2020 KTM 200 Duke Review | MC Commute
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2020
- KTM campaigns on “a Duke naked motorcycle for everyone” with the introduction of its affordable 200 Duke ($3,999). Although new for the US market, the 2020 Duke 200 is a second-generation platform that boasts a fully redesigned engine as compared to the existing 390 Duke.
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Although small in terms of displacement (and price), the Duke 200 is big on capability-as we learned after riding it in the city, around the go-kart track, and across autobahn-like SoCal freeways. With its low seat and 340-pound curb weight, the Duke is easy to ride for virtually any able-bodied person. It’s nimble, easy to park, yet it feels like a real 3/4-sized motorcycle as compared to minimoto bikes from Big Red and Team Green. Sensible ergonomics make for a comfortable cockpit for a wide range of riders, including this 6-foot pilot. There’s also room for a passenger.
KTM has a knack for engineering good-performing single-cylinder engines, and this 199cc power unit is one of its finest. The engine offers a smooth spread of propulsion with a rev-happy powerband. We are especially keen on the 10,000 rpm power surge/hit which makes for a more entertaining ride. Although the engine is only good for 22 ponies at the business end of the Michelin Road 5 tire (and 13.13 pound-feet at 8,060 rpm), the Duke can accelerate hard from a stop for those not afraid of working the six-speed gearbox. It is freeway capable too, with an 87 mph top speed. It’s easy on fuel, as well, with it averaging 51 mpg during high-rpm riding.
Even at high speeds, the engine isn’t as buzzy as other singles, including KTM’s own 390. It also offers a pleasing and meaty-sounding exhaust note. The suspension components offer nearly 5 inches of travel and deliver fair ride quality over rough pavement, yet still provide acceptable damping at a sport-oriented pace. You’re still going to feel big bumps, but it rides well for its price.
The OE-fitted Michelins have plenty of grip for a trackday, and the ABS-enabled brakes are equally capable. Rear ABS can be manually disabled, if desired. A more simple LCD keeps tabs on machine vitals. It’s a tad small, yet again, considering its price, we won’t knock it. There’s no LED lighting either, but the halogen-bulb headlight performs better than expected during night rides.
This KTM 200 is more adept than any other sub-250cc-displacement bikes we’ve ridden recently. It’s easy to ride, has enough power to get the blood pumping, and offers a level of exhilaration, even in a more experienced rider’s hands. Then, of course, there’s its appearance. We’re big fans of its aggressive praying mantis-like lines, which are in line with the rest of the Duke family. Build quality and fit and finish also show tremendous improvement from first-generation 390s. Riders seeking a fun, affordable, and versatile bike regardless of their level of expertise will appreciate the fun-sized factor of KTM’s 200 Duke.
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Entertaining, informative and fun to watch as always, especially with the small displacement bikes.
Very nice.
How much do you weigh
“if i was 16 years old i would totally want this thing” *me a 16 year old preparing a speech and presentation to convince my parents to let me buy a motorcycle*
Just point to gas prices and promise you will drive it in the winter.
I need to know what you would say. I am 16 and I need a good pitch to sell my mom on it. My dad is on board but not mom
Basta dizerem que o 'Andy cresceu"
Just did 754 miles across the desert and up to Big Bear Lake CA I can hit 90 MPH in a tuck and 85 MPG so far I have 1300 miles on her and this is my 24th bike.
I live down the 38 and will be going up to big bear soon. How did it do going up the highway?
@@silky_smooth9475 just fine and I went up on the backside with the steep grades.
Love MC Commutes whatever the bike. Thanks for riding bikes for all ages and wallet-sizes. Great work!
Great review Adam! Very thorough. I really appreciate the go kart track and night time riding scenes. Keep up the great work!
Best part is that you didnt have to do this review coming from R6's and Street Triples but you did it ! Thank you Adam !
I own a 2019 Duke 200 that i bought after a 12 year wait due to football injuries and other reasons, but I absolutely love it. Moreover, it has made me a better rider. I swear by it and i love the character.
Love, From India
bro iam in college should i buy it how is the mileage in India
Thanks for doing the review after the break-in. Now the power is uncorked. Also thanks for riding in multiple environments!
Man, riding smaller bike's are always a blast to ride !
Nice complete review! Well Done Adam!
Thanks man.
I had a duke 200 2019 and it was amazing tbh. It's the best city motorcycle. It was just fun ! Tons of it. And no vibrations for me at all.
Im 38 , have experience on dirt bike for a couple years in trails and woods. Decided to finally ride on street. Perfect for learning for me . Going to hone my skills with it before moving up.
Great review, and really enjoyed your enthusiasm!
I am an Indian and here the 390 Duke is considered a fast bike for our road and traffic conditions. 200 duke is a fantastic bike for our conditions.
I love my KTM 200, lots of fun and easy to stay out of trouble.
I have such a soft spot for KTM, not sure why
Maybe they appeal to my inner ten year old 🤔
I love ktm! They look amazing I love the orange painted frames on almost all their bikes.
I just bought one..love it..
My friend Scott is picking his 390 up 1 night this week. I plan on buying a 390 after my MSF course. By the way we're both 12 year olds on the inside..lol
Great review, and gave me a good feeling for how it handles, and what it feels like. Admittedly, I puckered up a bit having ridden for almost 30 years in a state that doesn’t allow bridging gaps. 😂
I normally ride an 1150gs, but it’s just too big anymore for the traffic in metro denver, and I think the little duke will be a perfect city bike. Your review confirms that. -Looks like it’s incredibly easy to throw around without much effort.
They targeted it for beginners, but I think it makes a LOT of sense for experienced riders who are just looking for a commuter bike.
Thanks for the thorough review, and ride safe.
I live in San Jose and I’ve noticed a lot of experienced riders commute on small modern sportbikes or maxi-scooters.
Been 2 months since I got my CB 300R, Adam's videos sealed the deal for me, must say he wasn't wrong! :)
How have you liked the bike so far? I am seriously considering purchasing one as my first bike!
I've got the older model Duke 200. Very fun bike to ride in the city and twisty road. Got good torque for small bike. Give it a try if you're a beginner.
This bike will push more sales of the 390 then the 490 when released. Americans love to default to the "middle" package for cars and other large electronic/appliance purchases so now the 390 wont be the smallest offering and will make people more comfortable of buying the medium sized bike. genius...
I really like that camera angle on the go-kart track!
Thanks. Good thorough review. Now I’m considering it as a bike to get back into riding.
I think this is the perfect bike for me. I love the size, price and performance.
Thanks for the real world report Adam. So glad you found it to your liking. One of these is gonna find a home in our garage very soon.
I was about to get the 2020 Duke 200 for $3,999 but my dealership up in Poway gave me a hell of a deal on the 2020 Duke 390 for $4,799 so I swooped that up instead with no dealer mark up!
How is it?
It’s great. Very easy to handle, takes corners really nicely, breaks feel solid, and the ergonomics of the bike keeps me riding for longer periods. Takes off really well and shifting is a breeze. I even enjoy taking her on the freeway. The seat is 50/50, it doesn’t bother me or some of my friends at all and feels pretty comfortable but there is also a few of my buddies that don’t like it after about 45 mins of riding. The range with the tank is decent as well.
Plus every time I think the bike can’t give me anymore I get surprised as she just keeps giving. When you can’t stop smiling when riding you know you got a good bike on your hands.
All in all great beginners bike and even seasoned riders will have a blast on the Duke 390.
Highly recommend this bike to any and everyone!
So many issues, at least with the RC390 that I was super considered and struck KTM off my list.
I'm hopefully picking something up tomorrow, so I'll be off the market for a while (I'm an experienced rider).
I know there was issues with the previous yrs (17-19 if I’m not mistaken) for the Duke 390 but I believe they addressed those issues with the 2020 model. I haven’t had any issues and my sales rep even included and 5 yr extended warranty for the engine with unlimited miles for me just to be on the safe side.
As for the RC390 I have heard that has had it’s more than it’s fair share of issues which kept me away from the RC all together. I didn’t even wanna test ride it because of all the issues I’ve heard with them. Thankfully KTM is coming out with a revamped RC390 in 2022 that is suppose to address those issues plus give a nice upgraded look.
Awesome to hear you’re getting another bike regardless of make and model. Anything with 2 wheels and an engine that goes with the twist of the wrist is good times.
Stay Safe and Ride Vigilantly!
Poway power sports I bought bikes there too great dealer
84 MPH is WAY more than my 51 year old self would need. I'm taking motorcycle training this weekend. It will be the first time I ever ride a bike and this Duke 200 is one of the models I'm looking at along with the Royal Enfield Meteor 350, Yamaha MT-03, Yamaha V Star 250 and Honda CB300r.
what did you settle on? Taking my first motorcyle training in a month and looking for a starting bike. This one is on my radar.
Camera was pointed too low my man
"ADAM!!!" Wow!! thanks for that great review. Your someone I can trust when it comes to bikes.
I was blown away to see that KTM brought the Duke 200 here (loved that the 390 Adventure is here now too, loved your review on it as well) to the US. This pop up on my phone searches when looking at a bikes.
I'm defiantly looking to get something soon and was looking for a bigger displacement in the 900cc realm, but just love the 300 class bikes too.
Thank again and hope to hear from you.
Art Aguilar
Once Dainese USA Warranty Manager
will we be seeing an RC200 too? I've been eyeing an RC390 for a very light sport bike
Great review
very clear and informative ,
Took a test ride on one of these today. What a gas it is! Excellent combination of good fittings, excellent tuning, slick gear box, and super affordable price.
Having ridden this and the CB300R, I think this is more comfortable and better handling, if slower🤷🏼♂️
A lil slower or damn near same speed? Saw one of these for 2.5k where a cbr is 3.5-4k used. Price difference worth the speed?
@@onyx_might72 the KTM is slower, top speed realistically is mid 80s mph. But, having ridden both, the KTM feels nicer and is better equipped, and is all around a better value, in my opinion.
does it have a quick shifter? that 200? the way you shift its like it has a quick shifter
I bought one in Australia a few days ago, I don’t know where you get some of the facts from but some need to be reviewed.
The seat height IS the same as the 390, the size and all dimensions are the same.
Almost all parts will swap over to the 390.
Swapping to a aftermarket exhaust is impossible currently as this bike uses a completely different exhaust layout than the other smaller Duke 125 to 390 models.
I am looking to see if the aftermarket exhaust from cylinder head back can be made to fit.
(So exhaust goes over the top of the motor like a 390) this will increase the ground clearance by 100 mm.
I work at a KTM dealer, will keep investigating:)
Just fitted a 15 tooth front sprocket, now can use more of the gears. Do not recommend if living in a hilly area as first becomes very tall.
Do you think they're worth getting for a beginner?
@@tyler7659 yes, they are a small bike but have a real big bike feel, brakes/steering/gearbox/suspension tight and light.
As long as not having a lot of freeway with a 110 kph or 70 mph to do it’s a fun bike.
I’ve owned a ZX7r, CBR600f4i, GSXR600k7, MT07 and now 50 years old. Been without a road bike for 4 years.
It’s weird to go up 6 gears to 70 KPH, any of the above bikes would still be in first
Sorry, but the 390 is not the same as the 200...the 125 is.
And it also has 25 horses not 22. But maybe it's different in the us
did you find anything suitable for more sound coming from the exhaust? without harming the engine.
Are they any good for a bit of gentle off roading ?
Obv it's not a a real off roader ilke other ktms but still ...?
In India this bike including all taxes and insurance is just under $3000 and you can get a 390 for $4000.
Maybe because it's made in India.
@@hector1094 Yeah of course. So is the case with Royal Enfield bikes.
Not any more
@matty d By spending less money we are getting same quality. U r idiots who gave more money
@matty d Wdym "countries that don't have money"? You seem triggered for no reason.
Just bought one to use as a commuter. So anxious to have it delivered.
Unbelievable how well it does on the freeway, literally twice the bike my TW200 is and still significantly quicker than my CRF300L as well. Might have to pick one up just for cheap and comfy freeway rides (the 300L is too buzzy and uncomfortable for long stretches).
How are the maintenance intervals with such a totally jacked up 200cc motor?
one of my favorate bike idol hoping one day i can buy it
Adam is by far the best SoCal street rider on CZcams, He splits lanes, when there is only one lane💯👍🏽🏍😂
Would you recommend this for a complete beginner? I just need a bike to get to the office and back to home, and commuting.
I like to ride my son's FZ6R sometimes but also love riding my S1000R and somehow these smaller displacement bikes draw me to them. The freeway performance of the 200 seems almost as good as a G650GS that I had. Great review!
Do you feel comfortable riding the 200 Duke on the highway?
@@irinachernikova8825 I would feel okay on the highway based on this review.
Lets be clear, KTM has designed and sold the 200 Duke for Asia where it has been sold for years, importing it to the USA was hardly much effort and helps to justify the higher price of the 390! In many SE Asian countries sub 200 cc scooters are the norm, so by comparison, the 200 Duke is actually a performance bike!
Exactly! I had a 2018 Duke 200 here in Manila. I just smoked all other bikes on the road.
I bought a 2020 duke 200 6 weeks ago and I have no regrets. I’ve had supermotos and a few r6s. This bike is so much fun!
hey man, just wondering if your having any overheating issues? Cheers !!
@@johnpoe5569 sorry, just saw your comment. I have 400 miles on my bike and zero issues other than the going in and out of neutral very rarely. Bike does run 2 bars below max temp but no problems, fan kicks on. Is that common?
What are your height/weight stats? Sorry if you mentioned it in the video and I didn’t hear it.
whats the top speed of 200cc? I working on a custom chopper sports like bike with 200cc custom modified enginge.
Great review, thank you! I wish this 200 were offered in the same size as a Grom/Z125. I would buy 2 today.
No,I tire of my Grom really quick,its too small.
Ah, shame to hear. We never tire of our 2 Groms since 2015 and even our Z125 we added in 2017, 3 fun bikes to ride together. Ride safe and have fun.
How are you in 5th in 60 mph? I got a 200 and in 48 mph it says to shift to 6th
If Grom’s could actually maintain 60 mph they would be a great commuter bike. This 200 is a real motorcycle for the same price. Almost 3 times the horsepower
Adam Waheed, did you redline it to 11,500 RPMs ?
how much dollar it takes .to fill up 12 liter of duke tanky.
They have been making the Duke 200 for 10 years now. Double channel ABS added in 2019. Much smoother now. More fun than the 250. Same chassis as the 390. Very capable overall
Wow, they put road 5's on this, nice!
Thanks for the thorough review. I'm a daily cruiser rider that needs something for in town because I'm tired of dragging. This seems like a fun, cheap little ripper and there's a used one for only 2k near me. Funny how easy money flies away when you're into bikes.
Thank you KTM and Adam Waheed for such an awesome and relevant motorcycle/review!
This little bike IS the gap filler between “mini Moto” bikes that can’t do highway speeds safely and boring “commuter” designed bikes - Adam gets it - I can’t understand why the majority of the motorcycling public shuns a model such as this; it retails for “grom” money but it’s still a fun bike that can do highway speeds all day - while looking stunning and competent handling all at the same time - well done - I hope we see a LOT more bikes like this in the future - they just make sense in this ever more expensive world… fun at the same time responsible - great review!
7:00
splitting between tight traffic, the usual habitat for the Duke in the city, haha.
Dukes world over are the same
Hey Chase, great review! We enjoyed watching! Would you consider doing a 2nd ride on the Duke 200? I think yours might have been limited at speed. There’s a video posted by another dude in SoCal, and he’s cruising at 80mph….
Bad ass bike. Going to buy one.
I bought one 6 weeks ago as soon as it was delivered to dealer. I have no regrets because it is a blast to ride!
Hoping to get this in a few weeks!!
can we install the saddle stay in it
Why can't we split lanes like that in Nevada?
I think I want one now
I watch u didn't use the clutch while put the gear why?
Great review, however all I could focus on was that the high beam indicator was on :D
I have this bike since 2014 and it still keeps me smiling everyday
Also is ur high beam not causing trouble for the drivers coming from opposite side ?
Hate it when people ride with their high beams on during the day. It’s dumb and annoying.
@@Truth_Spoken It's to be seen! You don't blind people during the daytime. I've been riding over 50 years and have logged 250K miles and have never even had a close call during the day with my brights on. I first learned about this in a motorcycle magazine in the 1980's
What’s with the orange warning light in the upper center of the gauge?
Shift indicator. Factory set to 7300rpm and again at 10500 rpm. After first service (600 miles) you can set shift light to whatever you want
if you change the stock tire to dirt tire. can it perform very well on off road? are there any pros and cons when it changed to dirt tires (on off road)
The suspensions aren't that good for dirt riding.
Can you do a review of the rc200 ??
Sweet little bike.
While you might not be aware of it, but the Duke 200 engine is older than that of Duke 390's. It existed even before Duke 390 came in this world.
It was in year 2012 that KTM partnered with Bajaj in India and started producing Duke 125 and Duke 200 at its Chakan plant near Pune. Since India is a price sensitive market, Duke 125 was not launched here at that time - only Duke 200 was launched and it became an instant hit in India.
Duke 200 won the hearts because of its manic performance(for its class) and the unbeatable value for money.
Encouraged by the success of these models KTM launched Duke 390 in India and other countries in 2013. Duke 390 proved to be an even greater value for money in Indian market and it immediately became the darling of biking enthusiasts in the country.
So the bottom-line is -> Duke 200 was born in the year 2012 and Duke 390 in 2013. But of course in US market these bikes came much later.
The 200 IS basically a 390 engine with a big fat lining pushed in the barrel to reduce the bore to 200cc. The head stud spacings is huge for its bore size, I’ve looked the parts breakdown at work. (KTM dealership)I would love to see if the actual head and barrel from a 390 would work on a 200.
I guess this is why there seams to be a lot less mechanical issues (with the older 200) as it’s unstressed.
@@vintagetintrader1062 That's good to know. I've always liked the 390 but never seriously considered getting it because of the reliability issues. If the 200 is essentially a less stressed version of the 390, then I wouldn't be worried buying one.
@@mazdaweeb3 but the 2020 duke 200 is different from the older once. You might want to look it up the difference between the old and new. It's like the v2 of duke 200 is an entirely different engine from the older version so KTM hasn't seen yet the flaws of the new engine that they made. This is not to discourage you to buy one but I'm just stating th fact that the 2020 duke 200 is not the same as the older model.
No windshield?
I love your MC Commutes. This one had your camera angle too low, seeing just asphalt and the instrument cluster way too much.
Thanks for these KTM reviews. Dealership here doesn't allow any test rides. One other problem is the high Dealer fees they charge make an inexpensive bike not worth buying.
What state?
Nothing worse than a dealership charging $200 assembly, $400 freight and $300 processing on a bike under $5k.
@@thatsallfolks3115 Florida
@@PracticalTacticalSheepDog Exactly
@Andy Freeman Thanks. I hope so.
Can u make a video about a gsxs 750
"Oops stalled it." Been there, done that. 😁
As salamu Alaykum my name is Aamir and i have ktm 200 and i have a question which is not answered by ktm. The bike has a rpm setting rpm 1 and 2 which is changed after 1st service. I want to know what digits i should put in the rpm 1 and rpm 2. Can you elaborate what happens if i put low or high digits in rpm & rpm2
It's just a reminder where you want to shift , it activates the flashing light, set it for where you like to shift .
I was gonna get this one until I saw the new duke 2024 399,I do like it that it only goes to 87 mph especially for beginners still fast enough to get on highway as a commuter bike for errands an going to work,the headlights I'd like to be led like on the 390 but they work,so hopefully in a couple months I'll have enough money to get my new duke 390 an start riding before summer,ty
Would this be good for someone thats 5'2?
Absolutely..the seat height isn't that high..
U can atleast have one leg down at a time without dropping the bike
The KTM website does not specify the curb weight for the 200 Duke.
It does say the 390 Duke weighs in at 328lbs.
This video calls the 200 Duke 340lbs.
If this is true, then why is it heavier than the 390??
I saw on the net it weighs 308 lbs wet
No its not heavier than the 390. Its almost 30 lbs lighter
Pleases me to see small engines expanded upon
Would this be a good alternative to the Grom?
The Grom is the motorcycling equivalent of riding a garden gnome; this Duke is the pink flamingo. The grom is like those cube cars, dorky yet cool.
When you say bigger rider, what do you mean by that? I’m abt 5’10 170 a lil chubby, should I go for a bigger bike?
Not really, I'm 5 ft 10 and I fit the duke perfectly.
It´s a great bike for that small cc.
Sad to hear that the new version only had 22Hp... the previous version of the Duke 200 had 26Hp.
4hp are not to much but in a small bike like this you can feel that difference.
Anyways, it a great bike!
He said 22hp at the Michelins, so maybe they measured 22hp at the tire. It's probably making more at the crank, the issue for me is the low torque ouput, less than 20Nm and peaks way too high.
It's 26Hp at crank, 22 at wheel
@@stock_biker our model here in asia makes 25 at the crank and 20.3 at the wheel. the 250 makes 30 at the crank 23 to the wheel.
also it only costs $2200 here.
@@rjtastic damn if it cost that in the US I'd buy it today.
In Singapore, this bike costs close to USD14000 excluding our road tax and insurance. And you can only ride it for 10years. After that, you will have to fork out a few thousand more to ride it for another 10 years.
This bike is a hoot...plus you can get out the door with EVERYTHING for less than $4000 (setup, tax, tag). No body offers this value which is why the Ninja 250 WAS the go to for new riders and cheap new bikes. Dealers are coming way off the MSRP and this bike is worth your while. My dealer came down to $2799 sale price.
How much out the door
@@dcon89able, $3800
These little bikes are great for lane splitting in gridlocked.
I want this as a commuter bike.
For the vets out here. I'm trying to get 1st bike. If price difference between these and used MT03 or cb300r is 2k used should I buy a 200 and mod it to get more performance with a grand? Or ain't even worth it?
Cause I see the max mph is only like 10mph-15mph difference. Would sprockets, exhaust, intake and a tune make up the difference? I hear this engine has more performance in it but has been gutted for emissions. If I'm wrong please inform me ,don't want to waste money on crap
Can you do wheelies?
How tall, heavy is reviewer?
What about the ktm duke 125 why dont we have it in the u.s.a
KTM DUKE fan from Tamil Nadu India 😀
Review the KTM 690 SMCR.
dude they didn't change the dash on the america one lol, here in Singapore the Duke 125 has the lcd dash though
hahah
Pfft I would never buy this bike! If it was my only one. Just brought a Duke 200 home today to compliment my Street Triple 765 RS. What a fun bike and looks pretty bad ass.
I might be a good bike to get as a starter
If only the 200 comes with the TFT dash like the 390. But then again, like you said they had to cut the cost somewhere.
cb300r costed me the same in india
Oh damn, it has a quick shifter? Really starting to look more seriously at this bike now!
whats the fuel consumption? how many kilometers per liter?
If you ride like the way shown here, on open roads, you can expect 28-35 km per litre.
Isn’t lane splitting like that highly illegal?
No, not in CA
It’s cute but the only thing I like is the orange rear subframe which should be on the 390