Is The Abyss Twin DEAD? || Genshin Theory [4.6]
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- The Third Descender met their untimely demise at the hands of the First and Second Descenders, who needed to create the gnoses to prevent the Primordial One's order from collapsing. But who is the Third? What was their story and how did it end like this?
But most importantly, why are they so similar to the traveler? One can only wonder if the two are related. Perhaps they are even twins...
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Hello everyone! Tragedy has struck! I accidentally recorded the voiceover in mono instead of stereo, so if you are using earbuds/headphones you will only be able to hear my voice on one side. Unfortunately there is no fix for this, other than remaking the entire thing. I know it's really annoying, I'm so sorry about it 🙏! I hope it's still watchable!
You can fix it in Premiere by going to the audio track in the project tab, right click - modify - audio channels, then change - 'clip channel format' to stereo and check the box for 'R'.
On iOS you (the viewer) can go into accessibility settings > audio & visual > mono audio. This will make the voiceover play in both earbuds.
In DaVinci Resolve right click on the audio file, select "Clip Attributes" and in the Audio menu switch to "Stereo" and add the mono channel to both left and right. (I think the mono channel is titled "Track 1" or something I can't recall but I did have this issue once before and this is what helped)
My left ear is dead dawg😭
thanks for sharing this. I thought my headphones broke XD
I refuse to believe this for one reason only.
That cutscene at the end of Xianyun's story quest.
I don't want to see my Aether in such pain ever again.
same with my lumine lol
Except it will happen because after what happened in chapter 3 act 6 it’s not only a glimpse of what she has become because you gotta remember what the abyss herald said back in chapter 3 act 1 and I imagine in natlan act 6 this will happen czcams.com/video/gu_z4u6Ry1c/video.htmlsi=XFi04b3aOaYiHIg7
@@kevingame3198 - The Abyss Herald in Chapter 3 Act 1 was just giving typical villain "haha, they all actually hate you!" type dialogue.
And the point of Chapter 3 Act 6 was to show us a glimpse of the beginning of the Abyss Order, and how our twin got caught up in that. We still don't know what exactly changed that she became convinced she is actually their princess.
If you remember the Gnostic Chorus, the first heir was *deceived* into believing they ruled the kingdom of darkness.
Just did this quest, shit ruined my day 😭😭😭
Another things is that, for someone allegedly obsessed with creating a Primordial Human, Rhinedottir spent an awful lot of time pulling souls from the Abyss and putting them into custom made bodies.
Yup! It's also really weird that she never tried to replicate her success after creaing Albedo. One and done, that's it? For real?
@@BluesLoreCrumbs Well, that one can be explained by a lack of resources. I mean, Rhinedottir and Albedo were wandering underground, sometimes forced to eat giant spiders, and did not have access to Kaenri'ah's shops, labs or any sort of finances.
Not exactly the best environment for replicating experiments or rising kids.
I suspect Rhinedottir was only rising Albedo, because he started growing back in Kaenri'ah, and she was able to save him from the Cataclysm, and she could not abandon him.
This theory is absolutely plausible, it fits into some of mine a bit too well :') I'm convinced that either the Traveler, Paimon, or the sibling is going to die in the end, and of the three, the sibling is the most likely to me. I was actually originally very excited about specifically xianyun and yoimiya's first and second story quest respectively, because unlike many stories, they don't say that "eventually you have to wake up to reality", but rather "your dreams can become/be your reality". I actually really liked that, but now I realize that might be the dream trying to keep the Traveler there
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Naur cause as soon as Skirk mentioned that gnosi was the remains of the thrid descender i was convinced of this theory. Then I was wondering why the mc sibling was so calm when they heard what Skirk said too ... like lumine you know they talking about your BRO, right? 😅
Not necessarily the abyse sibling isn't a descender.her whole theory crumble when she mantion that all outlanders aren't recorded in irmansul which is simply not true because narwhal was recorded as Nahida said herself.and narwhal isn't from tyvat
Did you realize something the. 4 descender traits that rene said perfectly fits with the 4 shades
Asmoday/sustainer
Shade of life/creator
Shade of death/destroyer
Shade of time/protector
Of heavenly principles the 4 heavenly envoys that ruled humans in unified civilization era
Also says reborn as a holy infant i think this is what phanes did to become a god(in orphic cosmonogy borns from an cosmic egg from.abyss and the egg's name called aether) the heavens responded the summoning bc they need the descender for resurrecting the phanes with thr descender but khaenri'ah wants to use descender in crimson moon ritual for create a god with transcendal person but asmoday didn't gave a permission for this and the io io pan that which lies beneath thr great sea the pan probably represents the phanes, and in percy Jackson books the pan was lost and the pan's Homeland is arcadia the lost paradise,we will go to little paradise find the phanes or what remains from him
They need aether(descender) but they used lumine(ordinary outlander) that's the reason why celestia needs aether and some power bring aether from the 500 years ago to now(maybe istaroth or paimon)
This theory is very plausible and a great plot twist. Your onto something!
Twins arrive after new Mondstadt city is built 2600 years ago, which is plenty of time after the Archon war began.
While it's true we see the meteors fly over the city, I personally put little to no stock on that cutscene for a very simple reason: it's conjecture. The first thing the traveler experienced in Teyvat was the cataclysm, which means that they have no memory of their arrival. They might even have already been asleep by then. Besides, we see two meteors getting very close to the ground, so Aether and Lumine would have crashed in close proximity to one another. That's not a likely scenario due to the twin not waking up the traveler; the legend behind the Starfell lake also suggests that it was a single shooting star that made the crater.
Talking about the crater, can you picture the damage inflicted by a meteor big enough to house a person crashing full force into the ground? I doubt the people of Mondstadt would not have felt it if the city was already where it currently is. In that case, I feel like we would have something more solid regarding the creation of the lake than a simple legend.
And then there is the opening cutscene of the beta version. While not cannon it still gives us some insight into what the writers were orginally planning. It tells us that the traveler "awakens to the bitter cold". We know that Mondstadt was covered in ice during the archon war and perhaps before that, but present day Mondsatdt, with the exception of Dragonspine, is much warmer, with no ice in sight. All of this leads me to believe that the twins truly did arrive before the archon war, whether or not the twin is the Third Descender.
The meteors in the cutscene are likely nothing more than the traveler trying to piece everything together after waking up for the second time. They have no idea of how much time has passed, so upon seeing Mondstadt it would be normal for them to assume that the city was already there when they arrived.
> That's not a likely scenario due to the twin not waking up the traveler
That mystery is independent of any theory of them initially being separated when they land, because even after, let's say, years of hunting for the Traveler's meteor and having it dragged to Khaenri'ah, the Sibling still chooses to NOT awake the Traveler. So whatever the reason for that it is not altered by whether or not the two meteorites came down in the same spot initially.
> can you picture the damage inflicted by a meteor big enough to house a person crashing full force into the ground?
We're told two moons blow up and fall to Teyvat and that should have liquified the entire mantle. Perhaps we don't need to get quite so realistic? This is a magical world where rocks are often seen floating in mid air, defying gravity. Besides which why would you think the meteorites came crashing down? They look like they were moving pretty slowly and in a controlled manner, almost horizontally in the cutscene. They are a space ship not an actual hunk of rock. The better question might be why do they crash at all? Perhaps the Traveler's meteorite has a minor malfunction which causes it to crash at the last moment, separating the two landing sites and accounting for why the Sibling can't wake the Traveler up for a while? Who knows. But it's certainly not hard to invent scenarios that explain it all. The plot requires some sort of difference between the two and a minor malfunction would work just fine since it's an arbitrary choice between the two Twins.
> "awakens to the bitter cold"
But even in the beta they are not in Teyvat at that point but up in the sky in the firmament city. Not unreasonable to say being in the high atmosphere is cold. I suspect even in the beta they planed for the Traveler to be captured in that firmament city and they escape once the power of the Sustainer weakens sufficiently for the prison they are in to lose power and thus they escape only after the delay of 500 years. In the 2nd anniversary web event the Traveler is drawn walking along in the firmament city after they escape and then they have to jump / fly / float down from it to reach Teyvat below. So it's confirmed they were not in Teyvat for those 500 years.
> The meteors in the cutscene are likely nothing more than the traveler trying to piece everything together
It's not a bad explanation because the context is Traveler telling Paimon a story (or actually the other way around I suppose) and the cutscene could be interpreted as Paimon's imagination of what happened that she relates. But it does leave the name and archive description of Starfell lake hanging. But I suppose those legends could as easily be explained by an event 7000 years ago as one 2600 years ago or 600 years ago.
I still don't like a huge amount of time ago because of Clothar's remarks to Sibling. "You were supposed to be...." it feels like Sibling arrived in Clothar's life time. It doesn't feel like Clothar is talking to a god-like being that was around for thousands of years before he was even born and might have even founded Khaenri'ah itself or something crazy. Also it feels like he wouldn't blame Sibling for precipitating events if Sibling had been doing their thing for thousands and thousands of years before Clothar was even born. Again it would hardly be possible for Clothar to pretend not to recognize this god-like being that had led his nation for thousands of years. He has a lot of respect for the Sibling but he's also sort of like well I didn't rub shoulders with the royal family crowd even though I was a pureblood noble it was from a minor family. Whatever thing the Sibling was doing for Khaenri'ah it feels like it wasn't going on for thousands of years or how is it anything to do with causing a Cataclysm? If it was going to go bad it would have gone bad thousands of years ago.
We now know that Khaenri'ah was always on the lookout for descenders and outlanders. Even if sibling wasn't a descender at that time (and likely they were, only to sacrifice this status later on for reasons unknown as yet) it's easy to see them being given a high honor or title like "Prince", just as the Traveler is by many nations. So there's no need on that account to require that Sibling was around for huge amounts of time before Khaenri'ah accepted and trusted them.
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similar architecture can be found in the ruins under Tsurumi which are from the Unified Civilization. So that's not really a good argument.
they got windmills there too? @@TheJH1015
@@davidjohnson8273 "it feels like Sibling arrived in Clothar's life time. " - this part fits well with the theory in this video. Because the Sibling's soul was pulled out of the Abyss during Clothar's lifetime. Probably in the same manner as most of Rhinedottir's "children", but the sibling's will caused them to manifest as a human-like being instead of a half-existing wolf.
I still highly doubt that the abyss twin is third descender.
Firstly, twins definitely arrived after archon war as their meteors were shown flying over Mond, over Venti’s statue. And while time travel isn’t impossible, it’s seems unlikely - there’s no reason to complicate timeline like this AND we haven’t seen time alterations of that kind (sending a sentient being back to the past, physically) so far.
Also, there’s a major correction, not really related to validity of the theory, but about the creation of gnoses - gnoses were made by the primordial one and “the one who came after”, said “one who came after” might very well be NOT second descender/second throne, it might’ve been not descender at all.
Let me just paste this here since I already answered a comment similar to the first half of yours:
"While it's true we see the meteors fly over the city, I personally put little to no stock on that cutscene for a very simple reason: it's conjecture. The first thing the traveler experienced in Teyvat was the cataclysm, which means that they have no memory of their arrival. They might even have already been asleep by then. Besides, we see two meteors getting very close to the ground, so Aether and Lumine would have crashed in close proximity to one another. That's not a likely scenario due to the twin not waking up the traveler; the legend behind the Starfell lake also suggests that it was a single shooting star that made the crater.
Talking about the crater, can you picture the damage inflicted by a meteor big enough to house a person crashing full force into the ground? I doubt the people of Mondstadt would not have felt it if the city was already where it currently is. In that case, I feel like we would have something more solid regarding the creation of the lake than a simple legend.
And then there is the opening cutscene of the beta version. While not cannon it still gives us some insight into what the writers were orginally planning. It tells us that the traveler "awakens to the bitter cold". We know that Mondstadt was covered in ice during the archon war and perhaps before that, but present day Mondsatdt, with the exception of Dragonspine, is much warmer, with no ice in sight. All of this leads me to believe that the twins truly did arrive before the archon war, whether or not the twin is the Third Descender.
The meteors in the cutscene are likely nothing more than the traveler trying to piece everything together after waking up for the second time. They have no idea of how much time has passed, so upon seeing Mondstadt it would be normal for them to assume that the city was already there when they arrived."
You are totally right! I toyed around with the idea that the Third might have willingly sacrificed themselves for a while because of the wording, but that seems unlikely since gnoses are considered objects of misfortune. The problem with calling them "one who came after" is that that's the terminology usually used for descenders: First Who Came, Second Who Came. In which case it seems more likely that the One Who Came After is the Second. But this person might even be an outlander who does not qualify as a descender for all we know, this "title" may simply imply that they came to Teyvat from beyond the sea of stars.
@@BluesLoreCrumbscan we really trust skirk on this?
Also "object of misfortune" is doesn't mean they had to be forcefully killed,
Gods dying causes alot of problems wiethr that god was killed or willing died, their remains become a problem, same goes to the gnosis, if they're the body of the third decender, then even if they were totally on board with dying, their remains will be caused
That could be because the abyss siblings like khaenriahn to much she maybe a khaenriahn clone or the traveller's memories are messed and does not have a sibling which means the abyss twin is a different sex clone to control the traveller . But who knows😅😅😅😅
Now with the new dainsleaf quest it makes even more sense!
The twin wants to see us, misses us, but can’t and they wouldn’t even come to us although they were done fighting Dain and had the time to talk to us in the realm of Caribert.
Thats why the Abyssal Twin wants to fight the destiny bcoz of their twisted fate.
A while ago I read an article about a man that woke up from coma after about 10 years. He said that while he was in coma, he didn’t realize that he was sleeping and that in his dream, he was married and had kids… and after he woke up he didn’t believe it was a dream. So what if the stories about traveler going from world to world wasn’t true at all and it was just a dream? 😭😭
Yeah I image that's how genshin should end
If the Traveler wasn't traveling from world to world, then where did they obtain so much combat experience? So that Canned Knowledge Capsule containing concentrated combat experience of thousands of battles was just a drop in a bucket? Was they actually one of the legendary warriors of history? Or multiple legendary warriors of history, from Imunlaukr to Bloodstained Knight?
If the Traveler is not from outside of Teyvat, why can they wield multiple elements? That is rare even among the gods (and when gods do it, it's because they are a god of some combination concept, like North Wind for Andrius the Wolfinator), while the Traveler already has 5 elements, and is likely to soon get the remaining 2.
And why would people call him a Descender if he isn't from outside of Teyvat?
Too many inconsistences for such a theory, I'd say.
I'm more inclined to think that Perinheri is about Arlecchino. Far more links are to her than any one else.
Absolutely! I don't think Perinheri has anything to do with the Third Descender, regardless of who they might be. It's just a really useful tale to give us something of a timeframe. I wouldn't be surprised if Perinheri was to Arlecchino what the cat fairytale is to Scaramouche, though.
You may be into something, iirc in the opening cutscene in the beta you awaken in a cave to see the corpse of your sibling instead of a beach with paimon
Yeah, but in the final game it’s changed so I don’t think it’s canon so he might’ve changed it so maybe your half right maybe that you do kill lumine in natlan to the point where she’s unredeemable and Fatui might have come across her corpse and used as an energy resource top power up the machine after gathering all the gnosis that harbingers gathered to open up a a portal to Celestial or the heavenly principles home world to gather their wishes to dominate teyvat for greedy and sinisters reasons but unfortunately turning off the machine would have dangerous consequences because this happens czcams.com/video/zTmTmSS9Pr8/video.htmlsi=MWSvN-gRwWImv2nD
Abyss princess lumine had become the alpha abyss
A large snake like creature that is twice the size of beisht and cause havoc across sheznaya and have all the gnosis have gathered and abyss order are in full force and brought a massive army to teyvat and alpha abyss is powering the wormhole to bring in something is none other than herrscher of the end from ggz and brings in a massive warship to help abyss order restoration of khaneri'ah.
Back in sheznaya dansleif found video in Fatui vault and that says this czcams.com/video/danha_qdwNE/video.htmlsi=hJfgGswGP7C6g7e2
At the same time, the wormhole that is, the alpha abyss is powering up is that there’s summoning the herrscher of the end from GGZ timeline because you gotta remember what Lumine said something about engolfing, the thrones and her war with Destiny will See no end it is most likely overthrowing the archons and destroying all of Teyvat hence the alpha abyss form and summoning the herrscher of the end
i still think the sibling is alive and actually the twin and is an outsider but only the mc is the descender
She can't be the 3rd Descender, because she was never a Descender, only Aether is.
As far as I see, the timeline goes like this: the twins get summoned by Khaenri'ah, spend some time there, and then either Aether refused to help them overthrow Celestia so they left, or they tried to solve things peacefully but instead got attacked by the Sustainer who imprisoned them (most likely in Celestia). Not long after this the Cataclysm happened and somehow Lumine got freed only to find Khaenri'ah destroyed, then something happened to her and she joined the Abyss Order. Then 500 years later Aether gets freed and starts roaming the beaches of Tyevat, fishing for Paimons.
Also, clearly the twins don't age at a normal rate, they aren't humans. And I'm pretty sure that Lumine got the "title" of Princess of Khaenri'ah after the Cataclism, when there was no one left to lead the remnant Khaenri'ahns.
I just feel like even if the abyss twin isn't already dead, then they will find a way to kill them off.
Just think about it, would the story really end in a way that everything gets resolved, they are happy and stay or go to another world?
This is a GREAT theory, and one of my favorites. It explains a lot of things - WHY the game's narrative introduced the concept of puppets in the first place and told us Ei learned it from _Khaenri'ah_ of all places; what Celestia and the Archons could have participated in/discovered that caused a rift between the Cryo Archon and the others; why the keepers of the gnoses are willing to give up the thing coincidentally timing with their meeting of the Traveler (guilt perhaps, or the unexpected knowledge that the Third descender had living family?)
Great point about the archons! Now that you mention it, Zhongli being contract bound to not talk about the sibling may be due to more than them simply being in Khaenri'ah during the cataclysm.
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!! ^^
ty for this video! this is what I've been thinking too.
I had the EXACT SAME THEORY with the same arguements and everything! I'm happy someone else made a video that put everything together so nicely :)
I need to remind you that we *don't know* that the Second Descender helped the First.
The text that makes everybody think this is the following line: "To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together."
In the original Chinese text, the phrase "one who came after" is "another latecomer."
We have absolutely zero confirmation that this latecomer is another Descender. And it would be really weird for the very being that Usurper warred with to simply be remarked upon as "another latecomer" would it not?
And that's without getting into the whole word choice of a vague "one" without necessarily meaning the *NEXT* one. I personally think either a non-Descender outlander helped the First Descender accomplish this, or the Third Descender gave themself up in sacrifice.
I still believe that either Deshret was the Third Descender... or Dainslef.
In Deshret's case, think about it - why he was he simply OFFERED a Gnosis? No warring required? Perhaps fragments of his very being were used to make them! But... he decided to go down the path of forbidden knowledge instead, for whatever reason.
In Dainslef's case, the memory loss makes me wonder if fragments of his very being are missing entirely - and we do see that he seems to wield an unknown power that is NOT one of the seven elements we know.
Deshret the idiot that he is went down that path cuz he killed nabu malitaka his lover and in doing so realizing that she planned this due to him not listening to her warnings of what forbiddin knowledge would do she gave up knwojg he wouldnt quit till he got what he wanted and even proposed to her so she helped him achieve this and in turn for going so far she took herself away from him as a result not cuz she was cursed for loving mortals that reason was why she got casted aside from heaven aka celetia where the 3 moon sisters resided
while your point about the vagueness of the text is correct, it could also be that Nibelung was counted as the Second when he launched his counterattack on the Usurper(P.O.) that caused Enkanomiya to fall down, and since he was killed couldn't help with making the Gnoses. The Third could just have given up their life and body to help the Primordial One.
- Deshret: Mostly because he was already the most powerful god in Sumeru and was leading a big civilization anyway, AND he was friends with the other major deities (Nabu Malikata and Rukkha) so there wasn't any way war would break out back then. In other words, they wanted to speed up the process for the Dendro Gnosis.
- Dainsleif: his unknown power is most likely some sort of Abyss-related power that stems from his corruption. Since he IS an actual biological Khaenri'ahn (which we can tell from his pupils) I don't think it's likely he could be a Descender.
@@TheJH1015 - We also know that Deshret mastered all of the elements. Something no other god has been said to do.
Additionally, at SOME point during his reign, he built "seven pillars of light" to share his power with the people. That sounds rather suspiciously familiar.
I firmly believe that people who latch onto the idea that Nibelung became a Descender is just copium. I think he *FOUND* a Descender and came back, much as Khaen'riah tried to do with our Traveler twins.
I also firmly believe that all pure-blooded Khaen'riahns are humans from other worlds, not Teyvat natives.
You gotta remember back in chapter 1 act 4 she said this czcams.com/video/xcIBDhZkVQQ/video.html so I think this theory is this disproven.
But on the other side of the fence my guess is that abyss order are aware of the Fatui actions they might need it to open a wormhole to the home of heavenly principals but this might also get attention to abyss order lead by the abyss princess bc after aether almost kills lumine shes badly wonded but still alive we dont here from her for awhile until the time we to shenaya this happens czcams.com/video/zTmTmSS9Pr8/video.htmlsi=s8eGgNyqdTLKVWIY
Abyss princess had become the alpha abyss
A large snake like creature that is twice the size of beisht and cause havoc across sheznaya and have all the gnosis have gathered and abyss order are in full force and brought a massive army to teyvat and alpha abyss is powering the wormhole to bring in something is none other than herrscher of the end from ggz and brings in a massive warship to help abyss order restoration of khaneri'ah.
Back in sheznaya dansleif found video in Fatui vault and that says this czcams.com/video/danha_qdwNE/video.htmlsi=hJfgGswGP7C6g7e2
Our sibling can't be the 3rd descender who died and their remains made the gnosise. in the game's intro cut seen we see the siblings passing by venties statue . so before our sibling fought the unknown god who you assume killed them, archons already existed meaning 3rd defender was already dead in order to create the gnosis. therefore our sibling is definitely not the 3rd descender
I had this thought yesterday while sleeping 😂, truly great minds think alike 🗣🗣🗣
What if the Travelers remember things wrong because they were an object, like a Lyra from the recent world story, what is Paimon is a pearl xc, well basically what if they remember these other worlds because they are something that records all these worlds, but now they are people.
By the way that reminds me of smth, the side quest said that humans can't become gods, yet humans are given visions to ascend to god hood, kind of weird no, could be a lie?
Even beings that do not belongs to tyvat can be recorded as narwhal was recorded in irmansul as well way before narwhal even comes to tyvat
Albedo & Lumine on the thumbnail? Count me in!
I find this theory very interesting, especially for the part where you mention that the goddess of time could be involved, since it reminds me a lot of the phrase that the evil twin says at the end of the quest of We Will Be Reunited. where it says that they have always had all the time.
As well as the fact that the traveler himself, after Sumeru's AQ and Nahida's words, thinks that perhaps there is something wrong with his memories.
Idea for a colab you and "mynamefornow" he also does super interesting theories on genshin lore
I'm hoping that in the future albedo will get relevant in some important part of the story
I know the event with the Arataki gang just started a few days ago, after this video landed so this information was not known. In a dialogue with one of the npcs in Inazuma ( the girl at the general store), when you are requested to sing the intro song that we all know since is when we enter game, the npc mentions that she heard this 20-30 years ago from a boy/girl depending on the MC you are using. This leads me to believe that the sibling finished the journey not that long before us, but I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED CANON since is presented in a temporary even if previous events had canon information.
I use the male traveler and she say "boy" not a "girl"
"the twin is dead" mfs when 4.7 comes out:
If it is truth, I imagine MC is going to make some celestian bloodbath upon finding out.. and Apep with Neuv gonna help :D
And while I don't want to see my Aether in pain again, I'd very much like that kind of plot twist, yeah. I wonder if the Loom of Fate has something to do with our MC Traveler or creating the perfect body for abyssal twin, if they have inperfect one.
Keep in mind the cbt1 intro says something about your sibling being chained and brutality impaled
@@kevingame3198 well, celestia already have a lot to answer for, why not add some to the list of reasons for a righteous massacre 😹
A theory I had was like Ruu from the inazuma major world quest because he I S sentiant, but still dead, because of the lay-lines
Is it just me or does the impaled Twin in the original opening cutscene resemble the sinner crystal like? quite a lot?
I look at the video and yeah it almost resembles sinner
Given that the Sinner talked to the abyss twin after the cataclysm it's probably impossible for them to be the same person, but the twin could very well have suffered the same fate as the Sinner and even have been trapped in a crystal themselves at some point.
@@BluesLoreCrumbs Ohhh I kind of forgot about that, makes sense. I'm so excited to find out what happend to them, and in the meantime, to hear lots of theories about it. Great video btw, as always! ♥
I've thought this was the case ever since we learned of the Third Descender.
What if the other twin is actually born from Filth like Hanachirusato. Who inherited the memory of the other twin. This new twin born from the filth of the abyss becomes the princess/prince of the abyss. Since Hanachirusato was able to inherit the memories of Kistune Saiguu because the “Dark Will” agreed to her request. What if the “Dark Will” that devoured the Kistune Saiguu is actually the sinner whose voice we heard in Caribert. The other twin’s memories were strong enough to keep their form and also gained the power of the abyss. Since the new twin is born from the filth in Teyvat, Irminsul recognises the new twin as part of this world. Since technically beings born from this “Dark will” is not the same person. This new twin born from the “Dark will” saw it as its master. Believe itself as princess/prince of abyss. Which we can refer to the battle pass story.
So I don't think the Abyss Sibling is dead. I think if anything the Traveler died! Dun dun dun!!! Really though, I do think it's possible the Traveler has already died if they are the 3rd Descender. The thing is death isn't the same thing to everything. First and foremost, people need to remember the Twins, as far as we know, are NOT human. At least as we know them to be. They might be some higher variant of human; such as a High Human. But until its confirmed, they are alien space travelers.
That out of the way. We know death isn't the end for higher beings. Nahida and Guaba (plus the newest adeptus in 4.4) don't just automatically die. They can reincarnate themselves by going into slumber. Nibelung is another figure; along with all the dragons, whom all have a similar capability. Another strong example is Chi, from Quince Village, to this day you can go into that hidden cave by the fatui and see Chi's essence still burning in captivity and he's been "dead" for thousands of years.
So if the Traveler is indeed the Third Descender; the 1st and 2nd essentially killed them and left them for dead. Either Istaroth rescued them and transplanted them into the future. Or over time the Traveler reconstitution their body. This could help explain part of the reason the Abyss Sibling is so decided to fight Fate, along with all the other tragedies they have witnessed. I know I'd be supremely pissed if someone hurt my brother.
Whether Gods, cultivators or other higher beings, death isn't to them what it is to normal humans. As long as their concept endures then they reconstitute with time. And the Twins have always had more than enough of time. It also makes sense if the Traveler is the 3rd Descender because of the Gnosis. They would act as phylacteries(Voldemort's horcruxes) in a sense. As long as they continue to exist, then the conceptional power of the 3rd Descenders does too; thus they are still alive somewhere.
I think that the twin might be from teyvat because the star in which they were born was of teyvat stars. I mean the twins don’t actually look like twins to me, aether is more tan and has a more a darker blonde lumine has a lighter blonde and a lighter skin tone. The only thing that looks alike is their eyes, which it would make sense they’re the same. Their eyes are likely what symbolizes the fact they were born from stars.
So basically my theory is that the abyss twin was born from teyvats stars and the traveler was not. They somehow met on their world traveling journey and then came to teyvat and the abyss twin ended up in kheanriah and became the prince/princess and so on
Have you seen Wei’s theory video on this same topic? It’s crazy that it seems like a silly video but it’ll have you like 😳 Both videos draw similar parallels
I dont exactly believe that the Twin is the third Descender but I do believe that the twin we have met isn't the travelers sibling. As the twin we have met belongs to 'this world' according to Nahida.
The 3rd Descender would have had to been around before the Arcon war as it was the battle for the 7 'thrones' and those that got them were given the gnosis.
The twins landed over mond where Venti's statue was which wouldnt have been possible if they landed before the Arcon war.
So while I still believe the twin is not the travelers sibling. I dont believe there is enough evidence to place them somewhere long before they even got stranded on Tavet.
They literally told us the twin isn’t a descender tho...
If you mean Nahida, we can't entirely trust her with this, since she only learned about Descenders a day before she told us. And she isn't well-equipped to research the topic.
@@kotarouinugami1745 no I’m pretty sure she’s telling us the truth. The twin can’t be a descender, she doesn’t have the will to rival teyvat
the thing is Genshin acts like a domain so timelines are not really a thing in this game.
I'm sorry but it's absolutely illogical for the second who came to work together with phanes, after such a destructive war, no way in hell those two work together, also the line from neuvillette's vision story says "the usurper, and a one who came after create the gnosis together" to me it's more likely that the third descender choose to sacrifice themselves to create the gnosises, hell maybe phanes created a new body for them, then they used the original body of the third descender to create the gnosises
I dont think the audio is bad 😂
This has been my theory since the 3rd descender remains were mentioned 😊
I still feel lumine had come to teyvat way before and that she started a fight with the first and second decender the heavenly principles and asmoday fought her off since she wadged to that if she wins she will rule teyvat so that means that she died by that point when she was defeated by them and impeled but since she was too powerful that they spreaded her body into gnosies and the archons have so that means that aerther came back to find her and save her yet she was long gone and when he seemlingly find her and tried to leave but in doing so he and the fake lumine got sent back so that she the fake lumine was the reason that she cuased all this damage and she was the reason along side sertalogi killed 2 of the moon sisters so lumine was supposed to rule over teyvat but that means that they are no longer a decender cuz she was brought to kanehari ha by them in the are where the two bells called her and some how brought aerther with her and she showed up in kahnreai ah and this means that she is half dead
What if your sibling sacrificed you to make the knois. But you was reborn 500 years later with none of your powers and partially memories. Hints why your not in the tree and they are
if the Traveler was reborn they would automatically be part of Teyvat and thus be recorded by Irminsul. so NO, tha'ts impossible
This might be the actual plot tbh
Waittttt this theory makes so much sense
Could lumine if she is who i think she is isnt a decender but one if the four shades destruction which maybe why all this damage is happining
I think ''REMAIN'' doesn't actually means that they are dead... to me it means they took her/his power (element compatibility)
even if it is a total crack theory, it is still fun to think about.
WTH if this turns out to be true I'll lose my fucking mind
Hell yeah ive been thinking of this, the sibling died, shes or hes the third descender, and khaenri'ahn revived that descender as they thi k she has the capacity to math the heavenly principle and tsaritsa with khaenri'ah is trying to revive the third descender by collecting gnosis
i dont hear u talking at all so im guessing the sound is ment to be coming from the side of my headphones that is broken
Yes they had a problem with recording, if you take your headphones out it’s fine!
If this is all true then that means that the archons ar useing lumines powers lol
But i love this theory😮
Albedo isn’t actually that old tho?
You cooked
oh my god
i mean it is very sus why one of them wake up sooner than the one we chose..
the audio is fucked dude
How does it sound like on your end? I'm watching it right now and the audio seems to be okay! Is there a particular point where it glitches out?
@@BluesLoreCrumbsin my phone it pans alot to the left speaker (not centered)
@@VeroSim Thank you, I wasn't using earbuds so I didn't catch on to this problem while editing. Apparently I recorded the audio in mono without realizing it. Unfortunately I can't really do anything about it without remaking the whole thing. So sorry about it 🙏
Trying to make such extremely stretched out theories makes no sense, you just ignore stated facts.
We have already seen the sibling, and there is no way the Traveler could be fooled by a fake or anything of that nature.