What Happened To The Arkham Series Side Characters? Part 2
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2023
- Hey everyone. Have you ever wondered what happened to the various minor characters of the Arkhamverse? Me too. That's why I'm trying to find out what happened to these guys after their final appearances.
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In the comics, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum were killed by The Arkham knight after being imprisoned. Rat-catcher was also killed by Arkham Knight after a confrontation. Arkham Knight left Rat-catcher's charred corpse for Batman to find.
Comics aren't canon
@@Victor_oh_yeah i know, that's the only explanation given as to how they died. And at least these ones don't break the lore so they could be what actually happened to them.
@@braydenpage1808 that's fair
Comics aren't canon. Rat catcher died to penguin in city, a riddle confirms it.
@@evilzdeadite we know the comics aren't cannon (read the rest of the conversation). I didn't know that, so Rat-catcher's out.
The level of detail in the Arkham Knight game is insane. The fact there's literally Deadshot's name on each of the bullets is something I couldn't even imagine they'd include
Actually it’s the opposite. They just reused the texture of the bullet casings from the AC mission where you track deadshot.
They were not making an Easter egg to deadshot. It’s not a reference. It’s just a recycled texture. Why would an RPG shoot a bullet casing?.. let me repeat that for you, A CASING! It’s not an actual bullet, it’s the spent shell that gets ejected from a gun when a bullet is fired. Deadshot dropped some of these in AC and that is the exact same model used in knight. They just didn’t expect anyone to stop time and inspect the RPG
@@burner-pp7bsThat's a lie, desdhsot have a gun store in Knight; That's why there's deadshot in the casings
For the ratcatcher, I think it is implied that he is dead. In Arkham city, it is mentioned that he was captured by pinguin and take into the iceberg lounge and never seen again. He was possibly fed to Tiny the shark. 🦈
In the Arkham Knight Genesis comics he is shown alive, but with a missing eye and arm, due to Penguin’s attempt to murder him. He tried to kill Hush but ended up being eletrocuted by the Arkham Knight, which killed him.
But the Arkham Genesis comics are not confirmed to be canon
@@victormoraes5080 oh that’s right, I forgot about the comics showing that. Thanks for the info !
Yeah tbh I don’t know either if the comic would be considered canon.
@@victormoraes5080 They are Canon.
@@amaimonmoore4498 I Only Go By The Games
I’m glad you mentioned Prometheus cause I wish he was used in the Arkham series cause he’d make a cool main villain sense he’s a polar opposite of Batman
He was planned for knight but was dropped for whatever reason
@@Dctctx yeah I know but damn that was a missed opportunity for Arkham knight but I feel like the game should've hade more villains in it sense if it was going to be the last Batman game they could've went all out with it and utilized all the villains they forgot to use and or use certain ones for the main storyline like imagine Prometheus having hush and scarecrow team up with him and Batman goes through each 3 of them 1 by 1 as he slowly makes his way to find out about Prometheus (I'm just fan fictioning at this point) but you get what I mean right??
@@lppstudios3006 yeah, it would’ve been amazing to have a 1v1 fight. Kinda like deathstroke in origins
@@Dctctx HELL YEAH. That'd be awesome as an idea and having it Batman has to adapt to Prometheus like Mr freeze so it's kinda like a mix mash between Mr freeze and death stroke and maybe have it that Prometheus can shut off detective mode to make it more tense so he becomes the hunter and Batman resorts to being prey which would end with them both being unmasked I guess so the segment with Batman being revealed as Bruce Wayne, maybe have it be that Prometheus breaks the cowl off batman's mask as Batman does a finishing blow to Prometheus before taking him to gcpd and with the other villains (side missions) maybe have the bat family more involved in it and have some side missions with Batman and said other bat family member
@@lppstudios3006 imagine we got a damaged version of the v8.03 where it’s missing pieces of armor and his cowl or cracked or something. Would’ve been sick
Honestly to fix the whole Deadshot switch up issue they could have just said that Deadshot is like an mantle or title and the OG Deadshot died so his brother the new Deadshot took his place. They could explain that they’re brothers by choice because they were so close something akin to the relationship between Tangerine and Lemon from Bullet Train
I mean they can’t be brother they’re different races
@@jakobyhubbard5530 I literally gave an example at the end
brothers from another mother
Didn’t get it
i mean if og deadshot retired, then new deadshot could be using his ammo and permission to take up his name to keep the illusion that deadshot is still around, which would stop anyone from hunting down og deadshot.
Just a theory tho
Wish that we could’ve gotten to see Scarface come to life by the ventriloquist in Asylum. That’s would’ve been terrifying
I know. Such an underrated villain
Zsasz was actually planned to appear as a side mission in Arkham Knight. There's even unused audio files but he was cut for unknown reasons.
They were too busy doing silly riddler races to come up with proper side missions or a good story.
@@thefonzkiss The side missions in Arkham knight actually are the best in the series and it’s narrative is actually good, or at the very least, less of a convoluted mess Arkham city’s story was. Even Arkham knight’s weakest side mission like friend in need is still better than missions like remote hideaway and hot and cold from Arkham city (especially hot and cold, you literally just pick a gadget that you’ll never end up using). Most of Arkham city’s side mission had very minimal gameplay to begin with and are usually dispatched of in the blink of an eye (i.e the watcher of the wings, fragile alliance, ar training, acts of violence, mad hatter). The rest is just really boring.
@@thefonzkiss why even at riddler back he’s not even that dangerous I woulda loved if he just died after the events of Arkham city n scarecrow shouda bin a side mission deathstroke and Arkham knight shouda bin the main villains ur telling me Arkham knight would rather work with scarecrow then Arkham knight and prothmethues woulda bin awesome and it was feeling like they wanted to get the Arkham trilogy over with
@@MistahJ1940Arkham city = needed better side missions
Arkham knight = needed better boss fights
@@alordofchaos Hot take, Deathstroke is boring
I am certain the character switch for Deadshot is because Will Smith played him in Suicide Squad movie. In the comics Deadshot looked similar to what he did in Arkham City.
Prometheus was actually supposed to make an appearance in Arkham Knight's Season of Infamy DLC but he was scrapped and replaced with Mad Hatter.
I think people overthink the Deadshot shells appearing in Arkham Knight. I think it’s as simple as the devs reusing assets for the tank shells since most people won’t even notice. Plus it’s a spent casing without a bullet, which obviously shouldn’t be what comes out of the business end of a gun.
It's always been so sad about Rat Cather, he was mentioned in 3 games, but haven't appeared in any of them.
It feels so wrong that they are making failures like Suicide squad or Gotham knights instead of ending the Batman Arkham series as they wanted to do
They did end it how they want to though, Arkham knight is the end. Also, rocksteady didn't make Gotham knights
@@evilzdeadite I know, but they said recently that they had concepts and early development for fifth part of the Arkham story. Also Gotham Knights were made by the same people that made Arkham origins
@@tt1336 Gotham Knights was made by a different development team. It was made by a team of new people and people that worked on Arkham Origins and the DLC for Arkham Knight.
Suicide squad hasnt even came out yet dude
@@Mister_RandomGuychannel You don't have to be a genius to say that it is going to be Gotham knights 2 or probably worse
It is also possible that some of those villains were killed during Protocol 10
The ones that was just reference probably
Loving this series so far. Well-made, informative, and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
While I too don't believe Deadshot was initially meant to be who he is in the new Suicide Squad game, I do believe it still works. In the Comics, Floyd Lawtons backstory was actually stolen from a former cellmate of his: Will Evans, who would later get rid of Deadshot and take his moniker of Deadshot in return. Deadshot ends up killing Will tho. In the Arkhamverse it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say the same thing happened, only Deadshot claimed Will Evans name too (this time Will being Lawton) out of shame. And, with the original Deadshot now either being dead or retired, the REAL Lawton can then step up and claim the title that his name has been paraded as being.
Honestly having changes like that kinda feels like it affects the character pretty severely. When deadshot’s whole deal is being the world’s best marksman having another character who is good enough to impersonate him for years makes you question why he’s even special in the first place
This is awesome work! Keep it up ! Much love from the Arkham community ❤️❤️
fun fact: zsasz was planed to be in a side mission in knight but was replaced by professor pyg
The Deadshot thing is so dumb. So is Harley's design in Justice Leauge
I think it was mentioned that the original ventriloquist was killed in a turf war, before Peyton Reilly coming to the stand
My theory for deadshot is that the new version of deadshot magically came from another timeline/universe. He doesn’t know how to get back to his home, so he killed the Arkham version Floyd and took his spot.
Makes more sense than the imposter explanation.
@@CharacterHistory sounds far fetch but that’s canon in my head lmao
My theory about the new deadshot is that it simply looked bad a game where there are no protagonists of color, which is absurd because there are more characters of color that are cool, there was no need to change color to deadshot just for you know 2023 woke stuff.
@@DA-wg5cz Politics has absoloutely rotted your mind. They made deadshot black in the game because he was black in the 2016 movie. General audiences recognize the Will Smith version of the character so they made the game Deadshot look like him to try and connect with the largest amount of people possible.
@@vnom84 It was definitely for diversity purposes. But it's not a big deal
The tokenized Deadshot excuse is so stupid and makes no sense. Dude is Floyd Lawton either way.
In the Suicide Squad game, it's revealed that the Deadshot in the Arkham games WAS the real Deadshot, but was from a different earth.
Killer video, Kyle!🤘🏼
Calenderman is seen at the ending of Arkham Knight, watching the Wayne Manor explodes.
Would love to see some Metal Gear videos from you! (judging by the music lol)
Cool video bro!
These are really cool!
I love the old metal gear track in the background
Calendar man was in front of Wayne Manner when Batman’s identity was revealed, you can see him around Vicky Vale when Batman arrives to his house
As for grundy I like to imagine he went to coast city and became green lanterns problem
If you do a part 3 some recommendations are Man-Bat, Azrael, Riddler, Two-face, Robin, Nightwing, Red Hood, Commissioner Gordon
I believe Gordon is the mayor of Gotham
Robin and nightwing continue the mantle and azrael(not sure which fate is canon) and riddler and two face went to Arkham and red hood went to kill criminals and villains
Riddler was in all games, same with Gordon so they can't be in one.
@@TrumpsLawyerr he’s talking about what happened after Arkham knight
VICTOR ZSASZ: Shame he wasn't a villain in Arkham Knight, he was originally going to appear and had a side mission planned but was cut, he probably would've continued his killing spree.
SOLOMON GRUNDY: Probably buried deep somewhere.
DEADSHOT: Deadshot's a villain i think could've been in Arkham Knight, what if he was considering retiring but he had a few loose ends he had to get rid off: (Amanda Waller, Captain Boomerang, his Father, Jack Ryder and Batman), i also like the idea of him supplying the Militia Ammunition, I think he probably retired from being The World's Deadliest Assassin, went off with his daughter Zoe and be a good father to her, I also think it would be cool if Zoe were to take The Mantle of Deadshot in Batman Beyond.
HUMPTY DUMPTY: a villain i would've liked to have seen in The Arkham Games, my guess he was probably in Arkham City and was killed During Protocol 10.
RATCATCHER; a villain that should have been in The Arkham Games, he would be creepy and interesting to fight; In Arkham city, it is mentioned that he was stealing stuff from Penguin through his Rats he was eventually captured by pinguin and take into the iceberg lounge and never seen again. He was possibly fed to Tiny the shark. BUT In the Arkham Knight Genesis comics he is shown alive, but with a missing eye and arm, due to Penguin’s attempt to murder him. He tried to kill Hush but ended up being electrocuted by the Arkham Knight, which killed him. Arkham Knight left Ratcatcher's charred corpse for Batman to find.
THE TWEEDS: Tweedledee and Tweedledum were killed by The Arkham knight after being imprisoned at GCPD in the Arkham Knight Prequel Comics. they would've been cool to have seen in Mad Hatter's Side Missions in the Arkham Games as his Henchmen
PROMETHEUS: the fact WE NEARLY got Prometheus in The Arkham Knight Season of Infamy DLC but THEN to cut him out was an absolute Shame, a lot of Arkhamverse Fans will never forgive Rocksteady for that Prometheus would have been a stand-out Boss as you are basically fighting yourself and it would have been a combination of Mr. Freeze's Arkham City Boss Fight and Deathstroke's Arkham Origins Boss Fight, he also was The Main Antagonist in Arrow Season 5 (although it was a new version and incarnation of Prometheus), he's probably still active killing Police Officers
MAXIE ZEUS: he probably either died during Protocol 10 or he's MIA
GREAT WHITE SHARK: he survived Protocol 10 and The Arkham Knight tried to Assassinate him via bombing his hideout in the Flooded Amusement Mile but he was long gone from Gotham, he's Alive but probably laying low or he could be in Prison, a villain that should have been in The Arkham Games
VENTRILOQUIST: Arnold Wesker's Ventriloquist was revealed to have avoided been sent into Arkham City and he robbed a bank and took hostages (similar to 1975's Dog Day Afternoon Film) but it probably didn't end well for Wesker and he was gunned down by Commissioner Gordon and GCPD via Suicide by Cop, he would be well replaced by Peyton Riley's Ventriloquist, another villain who's a big missing one and a top tier missing arkham villain, along with Prometheus.
HARVEY BULLOCK: still a Detective in Gotham, i like to assume after James Gordon quit being GCPD's Commissioner and was going to run for Mayor, Bullock either became a private investigator, continues to work at GCPD and is Aaron Cash's Number two or he retired from The Force
CALENDAR MAN: what if after witnessing Bruce Wayne/Batman's ''Death'' Calendar Man decided to stop being a dangerous serial killer and probably blended into Society, or he could be in Prison
SWAT LEADER HOWARD BRANDEN: after being fired from GCPD by Commissioner Gordon, he either went to work for Black Mask or Black Mask sent his goons to kill Branden
Yes it’s a shame Prometheus and the other villains you listed weren’t used cause they would’ve all made a cool inclusion in the Arkham verse
It was never revealed what happened to the original scarface, but he most likely ended up in peyton riley's possession.
And apparently we were basically right where his hideout was located in the game when at Panessa Studios, the whole time, but because it wasn’t part of the game or even a side mission we never knew but it’s still accessible to go there as well. The next time I personally play the game, ima go there
woooooo a part 2 :]
If i remember correctly, Ratcatcher was killed by Penguin
My best guess is that the original dead shot retired well he new one took up the mantle it really simplifies it to me
The Deadshot on the shells is just because it’s a reused asset.
Do a part 3 please
I actually just got done watching a video on what happened to Victor Z and apparently he has a separate side mission in the game where you actually apprehend him including files that are still in the game but we’re never cut. The reason why we don’t get to apprehend him or even see him in the game is because They decided to take him out the game because of the fact that the pyg mission of capturing him is way too similar. They wanted to have a new villain but I’ve never played any of the DLC’s for Arkham Knight, but I’m hoping to very soon be able to buy them and go back and replay the whole game or just play the side missions cause I beat the regular game like five times and then go back to the regular game and play them all again.
Can u do Manbat? (Although it may be hard as ne wasn't addressed much and is just a little side charcter)
Let's get this guy to 1 mill subs
Good theories.
Given how many things are possible in the arkhamverse, maybe something altered deadshots appearance
Rat-catcher was killed by Penguin in Arkham city
I thought Grundy died in Arkham City, I thought his heart was keeping him alive?
In my opinion Suicide kill the justice league is not part the Arkham verse.
The ratcatcher cant be dead since he is probably the main antagonist in the. New arkham shadows
My theory for Deadshot being race swapped is that he's the successor to Floyd Lawton after the original retired as we can see in the Arkham Genesis comic book
I would say about Deadshot that the one in suicide squad is his successor. Imagine this:
Deadshot makes a killing supplying the militia with ammunition and decides to retire. Then he finds a young man with similar talent and trains him. The old Deadshot retires and the new one takes his place.
Now, they should've used that story instead of the imposter BS.
now part 3?
Kinda disappointed with what they did with Arkham city/origins deadshot
Oh boy yeah!
Would be dope to see as many ties to Arkham knight as possible fr. Especially with the history of the suicide squad the writers could rlly have a field day. And knowing how much rocksteady loves their Easter eggs oml I can’t wair
I really wanted Victor to return in knight
He was suppose to get a side villain should’ve kept him too and deadshot
Victor zsasz was meant to have a quest but it was cut I wish they would have cut the riddle that was associated with him and the security footage from The Clocktower
As for bane there is a container that has in it the gear that injects venom into him
I think it would be cool if the Deadshot in SSKTJL is actually the impostor. Probably won’t end up that way, but it would a decent way to explain it imo
With all of the missing I'll be doing it definitely wouldn't be fair to call him the real Deadshot lol
They should've used Prometheus, killermoth, warren white, the ventriloquist and made more red hood content for Arkham knight smh.
Zsasz was actually supposed to have a mission in knight, and they scrapped it
Rat Catcher is confirmed to have died in Arkham city by Penguin.
Can you do part 3
about grundy there was some story in arkham knight about grundy waking up in the morgue
what music do you use?
I don't count new upcoming Suicide Squad because it was developed not by the same Rocksteady developers, who worked on Arkham series. Cause most of them left the studio, and no longer there. Thus, Suicide Squad kill the justice league does not count, for me at least, as new Arkham game.
What do you think happened to killer moth he’s only referenced in asylum, what do you think happened to him?
If you take the SS prequel comic as canon (I know it’s a huge leap considering the precedent) then we see Victor is eaten by King Shark.
They had to make deadshot black so they’re probably gonna say that he was an imposter in Arkham
I really wanted deadshot to return in knight
In the comics they retconed that dead shot basically stole the backstory of his sell mate / rival who was also claiming to be the world’s greatest marksman
The riddler, penguin,2face
I got a question for u who was Tha girl that was singing Tha song and shouldn’t Batman just anilize her voice I mean seriously
Wasn’t there an Arkham city entry about ratcatcher being killed?
I really wanted grundy to return in knight
My assumption,tweedlee and dum died in Arkham city along with Maxie Zeus,great white shark,and Humpty Dumpty,ventriloquist got sent to Arkham by nightmare bat,and Prometheus will hopefully be a dlc character for suicide squad
For some ronson I find the grundy's gave or that what I like to call it again I don't find creepy for some ronson?
is the suicide squad game a continuation of the batman arkham games?
It's supposed to be, taking place five years after Arkham knight.
Did anybody notice John Jones on there who is Martian man hunter.
Can someone tell me what happened to all the bad cops I know they were probably fired but why weren’t they all sent to jail I don’t get it
So who actually decided that the comics aren't canon, because a lot of comics don't actually contradict the games
nobody, it's just disinformation and people who say smt isn't canon at first inconsistance they see, without trying to give an explanation of it.
Killer Moth was assassinated by Res Hood along with other DC villains
What about Harley or Jason?
*Sighs* alright fine I’ll go replay the Arkham games on 100% completion
My opinion of why Deadshot is different is rather blunt. Before they even thought about creating a Suicide Squad game. 2016 Suicide Squad feature Will Smith, a black guy, playing Floyd Lawton Deadshot, unless DC and WB were hoping that fans would honestly forget about DeadShot they went ahead and race swap him under the radar, unfortunately for WB/DC Floyd Lawton has been in other forms of content, both in comics and animated films were people still recognized him as the personal version. Thus, instead of WB/DC walking back and risk being called a racist company, boycotts, woke activists simply being a real pain. They didn't do anything and hope for the best.
Rat catcher was killed by the penguin in arkham city because his rats could get controband into the place it interfered with penguins business so he was dragged into the museum with rats following him never to be seen again
I alway thought other villains like maxie zeus and wesker are dead within arkhan serie since we see maxie cell walled up and aaron mention that peyton reliey is the new ventroquist which mean wesker is dead.
The others like ratcatcher, dumpty and prometheus are dead by red hood since he been killing lesser know villian like moth
I really want to bane in a arkham sequel
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Thanks for telling me. Kind of cool that these videos are doing well enough for people to steal them though.
Originally Batman was able to fight Zsasz
What about Catwoman
Ok
Lol calendar man
she i like how u thing when its comes to Solomon Grundy but what is it wasn't scarecrow that's waiting for him but the penguin cuz in city he found him first so what is has looking for him back as property
Given that Deadshot in the Arkham games is kind of, garbage I prefer to follow along with the 'Deadshot Imposter' line of thinking
Speaking on Deadshot I don’t mind the race in SSKTJL change in general but it’s stupid af. They need to base the game off of Arkham, not the stupid SS movie.
Deadshot did die. Suicide Squad is made by Rocksteady and Sefton Hill
I think Red Hood killed Zsasz. A completely unremorseful maniac that's only objective in life is to kill.
Bro i think someone is stealing ur content on Tiktok💀
Id rather belive that deadshot wanted to keep his daughter safe so he gave the deadshot mantle to i guess floyd lawton 2.0 and the arkham animated movie is real.
Well, in Assault on Arkham, Amanda Waller is fat and dead. Deadshot got her
Bro these theories 💀