Chernobyl's Biggest Myths of the 21st Century: Invaders of the Red Forest

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2023
  • This script was written by MinSredMash, make sure to check out his Blogspot about the events leading up to the Chernobyl Disaster:
    chernobylcritical.blogspot.com/
    This channel spends a lot of time and energy combatting old myths and historical misconceptions about Chernobyl. But since Chernobyl is still making history, the past few years have seen new myths arise as well. If you were reading the news in February 2022, you might still believe two sensational stories about the Russian invasion. They were widely reported in the media, but then quietly debunked.
    Sources:
    www.iaea.org/sites/default/fi...
    www.sciencedirect.com/science...
    www.researchgate.net/publicat...
    habr.com/ru/articles/658733/
    habr.com/ru/companies/timeweb...
    • Radiation Survey of Li...
    www.wired.co.uk/article/chern...
    www.washingtonpost.com/world/...
    Since this video releases on Christmas Eve... merry Christmas!

Komentáře • 58

  • @dontbeasadsoulja
    @dontbeasadsoulja Před 5 měsíci +71

    Not only today's journalists do not understand the topic of radiation, they do not understand anything at all.

    • @AyRCee
      @AyRCee Před 5 měsíci +4

      They are yes men and women

  • @freestyler3061
    @freestyler3061 Před 5 měsíci +16

    good job using the fisherman who witnessed the explosion at the power plant for the video

  • @SamMaid9029
    @SamMaid9029 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Emoji jumpscare 2:12

  • @trevorbryant4360
    @trevorbryant4360 Před 5 měsíci +28

    How much of the Chernobyl Disaster is taught in Russian schools today? Would the soldiers have been told about the area they went into and what and what not to do? I'm thinking most of the soldiers were born in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

    • @MinSredMash
      @MinSredMash Před 5 měsíci +29

      For military-age Russians, the STALKER series is basically as big as Halo or Lord of the Rings is in the United States. So whatever they may or may not have learned in school, they know about Chernobyl from that game.

    • @tehgerbil
      @tehgerbil Před 5 měsíci +9

      ​@@MinSredMashThis, also it's a fairly culturally significant thing for certain areas of Russia where people still talk about the effects when it happened, so they'd hear from older people too. But Stalker is very very big, and rightfully so.

    • @SentinelSays
      @SentinelSays Před 5 měsíci +18

      In terms of school education, hardly at all. Despite the CCCP being defunked for 30+ years, critical reflection on the soviet unions errors and cruelty, is at best skirted over, at worst, it is actively ignored. In the last 3 decades, coverage of the Katyn massacre and the great purges are given very limited coverage at most before moving on. Conspiracies are sometimes spread and no one stops it, such as one of my sons teachers telling the class that Chernobyl was a result of Western sabotage, and Soviet nuclear energy was the safest and most effective in the world…this was a decade after the rise of the ‘independent’ eastern bloc. There is still active resistance to dissemination of historical failures, very much akin to the same Communist ideals that were espoused in the SU and still are in China.
      I spent most of my education in Russia, and neither me or my friends were never taught much of substance in relation to these things. I learned them myself in my own time.
      That said, even if you are not taught such things, the giant and numerous warning signs littering the excusion zone, written in both Ukrainian and (more commonly) in Russian, there's very little excuse for ignorance.

    • @Watis1337
      @Watis1337 Před měsícem

      Just as much as TMI is taught in American or Fukushima in Japanese probably. Maybe mentioned 1-2 times in physics classes when discussing nuclear physics and 1-2 times in history classes when discussing late soviet era.

  • @davidbaca7853
    @davidbaca7853 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Another great video, Thank You for your efforts.

  • @danodamano2581
    @danodamano2581 Před 5 měsíci +39

    There's money to be made in exaggerating facts. From research to so called journalists, theres no interest unless it's a crisis. For clicks or grant money, whatever it takes. By the time facts out the truth, theres another crisis to take its place.

    • @katenpp
      @katenpp Před 5 měsíci

      The whole corona scare existed because the news enjoyed making headlines. If it wasn`t for this absurd journalism, we wouldn`t have had most of the lockdown problems and concequences
      In this case it was just information war started by Ukraine, scaring Europe into helping fast, because hey ho Russian army may kill us all with radiation withing days. The video says as much in the end

    • @veretos7
      @veretos7 Před 5 měsíci

      for instance, another conflict between isreal and palestine?

    • @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
      @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg Před 2 dny

      'Grant money'? Do I smell a climate conspiracy theorist at work?

  • @rkan2
    @rkan2 Před 5 měsíci +2

    7:30 - what if they were burning the wood from the forest in a fire? I wouldn"t put it past them to get "lucky"...

  • @supabass4003
    @supabass4003 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Apparently the Russians had pre-1991 maps of the area, lol. You'd think before sending your troops through a radiological exclusion zone that you'd get up to date maps, 30+ years is alot of change, natural or manmade.

    • @javierpatag3609
      @javierpatag3609 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Why buy updated maps for your troops when you can pocket the money for it? Why do all that work when you don't even know you were going to be invading Ukraine to begin with?

    • @sobolanul96
      @sobolanul96 Před 5 měsíci +2

      With radiation, it usually means less danger, so the actual soviet maps would still be fairly accurate and easily updated by applying half life rules of the radioactive elements there. Though the area is still dangerous if you are an idiot.

  • @WordsOfLifeMinistry
    @WordsOfLifeMinistry Před 5 měsíci +4

    The reference to Kreosan @7:58 😄

    • @TheKitMurkit
      @TheKitMurkit Před 5 měsíci

      This blogger kreosan is pro russian, he supports terrorism and war

  • @isaacstyles92
    @isaacstyles92 Před 5 měsíci

    Well done. Thank you!

  • @istanbra5387
    @istanbra5387 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Where can I find the video showing a Su25 flying over pripyat?

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle Před měsícem +1

    Interesting to learn I was misinformed about this! I’m guessing that if the radiation monitors were intentionally spoofed by a Russian cyberattack, that may have been either a psychological op or a ruse to discourage Ukrainian counterattacks in or through the Chernobyl Zone.
    Meanwhile what is much more worrying and which the IAEA is constantly warning about to anyone who will listen, is that Russia continues to fight in and around the actively operating Zaporhizhia (spelling?) NPP in central Ukraine near the front lines of Russian-occupied area.

  • @chukkie0001
    @chukkie0001 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Mobic smoke's and drink's. More chance of dying from that.

  • @tahustvedt
    @tahustvedt Před 5 měsíci +1

    I never heard about the first one but the second was spread around.

  • @urbanplanner7200
    @urbanplanner7200 Před 5 měsíci

    What is the Zinc Network ?

  • @overtired-rv4ou
    @overtired-rv4ou Před 9 dny

    it must've been so scary invading northern ukraine, imagine being a russian soldier and invading the exlcusion zone and, all of the sudden seeing dead and red tress around you.

  • @michalsoukup1021
    @michalsoukup1021 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I am about a coin toss in the terms of thinking whether that's good or bad, on one hand I do not wish it on the individuals, especially rank and file, otoh illegal invasions should have consequences,

  • @AyRCee
    @AyRCee Před 5 měsíci

    I was wrong but right what a mad situation.

  • @RoboPutinPresidentinCE
    @RoboPutinPresidentinCE Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm not even gonna disagree but there's no way in hell that a merry band of soldiers march near a dangerous radioactive zone and not even one guy gets radiation poisoning...
    I mean cmon just by pure chance alone

  • @saintuk70
    @saintuk70 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dare not say "owt" incase of pedants ;)

  • @gingernutpreacher
    @gingernutpreacher Před 5 měsíci +1

    Didn't some light fire's and moss was burnt off and they inhaled caesium?

  • @metallusmelandril7380
    @metallusmelandril7380 Před 5 měsíci

    Acute lead poisoning 💀

  • @joshjones3408
    @joshjones3408 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The hole deal has Holes in it...from turbines that vibrate ....to building something that big an powerful an claiming they dent need safe confinement around the the thing....but it seems to me instead of confing the reactor the build basements under in stead of addicts above.....thank ... For the basements but I just don't want to thank those people can be that ignorant.... great video 👍👍👍📸📸

  • @bobsyouruncle1574
    @bobsyouruncle1574 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Journalists nothing, a significant portion of the population get their information from whichever randoms garner the most likes and attention from each other.

  • @RynaxAlien
    @RynaxAlien Před měsícem

    I wish Stalker mutants were real to take out vatniks

    • @first001
      @first001 Před 21 dnem

      Yeah as a desperate hohol, that’s all you can wish for lol

  • @gingernutpreacher
    @gingernutpreacher Před 5 měsíci +5

    Too much looted alcohol is not "just part of being in a war zone"

    • @xandergonzo4853
      @xandergonzo4853 Před 5 měsíci +7

      That's not what he said, "Exhaustion, confusion and nerves" ARE part of being in a warzone

    • @gingernutpreacher
      @gingernutpreacher Před 5 měsíci

      @@xandergonzo4853 he listed it as a possible reason

    • @pauln6803
      @pauln6803 Před 5 měsíci

      According to a former British territorial army recruit who (allegedly) spent time as a foreign agent in the Ukrainian army and got to see first hand some of the liberated areas, the Russians stole everything that wasn't nailed down (unless they could pry the nails out!) except for the alcohol that is commonly home distilled, which they actually paid for.
      It's very easy to get things very, very wrong if you haven't any experience or guidance distilling spirits. And you certainly don't piss off the man who makes the party juice as it's very easy for them to turn it from party juice into blind and poisoned juice.
      Of course, if it turns out to be unexpectedly strong or they simply drank too much, that's on them.

  • @roberterdei8627
    @roberterdei8627 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow, some real Anti-Russian bias here. Goes to show that even people who engage in uncovering fact from fiction will then start spewing out fiction in the same breath... Kind of sad I supported the channel with views...

    • @RaptorJesus
      @RaptorJesus Před 19 dny +3

      Perhaps if Russia stopped threatening its neighbours, there'd be less "bias". Remember, NATO is a voluntary and purely defensive organization. There are no clauses or mechanisms for offensive actions. If Russia were genuinely just interested in friendly relations with the states that border them, they wouldn't care if they joined NATO. Why worry about a defensive alliance if you have no interest in aggressive expansion?
      But hey, Russia, you keep doing your thing. You've been the single best ad campaign for NATO since the wall came down, and the biggest contributor to Raytheon's and Lockheed's profits in decades.

    • @elfanarion
      @elfanarion Před 3 dny

      Would be nice if you gave examples of that bias.