Let's be real here, if someone really wants to steal that trailer (not that I blame them looking at a Texas Pride dump trailer myself at the moment for the farm) lock won't stop them. The best you can hope is that the lock will slow them down enough to make the thief second guess their decision to take your trailer.
@@BackRoadBound anything to slow them down. Personally I like a length of chain locked on underneath with empty cans attached. When a trailer is going down the road with a chain dragging cans, people take notice.
After a lot of research and then having my buddies Texas Pride dump trailer stolen, I went a different route. I took the mounting bolts off and drilled the holes in the channel that would be level for my truck, then took the actual coupler to the machine shop and had them align bore the coupler holes. Then I added two 3/4" grade 5 pins and retainers from TSC. Now, when I RON or am done with the dump trailer for a while, I pull the pins, and remove the entire coupler. No socket for a would be thief to engage. I guess they could tie the safety chains and let it drag down the road. Next step is to put GPS trackers on the dump and the new gooseneck equipment trailer. Keep the great videos coming.
Just discovered ft knox locks im buying a diamond c tilt trailer very expensive trailer has same type of hitch set up now i can lock the complete hitch and feel that my trailer much safer plus i add gps as added protection 😊
Make the jack handle removable too so they would have to lift it onto the hitch and run with the foot down? Or put the tongue way up in the air and take the jack handle home....
Problem is one could cut the bolt heads off and the rest is history. But if the added another locking system on the other side then it would be a game changer for sure!
that would significantly increase the out of pocket, not to mention most thieves shy away from using power tools as the time/noise necessary is very unappealing to most thieves.
JD you show us some of the greatest products on the market, and thanks so much for your time and effort. But be honest, I’m no lock smith or thief, but I also think of how to get behind the lock of the possessions I have locked down. They are all easy to get into. Think of it this way, stay away from the lock!
I think you sorta miss the point regarding LockPickingLawyer. While he is really good at picking locks, he shows EXACTLY what the flaw is to everyone watching, which makes that goal attainable for anyone else. The goal in mind with hitch locks and pad locks on a trailer is to merely slow a thief down long enough for someone to notice they are attempting to steal your stuff.
Additionally after further inspection you couldn't even fit another coupler underneath the first one even if there are two bolt holes underneath the existing one
@@lancethomas4566 possibly. . . Though the majority of the base plates of adjustable couplers I am familiar with are taller than the hole spacing alone and would prevent one like what you described from being able to line up to the holes properly
What if the thief shows up with a battery powered grinder and grinds the heads of the bolts, installs 2 new bolts and the new hitch and calmly drives away? I don’t think your lock supplier thought this one out. Or as someone else pointed out a one ton wrecker hooks up and drives off.
what model of ft knox lock did you purchase the coupler on your trailer? i just ordered a trailer (bwise) and it appears to have the same coupler as your trailer (it has that eyelet looking thing on top). ft knox appears to have 3 or 4 different locks for a bumper pull trailer. appreciate your help.
Don Hanson that is well said. JD shows us some of the greatest products on the market. I can’t help but think how to get these devices off as I have the same thought as I put them on mine.
The downfall about this locking system is it leaves those two bottom holes exposed and someone theoretically could bolt a pintle tow eye to it and still steal the trailer. It appears there would be enough room at the bottom to even if they just used one bolt.
Some companies have exclusive contracts for different keyings, not to mention abloy has a few different levels of security, the sentry level being their top tier from my understanding
1st, it is a shame a person has to spend so much time and money to protect them selves from thieves 2nd, I don't know if you covered this in another video, but I see you have a lock on your coupler , is it possible just to pull the coupler off and keeping it, say in your truck, instead of having a lock for it? This would be my first time ever seeing that type of hitch so you can imagine how much experience I have in trailers.
Then you run into the problem which the channel lock addresses, which is to prevent someone who has their own coupler from coming up, putting theirs on, and driving off
@@Chadwickodom92 well I thought that was what the second lock was for to keep someone from removing the coupler and putting theirs on and driving away. Which goes back to my original question, if you take your coupler and just put that second one off that keeps people from adding or removing a couple wouldn't that cut down on one of the locks needed?
Okay, okay great I went to there website and see that they have one for my 5th wheel king pin I think that it will slow them down at least, one thing that is good is to have multiple locks or layer of safety but I do see that you have a couple of locks.
You asked for it, we deliver. Here is an attempt to defeat one of our own locks without using power tools. If you have power tools, all bets are off with any lock. czcams.com/video/syKZpdwczyU/video.html
Remember that a lock will just help slow down the thief. Someone who would want the trailer simply needs to purchase: www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCG413R2-Brushless-Grinder-Kickback/dp/B074V31TBJ/ While it will be loud and take a bit, to grind off the heads is really pretty quick, pull them out the lock side. I do actually like the kracken better in that regards, it would be much tougher to do that. But the core seems better on the Ft Knox lock. Unless that is you hear "I got a click out of four...." lol
Sadly my experhiences with FT Knox weren't the same. Sent them a pic of my trailer tongue and they advised what lock to buy. waited three weeks and when i asked where my order was i was snippily told they were waiting on puck locks to come in. Finally got the lock the day before my planned trip to leave my trailer remotely and it won't fit/close so i have had to delay my trip. We'll see how the return process goes.
We are so sorry for you wait and experience. Both for obvious reasons (delays related to Covid) and the fact that the RV market and other trailer markets exploded over the past 6 months, our family owned business was caught off guard in struggling to maintain stock. I am also sorry you felt we were snippy. We are still small enough to consider every customer as highly valued and we intend to keep that attitude as we grow. Unfortunately with the Curt style coupler (I'm assuming this was the case with you) there are some outlier dies out there they are stamped with a slightly taller bridge right behind the ball socket area and we are not able to identify those visually. I trust we were able to get your fit situation corrected. Milton Odom Ft. Knox Locks
I was just looking at their locks on the site you recommended. But I am not seeing a lock system to use when it is attached to the to vehicle. I just bought a Texas Pride Dump trailer this week and need to be able to lock it to my truck when I have to RON when out on a job or long trips. Any help is greatly appreciated. I really enjoy all of your very informative videos JD. Please keep them coming.
At Ft. Knox Locks we maintain that all locks are deterrents. If you bring power tools into the equation then all bets are off for any lock. We are believers in an "all of the above" approach to trailer security.
JD, First off I just bought that socket set. Thanks for the recommendation! Next, I have a question, with all the cordless tools available, what's to stop someone from taking a cordless grinder with a cutting wheel and cutting the bolt heads off on the other side then sliding the bolts out the lock side? I don't mean to be a party pooper here but if I needed to get that lock off I do believe I'd attack the weak link which appears to me to be the bolt heads. Am I missing something here? I think though that you were correct in that anyone who is a thief and really wants to break into a lock can do it. I believe that with locks you simply make your trailer more complicated than the one parked next to it and the thief will just simply move to the next trailer. Good review!!! Thanks, Pat
At Ft. Knox Locks we maintain that all locks are deterrents. If you bring power tools into the equation then all bets are off for any lock. We are believers in an "all of the above" approach to trailer security.
I feel like having the heads of the bolts exposed kinda defeats the purpose of the lock. Someone brings a cordless grinder zips the heads of the bolts off, pulls the lock mechanism out the other side, puts a new coupler on, and your trailer is gone. This product stops the lazy thief but isn’t going to stop all thief’s.
the first one loses the grading on the bolts by welding them making them susceptible to snapping during the towing process. . . I would personally lean away from the product that is just as liable to break off while towing on the highway as it is to be stolen, especially after studying the interior of their system. Chad Odom
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today we are going to pick the new trailer lock"
Big Truck Big RV: "Fucccccc..."
Lol
The GPS tracking device will tell BTBRV where his trailer is.
I came here looking for this comment.
HAHA.
What to do about the security chain they can hook the chain to the bumper and drag the trailer off
Let's be real here, if someone really wants to steal that trailer (not that I blame them looking at a Texas Pride dump trailer myself at the moment for the farm) lock won't stop them. The best you can hope is that the lock will slow them down enough to make the thief second guess their decision to take your trailer.
Trent Lewis and any tow truck could hook into it and tow it away as is. You can only do so much.
@@akbychoice Chain the wheels together?
@@BackRoadBound anything to slow them down. Personally I like a length of chain locked on underneath with empty cans attached. When a trailer is going down the road with a chain dragging cans, people take notice.
I had to chuckle, just as you were talking about the locks. I started to think to myself and you beat me me to it. The lock picking lawyer. Ha ha
After a lot of research and then having my buddies Texas Pride dump trailer stolen, I went a different route. I took the mounting bolts off and drilled the holes in the channel that would be level for my truck, then took the actual coupler to the machine shop and had them align bore the coupler holes. Then I added two 3/4" grade 5 pins and retainers from TSC. Now, when I RON or am done with the dump trailer for a while, I pull the pins, and remove the entire coupler. No socket for a would be thief to engage. I guess they could tie the safety chains and let it drag down the road. Next step is to put GPS trackers on the dump and the new gooseneck equipment trailer.
Keep the great videos coming.
What gps system did you go with bud ?
We love our ft knox lock. Works great with our reese goosebox.
I added washers to the top bolt so it couldn't back out at all. Thus preventing someone from using a hacksaw to cut the bolt head off.
"Today we're going to try the Ramset on this lock..."
Just discovered ft knox locks im buying a diamond c tilt trailer very expensive trailer has same type of hitch set up now i can lock the complete hitch and feel that my trailer much safer plus i add gps as added protection 😊
Love the lock picking lawyer reference
Make the jack handle removable too so they would have to lift it onto the hitch and run with the foot down? Or put the tongue way up in the air and take the jack handle home....
Gps is the best option $130 a year not bad
Problem is one could cut the bolt heads off and the rest is history. But if the added another locking system on the other side then it would be a game changer for sure!
that would significantly increase the out of pocket, not to mention most thieves shy away from using power tools as the time/noise necessary is very unappealing to most thieves.
@miltonodom8095 ever seen people cut off cats to vehicles? 😅
With that big hole in the front of the hitch lock, beside the puck lock. a good pry bar would likely make short work of that Fort Knox hitch lock.
"I'm going to be using the lockpick Bosnian Bill and I made"
Wow how come I never thought that... omg, thank you so much brother for this incredible security from Fort Knox Locks. I will definitely get it today.
JD you show us some of the greatest products on the market, and thanks so much for your time and effort. But be honest, I’m no lock smith or thief, but I also think of how to get behind the lock of the possessions I have locked down. They are all easy to get into. Think of it this way, stay away from the lock!
I think you sorta miss the point regarding LockPickingLawyer. While he is really good at picking locks, he shows EXACTLY what the flaw is to everyone watching, which makes that goal attainable for anyone else. The goal in mind with hitch locks and pad locks on a trailer is to merely slow a thief down long enough for someone to notice they are attempting to steal your stuff.
Ima reference you having an aluminum puck lock you can easily drill through.
pretty good setup but if the bolt can be backed out at all it can be cut with a blade
Someone who LPL teams up with is Bosnian Bill, he not only does lock picking, but physical attacks on various lock styles.
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The first lock prevents someone from bolting on a coupler above or below the coupler you have attached. The second one doesn't.
If the coupler is low enough it doesnt matter if you bolt it on above you still cant attach to it
Also the majority of C-channels aren't as long as the one he has
Additionally after further inspection you couldn't even fit another coupler underneath the first one even if there are two bolt holes underneath the existing one
Chadwick n.o you could possibly if you have one with a extended neck that went past the lock box
@@lancethomas4566 possibly. . . Though the majority of the base plates of adjustable couplers I am familiar with are taller than the hole spacing alone and would prevent one like what you described from being able to line up to the holes properly
nice trailer
What if the thief shows up with a battery powered grinder and grinds the heads of the bolts, installs 2 new bolts and the new hitch and calmly drives away? I don’t think your lock supplier thought this one out. Or as someone else pointed out a one ton wrecker hooks up and drives off.
most thieves shy away from using power tools as the time/noise necessary is very unappealing
Chad Odom
Why not Put the kracken lock on the other side
what model of ft knox lock did you purchase the coupler on your trailer? i just ordered a trailer (bwise) and it appears to have the same coupler as your trailer (it has that eyelet looking thing on top). ft knox appears to have 3 or 4 different locks for a bumper pull trailer. appreciate your help.
A wise man once told me a lock was designed to keep Honest men honest. Fort Knox Designed their locks to make more Honest Men.
Don Hanson that is well said. JD shows us some of the greatest products on the market. I can’t help but think how to get these devices off as I have the same thought as I put them on mine.
Never made it as a wise man
The downfall about this locking system is it leaves those two bottom holes exposed and someone theoretically could bolt a pintle tow eye to it and still steal the trailer. It appears there would be enough room at the bottom to even if they just used one bolt.
Need one on each side so bolt heads cant be cut off. Then your in business.
If the Kraken came with an Abloy, you likely could have have had that cylinder pinned to the same key as you already had.
Some companies have exclusive contracts for different keyings, not to mention abloy has a few different levels of security, the sentry level being their top tier from my understanding
1st, it is a shame a person has to spend so much time and money to protect them selves from thieves
2nd, I don't know if you covered this in another video, but I see you have a lock on your coupler , is it possible just to pull the coupler off and keeping it, say in your truck, instead of having a lock for it?
This would be my first time ever seeing that type of hitch so you can imagine how much experience I have in trailers.
Then you run into the problem which the channel lock addresses, which is to prevent someone who has their own coupler from coming up, putting theirs on, and driving off
@@Chadwickodom92 well I thought that was what the second lock was for to keep someone from removing the coupler and putting theirs on and driving away.
Which goes back to my original question, if you take your coupler and just put that second one off that keeps people from adding or removing a couple wouldn't that cut down on one of the locks needed?
Okay, okay great I went to there website and see that they have one for my 5th wheel king pin I think that it will slow them down at least, one thing that is good is to have multiple locks or layer of safety but I do see that you have a couple of locks.
Nice system!..
Would like to see try to break into these ft Knox locks.
You asked for it, we deliver. Here is an attempt to defeat one of our own locks without using power tools. If you have power tools, all bets are off with any lock. czcams.com/video/syKZpdwczyU/video.html
If you wanted to could you get one of those bolts with the pins in it and use two instead of one?
You could use two, but you only need to protect one for certain because they have to get both out to be able to switch couplers.
Remember that a lock will just help slow down the thief. Someone who would want the trailer simply needs to purchase: www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCG413R2-Brushless-Grinder-Kickback/dp/B074V31TBJ/ While it will be loud and take a bit, to grind off the heads is really pretty quick, pull them out the lock side. I do actually like the kracken better in that regards, it would be much tougher to do that. But the core seems better on the Ft Knox lock. Unless that is you hear "I got a click out of four...." lol
Any updates on that style lock?
Sadly my experhiences with FT Knox weren't the same. Sent them a pic of my trailer tongue and they advised what lock to buy. waited three weeks and when i asked where my order was i was snippily told they were waiting on puck locks to come in. Finally got the lock the day before my planned trip to leave my trailer remotely and it won't fit/close so i have had to delay my trip. We'll see how the return process goes.
We are so sorry for you wait and experience. Both for obvious reasons (delays related to Covid) and the fact that the RV market and other trailer markets exploded over the past 6 months, our family owned business was caught off guard in struggling to maintain stock. I am also sorry you felt we were snippy. We are still small enough to consider every customer as highly valued and we intend to keep that attitude as we grow. Unfortunately with the Curt style coupler (I'm assuming this was the case with you) there are some outlier dies out there they are stamped with a slightly taller bridge right behind the ball socket area and we are not able to identify those visually. I trust we were able to get your fit situation corrected.
Milton Odom
Ft. Knox Locks
I was just looking at their locks on the site you recommended. But I am not seeing a lock system to use when it is attached to the to vehicle. I just bought a Texas Pride Dump trailer this week and need to be able to lock it to my truck when I have to RON when out on a job or long trips. Any help is greatly appreciated. I really enjoy all of your very informative videos JD. Please keep them coming.
Tell me about the solar panel you have on top of your tool box?
Any Coupon code for Ft Knox?
What about cutting the heads of the bolt off?
At Ft. Knox Locks we maintain that all locks are deterrents. If you bring power tools into the equation then all bets are off for any lock. We are believers in an "all of the above" approach to trailer security.
@@ft.knoxlocks4790 can we put another lock on the opposite side to prevent that?
@@danlux4954 if you are wanting to spend the additional amount for it of course you could.
Chad Odom
@@miltonodom8095 Cheaper than buying a new trailer
JD,
First off I just bought that socket set. Thanks for the recommendation!
Next, I have a question, with all the cordless tools available, what's to stop someone from taking a cordless grinder with a cutting wheel and cutting the bolt heads off on the other side then sliding the bolts out the lock side? I don't mean to be a party pooper here but if I needed to get that lock off I do believe I'd attack the weak link which appears to me to be the bolt heads. Am I missing something here? I think though that you were correct in that anyone who is a thief and really wants to break into a lock can do it. I believe that with locks you simply make your trailer more complicated than the one parked next to it and the thief will just simply move to the next trailer.
Good review!!!
Thanks,
Pat
I said the same thing and suggested to FT Knox they offer an Abloy lock on both sides. This eliminates the exposed bolts, aka weak link.
most thieves shy away from using power tools as the time/noise necessary is very unappealing
I may have missed it but was curious about using it on my travel trailer any thoughts there
What about just using a Dewalt cordless grinder, a large drift pin, and a BFH on the bolt heads? (With proper eye protection of course)
At Ft. Knox Locks we maintain that all locks are deterrents. If you bring power tools into the equation then all bets are off for any lock. We are believers in an "all of the above" approach to trailer security.
can you make a video on the best way to lock a Side X Side on a trailer?
where you given these or did you buy them?
Steel or aluminum puck locks?
Do you believe that those height adjustable lock would be weather resistant? Or will the Abloy cylinder pretty robust?
It's pretty robust
Most metal rusts
You can cut off the bolt heads
I lost my trailer and a similar lock because the thief had a piece of rope and no love whatsoever for his truck's tailgate.
I feel like having the heads of the bolts exposed kinda defeats the purpose of the lock. Someone brings a cordless grinder zips the heads of the bolts off, pulls the lock mechanism out the other side, puts a new coupler on, and your trailer is gone. This product stops the lazy thief but isn’t going to stop all thief’s.
most thieves shy away from using power tools as the time/noise necessary is very unappealing
I hate the lock picking lawyers monotone delivery
Nice vid. $??
First one is way better. Its tight, simple and looks a lot cleaner.
Infact the second one is very poorly designed.
the first one loses the grading on the bolts by welding them making them susceptible to snapping during the towing process. . . I would personally lean away from the product that is just as liable to break off while towing on the highway as it is to be stolen, especially after studying the interior of their system.
Chad Odom
Not LPL approved
I can easily get that off
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