I have owned the LCP 1 for years. Also the LCP Custom. I have never had any trouble with the guide rod or anything else for that matter. I like your stuff and use it in different firearms. There's no need to discount Ruger to promote your products.
My 380 is a malfunction trainer. Want to love it, but nothing should be so bad out of the box. Maybe NC factory is bad. Still breaking-in (when Ruger says isn't necessary) but didn't realize I'd take the risk of having to modify & replace almost everything on it to be up to standards & reliable. Thought I was getting something 'better' than a SCCY or Taurus but not seeming like it. Could've just got something better.
My factory recoil spring was quite light. I would routinely have hang ups after getting a good amount of rounds through it. When I replaced the spring I noticed a heavy amount of wear on the factory guide rod where it mates against the barrel. I replaced it with a heavy duty after mart one and after a few 100 rounds I have had no issues since. This is all on a LCP 1 I’ve had about 12 years now. Over all it’s been pretty reliable for me.
Most people don't know this, but there's a small hole on the right side of the frame that is for holding the hammer block (sear) forward while you install the frame/chassis (trigger group) into the grip. I always want to call it an "FCU" like on a SIG, but I don't remember what Ruger calls it exactly. You just push the hammer block forward and then put a small punch in the hole to hole it forward. Then pull the punch out after the frame/chassis is in place. A thick paper clip can work also if you don't have a punch that small. It's on the small side of what most punch sets will have in them and I'm sure many of them don't. It's like a 1/16" diameter or something like that. This helps not scratch up the frame by using a punch to push the hammer block forward too. (Although I can see how it's possible for someone to damage/scratch the frame if a mistake is made while using the small hole... but I guess that risk exists with the other method anyways).
Thanks, I'll try this if I need to replace the springs again. Pushing the hammer block forward and popping the slide in place before it snaps back was the toughest part of the install for me, probably took me 15 tries 😅
Just installed a spring kit in my lcp1. Went out and shot it a few minutes ago. Was impressed with it now. I feel better carrying it. Now I like the pistol. Thanks
I just completed the spring change out. My LCP is going to be used by my wife and the factory trigger pull was a bit difficult for her. After the change, she has no problems and, therefore, feels much more comfortable with the gun. I was a bit intimidated doing this myself until I watched the video. Thanks, guys! What a difference this little upgrade has made...an the video tutorial is spot on!
If you own an LCP you have to buy these amazing products I purchased the LCP Spring Kit, Flat Trigger Upgrade Kit and the Takedown Pin. These parts truly transformed my LCP! Everyone knows the trigger that came from Ruger is absolutely horrible and made the LCP very difficult to shoot. No longer! I just installed the Mcarbo parts listed above and instantly noticed an amazing transformation. The trigger is now smooth, trigger take-up is short and the trigger break is crisp. It no longer has that long dreadful long trigger pull. Trigger pull weight was reduced from a measured 6.5 lbs to 4.5 lbs. Last and certainly not least the wide flat trigger is well designed, comfortable along with perfect finger placement. The Mcarbo parts truly transform the LCP into a highly effective shootable pistol. I just got back from the range and I put 50 rounds through it. Before the Mcarbo upgrade I could never get consistently tight groups and it was frustrating to shot. Tonight I consistently got tight groups for the first time ever it is now fun to shoot. More importantly I am now confident I can defend myself with my LCP and would be able to put the shots where necessary to stop the threat. IF YOU OWN AN LCP YOU MUST GET THESE PARTS.
Just got the tiger kit for the LC380 very fast shipping thank you, it took a little longer to install as the LCP is not quite the same but still went in with no problems and works great still a long pull but does not have the hard pull at the end to shoot so the wife can shoot now with more confidence. Thank you!!
I really like the lighter pull but I wasn't expecting such a weak reset now. It barely wants to reset the trigger, maybe I just need to get used to it but I may put the original trigger return spring back in.
NOTE TO ALL: The roll pin retaining the firing pin is now on the side of the slide for current production LCP “1s”. The roll pin for retaining the extractor is now vertical through the slide, which makes extractor removal MUCH easier. This spring set is a MUST have. Along with some Underwood Ammo, makes the LCP a practical, economical, and effective pocket carry. Highly recommend the pinned Hogue grip sleeve as well..
The trigger kit I received was dangerous and unusable. The main reduction came from the trigger return spring, which was so weak it wouldn’t consistently fully return the trigger. I reinstalled the factory return spring and things worked. The other springs made no noticeable difference to trigger pull.
Seen another video and he said that if your lcp has that little star stamp that you cannot put the hammer reduced spring on it or you will only get light strikes
I’ll put link here. But it was closer towards the end as he was assembling it together he shows where or if you are familiar with what the trigger bar is
It did for me - I wish I'd have known that the slide was updated, as the pin on the top now retains the extractor. It was challenging keeping the firing pin at the proper rotation when reinserting the pin.
Ok so if you have the .22 things are a lot different. There are a couple pieces in here that are not addressed in this video BUT after you do get it all installed and back together.. it's such a huge difference! I suggest you watch this MCARBO video for the .22 ALONG with this one for installing the springs. czcams.com/video/na_X8n_xVp8/video.html Also, get the updated schematics directly from the Ruger site.
MCARBO makes great stuff. I've got their springs for several of my guns. However, for an EDC, do you really want to mess with the springs? The legality after a defensive episode may leave you in a lot of trouble. I dont make the laws or the prosecutor's agenda, but if a firearm's manufacture specs are for an 8lb trigger, and your gun is less, then they will use that against you. I wish things weren't so screwed up, but a defensive carry pistol with lighter springs may land you in trouble if you use it.
@@MidnightSvn lol. I guess I am a little wuss. :-) With a lighter trigger in a pocket gun, I’d be afraid of a ND. I carry my lcp2 everywhere including bed. It’s such a lightweight piece, there’s no reason to put it down. With a super light trigger, do you carry it loaded?
@@MidnightSvn ....seems you have never personally seen the aggressiveness ..or completeness of the prosecuting team, who ( if they're good)...will find ANYTHING to convince a jury (many of whom may not be gun savvy)...that your "mods" done, will be used against you. You may have an opposing opinion on this to laugh it all off...... but to call someone a fearful girl for something that has a good chance of happening if the prosecution is good and out-for-blood.....is going a bit too far. And while we're at it.....don't put pictures of skeletons or skulls on the grips of your guns, etc, etc.....it all works against you in a court of law if the other side is good...and they will be.
@@1yehny ...don't be intimidated. I get-it.....a lighter trigger is a worry issue....but....you should be carrying in a pocket holster or IWB holster, that covers the trigger, so your finger can't touch that...and...did you know LCPII has a half-cock-notch safety?...such that in the unlikely case of the cocked hammer being bumped off the sear...the hammer will be arrested by the half-cock notch and not allow the gun to fire? Is this "perfect" ?......no....there is the chance of total mechanical failure if the hammer/sear breaks....but this is incredibly rare.
My 3/32 punch won't go in the slide; well it went in about a 1/16" but it was a bear to get back out. Is there more than one version of the slide? I thought maybe my punch was oversized but my caliper says it is 3/32 on the nose. I got it with my 1/16 punch but the 1/16 punch was big enough to keep the firing pin from firing across the room....oops
Will this kit eliminate the double click that occurs during trigger reset on my original equipment LCP as well as reduce the trigger pull weight? I just bought this LCP and I don't care for that.
Do trigger kits reduce the hammer spring tension to the point of reducing the impact of the firing pin on the round's primer? I've never done a mod like this.
We take that all into account and design them to produce enough hammer energy to hit primers hard enough to ensure reliable ignition even on hard primers like S&B ammo.
@@MCARBO Yesterday I had just the upgraded trigger, I was able to use a good amount of takeup on the set screws to take up the front slack. I got the spring kit today and no matter what I do I cant have any takeup on the setscrew or it wont click twice....unless I'm imaging it, I had about 1-2 mm of takeup yesterday and I had no issues getting it to dry fire and its basically at the stock forward position now.
I have owned the LCP 1 for years. Also the LCP Custom. I have never had any trouble with the guide rod or anything else for that matter. I like your stuff and use it in different firearms. There's no need to discount Ruger to promote your products.
My 380 is a malfunction trainer. Want to love it, but nothing should be so bad out of the box. Maybe NC factory is bad. Still breaking-in (when Ruger says isn't necessary) but didn't realize I'd take the risk of having to modify & replace almost everything on it to be up to standards & reliable. Thought I was getting something 'better' than a SCCY or Taurus but not seeming like it. Could've just got something better.
My factory recoil spring was quite light. I would routinely have hang ups after getting a good amount of rounds through it. When I replaced the spring I noticed a heavy amount of wear on the factory guide rod where it mates against the barrel. I replaced it with a heavy duty after mart one and after a few 100 rounds I have had no issues since. This is all on a LCP 1 I’ve had about 12 years now. Over all it’s been pretty reliable for me.
Most people don't know this, but there's a small hole on the right side of the frame that is for holding the hammer block (sear) forward while you install the frame/chassis (trigger group) into the grip. I always want to call it an "FCU" like on a SIG, but I don't remember what Ruger calls it exactly. You just push the hammer block forward and then put a small punch in the hole to hole it forward. Then pull the punch out after the frame/chassis is in place. A thick paper clip can work also if you don't have a punch that small. It's on the small side of what most punch sets will have in them and I'm sure many of them don't. It's like a 1/16" diameter or something like that. This helps not scratch up the frame by using a punch to push the hammer block forward too. (Although I can see how it's possible for someone to damage/scratch the frame if a mistake is made while using the small hole... but I guess that risk exists with the other method anyways).
Thanks, I'll try this if I need to replace the springs again. Pushing the hammer block forward and popping the slide in place before it snaps back was the toughest part of the install for me, probably took me 15 tries 😅
@@mgcross Hope it helps. Doing that always took me several tries too. Was glad to discover the hole. I knew it had to be there for a reason.
Just installed a spring kit in my lcp1. Went out and shot it a few minutes ago. Was impressed with it now. I feel better carrying it. Now I like the pistol. Thanks
I just completed the spring change out. My LCP is going to be used by my wife and the factory trigger pull was a bit difficult for her. After the change, she has no problems and, therefore, feels much more comfortable with the gun. I was a bit intimidated doing this myself until I watched the video. Thanks, guys! What a difference this little upgrade has made...an the video tutorial is spot on!
If you own an LCP you have to buy these amazing products
I purchased the LCP Spring Kit, Flat Trigger Upgrade Kit and the Takedown Pin. These parts truly transformed my LCP! Everyone knows the trigger that came from Ruger is absolutely horrible and made the LCP very difficult to shoot. No longer!
I just installed the Mcarbo parts listed above and instantly noticed an amazing transformation. The trigger is now smooth, trigger take-up is short and the trigger break is crisp. It no longer has that long dreadful long trigger pull. Trigger pull weight was reduced from a measured 6.5 lbs to 4.5 lbs. Last and certainly not least the wide flat trigger is well designed, comfortable along with perfect finger placement. The Mcarbo parts truly transform the LCP into a highly effective shootable pistol.
I just got back from the range and I put 50 rounds through it. Before the Mcarbo upgrade I could never get consistently tight groups and it was frustrating to shot. Tonight I consistently got tight groups for the first time ever it is now fun to shoot. More importantly I am now confident I can defend myself with my LCP and would be able to put the shots where necessary to stop the threat.
IF YOU OWN AN LCP YOU MUST GET THESE PARTS.
Just installed your spring kit into my LCP Custom. It installed and fit perfectly. My trigger pull went from 5# down to 3.5#. Very nice!
Just got the tiger kit for the LC380 very fast shipping thank you, it took a little longer to install as the LCP is not quite the same but still went in with no problems and works great still a long pull but does not have the hard pull at the end to shoot so the wife can shoot now with more confidence. Thank you!!
Awesome! Glad to hear the excellent results! Thank you for sharing them here.
Works amazing but I did put the factory trigger return spring back in.
Joe's Life 1 why is that?
Just got my kit in and got it installed. This is an ABSOLUTE must have for the LCP1. Outstanding job M*CARBO!
Next up, the SKS kit......
VS Awesome! Glad to hear the excellent results! Thanks Brother for your Support
Just upgraded with your spring kit. Much nicer trigger pull.
Range testing tomorrow.
Thank you.
After my M serious sub2000 build this will be the next project, upgrading my lcp... keep up the great work guys
I really like the lighter pull but I wasn't expecting such a weak reset now. It barely wants to reset the trigger, maybe I just need to get used to it but I may put the original trigger return spring back in.
It’s awful
Great video. I could not have done the job without the video.
NOTE TO ALL: The roll pin retaining the firing pin is now on the side of the slide for current production LCP “1s”. The roll pin for retaining the extractor is now vertical through the slide, which makes extractor removal MUCH easier.
This spring set is a MUST have. Along with some Underwood Ammo, makes the LCP a practical, economical, and effective pocket carry.
Highly recommend the pinned Hogue grip sleeve as well..
Just installed the axis trigger kit and my lcp kit should be here on Friday. It’s gonna be a good weekend at the range
This was a outstanding video on the Trigger Upgrade.Thank you.
Any record of light strikes issues for this upgrade?
Great video. It worked great. Highly recommend this spring kit.
Thanks for this video. Very clear instructions that made installing these very easy. I really love the kit. Thanks guys!
This is great! Been wanting to do this for a long time!
Idk if I'd want a 3lb trigger pull on a gun without a safety
Amazing detail on this video.
Check is in the mail,
The trigger kit I received was dangerous and unusable. The main reduction came from the trigger return spring, which was so weak it wouldn’t consistently fully return the trigger. I reinstalled the factory return spring and things worked. The other springs made no noticeable difference to trigger pull.
i didn't see you use the 1/16 punch. maybe as a pointer.
Seen another video and he said that if your lcp has that little star stamp that you cannot put the hammer reduced spring on it or you will only get light strikes
Where to look for star stamp?
I’ll put link here. But it was closer towards the end as he was assembling it together he shows where or if you are familiar with what the trigger bar is
czcams.com/video/uC_mJvu3Hts/video.html
This Lil kit is fantastic!
Curiosity for my main question: why is the upper portion of the hammer spring bent like that?
My pin on the slide is over to the right of the slide and not in the middle of the slide like yours. Will this still work for me?
It did for me - I wish I'd have known that the slide was updated, as the pin on the top now retains the extractor. It was challenging keeping the firing pin at the proper rotation when reinserting the pin.
If the thick factory spring bent up, how long before the thin aftermarket spring bends out of shape?
I need a replacement aluminum frame 😢 anyone know where to get one
Just a quick question @MCARBO: wouldn't it help to polish the hammer and sear in the LCP II too? As you did in some of your other videos?
Is there anyway to get rid of the two stage trigger reset. That first click on reset is not good in my opinion. Any suggestions?
Unfortunately that is part of the trigger design and would take a complete overhaul of the trigger system.
Ok so if you have the .22 things are a lot different. There are a couple pieces in here that are not addressed in this video BUT after you do get it all installed and back together.. it's such a huge difference! I suggest you watch this MCARBO video for the .22 ALONG with this one for installing the springs. czcams.com/video/na_X8n_xVp8/video.html Also, get the updated schematics directly from the Ruger site.
Price and lead time on lcp 2?
MCARBO makes great stuff. I've got their springs for several of my guns. However, for an EDC, do you really want to mess with the springs? The legality after a defensive episode may leave you in a lot of trouble. I dont make the laws or the prosecutor's agenda, but if a firearm's manufacture specs are for an 8lb trigger, and your gun is less, then they will use that against you. I wish things weren't so screwed up, but a defensive carry pistol with lighter springs may land you in trouble if you use it.
don’t go down the rabbit hole it will make you crazy 😜 ... If you’re justified in using deadly force then you’re justified
@farm doctor you sound like a fearful little girl. Oh no, they're going to bring up an upgraded trigger spring in court? 😂😂😂
@@MidnightSvn lol. I guess I am a little wuss. :-)
With a lighter trigger in a pocket gun, I’d be afraid of a ND. I carry my lcp2 everywhere including bed. It’s such a lightweight piece, there’s no reason to put it down. With a super light trigger, do you carry it loaded?
@@MidnightSvn ....seems you have never personally seen the aggressiveness ..or completeness of the prosecuting team, who ( if they're good)...will find ANYTHING to convince a jury (many of whom may not be gun savvy)...that your "mods" done, will be used against you. You may have an opposing opinion on this to laugh it all off...... but to call someone a fearful girl for something that has a good chance of happening if the prosecution is good and out-for-blood.....is going a bit too far. And while we're at it.....don't put pictures of skeletons or skulls on the grips of your guns, etc, etc.....it all works against you in a court of law if the other side is good...and they will be.
@@1yehny ...don't be intimidated. I get-it.....a lighter trigger is a worry issue....but....you should be carrying in a pocket holster or IWB holster, that covers the trigger, so your finger can't touch that...and...did you know LCPII has a half-cock-notch safety?...such that in the unlikely case of the cocked hammer being bumped off the sear...the hammer will be arrested by the half-cock notch and not allow the gun to fire? Is this "perfect" ?......no....there is the chance of total mechanical failure if the hammer/sear breaks....but this is incredibly rare.
This spring kit looks great! What trigger do you have here and where do I get It?
Thanks!
Does the lighter firing pin spring increase the risk of a discharge if dropped?
No Sir, it's 100% drop test safe. We drop test all trigger spring kits.
I need that inside block piece where can I get one?
My 3/32 punch won't go in the slide; well it went in about a 1/16" but it was a bear to get back out. Is there more than one version of the slide? I thought maybe my punch was oversized but my caliper says it is 3/32 on the nose. I got it with my 1/16 punch but the 1/16 punch was big enough to keep the firing pin from firing across the room....oops
Chris will this work for the custom that is discontinued but my gun shop has one for sale what are you think😀
Yes Sir it will!
Where to buy this kit? And is there a difference between the LCP and LCP1?
www.mcarbo.com/ruger-lcp-accessories.aspx
Any kit to help with the long trigger reset?
Will this kit eliminate the double click that occurs during trigger reset on my original equipment LCP as well as reduce the trigger pull weight? I just bought this LCP and I don't care for that.
you can still hear the double click reset on the video
@@TeamMadcrew thanks, I was watching this in a large room with lots of back ground noise. Didn't realize that, thanks.
All double action only pistols will have the 2 clicks on the reset.
Is it ok to use the stainless steel guide rod with a stainless slide?
Yes
Are there any worries of light hammer strike not mutch content at the range
We test our kits with the hardest commercially available primers. If it doesn't pass our testing it doesn't become a kit for sale.
Thank you it's just arrived cant wait to install you guys are absolutely amazing
Where can I buy this kit??
Hey Brother, right here: www.mcarbo.com/ruger-lcp-trigger-spring-kit-ruger-lcp-trigger-upgrade.aspx
Is the LCP 1, the original LCP, because I thought the original LCP’s trigger pull was like 14 lbs.
It did not.
Do trigger kits reduce the hammer spring tension to the point of reducing the impact of the firing pin on the round's primer? I've never done a mod like this.
We take that all into account and design them to produce enough hammer energy to hit primers hard enough to ensure reliable ignition even on hard primers like S&B ammo.
followed the directions to a T...3x.....will not dry fire properly
What issue are you having?
@@MCARBO Yesterday I had just the upgraded trigger, I was able to use a good amount of takeup on the set screws to take up the front slack. I got the spring kit today and no matter what I do I cant have any takeup on the setscrew or it wont click twice....unless I'm imaging it, I had about 1-2 mm of takeup yesterday and I had no issues getting it to dry fire and its basically at the stock forward position now.
@@MCARBO So it is working now, but the trigger has to be i the full foreword position.
Great help seriously 👍👍👍👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌
Where to buy this kit??
On our website MCARBO.com