Am I still loving the 23zero rooftop tent ?
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- after running the rooftop tent for nearly 6 months now I've decided I know it well enough to run through the pro's & con's of the 23zero dakota 1400 rooftop tent
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so glad i watched these vids, waiting for mine to arrive, great stuff
You've sold me on this one. Solid videos
I have just started watching your channel. Thanks for the open honest no BS reviews. I watch ALL videos till the end.
Thank you I really appreciate the support 👍 if you intend on making videos to help people you have to be open or honest or else there's no point
Really enjoy your videos mate. Very informative and genuine. Cheers
Thank you 😀👍
Subscribed. Loved it, honest, informative and easy to listen to. Love your backdrop mate, epic spot.
Cheers mate I appreciate the support 👍I try to be as honest and open as possible in all my videos. My latest video will be dropping tonight sometime. Exploring the Flinders Ranges 😀
You have sold me on this tent!
I've had mine for two months and abolsuteky love it!!!
Great to hear mate 👍
Thankyou for changing my mind on the RTT i was going to get.. looked at kings.. quickly wrote that one off after your previous vids..
Now it was between Darche trepidor 1400 or this one.. looks like im going the 23 zero!
Glad I could help mate 👍
Another great review and yes I did watch till the end lol
Thanks mate 👍 if only everyone would do the same 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. Cheers.
Glad you found it helpful mate 👍
THank you for the Vlog. Im in the market for a roof top tent so have been following your exploits and adventures. I chuckled a little when your first "Con" was the strap going from black to gray 😝.. A con ? some peeps might think its cute.. Keep up the good work
Yeah only because the sun had faded the strap meaning it was more prone to breaking due to the sun damage. I still rate it as a great soft top rooftop tent 👍
Nice one, I bought this tent based on your review thanks. Also, that is the problem with Kings, anytime you want a warranty claim or refund, you will eventually get it but you have to push and escalate it. Eg: I bought a battery box, took it home and realised it wouldn't fit my battery, so I took it back for a refund. It took 3 months for that refund to come back to me.
You'll love the 23zero rooftop tent 👍 4wdsupacentre definitely aren't the quickest or easiest to deal with when it comes to warranty lol
This looks much better. Glad they finally came through with warranty, it's sad that it took a you tube video to get them to do what they should have done in the first place, but at least it's sorted for you now. It's good to hear that you added that in this video, accurate feedback is always best on reviews 👍
Yeah I'm very happy with the resolution. I added into the description of the other video as well so people would know it got resolved 👍
@@Campingdownunder your transparency will serve you well mate, there's too many sneaky donkeys with channels that try to pull the wool over our eyes, much prefer your style. I'm now binge watching your channel 😆😂🤣
Haha people can tell if you are bullshitting or just plugging products. It gets old quickly. I'd rather be upfront with everything. Best way to be 👍
4wd supercentre would not have helped you if you didn’t have a Chanel. Don’t get fooled, their company was literally founded on cash for comment.
Bro, got to say, you’ve got a new subscriber . There was a Dakota 1400 on marketplace cheap.
I watched you review and grabbed it. Stoked. Sorting a lighting kit for it now
You'll love it mate 👍
Just installed our Walkabout 62 last Friday, first night in it we had a hot ember from the fire burn a hole in the rainfly! So bummed about that but totally our fault! I think it is going to be a great tent! We did a youtube LIVE first setup on our tent you should check out!
Yeah it's a fantastic rooftop tent 😀 nice setup on the back of the Ute 👍
Starting to have minor issues with mine. The Velcro that holds the tent down when folded up have ripped off the nylons straps. Like it’s gone rotten at the edges and ripped out of the stitching. My straps that go over the cover have also faded & the Velcro doesn’t stick too well anymore. I have a few more tiny spots where the LST has come off. And agree the entry door is too small my head gets stuck up the top too, probably not an issue for a shorter person, I’m 175cm tall. But keeping in mind this tent gets used almost everyday, set up in afternoon and packed up next morning & the NQ sun is a lot stronger then down south, it’s holding up damn pretty well. And you love all the things I do. The big windows are awesome!
Have you tried contacting 23zero regarding the straps? If it's still under warranty I'm sure they'll be more than happy to send you out replacement straps. I've replaced straps in the past on my adventure kings rooftop tent and they are very easy to change over. Unfortunately Velcro doesn't last forever in the elements
@@Campingdownunder not yet but I will I’ve just had so much going on I keep forgetting to email them and the buckles still hold it down tightly anyway for now. And yes their customer service is spot on so I can’t see myself having any issues for replacements. Definitely not sorry I got the 23Zero tent over the others.
Hey mate, love yours videos so much. Thanks for making great non bs content! Can you give me a measurement of the inside to inside of the rooftop tent please, width and length.
Keep up the great video work!!
Thanks mate I'm glad you are enjoying my content 👍 unfortunately I can't do that at the moment as my cars being repaired and doesn't even have a motor in it lol. Hopefully get it back next week sometime 🤞
But if you send 23zero a message on instagram or shoot them an email I'm sure they can answer your question straight away 👍
Love the review and the honest opinion.
Bit of a shame that you have to have a CZcams channel before they’ll honour a warranty..
They apologised for the particular person I was dealing with when trying to get the warranty. They agreed he never should have knocked it back and he had a history of being rude like that. So I think if I got anyone else but him I would have been fine
@@Campingdownunder that’s good to hear
Thanks for the review. Why are there so many dead trees - they are huge! Where are you? Good to hear Kings saw the light.
This is at Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia. These trees have been dead for as long as I can remember. The salinity killed them I believe
Since I started researching RTT's I found your channel and your reviews and info are invaluable. In your opinion is it better to go with an RTT that can house 2 adults and two kids or would it be better to go a RTT for 2 kids and install an annex for the adults. Cost is not the issue, i'm focused more on quality, durability and comfort. Cheers
Depending on your vehicle if you can fit a wider rooftop tent on it. But then you are also constantly carrying more weight. Where as the annex weighs hardly anything & sets up in minutes. Although that does require extra bedding & another blow up mattress. So it's really a personal choice and what you can fit on your car
Hey Paul, you could have not picked a better location for your review. Thanks for the review. I don't have a 23zero tent but I have their 270 awning and it is fantastic.👍
Yeah I absolutely love coming here for astro shots. Have to still wait a few months for the milky way core to be back in our sky but these tree's are absolutely beautiful in photo's 👌 one day I wouldn't mind running the entire 23zero setup. Great quality gear 💪
Yeah I was wondering where this beautiful location is. I will check the rest of the comments in case it’s already been answered.
Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia 👍
Good review ! Were you taking a dump behind that old tree when talking ? Lol
Haha I had actually planned on sitting on it. But when I walked up to it it was absolutely covered in ants lol
Have enjoyed watching your reviews on the roof top tents! Would love to know where you are when shooting this one, keen to check the location out. 😁
Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia 👍
Legend! Thank you 🙏🏻
Hi buddy brilliant video.... do you know if I can get one in the UK..... amazing roof tent want to tour the UK (where I live) and France ...
Keep up the honest videos buddy 👍 👏
Thanks mate I appreciate it 👍 I'm not sure sorry. I'd suggest sending them a message on instagram or email them through the website
Hi Paul. Good to hear you are mostly happy with this RTT. Do you think you will ever buy the annex that fits underneath.? I know you have the one for the Kings RTT, and not very happy with it because it leaked when it rained, especially when it was gathered at the bottom. Do you think that's a problem with all RTT annex's, or just the Kings one??
Unfortunately my kids are getting older now and don't want to come camping very often now so I have no need for the bottom annex. Depending on the material they use I would assume it would have the same issue if your vehicle isn't the height it requires to pull the sides tight & allow water to pool on the edges
Useful review, thanks. Props to 4WD Supercentre. A disatisfied customer is an opportunity to demonstrate good customer service and win loyalty by stepping up, acknowledging mistakes and making amends. They've done that on this occasion. Cudos to them.
Definitely 👍 they couldn't have handled the situation any better after being treated so badly to start with. I'm very impressed 😀
The new rtt is just under 100kg, looks good though and 100mm innerspring mattress sounds comfortable
Yeah innerspring mattress would be amazing 😍
Love your vids mate. Straight to the point no bull. Do 23 zero make an awning for that model. I’m assuming it’s the Dakota?
Cheers mate 👍 yeah they make a 270 degree awning
@@Campingdownunder sorry mate. I’m a dill. I meant annexe. Do they make one, and if so have you got one?
Yeah mate they do make an annex for the rooftop tent & it looks great 👍 but unfortunately I don't have one. My kids are getting older now & don't come out camping very often so we have no need for one anymore
Hey Paul,
Nice clip, Is it right that they are closing the free camp sites around the lake.
I believe so unfortunately. They've already started staking out along the water front. Something that's been free for years in now ruined by idiots not cleaning up after themselves 😔
Great review... so informative it has me reconsidering going with the Darche 🤦♂️🤣 can I ask what location you're camping at in this video cause it looks like a mint spot
Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia 👍
@Camping downunder looks great for photography too 👍
I've shot lots of sunset & astro photography shots from here on my instagram profile 👍
@@Campingdownunder awesome I love doing both types of photography... some great foregrounds with them old trees 👌
Good vid Paul do u have to season kings of any if the roof top tent
You can but I haven't worried about it. The tropical layer on top is like a tent and actually allows the rain to run off of it rather than dripping through
Hi Paul Can I ask how much bedding can you leave inside the tent without having to physically cause too much stress on the pack up procedure. where it folds comfortably. Thanks
We just leave the 23zero sleeping bag inside and that's it. You may be able to fit some pillows but we don't push it. I wouldn't try much more than that
Hey we've been looking at RTT for a bit now and you had us sold on the 23 zero until we went into the camping store today.
We were comparing it with the Darche and the salesman told us that the LST layer tends to peal off if it gets wet when packed up wet or damp. Considering we will be on the move early in the morning to get to the next campsite regularly we're worried about the condensation not drying out properly. Have you had any issues with this. Or can you ease our concerns. Cheers Mark.
I've never had any issues with the lst yet. Mines showing no signs of peeling. Although I tend to wait a few hours before packing up if it's rained or if we have condensation we just run over the inside of the rooftop tent with a towel so it doesn't wet our bedding once folded up. It only takes a minute to dry it with a towel
G,Day Old Mate, just a question where the bloody hell were ya when u did this review? looks fantastic. Also keep up the g8 work.
Hey mate I was at Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia. Beautiful part of the country to explore 👍
I really want to buy this roof top tent for my family however I would need a annex similar to the Adventure Kings 6 person annex and 23zero don't have one the same size... any idea if the adventure kings one fits the 23zero RTT?
I'm not sure if it fits sorry. But with the smaller adventure kings annex I used to be able to fit my 3 kids under it. We never needed the bigger annex
How was the tent in the rain? My last RTT(unbranded) if anything was touching the canvas it would suck in the water. Looking to upgrade, want to get the 1600. Thanks for your reviews.
We've been out in the rain several times and never had any water come in. The only water we've ever had inside is condensation which is normal
Where was this video made. Great to hear about Kings.
At Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia. One of my favourite spots to camp 👌
@@Campingdownunder thank you
When will they make the clip on insulation for these?
good after review pal. I have a Pod trailer but never wanted to pull the trigger for a RTT, I have spent years watching videos and reviews of RTT and at the end of the day everything is related to the cost. if I want to buy a RTT today, I could probably buy the 23zero 1800 (just because of the LST) with the Annex (for privacy purposes, mosquitos and flies). The wife is desperate for a RTT because she likes to go out from Friday arvo and come back on Sundays, weekend warrior, and she hates seeing me installing the tent, tarp in the night. Anyways, I will subscribe to your channel. Also, which pegs are those one? where did you buy it from? Cheers
They are ezyanchors I have made a separate video review on them with a link in the description of that video if you'd like to check them out for yourself 👍
@@Campingdownunder thank you
Im really impressed with my Dakota 1600 the LST is awesome 👌. The matress could be better though.
Unfortunately they can't make the mattress any thicker otherwise you'd struggle to fold it up. They still allow you to fit a little bit of bedding inside with the standard mattress. This is why I'm in love with my new camp king industries rooftop tent. I can fit a 100mm mattress as well as all my bedding including pillows 😍
@@Campingdownunder I'm not wanting a thicker one though, I think if they made it more dense it would be perfect!
Im 6 foot 4 and 115kg and sleep on my side and I feel the floor.
If they made it more dense I wouldnt feel the floor so thicker isn't the issue in my opinion.
I'd love a bushcompany hard-shell rtt but for the price that will never happen.
I could nearly build a small offroad hybrid camper for that price.
Even with my 100mm mattress I still don't feel it's thick enough. I always feel like I'm sleeping directly on the floor aswell lol. Maybe if they went more firm it wouldn't fold as easy. You can put a self inflating mattress underneath your mattress
Dry lube brus, use it on both the ladder and the extendable poles.....!
I used silicone spray when I had it & it worked great 👍
Hi Paol I like you love this tent. I am thinking of buying one. However I could stretch my budget and buy the Kings grand tourer deluxe clam shell tent. I know as you mentioned 23 zero is bringing out one this month but $4000 is too much for me. Would you stay with the 23 zero Dakota 1400 or take the grand tourer.???
Me personally even though the adventure kings would be easier to setup I've heard several people say they've had issues with them so I'd stick with quality & something I know I'm not going to have issues with rather than buying something that's easier to setup but may fail on me. But it's completely up to you mate. You still get a warranty with the adventure kings rooftop tent so I'm sure they help you out if anything did go wrong 👍
@@Campingdownunder great response
Would you still recommend the 23 zero 1400 dakoda rooftop tent. I have a chance to buy one 2nd hand thats 4 months old. I just hope I can mount it so it opens to the back of the vehicle and not side mounted ? Great Video tks
I don't run the 23zero rooftop tent anymore. I now run the camp king industries rooftop tent. But I still loved the 23zero. As far as a soft top rooftop tent it was great. If you are mounting directly onto a canopy like I did without roof racks then you can face it backwards but on roof racks it's designed to be opened sideways
My RTT 1800 was worn LST from wear due to transportation, so from day 1 I had a few light holes...
Did you contact them? They are usually really good at resolving people's issues. I've heard a lot of positive feedback from people regarding warranty claims
@@Campingdownunder not yet, but was going to ask them if such a thing exists and that a spray can of the LST. I know Duplicolour make a black spray for fabrics, so I was going to try that if nothing comes of my contact with 23Zero. Stay tuned!
G'day mate... could you do review of the Kickass solar blankets ?
Kickass don't actually do the solar blanket but I have done a video on their 300w solar panel 👍
@@Campingdownunder ok cheers
What’s it like in the wind it’s always windy monsoon up in Townsville?
It can definitely handle strong winds. Just a lot of flapping noise but that can't be helped with a soft top rooftop tent
@@Campingdownunder that’s good to know cheers
Hi thanks again where was this video taken ?
Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia
Hey Paul looking at roof top tent but only can afford king's do you think if I drop your name I get discount or get kick out of there shop
🤣🤣🤣 unfortunately mentioning my name won't get you any discount. I'm sure they'll make more of an effort now to keep on top of any warranty claims that come through so you should be fine with the kings if that's all your budget allows. The 23zero is $500 more. Have you looked through all my rooftop tent videos on here?
Hey mate
How'd you mount the 23zero Onto your canopy
I've got a steel canopy so I drilled it directly through the roof and braced it around the supports. I also siliconed around every hole to stop water from getting in
@@Campingdownunder awsome I reckon I'll do the same
Do you get a lot of flapping and banging noises with the wind?
Unfortunately with this style rooftop tent they all do it no matter which brand you choose
how the hell did you rear mount it when the rails go in opposite direction?
for side mount only just got one had to cut the rails to suit rear mount and now the straps are in the way of mounting the rails flush massive design floor 😳
waiting on feedback from 23zero not happy nowhere does it specific this on the website
Did you check out my installation video? I didn't mount it on roof racks I bolted it directly to the roof of the canopy so the direction of the rails didn't matter
@@Campingdownunder oh ok gotcha 👌
@@jimo6686 Hey mate how did you get on rear mounting the 23zero to fold out the back tks
Will you sell this roof top camper to do your upgrade 😉
I've already upgraded sorry lol. I'm running the camp king industries rooftop tent now. Huge upgrade. A whole new level of comfort 😍👌
September 2022 now. Would you still recommend?
If a hardshell rooftop tent is either out of your budget or not practical for your car then I'd still highly recommend the 23zero rooftop tent 👍
@@Campingdownunder I think out of the budget at this stage for me yeah. I like the look of the panther but 4k is a bit rich. Thanks mate appreciate the response
Have you seen Mick Taylor around there? He's a shifty-eyed bloke.
drinking game - take a drink every time he says 'roof top tent'. if you sober at the end of the video, did you have the sound on? :)
Should I have said this item pictured? It's a rooftop tent so I'm going to call it a bloody rooftop tent. Do you have a constructive comment? Never get tired of keyboard warriors 🤣
If your a bloke around 100kg, does anyone get worried about breaking these getting in and out of them? silly question but gotta ask it
I'm not light myself lol. But it easily holds the weight with no issues at all 👍
@@Campingdownunder well im sold haha
Where are u camped in this video mate?
Lake bonney in the riverland south Australia 👍
Could you message me the name or contact details of the lady at adventure kings? I am getting f'ed around like I can't believe
Sorry to hear that mate. Feel free to email her at jlampasona@4wdsupacentre.com.au
Sadly probably the only reason you got a refund from the supercentre is because of your youtube influence, so many other people are stuffed around and made to wait months for refunds, they are a joke of a business and if the do get their act together they are already tainted by their previous bad reputation and drop in quality of many of their products.
Yes I understand that's probably the case. But when someone high up from 4wdsupacentre seen the way I was treated she was horrified by how I was treated. I had to wait 2 years & if I didn't make the previous video explaining the issues I most likely never would have got the result I was after. I've kept in contact with this employee since then and have found there are people there who do try to do the right thing but unfortunately there are a few people that don't care about customer satisfaction
I've only just found your channel and are a fan of the 23zero products. I look forward to future content, happy travels
Thanks mate 👍 I hope you enjoy the content 🍻
😂😂😂 they only gave you a full refund because you have a platform to slander them
pretty piss poor customer service
have you notice the tent putting much drag on your car ?
Yeah rooftop tent's create a lot of drag. Now that I have it off while I'm painting the car I've noticed a huge difference. Downside to running one
@@Campingdownunder yeah fair i’m on the fence about ordering one
i’m doing a 3000km trip soon for about 10 days not sure if i should go the RTT or just stick with chucking a tent on the ground 😣
If your only doing it for the 10 day trip then definitely stick with a tent or swag
And made in China!
When someone makes a rooftop tent with something similar to LST in this price range then people may buy it. One thing I've noticed since posting videos on CZcams. Everyone complains if I do a review on something not made in Australia "not supporting local jobs" then when I do a review on an Australian made product people complain ooh it's too expensive. People want Australian made products at imported priced. No matter what product I review someone always has to complain about this issue. Can't win either way
@@Campingdownunder manufacturers are acutely attuned to that, if people were willing to support Aussie jobs, we’d have more Australian products on the market.
I'm actually hoping to work with an Australian company in the near future that make rooftop tent's as well well as other great quality products. Camp King industries