Lord of the Rings Pinball: The Valinor Strategy

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2014
  • A Lord of the Rings pinball strategy guide on how to reach the elusive mode, Valinor.
    This video was created by the Professional & Amateur Pinball Association. More pinball videos and information is available at www.papa.tv
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Komentáře • 150

  • @PrSndreLrsn
    @PrSndreLrsn Před 5 lety +38

    First 54minutes and 32 seconds explains the ruleset of this wonderful pin perfectly. Last 6seconds sums up pinball in general. Well done Sir!

  • @NaturalProgressGames
    @NaturalProgressGames Před 10 lety +46

    "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!" After all that amazing top level play... wow... just wow.

    • @TheWhatsupfolks
      @TheWhatsupfolks Před 4 lety +3

      I think - HE did it just for teasing and shocking the CZcams watchers. And other thing - I believe, STERN PINBALL, probably, didn't allow to show the completions of their pinball games in public. There are many STERN pinball games which nobody saw fully completed. Many of them!

    • @henriquedearruda8902
      @henriquedearruda8902 Před 2 lety +1

      The game doesn’t have a whole lot of speech but it is awsome speech.

    • @user82938
      @user82938 Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheWhatsupfolkstruly psycho if you believe this.

  • @PAPApinball
    @PAPApinball  Před 10 lety +56

    For anyone who is interested, I've actually been given an incredibly useful tip. Starting Gollum multiball will turn off Destroy the Ring, meaning when Fellowship is the final mode left, the proper play would have been to start Gollum, and then use that to finish Fellowship prior to starting Destroy the Ring. This progression would have saved having to start TTT and ROTK.

    • @scramblethink
      @scramblethink Před 10 lety +4

      …so show us what you have learned! (don´t give up) This vid is very entertaining, thanks! Edited in some more tips for you.

    • @noahcrable3053
      @noahcrable3053 Před 10 lety +11

      I'm sorry, but pinball is much more than flailing around a ball preventing it from draining. And he NEVER spoiled the game while playing, he just wanted to get ahead with certain objectives.
      But if you want to play pinball the casual way that's fine. I'll just head to my Stern Star Trek and play though all 18 modes.

    • @vidlover69
      @vidlover69 Před 10 lety +19

      yogibear2k10 you must be a 12 year old Call Of Duty player

    • @DrPollo1985
      @DrPollo1985 Před 9 lety +2

      great tutorial videos your a great player.... i have a favor to ask from you can you do a tutorial for pin bot that would be great.

    • @Goldenkitten1
      @Goldenkitten1 Před 9 lety +11

      yogibear2k10 And football is nothing but a bunch of guys running back and forth on a court chasing after a ball when you oversimplify it. Doesn't stop millions of people from watching it or players getting contracts worth millions of dollars.

  • @nikolaswolff
    @nikolaswolff Před 9 lety +39

    That ending O___O
    Condolences to you, sir. I laughed at the blood curdling yell, but then immediately felt remorse for you. Still, much further than I've ever been!

  • @joystickjedi
    @joystickjedi Před 6 lety +24

    Wait, that's how it ends?? Omg, I was emotionally invested by the time that final DTR started.

  • @Grak70
    @Grak70 Před 6 lety +56

    I can't believe I watched this for an hour only to see that last drain.

  • @FloydMaxwell
    @FloydMaxwell Před 6 lety +5

    One of the most epic pinball battles I've ever seen, and I started playing 48 years ago.

  • @kenrabow
    @kenrabow Před 8 lety +5

    This is my favorite LOTR video. It teaches me a lot of the strategies as well as the way to "handle" three balls in multi-ball in a clever way. Very hard to do. It shows patience and focus on the prize. The most perfect ending as well. I can't say I was disappointed at first but it's like the movie "The Commitments". It would not have been as artful to have them just win the day. Also, it makes it more exciting when (not if) I finally get to Valinor. I LOVE PAPApinball!!!

  • @E-78
    @E-78 Před rokem +2

    Love this game, probably the only machine i ever got to play semi-regularly. Brings back a lot of memories.

  • @HauntedMound666
    @HauntedMound666 Před 8 lety

    Very nice multiball and overall Juggling. Love your work PAPA

  • @exyex
    @exyex Před 5 lety +2

    You are super skillful! 54:26 That ending was absolutely brutal.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 Před rokem

    Great content man! Fun to watch and great angles!

  • @rarellanbrasil
    @rarellanbrasil Před 6 lety +1

    Great video!!! Congrats!!! learned a lot... you almost need to have the machine to know it this well... fortunately I have one, I will enjoy much, much more! Thanks!

  • @lazerhawk6250
    @lazerhawk6250 Před 10 lety +1

    I was watching this and totally ignored the progress bar at the bottom of the screen until you drained out of destroy the ring. Intense video and fantastic play MHS!!! I feel like this is the first time I've seen someone play LOTR! Really great vid thanks so much for all that you do!!

    • @paulsolfelt8452
      @paulsolfelt8452 Před 2 lety

      Once the ring is destroyed you don't want to lose that ball until you get the all the shots down or you are screwed, lol!

  • @ellispoo44
    @ellispoo44 Před 9 lety

    oh man that is such a good video so close - Watching Robert Gagno get there was awesome

  • @peter486
    @peter486 Před 4 lety

    this game is Huge kept looking at the disolat board there are new things all the time. what a cool Pinball game

  • @leotills3017
    @leotills3017 Před 9 lety

    Wow! What a cool game. You're fantastic at it, too! Well met, good sir!

  • @doctormoc
    @doctormoc Před 10 lety

    Holy shiz. SO close. Hats off to you buddy, amazing pinball.

  • @Maverick-iz1go
    @Maverick-iz1go Před 8 lety +10

    Wow. That failure scream at the end...

  • @titanpinball6178
    @titanpinball6178 Před 10 lety +1

    Great Video. Loved the commentary sprinkled throughout.

  • @reeseexplains8935
    @reeseexplains8935 Před 3 lety

    One of the greatest pinball machines of all time.

  • @eliacaneppele
    @eliacaneppele Před 7 lety

    Il finale lascia l'amaro ma rende l'idea di quanto sia difficile completare questo fantastico pinball (o come diciamo in Italia "flipper"). Gran video! AAAAA!!! cit.

  • @twobeer3316
    @twobeer3316 Před rokem

    I play this game every week at my local skating rink, it's a blast.

  • @evanspeterg
    @evanspeterg Před 10 lety

    I get through FotR by backhanding the sword ramp and hitting Balrog from the right flipper. You can also light the palantir during multiball and get one add-a-ball to help you extend your chances.

  • @craigmanning2439
    @craigmanning2439 Před 5 lety +4

    Scored 1,008,000,000 on this machine. Owned it for 7 years and only got to Valinor twice. Its a tough game.

  • @blaetman
    @blaetman Před 10 lety +19

    That scream

  • @ppo190
    @ppo190 Před 10 měsíci

    I had no idea that pinball machines were this complex with so much to do!!

  • @happypoo3201
    @happypoo3201 Před 9 lety

    Could upload all your tutorial videos in 1080p, please. It really helps with details.

  • @olegtarasovrodionov
    @olegtarasovrodionov Před 4 lety +2

    17:53 word multipliers mispelt lol

    • @mystman1210
      @mystman1210 Před 4 lety

      Oh my gosh, I can't believe I've never noticed that before!

  • @PlayerOPS
    @PlayerOPS Před 2 lety

    Wonderful!

  • @ALSPINNBALL1
    @ALSPINNBALL1 Před 8 lety

    Just curious out of Lord of the rings or Walking dead pinball machines which one would you say is the best out of the two?? Love your videos. Your one of the best player out their!

  • @austinaddision9138
    @austinaddision9138 Před 5 lety

    I love this pin ball game

  • @matthewrichardson317
    @matthewrichardson317 Před 6 lety +2

    may i just say real quick i clicked this video to see valinator to only come and watch an hour long video to see a drain with a pretty badass scream

  • @Titanic4
    @Titanic4 Před 8 lety +6

    23:23 - this is why the playfield glass is important in a pinball machine...

    • @willom8653
      @willom8653 Před 5 lety

      Actually playing without the glass is what saved his ball on this case otherwise it would have been a drain :D
      It's a common rip off on LOTR on the left ramp.. Maybe the metallic rails aren't thick enough ? Don't know..

    • @Titanic4
      @Titanic4 Před 2 lety

      @ch282 I guess that the ball wouldn't be able to fit between the apron and the playfield glass. After a loud noise, caused by a ball smacking the glass, the ball would land into left outlane.

  • @shirleyknott1969
    @shirleyknott1969 Před 10 lety +5

    so with two EBs saved, could you now have just replayed destroy the ring? or did you have to go and play, or at least start, all three multiballs again?
    also i found it painful every time you deliberately drained a ball. that was like killing a kitten.

  • @HauntedMound666
    @HauntedMound666 Před 8 lety

    Also, if you read the comments this far back, I was wondering why you used tilting sparingly on this table, I assume it was just being careful after your first tilt

  • @johndoe-yw7eb
    @johndoe-yw7eb Před 7 měsíci

    LotR noob question: if you're playing War of the Ents to help qualify the RotK multi-ball, wouldn't you be better off building up the switch values in PotD before starting the mode?

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk Před 10 lety +1

    Wow, the ending, haha.. I feel your pain, man!!

  • @colemangreen4191
    @colemangreen4191 Před 3 měsíci

    Did you need to collect the final gift of the elves before starting destroy the ring?

  • @pearofsalamanca
    @pearofsalamanca Před 6 lety +13

    The assumption that the viewer knows the rules of LOTR is a hell of an assumption to make, considering how complex this table is.

    • @VexJinks
      @VexJinks Před 5 lety +1

      This is a Valinor tutorial though, which is the hardest objective to achieve on this table.

  • @janklaasen1014
    @janklaasen1014 Před 3 lety

    My dream pinball machine.

  • @nottud
    @nottud Před 10 lety +1

    I just had a fantastic game on Lord of the rings setting up Valinor and started destroy the ring but lost my ball after getting 3 of the shots! :(
    I managed to relight destroy the ring but lost my last ball...
    Feel your frustration!

  • @roysteeghs8161
    @roysteeghs8161 Před 6 lety +2

    Which pinball is better lord of the rings or Indiana Jones?

  • @alifspigner9226
    @alifspigner9226 Před 4 lety

    The most successful and phenomenonal Multiball to play with Hurry Up in Lord of the Rings Pinball is the Two Towers Mulitball because specifically when you spell Keep the Keep will light the lock on the sword.

  • @DarthVader-jk2wv
    @DarthVader-jk2wv Před 7 měsíci

    Proudly reached Valinor...once. Took me about 3+ hours or play and too many extra balls to count.

  • @therealrictuar
    @therealrictuar Před 6 lety

    its LIT

  • @ConversusVans
    @ConversusVans Před 6 lety +2

    I wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes on this. The LotR pinball at my local bowling alley is freakin' rigged and the flippers are weak. I've reached 15 million. You're damn good.

  • @SaraLongsChannel
    @SaraLongsChannel Před 9 lety +4

    That ending though. That's too bad.

  • @lecujh123
    @lecujh123 Před 10 lety +1

    If you chase extra balls, you can also get these by Ring frenzy and Ring Multiball.

  • @WaddleJrJr
    @WaddleJrJr Před 8 lety +1

    Did draining during Destroy the Ring at the end reset his progress towards Valinor, or after that on his remaining 2 balls would he have been able to just do the three multiballs again, then Destroy the Ring to start Valinor?

    • @Hennesg
      @Hennesg Před 8 lety

      +WaddleJrJr Good Question Answer please

    • @PAPApinball
      @PAPApinball  Před 8 lety +2

      +Hennesg Progress is not totally reset, just the multiballs.

    • @theharvardyard2356
      @theharvardyard2356 Před rokem

      @@PAPApinball so did you end up making it?

  • @jeremysoronen8154
    @jeremysoronen8154 Před 8 lety +1

    That ring shot is easier if the spinner is sitting in the right orientation when resting.

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti Před rokem

    54:30 That is the sound of pure _pain._

  • @wilsonhunter7496
    @wilsonhunter7496 Před 4 lety +1

    I don’t understand the ending... he was on ball 2 with extra ball available. Is there a reason that failing to destroy the ring there makes you ineligible for Valinor? Or is it simply frustration that 3 multiballs must be started again before destroying the ring?

    • @Mitchzizzle
      @Mitchzizzle Před 2 lety

      Yes he would have to put in another HOUR of play to be able to start the mode again. Ouch

  • @Riz2336
    @Riz2336 Před 8 lety +1

    I'm not a fan of Lord of the rings, never seen any of the movies but the game looks fun.

  • @fredroman9463
    @fredroman9463 Před 5 lety +1

    Devon Tennison as Cookie Masterson Hobbit Stifler and Nayomi Rodriguez as Schmitty Hobbit Stifler wants to thank you for playing the Lord of the Rings Pinball game.

  • @jamesl.anderson1384
    @jamesl.anderson1384 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Frodo : I will take the Ring to Mordor! Though... I do not know the way.
    Gandalf : I will help you bear this burden,
    Aragorn : [to Frodo] You have my sword...
    Legolas : And you have my bow.
    Gimli : You have *my* axe.
    Boromir : If this is indeed the will of the Council, then Gondor will see it done.
    Sam : Mr. Frodo's not going anywhere without me.
    Merry : We're coming too!
    Pippin : you need people of intelligence on this sort of mission...quest...thing...

  • @likilikiki
    @likilikiki Před 2 lety

    Fantastic table with a superb sound track.
    Christopher Lee's "A new Power is Rising" never fails to give me the goose tits.

  • @Konuvis
    @Konuvis Před 2 lety +1

    I want Stern to reissue this table so bad!

  • @DrkBlueXG
    @DrkBlueXG Před 3 lety

    2:27 that dead stop on the ball is unreal

    • @game-azing
      @game-azing Před rokem

      That is a live catch. It takes REAL practice to do that. Even I can't do that!

  • @ElendilAndurilz
    @ElendilAndurilz Před 9 lety

    Is Barad-Dur always supposed to eject into Orthanc like that? I've always found it ejects straight into O R C, perhaps some adjustments are in order!

    • @PAPApinball
      @PAPApinball  Před 9 lety

      The coin door was open so we could use a cooling fan on the flippers. When the coin door is open, the kickout is different.

    • @ElendilAndurilz
      @ElendilAndurilz Před 9 lety

      PAPApinball Ahh, that makes sense I should have guessed it was the coin door. It certainly looked helpful for collecting souls via PoTD! I've heard the flipper coils on this machine really heat up, is a cooling fan a good idea for an at home setup as well? I've never heard of such a thing honestly!

    • @PAPApinball
      @PAPApinball  Před 9 lety

      ElendilAndurilz In this case, the game plays for so long that shots toward the end of the video wouldn't have been possible without a fan. Some players mount them inside the game, or use RC Car fans that clip onto the coils, but in 99% of cases you don't need it. It's just a mod for when you know a game is going to be played for hours.

    • @ElendilAndurilz
      @ElendilAndurilz Před 9 lety +1

      PAPApinball Okay, so it really only becomes an issue if the heat on the coils is weakening the flippers and causes shots to be more difficult/impossible. I do own this particular machine, and I've never experienced that even after 1-2 hour games! I wonder if my locations is just well enough ventilated, or if the machine just doesn't have enough play on it yet.

    • @PAPApinball
      @PAPApinball  Před 9 lety

      ElendilAndurilz Correct. There's upgraded flipper coils out there too, so perhaps your game has those. Also, things like game pitch come into play. Mainly it's the center ring shot that becomes impossible after a period of time.

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009 Před 4 lety

    I wish pinball arcade or ponball fx made this game

  • @GenGamesUniverse
    @GenGamesUniverse Před 10 měsíci

    I have to say, LOTR Stern pinball isn't one of my favourites, I find it VERY hard to keep the ball in play as half the damn time, it either drains from the flippers OR just drains when I'm in the Balrog fight part. Same goes for the Multiballs no matter if it's FOTR, TT, ROTK or Gollum Multiball, the balls are shot really fast so you never get a chance to save the balls.

  • @jazzcat123
    @jazzcat123 Před rokem

    That scream. Sums it all up. 1 hour of play, and it drains like that....

  • @game-azing
    @game-azing Před rokem

    Watching this for a full hour and getting a headache untill at the very end... dear lord.

  • @CaptainBZarre
    @CaptainBZarre Před 9 lety

    5:23 Gimli needs to take a chill pill...

  • @Vestu
    @Vestu Před 8 lety

    It's friggin hard to hit the center shot hard enough to hit the ring. I've gotten over 270 million in this game and never once destroyed the ring and have hard time initating the ring modes. I get the ball to go to the center ramp easily but it always falls short of the ring...

  • @johns8081
    @johns8081 Před 8 lety

    Lol at the end

  • @SunnyFLBoy
    @SunnyFLBoy Před 8 lety +3

    what happened at the end? did you fail?

    • @DrenchPipe106
      @DrenchPipe106 Před 8 lety +4

      +H. Anderrer All he needed to do to reach valinor was shoot 3 more passages without dying and he would've got there. So if I was playing my own LOR pinball machine and made it this far... I would have smashed in the playfield glass.

    • @SunnyFLBoy
      @SunnyFLBoy Před 8 lety

      +Blaise Mcgrath LOL :-)

    • @WakiMiko
      @WakiMiko Před 8 lety +4

      +Blaise Mcgrath fortunately he had taken off the playfield glass beforehand

    • @Thice123
      @Thice123 Před 7 lety +1

      But he had an extra ball and ball three! why not keep playing?

    • @MisterVercetti
      @MisterVercetti Před rokem

      @@Thice123 Because to get back to Destroy the Ring, he'd have to restart all three multiballs. TTT and RotK aren't too bad since their requirements never get any harder (in fact, I'd say RotK actually gets _easier_ over time due to the number of souls you get from landing in the Shire at the end of Path of the Dead increasing each time you make it, up to a maximum of 750). FotR, however, is _notoriously_ difficult to start beyond the first attempt due to it requiring _eight_ shots in a _very_ specific order, plus hitting the bumpers enough times to collect Boromir, _also_ at a very specific time. It's a Herculean task that you want to have on your plate as little as humanly possible.

  • @jamesl.anderson1384
    @jamesl.anderson1384 Před 4 měsíci +1

    53:22

  • @webdiddy
    @webdiddy Před 9 lety

    You big tease you! ;)

  • @Grimlock1968
    @Grimlock1968 Před 7 lety

    @ 21:01 you cheatededed! (probably already mentioned already) Great video, I like the overhead split viewing. subscribed.

    • @jayj791
      @jayj791 Před 7 lety

      how did he cheat ?

    • @bassplayer2011ify
      @bassplayer2011ify Před 7 lety +1

      He didn't cheat the ball was stuck even if he let the machine do a ball search it wouldn't find it. And I don't think anyone one would care if he did cheat he isn't playing in a tournament and this is one of the hardest games ever made.

  • @JeffreyMasingill
    @JeffreyMasingill Před 10 lety

    this broke my heart. i just can't accept the ending.

  • @Thad11
    @Thad11 Před 9 lety

    Wait, how is that the end? I could have sworn you still had a ball left.

    • @Logan912
      @Logan912 Před 7 lety

      Draining resets the progress towards Valinor for all the multiballs. That made it basically impossible to get to Valinor at that point.

  • @antonvlasjuk3079
    @antonvlasjuk3079 Před 9 lety

    SDMEWM ( Super Duper Mega Extreme Wizard Mode on The Simpsons Pinball Party is more difficult than Valinor!

  • @NeptuneIncorporated2006
    @NeptuneIncorporated2006 Před 5 lety +1

    I got it at my house

  • @turbostatic1
    @turbostatic1 Před 7 lety

    108,906,580 is as far as I've got, good game

  • @bassplayer2011ify
    @bassplayer2011ify Před 7 lety +1

    And this is why I don't go for wizard modes.

  • @lolyackerz9393
    @lolyackerz9393 Před 10 lety +3

    Saddest video ever!!!!!!!!!

  • @jatomic7793
    @jatomic7793 Před 5 lety

    I cane here from many different sites trying to figure out what "special" does. If anythin got it many times and i find it useless

    • @ryguy88games
      @ryguy88games Před 4 lety

      It gives you a replay

    • @jatomic7793
      @jatomic7793 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ryguy88games ah ok. Never would make a difference cuase its set to free games

  • @jamesdavis5096
    @jamesdavis5096 Před rokem

    Extra extra read all about it extra ball

  • @henriquedearruda8902
    @henriquedearruda8902 Před 2 lety

    Is the lord of the rings the good guys or the bad guys the LORD of the rings are they The good guys in the movie?

  • @d-party4
    @d-party4 Před rokem

    14:31 Ring shot 🥵

  • @iamfiefo
    @iamfiefo Před 5 lety

    I actually "finished" this pinball machine. Must've cost me a pretty penny... and I didn't even get the highest score!

  • @MrGrizmint
    @MrGrizmint Před 10 lety

    could have saved it too, just flipped backwards.

  • @ALSPINNBALL1
    @ALSPINNBALL1 Před 8 lety

    I guess no response of which pinball machine you like to play out of the two pinball machines

  • @daveoliveri9404
    @daveoliveri9404 Před 9 lety

    OMG

  • @TheWayOutisThru
    @TheWayOutisThru Před 9 lety

    I would prefer this view mode whilst watching PAPA tournaments on CZcams :D,... just saying

    • @bowenkerins
      @bowenkerins Před 9 lety

      That camera view has a severe impact on the player, and is not practical for competition play. Basically think about where that camera is and what it means for the person playing...

    • @TheWayOutisThru
      @TheWayOutisThru Před 9 lety

      of course, that makes sense Mr Kerins. It would still be an awesome angle for the viewer however :D hmmm Head cam ? lol. loving the vids btw, keep em coming and thank you.

    • @bowenkerins
      @bowenkerins Před 9 lety

      TheWayOutisThru Unfortunately head cam is a disaster. I wish it weren't! Enjoy.

  • @markrogers6966
    @markrogers6966 Před 6 lety

    21:34 Oops.

  • @mattcaine9938
    @mattcaine9938 Před rokem

    54:30. Agony of defeat

  • @mikeogilvie2051
    @mikeogilvie2051 Před 10 lety +2

    What? Where's the rest?

    • @aviteuro1820
      @aviteuro1820 Před 4 lety

      He drained. Even with an extra ball, once you drain, ALL progress is reset.

  • @kayom2000
    @kayom2000 Před 3 lety

    The background music / sounds are annoying.

  • @filburt79
    @filburt79 Před 10 lety

    Wow... you gotta be kidding me. It's not even April Fools.

  • @lolyackerz9393
    @lolyackerz9393 Před 9 lety

    You had shoot agian dude!!!!

    • @pinballwiz45b
      @pinballwiz45b Před 9 lety

      That wasn't the point. He worked hard for all of this -- and now this opportunity to reach Valinor has diminished. He'd have to do EVERYTHING all over again just for that chance.

  • @magneto8472
    @magneto8472 Před 5 lety

    Ist doch ganz einfach ... demnächst mache ich 1 Milliarde Punkte ...

  • @RECTmetal
    @RECTmetal Před 6 lety

    :(

  • @rickogden204
    @rickogden204 Před 11 měsíci

    What a waste of my life watching you fail

  • @ferro706
    @ferro706 Před 5 lety +1

    He is playing to much with the flippers sometimes therefor the ball just drops.

  • @game-azing
    @game-azing Před rokem

    32:47