I guess you answered my question toward the end of the video as to whether my clay tiles can be re-used. Foam was used during the installation, so I imagine it would be cost prohibitive due to the labor involved to remove it in order to re-use the tiles.
Thank you, I highly recommend them. Verea has a new tile out, the Caribbean style that are not that much more expensive and way worth it considering how much better they are and how much less maintenance work will be needed in the future. Let me know if you need anything.
You are very welcome, please let us know if we may be of service for roofing, waterproofing, impact windows, concrete restoration or painting in South Florida!
@@perkinsroofingcorp Sarasota,I wasn’t sure if you covered that area. Also, I was watching a ploystick video and he said where the underlayment overlaps you have to apply an adhesive or t wont stick.
@@l0jack We can work out on the west coast of FL, I have some homes out in Cape Coral area we are working on, however we have to add transportation and lodging costs. Yes, PG 500 will be installed, generally around hips, ridges, etc. where common overlap areas are. The membrane must also be backnailed at the top in order to avoid slippage. I've seen this not done in the winter where the cool air doesn't activate the adhesive as quickly and the roof just slides right off. The SA must be installed with heat and pressure. If it's cool, the installer should be using a leister.
Maybe idea with concrete use was in places with more wind, storm and to cut cost of repairs. Than concrete absorbs water it becomes more heavy, more weight less chancw they will be lifted
They're heavier, which weight can help with wind uplift, but the attachment method matters more than the weight per PSF and at certain wind speeds, it doesn't matter either way.
Thank you George, we are happy to provide as much information on roofing solutions as possible. If you have any roofing needs in South Florida, please let us know.
No, the bond is not the issue. Most people don't know this but the Polyglass SA (self adhered) has a better pull rating than hot mop or torch when applied correctly. Roofs very rarely fail from wind uplift - unless you are directly hit by a massive hurricane. The issue is deterioration of the felt at the top of the membrane due to water absorption through the tiles. Most of the time the primary failure points though are "details" at penetrations, valleys and wall terminations - which is why it's so important to pick a good contract, you have no idea how much shoddy work we see on a regular basis in South Florida. The other big one is termite and carpenter ant damage. A ton of people are moving to Florida from out of state right now and they have no idea how to upkeep a Florida home. Regular termite tenting, installing gutters, installing aluminum and STST rather than galv, re-sealing windows, painting stucco, etc.
Yes, we install two layers all of the time, one as a secondary water barrier; however not as two layers of TU Plus or TU Max. We install one layer of MTS Plus (as an insurance discounted secondary water barrier) and a top layer of TU Plus for a Polyglass 30 year warranty. We are one of only three Quantum Polyglass contractors in Florida. We have a video on this install on our CZcams account.
Any thoughts on composite tiles with a Spanish tile look (like Brava) vs. clay or concrete tile in regards to cost, durability, longevity? Thanks for such an informative video.
The composite tiles are pretty strong and don't really break, but they aren't as great for wind uplift from our experience. We have only done repairs with them and have not installed an entire composite tile roof to date, however after Irma there were a number of buildings in Ocean Reef, Key Largo where we had to replace a number of these tiles because they blew away in the storm.
When the underlayment has gone bad under an "Altusa" clay tile roof, are the clay tiles no longer of any use? My Altusa clay tile roof is around 25 years old now and has developed various leaks. Are the tiles salvaged or thrown away for new ones?
They’re not worth saving. It would cost more to try to save and clean them than to get new Verea Caribbean. Altusa are discontinued so you can’t replace the ones that break.
Wow! Thanks for the quick reply. I figured they’d have to be tossed. I’ve been debating whether to re-roof with tile again or metal. Thanks for the informative videos. I live in Broward, so am in a HVHZ
Is there a diferente between the concrete shapes tiles when it comes to durability. Basically I am trying to figure out if a shape is better than the other for hurricanes and possible lifting. Thank you in advance!
I wouldn't say one is better than the other, because it depends more on the brand and the grade, however "S" tiles are more cost effective as there are 88 pieces per 100 SF vs. 180 for barrel tile.
My question would be, are the weep holes supposed to gush water? I notice the front of my house pees water out of every weep hole way better than I could pee in my toilet, while the side and a good portion of the back do not. It starts immediately with light to moderate rain. It is a concrete tile roof newly installed. I would greatly appreciate your opinion.
The weep holes are there ventilation and for moisture that gets under the tiles to come out... seems like there is way too much moisture getting under the tiles if that's happening, you likely have some broken tiles up on the roof there is something wrong with the mortar or transition work.
Yes, I figured that much, and thank you for confirming. It should be an exciting conversation coming this Monday with the contractor. They are a reputable company, but the problem in Cape Coral is that after the hurricane, these companies are hiring 3rd string installers. They used all the right stuff but went wrong in the foam installation part, using too much foam and lifting the tile off the seams when the foam expanded, causing the water to get under the tile. Again, thanks for your input; your videos are great. I only wished I had watched this video before I installed a tile roof.
Slate will last much longer than concrete and longer than most clay tiles (except possibly Ludowici), but it's much more expensive and a completely different install method.
Sorry, wish I could, but I'm not familiar with contractors in the market. We can come up that way, but may be priced out as I would have to put my crew up in a hotel.
I'm from England, i had my roof done in 2004 payed 3000 pounds for a complete roof they used natural slate tiles could you please do a video on these tiles some day. thank you
We don't see many down in South Florida and I haven't installed a slate tile system myself, because they are so rare - only repairs. Next time we run across one, I'll make a vdieo.
Man, ludowici should be paying you tons of money for this video
@Ludowici I'm still waiting for my check. haha
Seems like if you want something that’s going to last a long time, then Metal or Ludowici.. thanks for the explanation, you did a great job
Thank you! Yes, standing seam metal is the way to go if you are going to be in the property for more than 10 years and your HOA allows it!
Here in SoCal both will go 35+ years with minor maintenance. Still have original concrete tile roof on our 87' build, no leaks currently.
Great video!
The price is higher but the cost is less. Price is what you pay, Value is what you get.
I am going to caption that - perfectly said.
I guess you answered my question toward the end of the video as to whether my clay tiles can be re-used. Foam was used during the installation, so I imagine it would be cost prohibitive due to the labor involved to remove it in order to re-use the tiles.
Yes, it can be done, but it’s really only worth it for Ludowici tiles.
We get lots of rain here and people would be shocked to know that they will have to get a new roof every 20 years. I guess its the Florida sun effect
Yes, sun, wind, rain - we get all of the fun stuff in South Florida that damage roofs.
Great video buddy we are building atm and been pricing things up concrete is cheaper but clay ones are tempting me
Thank you, I highly recommend them. Verea has a new tile out, the Caribbean style that are not that much more expensive and way worth it considering how much better they are and how much less maintenance work will be needed in the future. Let me know if you need anything.
Great info! Thank you!
You are very welcome, please let us know if we may be of service for roofing, waterproofing, impact windows, concrete restoration or painting in South Florida!
Great video! Trying to get up to speed on Florida clay/concrete roofing systems as my dads roof needs replacement and I'm evaluating bids.
Excellent, yes clay tiles are far superior and are more readily available in South Florida right now. Where is your dad located, maybe we can help!
@@perkinsroofingcorp Sarasota,I wasn’t sure if you covered that area. Also, I was watching a ploystick video and he said where the underlayment overlaps you have to apply an adhesive or t wont stick.
@@l0jack We can work out on the west coast of FL, I have some homes out in Cape Coral area we are working on, however we have to add transportation and lodging costs.
Yes, PG 500 will be installed, generally around hips, ridges, etc. where common overlap areas are. The membrane must also be backnailed at the top in order to avoid slippage. I've seen this not done in the winter where the cool air doesn't activate the adhesive as quickly and the roof just slides right off. The SA must be installed with heat and pressure. If it's cool, the installer should be using a leister.
Great Video. This video answered a lot of my questions
Thank you, we appreciate the feedback.
Maybe idea with concrete use was in places with more wind, storm and to cut cost of repairs. Than concrete absorbs water it becomes more heavy, more weight less chancw they will be lifted
They're heavier, which weight can help with wind uplift, but the attachment method matters more than the weight per PSF and at certain wind speeds, it doesn't matter either way.
Many thanks for the deep information bro!!
Thank you! Happy to help and love to serve the South Florida area from the Keys up to Fort Pierce.
@@perkinsroofingcorp If am ever around there and need roofing I know who to call...but as it is am in the east coast...of Africa!!!
@@mainamaseeti Awesome! haha glad our content can help teach roofing everywhere!
Great information appreciate the breakdown
Thank you, always looking to educate the masses on roofing!
many thanks, very informative video
No problem, please feel free to let us know if we may be of service. Our service area is South Florida from Port St. Lucie down to the keys.
great explanation.
Thank you George, we are happy to provide as much information on roofing solutions as possible. If you have any roofing needs in South Florida, please let us know.
Does the underlayment adhesive bond fail, is that the issue? And if so, why not use an elastomeric waterproofing over the wood deck instead?
No, the bond is not the issue. Most people don't know this but the Polyglass SA (self adhered) has a better pull rating than hot mop or torch when applied correctly. Roofs very rarely fail from wind uplift - unless you are directly hit by a massive hurricane.
The issue is deterioration of the felt at the top of the membrane due to water absorption through the tiles.
Most of the time the primary failure points though are "details" at penetrations, valleys and wall terminations - which is why it's so important to pick a good contract, you have no idea how much shoddy work we see on a regular basis in South Florida.
The other big one is termite and carpenter ant damage. A ton of people are moving to Florida from out of state right now and they have no idea how to upkeep a Florida home. Regular termite tenting, installing gutters, installing aluminum and STST rather than galv, re-sealing windows, painting stucco, etc.
Does anyone ever apply 2 layers of Polystick underlayment or doesn’t it extend the life of the roof?
Yes, we install two layers all of the time, one as a secondary water barrier; however not as two layers of TU Plus or TU Max. We install one layer of MTS Plus (as an insurance discounted secondary water barrier) and a top layer of TU Plus for a Polyglass 30 year warranty. We are one of only three Quantum Polyglass contractors in Florida. We have a video on this install on our CZcams account.
Any thoughts on composite tiles with a Spanish tile look (like Brava) vs. clay or concrete tile in regards to cost, durability, longevity? Thanks for such an informative video.
The composite tiles are pretty strong and don't really break, but they aren't as great for wind uplift from our experience. We have only done repairs with them and have not installed an entire composite tile roof to date, however after Irma there were a number of buildings in Ocean Reef, Key Largo where we had to replace a number of these tiles because they blew away in the storm.
Do you have any "ceetile" concrete tiles in your boneyard.
When the underlayment has gone bad under an "Altusa" clay tile roof, are the clay tiles no longer of any use? My Altusa clay tile roof is around 25 years old now and has developed various leaks. Are the tiles salvaged or thrown away for new ones?
They’re not worth saving. It would cost more to try to save and clean them than to get new Verea Caribbean. Altusa are discontinued so you can’t replace the ones that break.
Wow! Thanks for the quick reply. I figured they’d have to be tossed. I’ve been debating whether to re-roof with tile again or metal. Thanks for the informative videos. I live in Broward, so am in a HVHZ
Is there a diferente between the concrete shapes tiles when it comes to durability. Basically I am trying to figure out if a shape is better than the other for hurricanes and possible lifting. Thank you in advance!
Great video, very informative.
As for the clay tiles, is S tile a better option over barrel tile?
Thank you in advance,
I wouldn't say one is better than the other, because it depends more on the brand and the grade, however "S" tiles are more cost effective as there are 88 pieces per 100 SF vs. 180 for barrel tile.
@@perkinsroofingcorp thank you so much for the prompt response. We are considering the brand Verea grade 1.
@@yulybrito9984 It's a great tile, we can get you in touch with the Verea rep. upon your request.
Wow now that I am almost at the end of the video I am re considering the flat tile I wanted :/
Thanks for the information - do you take jobs in Coconut Creek? If so I would like to get an estimate.
All the time, please give us a call at our office (305) 687-6521 and the office team can schedule your estimate.
My question would be, are the weep holes supposed to gush water? I notice the front of my house pees water out of every weep hole way better than I could pee in my toilet, while the side and a good portion of the back do not. It starts immediately with light to moderate rain. It is a concrete tile roof newly installed. I would greatly appreciate your opinion.
The weep holes are there ventilation and for moisture that gets under the tiles to come out... seems like there is way too much moisture getting under the tiles if that's happening, you likely have some broken tiles up on the roof there is something wrong with the mortar or transition work.
Yes, I figured that much, and thank you for confirming. It should be an exciting conversation coming this Monday with the contractor. They are a reputable company, but the problem in Cape Coral is that after the hurricane, these companies are hiring 3rd string installers. They used all the right stuff but went wrong in the foam installation part, using too much foam and lifting the tile off the seams when the foam expanded, causing the water to get under the tile. Again, thanks for your input; your videos are great. I only wished I had watched this video before I installed a tile roof.
which state are your company is ? I am in IL
Florida, we are in the SE section designated HVHZ (High Velocity Hurricane Zone).
how do natural slate compare to tile?
Slate will last much longer than concrete and longer than most clay tiles (except possibly Ludowici), but it's much more expensive and a completely different install method.
Can you recommend a good roofing company in Volusia County that is knowledgeable abut tile roofs
Sorry, wish I could, but I'm not familiar with contractors in the market. We can come up that way, but may be priced out as I would have to put my crew up in a hotel.
Thank You For The Reply
@@Robert-fx9vl No problem, we are happy to help when we can and are already traveling west to help out after Hurricane Ian.
You forgot to mention the temperature difference between concrete and clay.
In regards to solar reflectivity, that is variable depending on the color of the tile just as much as the material.
Where can I buy samples of the clay tile?
Once you find a roofer you like (hopefully us if we service your area - South Florida?), the contractor can provide you samples for free.
Hello you have a outlet in cebu city
No, we are based in South Florida with current branches in Miami and Jupiter.
a tile is for a house
a shingle is for a shed
if you have shingles on your house you live in a glorified shed
Damn…brutal.
Concrete tiles are garbage😂😂😂
Haha, this is not even including the fact the lead time on the concrete tiles in South Florida is atrocious.
I'm from England, i had my roof done in 2004 payed 3000 pounds for a complete roof they used natural slate tiles could you please do a video on these tiles some day. thank you
We don't see many down in South Florida and I haven't installed a slate tile system myself, because they are so rare - only repairs. Next time we run across one, I'll make a vdieo.
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