BBC - Priest School - Pontifical Scots College, Rome
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- The Scots College was founded by Pope Clement VIII as a means for young Scottish Catholic men to obtain an education, as post reformation Catholics were excluded from higher level education at that time. BBC Scotland's Priest School looks at the origins of this ancient Scottish institution and its role as it exists today.
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I'm Irish and I've been to the Pontifical Irish College although not as a seminarian and I know someone who became a Priest so MUCH RESPECT to these guys
Immense respect for seminarians from the West..... With all the moral challenges they face on a minute by minute basis...
@Pa Gall yes i am... Eastern
Lots and lots of moral challenges, we would appreciate your prayers
Sure👍
Scott’s College is just a residence and students there study at the Gregorian Institute in Vatican City My best friend stayed there because the American College was ful
May GOD almighty give them the strength and deep faith that they will need.
It is always a great blessing to see a new priest ordained. May we have many more who will respond to His call.
Absolutely brilliant. I loved every moment of it. I’ll certainly pray for the seminarians of Scots College in Rome every day. God bless you all. Mary our beloved Mother and mother of all priests, pray for them. Scotland needs good, holy priests today more than ever before!
Fascinating . They all seem very happy with their choice of vocation . Wish them all the best in their future .
Blessings and prayers for all the seminarians and Reverend clergy.
God bless these holy men, they will bring abundant blessings to their communities. May God strengthen their spirit and harden their resolve.
Just don’t tell the kids that.
@@GazaLondon is that comment from experience?
@@amdg2023 sadly yes
Thank you for a peak inside Scotland's oldest international school of theology.
It's interesting to consider that most parents eagerly fork over enormous sums of money to send their children to college and experience four years of debauchery, while they discourage their children from investigating their faith at the seminary....
Well...I think that is your own prejudice speaking there...just because one is secular and studying a secular subject at university does not make 'debauchery' a must...and if all the reporting within Vatican city by the likes of Le Monde is to be believed...there is certainly enough 'debauchery' going on behind those walls amongst senior clergy that would make even a Borgia blush...so I am afraid that just believing in Jesus and progressing up a hierarchy, even if it is faith based, does not make anyone any the less exposed to corruption and loose morals...sometimes seemingly quite the opposite when you are senior clergy and used to 'obedience' without question.
And to add on to what @BelatedCommiseration says, have you ever considered the fact that most parents want a normal life for their children as nature intended not this enforced celibacy which is totally unnatural! And has unfortunately given rise to sexual abuse by priests…
@@norahappolus8994 as though married Protestant Pastors don't commit the same time. Some of them have a whole harem.
@@norahappolus8994so St Paul lived a “totally unnatural” life by remaining a celibate? He actually encouraged people to live like that. What about all the other saints who lived celibate lives? Also unnatural?
@@BelatedCommiserationAs someone who attended a secular university to study a completely secular subject… that’s a damn lie and you know it.
I pray for the Catholic Church in Scotland. May the Lord Jesus bless her with abundant graces and an ever increasing number of faithful.
The Catholic Church in Scotland has a lot to answer for. I was brought up in orphanages there. Our lives were a living hell. It was well known what was going and Mario Conti was instrumental in trying to protect the nuns and deny us a voice. Same with Blair’s College. We used to be bussed there for ‘picnics’. I’ll leave the rest to your imagination..
@@davinathorne5215 please
@@davinathorne5215they are heretics and pleasers of satan. And Christs church should answer for letting them in to it.
Thank you for uploading this it's off bbc iplayer 🙏🏼
Lets all pray for our priests for they are in an epic battle for Souls
Was a long time ago yet every time I hear the liturgy of the word. Readings, Gospel, and especially Homily. Listening to the word and for a long while as a reader back in the day. The word took me away!! Make sense? If there is anything I could hope for , for our young seminarians is please understand that you are blessed and there are so many of us ready to help you in diocese. Work hard and guys.
My respect to these young men. I imagine it's a challenging life, but also a very rewarding one.
This documentary much appreciated!!!
respect to the Bbc for producing a documentary like this
Wonderful documentary!!
Interestingly, I met the priest who, at the football segment, said "You're losing the football, but you're winning the drama competition". But I didn't know he was in this until it re-aired recently.
God bless our priests🙏
we should pry more for them may our Lord protect and keep them from an evil eye God bless you all👍✝️🙏
Beautiful ThankYou
Beautiful doc
I will never forget taking Mother Pascalina Lehnert to see The Pirates of Penzance performed by (my classmates at the Gregoriana) the all male cast of the Scots College (1976?). Fantastic. Unique. Hilarious. An integral part of Christmas in Rome.
🌹🌈⛲🛩️🍞🌏🇻🇦 What a tidbit! So Mother Pasqualina really was 0owerful personality, being Eugenio Pacelli's long time housekeeper.🀄🧢🐑🦋🌉🎻
Friend of mine studied in Rome and resided at Scots college and because he was an American was treated badly by the Scots and nearly froze because the Scot were use to no heat. Bitter experience for him
Never trusted the BBC but I will watch
May they be blessed to follow the steps of St Francis of Assisi.....
Prayer and respect from Keralam.
This was awesome. Christianity in the western world is viewed as bother by European, yet is the greatest civilian we can now see and relate too. As Christianity grows in Africa, the same cant be said in the western world. So kudos to this young men, kudos to Hungary, Poland and now Italy.
May God bless you all! 🙏
Very interesting and well done. Frank in Colorado
Good video guys.
God bless you all.
Do you have any contact with the English College in Rome?
Blessings and prayers of Thanks for men who hear the calling of Our Lord 🙏🏼
You never know,these Seminarians
could become a Bishop in a
Scottish Diocese,or even one
better as an Archbishop in
Scotland(Edinburgh/Glasgow).
Both these Archdioceses,have
had Cardinals created in the
past 50 Years.I wonder which
Archdiocese will have the
next Cardinal.
God bless them.
"see there's a word here in the Hebrew not in the Greek"
Ah yep. This protestant seminarian can relate!
Many are called, but few are chosen.
Where would we be without the Church.
I'm curious as why there are women/nuns/nuns in lay clothes sitting amongst the theology classes in seminary or seminary classes or the school shown in this documentary? I assumed it was just classes restricted to potential priests. Just a question, nothing more. Thank you
Hello! Pontifical universities are open to all who wish to attain a degree in Philosophy, Theology etc. These degrees can be used for many different things besides becoming a priest. Hope this helps! God bless!
Iconic ?! This is iconic school priest...
Not Roman Catholic. Don't know if I agree with celibate clergy. But this was beautiful.
It’s not called priest school it’s a seminary college and it takes longer than one year to become an ordained priest
It's the title of this BBC's documentary programme. If you ask me the reason, I don't know. For further information, please look at this article www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2Q6nVn8FPptTPHtgkpjLwCc/inspiration-celebration-and-ordination-a-year-at-priest-school
@@benn02 I think many non Catholics in the UK don't know what a #seminary is, so it's just slightly less complicated. Or it could be the Beeb's secular bias.
They said that they go to school there for 7 years but they followed seminarians over the course of a year so those who were ordained on here must have been just starting their 7th year.
i've been praying for all priests and nuns and the faithful for they play an important rolet in leading the people to God.
Paul XI. I'm old enough to remember him. I recall him dying, the summer of '78. He would have taken on the reforms, Vatican II. John XXIII would have been the 'reforming' guy.
Another Scots link to Rome and St Peter's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Royal_Stuarts
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To all these young seminarists and young priests I say only one thing: examine yourself, examine your calling. For "if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness." (Rom 8,9-10)
St. John Vianney is the patron saint of all priests.
Brethren, what's the name of the hymn sung at 13:00 and 16:15 of this video🙏🙏🙏...
Faith of Our Fathers. A wee bit of a dig and a bit of a Protest Song en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_of_Our_Fathers_(hymn)
Thank you, I'm much obliged 🙏🙏🙏
The algorithm has thrown this up for me on the Eve of St Andrew's Day! Enough to make one superstitious?
John Knox be turning in his grave.
Must be a Hun.Knox reformation was wrong
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I can understand women preferring to be in a nunnery or men deciding to live alone, but not Men joining a commune ...
Watching a wrestling match while in class. Something tells me he may have not made it through all 7 years. Probably not a good idea to do that in front of cameras.
Jeremiah 3:46-52
1 Kings 16:4
2 Chronicles 9:17-19
I visited a madrasa in Dewsbury with 390 trainee imams ... loving devotees all looking forward to their hemispheres.
shouldnt young priest kiss the pope fisherman ring? or new protocol eliminate that ancient practice?
20:05 😄😀
7 years is impressive. Getting up at 5 30 is called going to work. Credit to those who pass. Alcohol seems to be part of the process?
This documentary reminds me of what some of the characters in my novel A COUNTERFEIT PRIEST go through in order to be a priest. Art imitating life. Fascinating.
Lol. Blatant ad there
Counterfeit indeed. It is simply shocking to see how young priests are produced by the Catholic Church. No wonder the church is in such a mess. "Who does not have the mind of Christ, does not belong to Christ." Romans 8,9
Aye, sounds about right. Hand Big Frank a bottle of whiskey. 😂 scots will hae
Comment section is very reassuring lol.
... HOW MANY 'WRONG-'UN'S GET THROUGH .. THE PERCENTAGE.MMmm.???🤔🏴
Amused by the Celtic Strip. Not sure about any Hibs supporters though. Talk about stereotypes.
“Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO REMEMBER HOW BARBARICALLY THEY BEHAVED WHEN THEY WERE STRONG AND WERE MAKING AN OFFER THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT REFUSE!
― Christopher Hitchens: الله ليس عظيما
God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
Quoting Christopher Hitchens in 2024. Cringe.
From wordly, modern, liberal and protestant perspective the will be good pastors. But from traditional catholic perspective ( all saints and martyrs perspective) they are trained to be wordlings. There is only one person among this seminarians who seems to have tue catholic sesne of faith and he will have to quit this seminary to save his faith finally. Sad and tragic. They are drinking alcohol with their superiors like this is something normal and have parties that look like secular parties....On what moral grounds they will be later preaching about virtues of sobreity, chastity and mortification of senses when they are trained to do the opposite? This is rethorical question because it is obvious that Vatican and Francis expect them to be in no moral opposition to the world whatsoever, as he is.
Drinking wine in mediterranean countries is a normal habit. Despite this habit, alcoholism in these countries is not a serious problem.
I think the first hour, of the first day, in the first class someone comes out and writes on a blackboard in huge capital letters "DO NOT ABUSE CHILDREN!!!" The instructor says " You can have moral failures of all types on this journey, the one thing you cannot do, that will cause us to not only expel you, but call law enforcement on you is the abuse of children. There's a lot that we can tolerate on your journey to becoming a priest, the abuse of children is not one of them. Go back to your rooms for the rest of the day and meditate on this, and if you can make that commit that you will never ever do this then classes will start tomorrow"
Speculative Philosophy.
I can't understand all this is even legal
What of this should'nt be legal in your opinion?
No disrespect intended but at least 4 of these lads are so obviously gay I would bet my house on it. I hope they find happiness.
Young men living together isn't normal.
yeah, cause for you everything is sexual. What about Jesus and all his disciples which were all men? Dum assss
@@theosteven3362 Peter, whom Catholics claim to be the first pope, was married. There were no instances of homosexuals or pedos among the disciples which can't be said of Roman Catholic priests over the years to this very day.
@@johnbrowne3950 LMAO. Paul was not married? JESUS WAS NOT MARRIED????? Why ALL OF SUDDEN THE STANDARD MUST BE PUT ON PETER? Why not on Jesus Himself, that LITERALLY SAID "There are people who dont marry for the kingdom of God"? Why John??
And here is another dum logic u have john, "There were no instances of homosexuals or pedos among the disciples which can't be said of Roman Catholic priests over the years to this very day"
1. John, the percentage of fckn pedo priest doesnt even make up 1% of whole PRIESTS!
2. U know what John, go look up for yourself the case of Paul Schäfer Schneider, or any other PROTESTANTS PEDOS. Woah John, your protestantism cant be true cause you have got some too!! HAHAHAHA
@@theosteven3362 "I think that if you had suddenly all the gay priests in the U.S. to come out, I think the church would be forced to look at the question of homosexuality in a different light." - Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest
"A total of perhaps 80% of the priests in The Vatican are homosexual." - French journalist Frederic Martel
According to The Los Angeles Times about 15 of priests are gay.
Colombian Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo defended the church's position on homosexuality while hiring male prostitutes.
PS: The Roman Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars because of child abuse charges.
@@johnbrowne3950 and none of that affects any church teaching whatsoever. The biggest scandal in christianity is not priest being pedo or gay, but Judas betraying Jesus, and Peter denying jesus! But i dont see u denying Jesus or christianity while 2 apostles were guilty af!?!! Argument after argument falls into dum logic and hypocrisy... sad
They certainly seem to like their drink. A dangerous habit in their positions, wouldn’t trust these young men because of it.
You can see the difference in the seminarians. The gay guy is the most extravagant in his room whereas the pious guy lives the simplest.
only to discover at the very end all that you were taught was 99% tradition and 1% biblical.
That's exactly what went through my mind. They are brainwashed in the tradition of the church to be conformist, will-less and hypocritical servants of the church and not God, and without any particular concern for the Truth itself. Absolutely shocking.
Glad The Church had the Apostles, who continued the Tradition Christ established, i.e. the Mass, Bishops, Priests, absolution, baptism, ordination, marriage, chrismation, until that Bible got collected and defined by Holy Tradition.
@@GeorgeSmileyOBE tradition that Christ forgot to report..maybe or the bible writers forgot to include. The church, the bible writers or the christ which one is most likely to forget to write down all those traditions in the bible.
@@aquickstory2196 HE did not need to report tradition, He incarnated it and demonstrated it by His actions. ‘Reports’ from Heaven are delivered by angels, God Himself moves. Ordination? He placed his hands on them and sent them out. His apostles then had the power to raise the dead. Baptism? He did it himself, and commanded all to baptize in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Forgiveness of sins (absolution), He breathed on them and said sins you retain are retained, sins you forgive are forgiven. The Mass? He instituted it Himself, bread and wine, that He…infallible God…said THIS IS MY BODY. Apostolic succession? The apostles did it themselves, replacing Judas Iscariot, and following the same laying on of hand OLJC did to them. YEP that Holy Tradition is all right there IN THE BIBLE. Ex Ecclesia, nullis salis. You need to join the Catholic Church now.
@@GeorgeSmileyOBE was Jesus christ a catholic or is he held hostage by catholicism. Is Jesus following catholicism or is catholicism following jesus chris?
This seminary most likely doesn't like conservative RC seminarians that don't accept Panchamma idol worship nor the Unitarian Universalist position on salvation. RC seminaries have to teach the new bizarre positions on faith and morals.
Such nonsense
Really caught up in that panchamama incident. An obsession for Trad Caths... 🙄
such utter rubbish
hogwash...
And lord show them pipe Paul vi audience hall and please lord let them see the abomination that it is in Jesus name above all names I ask
What a horrid waste of a young life! The idea of celibacy is so against the Bible in every way. Suffice it to say, I watched this and was appalled that these young men had been so indoctrinated from a young age to do this and deny their true destiny. As a Christian, I find it truly sad to see the bible being used out of context. Mind you, I do like the playing of Zadok the Priest playing in the background, compsed for the Coronations of the head of the Anglican Church playing in the background
Jesus was celibate. His followers became celibate. Celibacy is as old as Christianity itself. The ancient desert fathers were celibate. I don't understand how you can say that it is against the Bible. Then again, Catholics rely on Tradition as well, not only on scripture.
@@antonioramos7139 How do you know Jesus was celibate? Celibacy is not what the Bible states, it is very clear that we are here to continue and celibacy is an act of betrayla to God. Catholics rely on evil prctaices, have done throughout history. Look at present day, the US catholic church will anull a marriage for a lump some of dollars, Irealns Ctaholic priests and paedophilia and yet they are protected by Rome, WW2, Catholic Church was complicit in the rounding up of Jews, at the end, it was the same church that organised escape lines for nazi war criminals. Christianity, is not catholic
@@jimwalsh8520 We have obviously studied from different sources, so, for now, any agreement between us is impossible. Believe and act according to your conscience, and I will do the same. Peace.
@@antonioramos7139 I used the Holy Bible ladddie, not he Catholic rendered edition
@@jimwalsh8520 Who do you think compiled the Bible?
The See has been formally vacant since Roncalli and the ‘Second Vatican Council’.
All Catholics are nuts, but some nuts are nuttier than other nuts
then Jesus was wrong. Turns out, gates of hades prevail over the Church, which means there is no truthin Christianity.
I do hope you are ordained in the ROMAN RITE or you are not a priest
So Byzantine Catholics have invalid orders?
Is that according to the Gospel Of Edith?
Well he'll be a priest of the NOVUS ORDO not the same thing
@@edithfox5946 Who will?
Don't be ridiculous, both the Ordinary and Extraordinary forms of priesthood ordination are valid. Instead of arguing like this, we should focus to pray for them.
Son:. Mom, dad! I want to go priest school.
Parents:. Oh boy! You just want to eat and xit all your life?
Have faith in the Bibles and the fellow fathers who practice and never fail practicing for the sake of man and the world