The Von Flue Choke The Guillotine Antidote

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Komentáře • 201

  • @WilkyWonka
    @WilkyWonka Před 4 lety +430

    OSP brought me here

  • @hensen5309
    @hensen5309 Před 3 lety +106

    Been doing this choke since I was 16. I was the smallest out of class full of adult military men. I found It so useful because since I was a little smaller, they would just try and wrap up a guillotine and treat me like I sucked. I started using that choke, and it opened up whole news worlds of technique.

  • @dChad014
    @dChad014 Před 3 lety +31

    Love this dudes accent, makes me feel like a right bloke mongst pals talkin bout poppin eads off

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn Před 4 lety +16

    Rolled with a first timer, was a boxer with this enormous Palhares type body, all he could do was grab and squeeze. I got into side control and he immediately got me in the perfect von flue setup and I was like "Thank you OSP!"

  • @likejimi5845
    @likejimi5845 Před 3 lety +92

    Seen a dude just do this on streetbeefs and had to look up how lol

  • @tanandtrent
    @tanandtrent Před 4 lety +54

    bro Australians always seem like the type of dudes you could crush a couple brews with.

  • @ludvigeriksson8406
    @ludvigeriksson8406 Před rokem +32

    I've been doing mma for years and I swear this guy is the BEST. Anytime I'm thinking about certain positions or submission variations this channel always has the answers I'm looking for. Always really good tips and little quirks and he is really funny on top of that i think which makes watching these videos a great time. Plus he only does no gi from what I've seen which is perfect

  • @mattbushnell7885
    @mattbushnell7885 Před 4 lety +30

    Just came here after watching Ovince Saint Preux finishes. I couldn't work out how he was choking them. So it's essentially the shoulder on the neck. Got it thanks

    • @jessicacrater9012
      @jessicacrater9012 Před rokem +2

      dude... me to ..lol I was like how he choke the chocker ..lol now I know...

  • @leglocksdontwork4243
    @leglocksdontwork4243 Před 5 lety +102

    A great way to counter all this cranks from the bodybuilders rolling the first time and wanna try to screw your head of with a giultine choke that never work but hard to get out of cause they hold for dear live

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 5 lety +14

      Common scenario that this works well! Agreed. (-: Coach Tom Davey

    • @icenutsproductions9682
      @icenutsproductions9682 Před 3 lety +2

      yes i tapped a very strong body builder who was just trying to crank my neck

    • @Bawks_FEET
      @Bawks_FEET Před 2 lety +2

      Learned this for that exact reason, heavier guys trying to just muscle through and crank my neck on a guillotine

    • @frankyh101
      @frankyh101 Před 2 lety +2

      Here because of this 😂

  • @2ossy
    @2ossy Před 6 lety +135

    Did he just imply that OSP has small shoulders? xD

    • @Unknown-lj2kw
      @Unknown-lj2kw Před 4 lety +9

      His shoulder is wider then my back

    • @AliHamza-sv4ni
      @AliHamza-sv4ni Před 3 lety +1

      He's not big compared to the others in his division

    • @bd1zzle
      @bd1zzle Před 2 lety

      @@AliHamza-sv4ni yeah his weight is literally all core and thighs. You see his untattoo shoulder you can see his neck nicely away from his shoulder and his chest is where it starts to get big but his core, waist and legs are all muscle and sculpted. He also has a small head width ways so easier to get into the choke started to get everyone off guard and his shoulder is already in or about too with the way he keeps his hair clean on the sides so make that sweaty shoulder and neck split apart when OSP does it.

  • @krombopulosmichael2186
    @krombopulosmichael2186 Před 5 lety +53

    always good to know what to do if you get caught in a bad situation, thanks for the tips

  • @JukemDrawles87
    @JukemDrawles87 Před 4 lety +15

    OSP told me I need to learn this choke

  • @dcv1979
    @dcv1979 Před 3 lety +2

    Alonzo Menifield made me come here! #ufc260 💪🏽

  • @sultanghaznawi7238
    @sultanghaznawi7238 Před 3 lety +3

    I have never grappled in my life but here I am at work, watching how to execute different BJJ moves :D

  • @spray31
    @spray31 Před 3 lety +1

    Very clear communication and teaching style, thankyou

  • @mls01981
    @mls01981 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you DC for pointing me towards this technique!

  • @humanzerohumanzero4825
    @humanzerohumanzero4825 Před 11 měsíci

    This guy LOVED explaining this

  • @charlieruisseau2476
    @charlieruisseau2476 Před měsícem

    Brilliant as usual, thanks guys!

  • @nevgre
    @nevgre Před 6 lety +12

    Glad I discovered this channel, it's awesome!!

  • @Lance-Sir
    @Lance-Sir Před rokem

    Your explanations are lucid and entertaining. Thank you

  • @chrisblanchard4938
    @chrisblanchard4938 Před 4 lety +2

    That was great! Subscribed!

  • @stefanocubero6367
    @stefanocubero6367 Před 4 lety +13

    I think Ovince Saint Preux liked this video

  • @wertty1988ify
    @wertty1988ify Před 4 lety

    Love the energy and common sense explanation!!

  • @abid5650
    @abid5650 Před 4 lety

    Love the way you teach mate!!

  • @NoiseBombS14
    @NoiseBombS14 Před 4 lety +5

    As a 5'10 130lbs lanky 21 year old this is my favorite thing to do when rolling. More often than not I will bait someone into an easy guillotine knowing full well they will go for it with my hand already set up to slide up the back, and on my toes instantly ready to throw my body over into side control, and with my incredibly long skinny lanky arms neck and shoulders, it's usually very quick to get that

  • @areuokay4984
    @areuokay4984 Před 8 měsíci

    I was thinking about this for 2 hours thanks

  • @westfinger8630
    @westfinger8630 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you!

  • @Tumblingcloud1
    @Tumblingcloud1 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video, thank you!

  • @kyokushinnojoe
    @kyokushinnojoe Před 5 lety +4

    This is awesome. Very much needed to learn this. Gonna drill it immediately.

  • @byrusmx
    @byrusmx Před rokem +1

    This is gold. Now it's clearly to me how did Cory McKenna win her most recent fight. Awesome technique.

  • @Kalernor
    @Kalernor Před měsícem

    Great explanation, thanks

  • @mamaswamma1234
    @mamaswamma1234 Před rokem

    This choke helped my 14 year old son gain confidence after a classmate kept locking in guillotine every time he would shoot a takedown!!! Thanks!

  • @deepalisajwan9782
    @deepalisajwan9782 Před 5 lety +4

    Nice presentation sir

  • @mikelim7939
    @mikelim7939 Před 11 měsíci

    Great demo and explanation. Thanks! 👍

  • @benaking2782
    @benaking2782 Před rokem

    Bruh, this is simple yet so effective.

  • @dustyshirlz8292
    @dustyshirlz8292 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm excited to try this

  • @BlackMaskq
    @BlackMaskq Před 4 lety +1

    Great teaching

  • @braydenrodd8602
    @braydenrodd8602 Před 4 lety +1

    Great tutorial! thanks boys

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi Před 4 lety +2

    Just learned this today!

  • @WHUFCxVB
    @WHUFCxVB Před 5 lety +6

    I always find it more useful to know what to do when you get caught in a bad situation. More often than not, you'll be rolling or something and the other guy will be slick and come out with something that you haven't seen or suckers you into something very basic.
    I only started doing jiu jitsu about 6 months ago, so i've found myself in predicaments that I shouldn't be in quite often. i've realized what works best is knowing how to get out of them. If at the very least you don't get the choke you wanted, you're not getting choked out.

    • @othmanezerbane8251
      @othmanezerbane8251 Před 2 lety

      As a white belt or blue belt the only art you should focus on is escaping.

  • @sammy.hilman
    @sammy.hilman Před 3 lety +3

    Von Flue Choke is so underrated move

  • @bornfourthis635
    @bornfourthis635 Před 3 lety +1

    Gotta be the coolest submission

  • @eiken1988
    @eiken1988 Před rokem

    Awesome brother,

  • @Jan-wk6ez
    @Jan-wk6ez Před 3 lety +1

    Good instructions!

  • @akashanu4826
    @akashanu4826 Před 3 lety +1

    Helpful

  • @irongrip
    @irongrip Před 5 lety +2

    Love it!

  • @zaderianhardwick9997
    @zaderianhardwick9997 Před 4 lety +1

    Tht is so dam slick ... I’m thinking of all kinds of ways to utilize the shoulder

  • @mattwest2054
    @mattwest2054 Před 4 měsíci

    Came here after training yesterday and I always get caught in a guillotine so was shown this after the counter ,nice man and bonus arm locks as I’m that big guy

  • @brendan882
    @brendan882 Před 3 lety +1

    Literally why I just watched this 😂 OSP’s Von Flue is no joke

  • @standingreserve3791
    @standingreserve3791 Před rokem +1

    Had to look this up after watching Cory McKenna do it!

  • @codybear56
    @codybear56 Před 4 lety +2

    Gawd this guys got good stuff

  • @trynagetbanned8483
    @trynagetbanned8483 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome

  • @whatthefhaha
    @whatthefhaha Před 3 lety +4

    Here from Alonzo Menifield Von Flue choke

    • @almenabdi192
      @almenabdi192 Před 3 lety +1

      Facts! Had me a little confused how he tapped, but the right arm trap is so key! Shoulda let go of that Guilly!!

  • @aamesworld
    @aamesworld Před 3 lety +1

    Love this counter

  • @cjhall44
    @cjhall44 Před 6 lety +4

    I remember Jason Von flue on TUF, I don't think I have ever actually seen the technique. I will definitely being practicing this.

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 6 lety +1

      He nailed a guy with this choke in the finale I think. Its a great choke! (-: Coach Tom Davey

  • @paydn202
    @paydn202 Před rokem

    first thing to realize no one in a street fight will ever wrap your neck that well lol. as long as you know this choke you are gold.

  • @don8535
    @don8535 Před 2 lety +2

    holy shit this is brilliant

  • @nightangelx1513
    @nightangelx1513 Před 4 lety

    Wow this is so useful for me. I’m a wrestler and have a bad habit of getting guillotined when I take people down

  • @dr1052
    @dr1052 Před rokem

    Well done here's a sub and like keep up the good work 🙂👍

  • @QWEEKEN73
    @QWEEKEN73 Před 10 měsíci

    I like the option of attacking the arm if they loosen the grip. Oss!

  • @Okwako
    @Okwako Před 4 lety

    Well Explained!!! 👌

  • @winkwest7166
    @winkwest7166 Před 2 lety +1

    Entered the odd MMA hold rabbit hole. I went from watching the twister get done, to learning OSP's signature hold.

  • @WitsEnds
    @WitsEnds Před 4 lety +1

    awesome choke

  • @Seansmithish
    @Seansmithish Před 3 lety +1

    My favorite choke, people don't think about it until its too late

  • @mattt688
    @mattt688 Před rokem

    this video is well made good in ya

  • @UrbanFavor
    @UrbanFavor Před 4 lety +1

    Guilotine from closed guard is a disaster waiting to happen. Always use modified guard

  • @coldsoldier313
    @coldsoldier313 Před rokem

    Such a sneaky choke

  • @bernie3075
    @bernie3075 Před rokem +1

    You could probably transition to an arm triangle if you feels his hands release too

  • @mrtravelhub4313
    @mrtravelhub4313 Před 3 lety +1

    Would be cool if you could make a video of Danahars Von flu choke counter to guiljotine, which craig Jones do.

  • @gregstokes7169
    @gregstokes7169 Před 3 lety +1

    You look super fit here brother.

  • @AH121_
    @AH121_ Před 3 lety +1

    2:32- that hit me hard😭

  • @hoah1158
    @hoah1158 Před rokem +1

    UFC Vegas 59 brought me here. Cheers mayte

  • @slbiggs36
    @slbiggs36 Před 3 lety +2

    Also known as The Freelance Gynecologist.

  • @slovak4life1991
    @slovak4life1991 Před 3 lety +1

    Tom “your shoulder won’t go in his neck” Davey.

  • @l-wolverine2211
    @l-wolverine2211 Před 2 lety

    Jason Von Flue innovated this choke back on 2006, and to this day, it’s still the most recent innovated submission.

  • @secohen73
    @secohen73 Před 7 měsíci

    I got caught in this when I first started, and it sucks. It's a good white belt sucker choke since they don't know to let go of the guillotine when you're cross body. Thanks for the tutorial!

  • @christuxford4462
    @christuxford4462 Před 6 lety +2

    Sweet! I need all the help I can get. I get caught in guillotine because I’m deficient in my takedown entry.

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 6 lety

      Practice this and squeeze and you will be getting taps not tapping really quickly! (-: Coach Tom Davey

  • @angel1al1977
    @angel1al1977 Před 3 lety +1

    Is their more than one method of force to the Von Flu choke?

  • @Samedang
    @Samedang Před 3 lety +1

    OSP is fighting now and I wanted to check out his fav move

    • @Samedang
      @Samedang Před 3 lety

      Update he just got pieced up by hill

  • @victorbravo7683
    @victorbravo7683 Před 2 lety +2

    Getting guillotined brought me here

    • @dudedog7914
      @dudedog7914 Před rokem

      Aka you're butthurt because your mom put you in head lock🤣

  • @jcorone2000
    @jcorone2000 Před 3 lety +1

    Should be called the OSP CHOKE.

  • @user-qw4ud5cj6j
    @user-qw4ud5cj6j Před rokem

    How do you do this without being swept? I find when I tripod and put all my weight on to that shoulder I’m exposed to being swept and I have been by guys good at that particular sweep

  • @hozza0411
    @hozza0411 Před 3 lety +1

    Just watched OSP finnishes just Brought he here

  • @brandonoei9818
    @brandonoei9818 Před 3 lety +1

    I wish i could give this another likee!

  • @timregalado1677
    @timregalado1677 Před rokem

    What can you do if they close the guard and block you from moving to side control?

  • @MbisonBalrog
    @MbisonBalrog Před 3 lety +1

    Will this work if applied from behind?

  • @artemthetrain14
    @artemthetrain14 Před 4 lety +3

    Wish I watched this before last night lol

  • @ritathecat6962
    @ritathecat6962 Před 3 lety +1

    I understood until 3:25. Now I have to reasses my life

  • @JMCustomMetal
    @JMCustomMetal Před 4 lety +1

    Unless they throw on the diesel squeezel, then you're in trouble haha.

  • @sethcummings4141
    @sethcummings4141 Před 4 lety +5

    I’m the tall skinny kid he’s talking about

  • @pablocas937
    @pablocas937 Před rokem

    Question?
    What if when jumping to the other side, he crosses his feet and closes guard?

  • @norcalmack
    @norcalmack Před 3 lety

    Can’t believe I’m getting excited about the next time someone puts me in a guillotine. Usually filled with dread about shooting a double and ending up choked out.

  • @5gallonsofwater495
    @5gallonsofwater495 Před rokem

    I keep getting guillotined by this dude from side control and its annoying because I know it ain't gonna do none but run the time. Appreciate you sir.

  • @dakotaruse1121
    @dakotaruse1121 Před 3 lety

    Saw a belator ref miss this choke and now I'm here

  • @zakariakamal2497
    @zakariakamal2497 Před 3 měsíci +1

    PFL brought me here 😂

  • @hairy5638
    @hairy5638 Před 5 lety +3

    Hey bro!! Sometimes when I do this choke when I tripod up to increase the pressure a bigger opponent can usually roll/reverse me and flip me over... if I don't tripod, I can't finish the choke. So I just don't even attempt it on big training partners .. any tips for this?? Bear in mind these training partners have 30kg on me

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 5 lety +1

      The smaller you are compared to them the better. This squeeze must eb practiced. smaller shoulders cut the neck better for the choke. The roll is the enemy. Work that squeeze ona dummy preferably. (-: Tom Davey

    • @andrewgiegerich523
      @andrewgiegerich523 Před 4 lety

      Walk the opposite way they try and roll may help

  • @mraBJJ33
    @mraBJJ33 Před 6 lety +2

    Does this choke cut off both sides of blood flow or just the side that your shoulder is against the neck?

    • @Mark64038
      @Mark64038 Před 6 lety +2

      it usually puts pressure on the wind pipe, i injured my wind pipe once pretty badly when i was beginner and somebody put me in a von flue choke . since then i learned that if he manages to pass, you should let go the guillotine immediately and try something else. So the answer is no, is not a blood flow choke, and i think you can defend it if you turn in some way that he doesn't put pressure on your wind pipe, and he puts on the side of the neck on one of the carotid arteries because since he can't pressure both of them, you will not go to sleep

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 6 lety +3

      Mostly it becomes and air choke but if done correctly feels much more like a blood choke especially on one side, I would label it as a general rule a hybrid choke where we have the wind pipe and one carotid arterty doing the job. (-: Coach Tom Davey

  • @denismolod
    @denismolod Před 3 lety

    What if guard legs are crossed ? 🤔🤔

  • @uncleheffe309
    @uncleheffe309 Před 5 lety +19

    I hate when pro fighters miss the opportunity for this move.

  • @naeemsarfraz9480
    @naeemsarfraz9480 Před 6 lety +2

    How can you prevent the person turning inwards bringing his legs round into your body?

    • @TheGrapplingAcademy
      @TheGrapplingAcademy  Před 6 lety

      The cross face should take care of that plus your blocking knee. Reguarding is not typically a problem with this choke. (-: Coach Tom Davey

    • @naeemsarfraz9480
      @naeemsarfraz9480 Před 6 lety +2

      The Grappling Academy Pulled it off for the first time last night after trying for the last few weeks. Now time to refine.
      Your videos rock, keep them coming!