retailer for fronius here in Bulgaria
@@TheSingleAss that video showed the 400amp machine ... the retailers link I didnt see ....
Are going to rewrite the manual? 🤣. That’s pretty amazing.
ManCraftingTM i dont know what you are talking about... the owner told me last week it could not be done!
The warpage is totally out of control!!!
after I weld bead after bead after bead on the same plate .... of course it is !
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Cleetus would be proud....
He handed me that shirt 3 years ago … he was still in his old shop and just about to buy the freedom factory …