Dark History of the House of Black - Harry Potter Explained
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2023
- Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today, we’re going to be discussing the history and family tree of the Black family.
You might not know this, but Sirius Black was more than just a powerful wizard who escaped the dungeons of Azkaban.
By birthright, he was a member of one of the most powerful wizarding families in all of Britain. In fact, the Black family line can be traced back through the centuries, and was celebrated as one of the proudest pure-blood families in the world.
And by the time Sirius was born, he was one of the few male heirs that remained. Which meant his passing, in the Death Chamber on the ninth level of the ministry of magic, marked the end of the Black Family line.
But even that wasn’t really the end for them. Although the women of the family didn’t typically keep their last name after marriage, they married into dozens of other pure blood families throughout England. In some way, almost every Weasly, Potter, Lestrange, Lupin, and Malfoy could find a connection to the Blacks.
Today, we’re going to take a look at the very first recorded ancestor in Sirius’s line, and trace the history of the Black family, from Sirius’s own namesake, to the final male heirs.
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Hey HPTheory! Love your videos! I'd like to make a video suggestion (if you already did something on that topic I'd very like to know!): It's about Hogwarts Legacy. I struggle to create my character because I want to give him/her a lore friendly family name that fits to the time period around 1890-1891, with the player character being 15-16 years at that point. Playing a Dumbledore, Granger or Weasly doesn't make any sense for various reasons, neither does Black. Currently I think a "Burke" or "Prince"- character for Slytherin could fit somehow. Could you do a "possible player-ancestry"-video or something like that? This would be really cool!
Did you find out who Harry potter got the elder wald off milfoy yet
He took draco's wand from him. That basically means harry disarmed draco and won ownership of the elder wand.
@@brysontipton1893 thanks 👍
You're welcome
Regulus, Sirius, Tonks, Remus, and Andromeda are just a few who are truly noble in the house of Black
Don't forget Regulus' sacrifice.
Regulus left the chat
Oh yeah, forgot about him
@@raijyn2452and the whole reason Harry survived was due to the huge risk Narcissa took
I think everyone who got blasted from the family tree is noble honestly
In Hogwarts Legacy, if you follow the hedge mazes, there is mention of a fifteenth century Black witch, a half-blood because her mother married a muggle, but she simply saw herself as a victim of her mother and thought she was worthy of the name Black.
If the HBO show is a success, I hope we get spin-offs based on the noble/pure-blood houses. We know people will watch the hell out of something like that.
I'm going to give you a warning. If you watch that show then you're making a mistake. There werre things from the books the filmmakers left out of the movies for good reasons like: Peter Pettigrew's death, physical fights, and Ron and Ginny's personalities because they were too dark, violent, and even made the heroes look like they're the bullies. If you watch the show then you don't know what you're in for.
Hermione even held Rita skeeter captive in a jar, while Rita was in her beetle form
The House of Black.
@@brysontipton1893 great! Then we get a different angle on the same story. I personally really like the dark parts of the books, as they really give a sense of the stakes. Making the heroes more flawed is not exactly a bad thing.
they will never do it because they have to inject identity politics and virtue signaling into every facets of media.
When I look at these videos about Sirius I realize how sad and difficult his life was.
And he's not the only one. The rest of the disowned ones were disowned because their family couldn't understand selflessness. The squib marius was disowned for being a squib and the sad thing is his parents weren't grateful for having him. Iola, Cedrella, and Andromeda were disowned because they chose love.
Last night (prior to this video's release) my mum and I went though the papers of her family's geneology. It was very confusing. Lots of same names through generations... which even affects me personally. Lots of marriages to spouses that had the same name as others already in the family. There were earthshaking details we found in records that are not mentioned afterwards, and I also found unsupported gossip relayed to me by my mum. Real genealogies aren't created by one author for the convenience of their readers. Real genealogies are messy with lots of forgotten details and made up details. And lots of inconsistently spelled names. Having something written down wrong in the past is terribly powerful. If someone got a hold of one of my childhood birthday cards from my grandmother, they wouldn't know how to spell my name. Yep. My own grandmother.
If I remember correctly, the black family had a motto Toujours Pur”, French for 'Always Pure.
NOPE, I blast Delphini from the tapestry of The Most Ancient & Noble House of Black due to not being cannon. lol 😜
Same
Says who?
@@brysontipton1893everyone. No one wants the play to be cannon
Who???I don't know her.
Who??I don't know her.
this explains why harry was able to inherit Number 12 Grimmauld place
i love the tradition to name the children after stars😍
So Ron Weasley and Neville Longbottom are cousins to Sirius Black and Bellatrix Lastrange. Shocking!!
and wasn't Bellatrix one of the people that tortured Neville's parents
Neville is not related to them because none of his parents or grandparents were on the family tree. I also doubt if Ron is related to them because how can you tell if cedrella is Arthur's mother?
Harry is..
One thing that has always bemused me was that Sirius explained his relationship to the Malfoys, Tonks & the Weasleys but completely omitted Harry’s relationship to the Black family through Charlus Potter’s marriage to Dorea Black and their Son who were likely first and second cousins to Henry Potter Harry’s great grandfather and Fleamont potter his grandfather. They weren’t that far off the family tree as Dorea was the aunt to Walburga Sirius’s mother and his cousins the Black sisters. The ironic part was that Harry quickly saw and pointed out to the Malfoys relation to Sirius but missed to recognize his own family’s connection to the Blacks.
I don't think cedrella and Septimus are Arthur's parents because walburga and him would second cousins and walburga was boring in 1925 and Arthur was born in 1950 , making him a whole generation from her. Another thing is Ron said his whole family was in Gryffindor and cedrella was in slytherin, we know other member of Ron's family besides his parents and siblings, like his uncle billius, his great great aunt Muriel, his uncles Fabian and Gideon, his great aunt tessie, and his great uncle ignatius, who married into the family by marrying lucretia black.
50 points will be awarded to your House, sir! For this video is remarkably outstanding!
I’d love hear how regulus discovered that it was a horcrux
When Voldemort used creature to test his defenses and creature barely escaped and told regulus what had happened in the cave. That’s when and how he found out.
@@jellyc4164 it couldn’t have been Kreecher that told him it was a horcrux, how could a simple house elf know about such an obscure and mysterious dark magic that to my own knowledge of HP lore, that only two people ever made horcruxes. The inventor and Voldemort. It’s even stated in the books that extremely few would would choose such unknown existence after their physical death.
@@seanmcleroy8012 I said Kreacher told him what had happened in the cave and Regulus connected the dots from there. He and Kreacher then went back to the cave to destroy the locket. Regulus couldn’t overcome the Inferi and in a last ditch effort gave the locket to Kreacher and ordered him to find a way to destroy it at all costs. You have to read bud.
Love this channel and rewatching Harry Potter, for what the first time in about a year,
Any chance we could get a history on the Weasley family? Don’t know if there’s much info on them
Headmaster Black hating the kids and his job is a HUGE nod to Hogwarts Legacy
Sirius the third did not deserve to die. Movie-Bellatrix took it too far. I mean, I like HBC, but she made her way too craycray.
Also, I still do not and will not call Cursed Child canon.
@@brysontipton1893 1. Time travel NEVER works. 2. The play was not originally written by J. K, she gave it her blessing, doesnt mean I will.
Thank you for a great history lesson.
Awesome as always thanks
I think you made a mistake Alba stumbled door, when he was still a youth at hogwarts, was not pro muggle. In fact he supported wizard superiority and control of the muggle race and identical ideology that he shared with his later romantic interest Grindleward. It was only later in life, after Ariana's death specifical, That dumbledore changed his mentality about those things
Yes, but when Ariana died, he was still quite young and when Dumbledore died, he was already 135 years old so he had lived a long life not being anti-muggle
alba stumbled door 🤣
Thanks! This was very interesting!
I often wondered. After the second war, did Harry and Ginny move into the Home he inherited from Sirius? If not, what became of a home?
That was a dream. JK herself has said she shouldn't have paired ginny with Harry.
I think they moved to Godrick's Hollow eventually, but right after, I dont know
@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi For once I can agree with her. I never really understood why they fell in-love, even after reading the books
Because Ginny and harry had a lot in common
@@brysontipton1893 not movie ginny and harry
Other descendants of the House of Black are Teddy Lupin and Scorpius Malfoy.
The main trio's kids are also descendants 😂
To be honest I doubt the Weasley family we know is descended from the house of black, because ron said his whole family has been in Gryffindor and the black family member known as cedrella has been in Slytherin. And if they were Ron would be third cousins with draco's mother and that seems ridiculous because Ron and draco are the same age.
@@brysontipton1893 Arthur Weasley's mother was Cederella Black, and her cousin Dorea Black married into the Potter family.
Charlus and Dorea are only distantly related to harry because James' parents names are fleamont and euphemia. And Sirius probably meant Arthur was his distant cousin by marriage but left out the by marriage part because it's kind of long to say second cousin once removed by marriage. Besides the name Arthur is too common for a house of black to give to their child.
@@brysontipton1893 Arthur’s mother was disowned for marrying into the Weasley family, so I imagine keeping with tradition wouldn’t be a priority for her at that point.
i just love how there are so many ppl out there who love harry potter as much as me
Are the Blacks somehow related to Dementor creator Ekrizdis? Both Bellabitch and Sirius were in Azkaban but survived.
Sirius used his animagus form to avoid dementors because they can only harm humans. And bellabitch kinda went insane after azkaban
Excellent video
This was excellent
This is why Jacob rarely talk about his mom side of the family because he is the only one who can ensure that there was only three member that were the good wizards and Jacob is the only member of the family left
Cursed child is NOT CANNON!! Their is no child of Voldermort
@@brysontipton1893 there is no Cursed Child in Ba Sing Se!!
@@brysontipton1893 Avatar the last airbender. There is no war in Ba Sing Se
@@brysontipton1893 A, you csn use there is no [insert random thing] in Ba Sing Se for pretty much anything.
B, Roland Barthes 'death of the author' would argue its my right as a reader to state its non canon
@@brysontipton1893 roland barthes death of the author states once a authors work is published, it's the reader who is right with what they believe, 100 people could read the same book and get 100 different view points Barthes, Death of the author states each one is right if only to themselves
@@brysontipton1893 .
A spade is a spade
I've realised I potter away with this channel on and half the time I'm not even listening properly.
I think it's just the fact he has such a calming voice.
He should do bedtime stories for kids.
You’re so Flexy!! Wow!! Thanks for the help! I’m excited to start messing around with bird of paradise!
Weeelllll, not sure I agree with the theory of Voldamort & Bella having a child-as The Crused Child is sort of after-the-fact/tacked on to the stories.
But I did enjoy the family tree breakdown, who's related to whom.
Cursed child is bad fanfiction
@@brysontipton1893 pfft. She had the flu and it was a fever dream lol
@@brysontipton1893 it was sarcasm
@@brysontipton1893 you will find offense where you look for it.
Excited
Jesus christ. Imagine the family reunions lol I'm your half sister but I'm also your cousin and your aunt. Oh and that man over there is our grandpa your uncle and your cousin.
Thanks
what about Tonk's son Teddy? he's apart of the family too
He’s a Lupin. From a grandmother who was burned off the tapestry for marrying a muggle born.
@@tinabrown6340 he still has Tonk's blood and shes related to the Black's all i was saying
Not only that, but after his parents died he was raised primarily by his grandmother, Andromeda Tonks (neé Black), Bellatrix & Narcissa's sister.
By that Logic Draco also has black blood too and so will his children. The Black name itself is dead
His son Scorpius is the only pure blooded relative left.
That place at 1:55 looks familiar like its the balete tree in the Philippines
Iola Hitchens… I think she is exciting. I wrote a story about her when I found out about her. I wrote a story that they ran off to their then fledgeling nation of New Zealand… Funny because that's where I live… And their family line contributed to New Zealand wizardry. In my story, they had six sons and four daughters. One of their daughters went on to marry Alexander Flitwick, the son of another New Zealand wizard in Pioneer Albert Flitwick… The great, great uncle of Filius Flitwick. Alexander Flitwick, in my story, was considered the best minister for magic New Zealand has ever had to date. I also wrote fig about another son of the Hitchens couple. But that is too complicated to go into here. Suffice it to say, that in around about way, one of their sons… The one with the complicated story… His offspring… Or descendants should I say… Did rejoin the magical community in Britton in around about way through characters we know from the books. Yeah, that was fun. Characters like the Hitchens are very fun to write about and can get to the imagination working.
Who were the Ravenclaw Death Eaters that joined Voldemort?
Quirinus Quirrell was a Death Eater ALLY, and maybe Barty Crouch Jr.
@@YellowBear-kx1ffyes barty was a ravenclaw
@@YellowBear-kx1ff quirell didn't join Voldemort of his own free will. He was basically possessed like Ginny
I'm pretty sure Barty couch Jr was in Slytherin
@@WatchTheVideosOnlineSource, please?
It is strange how few grandparents are referenced, when they live so long
The Blacks definitely had some blood magic passed through generations, the Blacks were all said to be magically attractive.
So far the gaunts and malfoys are attractive as well. Yes I’m including gaunts cause of ominis and young Tom riddle.
@@zerotodona1495Well Tom Riddle Got His Looks From His Father..
At least they're trios champions now
My name is Rhoads I was Adopted by Sirius Black and I'm in the Slytherin House as I am secretly being trained by Dolohov to become a Death Eater and become a Highly Powerful Dark Wizard
Wait what??
Delphiini doesn't count as The Cursed Child isn't canon. At all. In any way. I'll list a few reasons why: EVERYTHING
Oh and one more thing:
22:28 Tonks: "DON'T. CALL ME. NYMPHADORA."
Green red yellow any blue?❤
Draco is the daughter of Narcissa Malfoy nee Black Sirius cousin and Tonks I the daughter of Andromeda Tonks nee black Narcissas sister and sinus cousin, making Teddy lupin and Draco Malfoy Sirius cousins once removed. and making Scorpius Malfoy Sirius cousin twice removed. And all the Weasleys are descended from a black to Sirius Grandaunt in fact. and the Longbottoms might also have a black grandmother in the family three. The potters are also related to the blacks via Charlus and Dorea they are likely closely related to Flemont potter Harrys grandfather. And of course Harrys children are related to the black via the Weasley family. So is Hermoines children too.
Not easy being with family or friends or alone
hope Bellatrix and Sirius had kids with someone, bella while sometimes too crazy, shes great, sirius is a decent dude.
In the Cursed Child Bellatrix had a kid with Voldemort.
@@saljpal3 I've heard bad things about that. didn't know the child was Bellatrix's though
@@usern4metak3ns Yeah I prefer to consider Cursed Child non canon. Voldemort having a kid is completely idiotic, just another cash grab.
@@saljpal3 I always thought voldy and nagini might be intimate, but in the books bella was definitely infatuated with him, though if I recall correctly, he denied her
@@usern4metak3ns Nagini was probably already stuck being a snake when she met Voldemort so intimacy would be impossible. Also given Voldemort's obsession with immortality, absolute power, and seeing everyone else as beneath him I can hardly imagine him having any interest in sex, much less procreating a potential usurper.
could the Black family tree be carried on through Phineus or Marius, I am sure they kept the last name...
Depends if they had any male descendants to carry the name Black but also they were disowned so they don’t count
Fun fact: harry potter's main number is 7 and there are seven disowned member of the house of black: 1: Iola 2: Phineas jr 3: Marius 4: Cedrella, 5:Alphard 6:Sirius 7:Andromeda
After Pettigrew escaped we're he live we're magonagel live
Cursed Child should not be considered canon. It makes no sense in the timeline
I think… Draco is the ONLY pure-blood left… well his kid is also pure-blood but yah know
It's true. Draco and scorpius are the only descendants in their generations to be pure blooded. Delphi,tonks, and teddy are all half bloods.
We're fudge living
Who is the eldest sister? Andromeda, Narcissa, or Bellatrix?
Bellatrix. Then Andromeda then Narcissa
Bellatrix a h03
a glorious 304. legendary rider for the cause
😂😂😂
What about the founder's of hogwarts were they come from who raised them
Yea tell me about my family lol 😂
Sirius could live in the woods or pitch a tent 🎪
Does JK put out this information or is there other written information I never knew? Fan based?
I never realized that there were so many narrow-minded people in the Wizarding World.
ANYTHING RELATED TO "CURSED CHILD" IS NOT CANON!!!!!!!!! NOR SHOULD THAT THING EVEN EXIST!!!!!
THEREFORE, IT SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN ANY SORT OF VIDEO PROVIDING LORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Says who?
How fun would it be if Squib Cygnus Black was a distant relative to Hermione Granger?
The squib relative's named marius. his father was named cygnus, and so, was his nephew.
Cassie-oh- pia... Wow, that's a name
It's a constellation... And it's spelled Cassiopeia, most of the names are astronomical references. Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky, Arcturus is a red star, regulus is in Leo, Pollux is in Gemini, cygnus is also a constellation, and Bellatrix is a star in the constellation Orion.
if the "canon" only goes back to the 19th century... why did they always call themselves t"the ancient and honorable house black"? 200 years isnt ancient
It is breeding wise.
The only good Black members (as in, not evil) are Headmaster Black from Hogwarts Legacy, and obviously Serius
Headmaster Black from Hogwarts Legacy is Phineas Nigellus, who is covered in this video and is portrayed in both the books and the Hogwarts Legacy game as an incompetent, blood supremacist git.
you played legacy and thought PNB was a nice guy..? 😂
you played legacy and thought PNB was a nice guy..? 😂
@@lex9313Not nice, but not evil
@@jones9048he was though. He may have preferred pure bloods but he wasn’t cruel to mudbloods and half breeds for no reason. Legacy did expand on his character.
Cools
J.K Rowling was asked to write the Black family tree we see in the movie, so technically it’s canon
We're tonks live
There's only one Sirius black and that's Harry Potter God father.
We're the goblins come from who raised them 👺
What about history of the graunt family 👪⛬
In hogwarts legacy the headmaster is that seris cousin or something?
He's Sirius' great great grandfather, phineas nigellus black
@@brysontipton1893 oh ok thanks
Any time
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We're dumbledore live
Greetings!
Yes
Even with all the nonsense, I doubt any of the Traditionalist Blacks would regret their actions.
We're aberforth living
Looking through their eyes some how like tall look through mine
professor black banned quidditch so i dont like him 😂 hes a fun addition to the series though
Must we really count Delphini?
@@brysontipton1893 Most people I know consider it worse than the worst fanfiction, so I'm not counting it as canon, no matter what Rowling says.
Having an opinion doesn't always mean you're smart. At least I'm agreeing with her because she's telling the truth.
We're the house elves come from who raised them🧝♀️🧝♂️🏡
Hearing Delphini’s name damn near ruined this video for me 😭
@@brysontipton1893 you’re not antagonizing me. Lol! I love all things Harry Potter and was so excited to read the cursed child but I feel like it just went against so many things she had already set up in HP. Some sort of weird retcon. Idc what JK said, I can still dislike that book. For me it just doesn’t fit. I also know there are people who like it. I’m not one of them.
@@brysontipton1893if you think cedric becoming a death eater and voldemort having a kid is realistic maybe you don’t know harry potter as well as you thought🤷♂️
@@brysontipton1893 bruh you on every comment trynna defend the cursed child like jk rowling gonna see your comments just admit it’s trash it’s a lot easier
@@brysontipton1893 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@brysontipton1893 you the one on every comment trying to call people out🤷♂️
Harry looking at the black family tree like
"Why does it nearly go in circles 😂"
im confused, belatrix had a child with voldemort ????
Yeah. She clearly gave him a love potion
@@brysontipton1893lust does not need love.
No, never happened in the 7 books or movies
love your content. but please stop referencing the cursed child.
Voldemort didn't sire delphi out of love. A possibility is bellatrix gave him a love potion, just like what happened with his parents.
And you can't argue your way out of this one.
Im not sure what you mean by argue my way out? The CC is complete dog crap that ruins canon events that JK has put in her books. It feels like a fan fiction book/play that JK sold out and took a bag of money for saying its canon. @@brysontipton1893
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We're moody living
Screw the good ones, Bellatrix was the one. Such a crazy babe & banging af
What about the Gaunt family history??
It’s a wonder the wizarding world isn’t all inbred 😂
black family is like dry water
"Stop! This man isn't Black!"
I think what we've learned from this is that the wizarding world is incredibly inbred.
He could live in a hut
Wait instead of pay for houses in the wizard world y don't they just pitch a tents with magical or live in the woods🧝♀️🧝♂️🧙♀️🎪🗺🧙♂️🏡🏘
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That was so racist.
Bet this won't be pinned
You need to stop referencing anything cursed child as if it’s canon because it’s not. It’s horrible fanfiction and you need to leave it out of your videos. Delfini was not the child of Voldemort and Bellatrix. She never existed because she was created by fanfiction writers for a play.