Traveling between the Netherlands and Belgium with NS/SNCB trains
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Railway company: NS/SNCB
Train type : E186 and ICR coaches
From : Rotterdam Centraal to Mechelen (Malines)
N° of train: Unknown
Duration : 1H27
Price : 46,60 €
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Hey folks,
For your information this video was recorded in July 2019. Not now during the outbreak of the COVID-19.
Enjoy and stay safe
Thibault
Oui heureusement !! Merci Thibault, toi aussi prends soin de toi !!!
Thibault aren’t you gonna do a video on the Amtrak returning from St. Louis?
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@Gibson Garrett language
These icr coatches wil soon in 2022/2023 be replaced for the new icng trains that can run 200km
I think it's amusing that if something does not work you give it the finger.
I think Switzerland, Austria and the Netherlands habe the cleanest stations in Europe.
How about France?🤣
@@zoeythefatgirl4258 dirty France
Dim Dom not at all
Dim Dom Depends. Some stations are really clean, but especially the underpasses on smaller stations often tend to be the most disgusting.
You see this as an international line, but I guess most people see this train more like an intercity train. It's also more a commuter train during morning and evening rush hour
Buffet car will never be option I think, for that you have to take the Thalys.
I’m not a big fan of faregates, but they work well since the entire country uses the NS fare card for all public transport. No need to buy a ticket domestically if you have money on the card.
Also: anyone interested in cycling needs to check out the bicycle parking at Rotterdam Centraal (or any major NS station; next to the big one in Utrecht it’s one of the largest and coolest designs.
I was in Rotterdam last spring and was amazed at the new station - having been to the old one several times during the 1980's. However, the sign did not come from the old station. Rather, the letters were replicated from the old sign but larger.
I have seen quite a few of your posts and really enjoy them. They make me long for a trip. I will, soon. Thank you very much.
That train at 2:48 is a SGMm. That stands for Stads Gewestelijk Materieel in Dutch and the little means that it's modernised. The trains are built in the 70's, maximum speed is 120 km/h and going out of service in 2021.
125 km/h
Dutch railways are very beautiful and the NS livery is great 🤩🤩
Thank you for still doing videos
The EMU sounds like a spaceship out of star wars... a,so like the Jubilee line subway trains in London. Another great video.
These trains are not EMUs
@@Aero__08 the virm is an EMU in dutch that stand for elektrisch treinstel
arfan vlk if he was talking about the Virm, my comment would be wrong so I’m sorry. But he seems to talk about the ICRMmh which isn’t an emu. The Virm in my opinion doesn’t sound like a space ship and more like music.
COVID19 has forced me to postpone my European holiday a year. Rotterdam is to be my first stop on the Continent, and Mechelen my last stop (actually Brussels, but with a visit to Mechelen).
TOP ! I am Belgian: do for sure Brussels and Bruges, taste the beer, chocolate and wafels, and you may do also Gent and Mechelen. Chose Amsterdam instead of Rotterdam, I you do not do Amsterdam. Rotterdam had no historic citycentre anymore because it was flattened by the Germans in 1940. Amsterdam: do the Friendship Canal Cruise, in small open boats, best there is. HAVE FUN ! A,d you can smoke whatever you want, but not in your hotelroom ! 😀😉😆😡👌
@@dirkusmaximus9268 Thank you for the recommendations, Dirkie, but R'dam is a must because I'll be staying with a family friend I haven't seen in nearly 50 years! Mechelen is also on the schedule because that's where Family van Beethoven is from! My original plan was to celebrate BTHVN2020, but Covid messed that up.
'on time as usual' This Dutch train is probably the most delayed train in Belgium.. :D
I mean it is the most delayed train in the netherlands.
8:39 I didn't expect this reaction. .LOL 🤣🤣
Wonderful ride, I take the train on a daily from Noorderkempen to Centraal, and I absolutely love it. Took it from Amsterdam to Centraal once aswell! Kinda want to do the Brussels to Amsterdam trip completely once... Just waiting for the corona period to be over!
When I was younger I took one of these from Brussels to Amsterdam to catch a flight. Thankfully we left 10 hours before the flight was bound to leave because the train kept breaking down and eventually had to reverse out of a tunnel. We then had to take two smaller commuter trains to get the airport.
6:31 Actually there is! Usually there is a person going around selling snacks and drinks. Not sure why they weren't on your specific service! They are onboard from Antwerp to Amsterdam. "Railcatering"! Maybe next time! Besides, usually the train is very crouded. Especially the 2 time a day service between The Hague and Brussels!
As far as Noorderkempen goes, it actually is a hsl line. The tracks in the middle see the Thalys and Eurostar going to amsterdam flying through at 250! It's a 25kV line and the traxx is the only IC train on it. (Besides the P trains for people going to their jobs, those are special Desiros designed for the 25kV catenary!
Oh yeah. DSB have actually noticed that NS is doing this and are currently experimenting with something similar, or rather they were just before the Covid-19 outbreak. They were experimenting with it on select departures along the Copenhagen-Fredericia line, 6 years after they cut the snack-kart. Overall definitely a step forward considering some of the journeys with them can take as long as 4 hours on the fastest service, but people are still asking for a proper onboard Kiosk, which was actually implemented in their current fleet when they were built but since then removed.
@@drdewott9154 Interesting, I hope they return the cart soon! It's a nice place to chat aswell!
The power sockets are at the top, because, when you plug in a cable, adapter or whatever, and you will leave the train or the seat, you didnt forget them. E.g. in the German EMU Class 442 (Bombardier TALENT 2) there are the power sockets on the top too.
I always wondered and now I know. Thanks for sharing.
Top vidéo Thibault, train top , vidéo intéressante. Bon Dimanche 👍🚂🚄
Nice videos. :) Been watching a bunch of them now (and of course the Netherlands especially as a Dutchman)
You mention the NS is known for their punctuality. It is such an important thing to them that each year they set a goal of how many trains MUST run on shedule and the publish those results as well. Target as far as I know has never been below 94% on time. Yet still the Dutch will complain that the trains are always late (and yes, we are talking about less than half a minute late here)
Hi, thanks for the bike storage information, always very useful. Hopefully we will all have the opportunity to travel again soon. Thanks for helping to keep are 'travel brain cells' working. Tim.
The sound of a virm is my favorite het geluid van een virm is me favorite geluid
8:54 I noticed that when I was watching a cab ride video of the HSL! The different OHL (along with the ETCS block markers (dont know why they're of the TVM pattern rather than the arrows) being differently sized) gave away where the border between the countries was 🙃
If you are quick you can spot a sign that says GSM-R b
7:12 lol at the tiny detective face 😆
Another great video! Underrated channel.
Great Work.
Keep it up
Beautiful video !!! 🔝👍🏻😉
It's always more pleasing when we are given such thorough knowledgeable information and the viewing of the railway journeys through you.
Always enjoyable. Thanks.
Imagine the ICNG train replace the coaches + locomotive and be used for ICD service.
Those are ICRmh carriages to be more nitpicky. ICR = Intercityrijtuig, and the m stands for modernized, and the stands for hogesnelheidslijn (I think).
That was and excellent video!
I to prefer the loco hauled equipment also!!!
Excellent as usual !
Thank you for sharing this video, take care and be safe out there !!!:):):)
yess! Love the trainvideo's/reviews in the Netherlands!
That train looks quite luxurious first or standard class thanks for showing non high speed régional or international trains aswell as high speed which is good but slower trains can be cheaper and get more of the scenery than it zooming past at 200 to 300 kmh or over
Good old VIRM IGBT inverter noise 😃
NS livery is one of the best ❤️
8:37 - 8:44 The best part of the whole journey video xD
Another great video !!
As a Dutch person 5:19 had me laughing nervously at "NS are known for their puncutiality".
Most beautiful 2nd class interior !!!
Hello great video
When you are using trains in Belgium, you use one nationally runned railway company, which is bilingual. NMBS/SNCB. Flanders and Wallonië.
Nice video.
Plenty trains were captured.
Just one question.
Is the EMU shown at the starting of the video is double decker??
Yes it is
You should have seen Rotterdam Centraal before the refurbishment... much like Brussels North, but colder and more depressing. Last time I was there (2000) the toilet attendant was wearing a ski suit, in May.
Actually, quite a funny story, we were about to switch to the Euro and could only exchange foreign banknotes (I'm Belgian) until a certain date. Any coins we had to spend or accept they'd become worthless. Realising this (I'd already taken the last 2 Coke Lights out of the vending machine) I just tipped my remaining Dutch coins as I left the toilets, not even caring how much it was. She chased after me up to the platform saying "Sir, Sir!! -that's way too much, it's only 20 cents!" -I'm, like, "It's ok, I won't becoming back before the Euro, those coins will become worthless to me anyway." Platform manager comes to check what the hubbub is about; she goes off at him saying "You know what that guy just did?!? -he tipped me over 7 Guilders!! -I can't accept that!!"
I repeat my earlier explanation and, as my train came to a halt I was like "Bye!", leaving the platform manager to deal with the situation. Much to the merriment of the conductors when I explained to them what happened after.
I agree with you, the Netherlands' and Belgium's on-board catering are severely lacking :(
Nice, a Dutch trip report, please more reports of Dutch trains
Merci Thibault pour ce trip report. Une question juste : il faut payer pour pouvoir rentrer dans la gare avec ton billet ou alors acheter un petit billet d'accès à 2/3 euros? Sinon, un train à compartiments aïe aïe aïe je déteste ça !!! Beau boulot en tout cas, j'ai aimé, une de mes chaines préférées.
@Adam Mec Merci de la réponse !
5:26 overall not on the HSL line, lot of problems with that traxx
Can you elaborate please
@Adam Mec okay
I took this train from Rotterdam to Antwerpen
Fun fact: Theres a station named: Bruges and its from: Train conductor world
Thanks for reviewing :D
Hi, Thibault! How is it going?
8:41 - LMAO XD This is the first time that I have seen you making this signal on video, by a equipment was not working!! By the way, one more awesome video! Take care! Regards from São Paulo, Brazil.
Ahah sometimes I'm pissed off ... especially during these days where washing hand in important
Nice and comfort in think
This is absolutely wiping the floor with the USA version of a train...
Beating USA passenger trains is easy, even some third world countries manage that. So The Netherlands wiping the floor with the USA version of a train is winning with two fingers in the nose, like we say. Our whole train grid is great, so are our stations. Rolling stock could be better though, but improvements are already ordered and delivery will start this year I believe. The positive thing about our train system are the many trains per hour that stop at main stations. I often use a small regional station (not an IC station) and even there, there are four trains an hour to Amsterdam in peak hours. When I need two go to Schiphol Airport (one day a week) I almost every time have an easy transfer on Amsterdam Bijlmer-Arena. On one side of the platform I exit the regional train (the train that stops at every station) and on the other side of the platform the IC (InterCity that only stops at main stations) to Schiphol is already waiting. You cross the platform get into the IC and the doors close and the train starts moving. It’s a smooth transfer, no changing platforms. I don’t even know how the station hall looks like at my transfer station. And I like it that my company provide me with a first class chipcard, especially in rush hour when second class is so busy sometimes that people are standing against each other in the aisles and near the exits. At those times it is nice to have a seat in first class.
@@RealConstructor If you could experience the USA version of trains, You would die laughing. UK, ASIA and others have have built rail systems over the past 20 years that Dwarf even the USA Highway system. Basically the rail system here in the USA is does not exist. It's just that bad.
Great video!
Netherlands has the most beautiful Trainstations. But the trains are old and ugly ^^'
NS has invested heavily in new Sprinters over the last decade and all the IC trains have been refurbished (DDZ, VRM, ICM, ICR). I don't know if they are ugly, but they are clean and comfortable, especially the ICR coaches with the same bogies as the Corail coaches.
At least you have a network worth using
OfficialMonstamusic....i guests you must be the most ugliest person in your city...if not in the whole of your country.
Correct. As Germany has old and ugly stations, the trains are top notch.
Newby to train nerdiness. What is a push/pull configuration as opposed to any other? Thanks!
E186 Traxx has a Belgian railways designation Class 28 & 29
These trains are great. I also travel in them. Not now ofcourse during the outbreak. Between 2021 and 2024/2025 these will be replaced by the Intercity New Generation (Alstom Coradia Stream)
Superb 👌👌
1:57 funny that you say that. i find rotterdam cs to be one of the dirtiest station in my country. why? because of the fact that some idiot thought mostly concrete track bedding in a station would be a fantastic ideal and completely skipped over the fact that people flush toilets in the station. and what comes out of the toilet lands on the concrete. with ballast bedding it sinks into the ballast which covers the smell mostly. flushing the toilet when the train is standing at the platform is strictly against ns’ rules of conduct, which then again is illegal because dutch law makes rules of conduct of an transportation company enforceable laws.
But toilets flushing directly onto the rails is only in old trains
Christian 104 only the recently build flirt and sng commuter trains have build in and 2013-now refurbished intercity stock have retrofitted bio tanks. all the other stock and non rebuild intercity which still comprise most of the fleet do not (and the old 2 coach sgm commuter sets which have started to be scrapped this year didn’t even have toilet at all)
@@belletiggeler2579 The refurbished Koplopers have septic tanks as well, as do the now pretty ubiquitous DDZ (formerly DD-AR) trains.
Bom Cabedal oh really? wasn’t aware of them having it but good to know! i thought i saw one littering waste water but with corona the last good look i got at an koploper is a while ago hahaha
@@belletiggeler2579 That might've been some other fluid though (I dunno). But your point is valid, the present Rotterdam would've stunk to high heaven in the 1990s...
C’est bien je trouve que t’es de plus en plus patient avec les capteurs 😍😂
Mdrrrrrrr oui...
5:17 every Dutch person: "what?" (people here like to complain about every single minute of delay).
Great vid, what is the ns sprinter used for,
Normally it would have been the Fyra, a kind of modest but nice looking Italian highspeed train, google it. So riding on the highspeed track, Amsterdam - Brussels. There were too much problems with it..., was from Ansaldo Breda. They did make the faulty choice to buy a train that was still in developement, with too many teething problems. They also thought about the Siemens-ICE-model, sadly they choose Italian. Clothing yes, wine, yes, food yes, train, less, household car...NO WAY !!!
This line is called the Amsterdammer, a line between Brussels and Amsterdam, a,d stayed the same as before, not highspeed, only refubisxhed coaches. The fast alternative is the Thalys (TGV model).
Too bad you don't show the impressive construction going on in Mechelen for the new train station ! :((
I show the construction in another video dude,
czcams.com/video/E6DrCzhneIs/video.html
Enjoy
The coaches have corail wheelsets and yes 160 is the max speed😢
Love the vid, Dutchie myself so I understand your love for NS liveries. Please consider a bit more time in between subtitles. I’m a quick reader myself, but looking at the footage + reading just doesn’t work in this time. Keep up the good vids! Shhhhhh
The number of the set ICR Coaches you where on is 16481.
After corona, why don’t you come to Japan? Japan has lots and lots of trains with a different system than Europe and the US. Many different companies with many different trains, and clean toilets on many trains. Unfortunately japan is all motive stock, no locomotive hauled trains except freight and tourist trains, but it’s still really fun. There’s a motive sleeper train and motive freight train. And the best thing is bigger seatpitch than Europe, it’s pretty big to make the seats turn forward.
When is that new thalys interior coming? And livery is there already eith red doors or is the new livery something different?
You did the right thing getting off at Mechelen; it's much nicer than Brussels tbh.
Next 2023 they go out of service and they are going for sale ! But they will be replaced by some new or old trains they do not know this yet, so the classic trains will be gone forever😢
The E186 by Bombardier is copying New Jersey Transit's ALP-46 Locomotive and whether the E186 in Belgium 🇧🇪 and Netherlands 🇳🇱 or the ALP-46 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 can battle it out.
Signed, Angela.
Bom seu vídeo. Parabéns!
Can u buy tickets from machines in station when crossing border or do ya have to buy from cashier in station
Too much vinyl floor and wall covering on European trains for me. I like the carpeted walls and floors on North American trains.
On a side note, I always find myself checking your left wrist to see what watch you're wearing for the trip. You appear to have a mix of mechanical and digital time pieces. I have a varied watch collection myself consisting of hand winders and automatics.
It is because it is easier to maintain, especially during the rains when people walk in with wet n dirt on their footwear. Very pragmatic. Besides carpets hold onto to dust, moisture n smell n stuffy after sometime. UK trains too have carpety floors on trains.
ce sont les meme bogies Y32 des trains corail :) mais sans semelles en fontes dou plus silencieux lol
They never say how long the trip took.
This video was recorded on which date? I notice mask-wearing isn't adopted yet or Netherland and Belgium today is still masked free?
there actually is a trolley service on board of the train but not always and actually this is the worst train ever there's almost everyday delay with the Benelux train because the loc has allot of bugs
i subscribed
05:27 WHAHAHA not at all
dus dat
The whole 1st class is a silence area these days 😁
Thibaut, I don't get it really.10:05 How can you say 'thank you' at NS for 'Useful trains' that are nowhere High Speed. 11 years after delivery of the High Speed Tracks NS still don't have proper HS trains at 250 kmh. The pace Ams-Bru is nearly the same as to Groningen or Arnhem. And they keep paying €80 mln/year for the concession (and the costs of the Fyra disaster). I'd call that bad service...
I'm not sure dude. These IC are really comfy, not that expensive, with great onboard serivices and clockwise schedule are for me useful trains
Pls make more trains form belgium
The E186 is my favourite Dutch trains. Can you try rer?
hi, your videos are very nice but very difficult to read the information because of its very bottom covered with adds
Jeeeej welcome to roffa
After this hole thing clears up can you do the inter7city with ScotRail
Yes, some our French trains are stil dirty as usual.
Why don‘t you like the gatelines in Rotterdam Centraal?
Lol 8:40
Why is the power socket up in the clouds tho
8:41
Why the middle finger
No cafe car??? What good is toilets time without snacky snack? 😉
How many hours from Netherlands to Belgium
When the coronavirus 😭👎 is over you can do more rides in Belgium please👍🇧🇪
Great Video, but how long will you still be able to publish new videos during corona crisis?
No worries I've still some videos :)
Thats great
Thank you
I love your content, but could you add a background to the text? White letters on a light/white background make the text that you display very hard to read. Especially on sunny or brightly lit trains. Adding a black/blue background would solve it. Don't get me wrong, I will watch it anyway, but a little tip :-)
It has been months since I dared to say it. Fortunately, you did it for me!
Jammer dat er gekozen is voor de tekst in beeld wat in mijn ogen te snel gaat. Ik zou of minder tekst en langzamer doen en erbij praten.
Ja maar misschien is die Chinees of een andere taal die je niet kan verstaan
Is corona not affecting Netherlands??