Front Locker vs Rear Locker... Whats better??

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • Front locker or rear locker? What should you buy first? Well today we did a couple of quick tests to see what we preferred.
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Komentáře • 108

  • @livin4x4
    @livin4x4  Před 4 lety +32

    This is by no means scientific 😂 what do you think?

    • @CalvindeVos
      @CalvindeVos Před 4 lety

      Adam Reed getting up that mud hill had a lot to do with momentum...

    • @o0sman0o
      @o0sman0o Před 4 lety

      Great video 😉

    • @MrArchimus
      @MrArchimus Před 4 lety

      G'day Adam, love your vids. I've got a HDJ79 ute, what is the name and brand of locker, and do you rate it?

    • @MeanMāoriM3an
      @MeanMāoriM3an Před 4 lety

      In your first attempt, was your front lockers on? Coz i only saw 1 wheel spining

    • @dolmarf411
      @dolmarf411 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MeanMāoriM3an the 80 not ,the 70 was.

  • @sknyjeens927
    @sknyjeens927 Před 4 lety +8

    sliders/scrub bars look really good finish the bar work nicely

  • @arefeshghi
    @arefeshghi Před 2 lety +3

    I think it was better if you did the front locker test with the same car. But I also agree that front locker is much more useful than rear locker for climbing rock steps. With the rear locker you'll be only be pushed side to side, especially in muddy conditions.

  • @willreed6231
    @willreed6231 Před 4 lety +11

    Few thoughts here,
    With the front locker engaged you still
    Have the lsd in the back helping it along. With a rear locker you only have an open in the front.
    But I always kinda thought whilst climbing you have all the weight at the rear so why not have that locked up? And while going down a sketchy hill you can lock the rear Diff and it’ll keep the rear end striaght and stop it sliding around under compression...In saying all that I’ve got a auto locker from and lsd rear combo in me gu and it’s mint lol

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 4 lety +3

      You forget that a Toyota doesn't have a working rear LSD. We Patrol owners are accustomed to being able to go most places with just a front autolocker and the working LSD. Going down sketchy hills in the Patrol it's best to use the handbrake for rotation control of all 4 wheels. I sometimes wonder if a rear locker would be worth the cost for my Patrol, but never needed one. Putting the cost towards portals would be better :)

    • @shanevonharten3100
      @shanevonharten3100 Před 4 lety

      What toyota doesn't have lsd ?
      Im a hilux guy (06) and for the 20 years to it they're lsd

    • @willreed6231
      @willreed6231 Před 4 lety

      They have one but there terrible 😒

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 4 lety

      @@shanevonharten3100 They leave the factory with what Toyota describes as an LSD, but by the time you have driven around the block it no longer works.

    • @Agent.K.
      @Agent.K. Před 4 lety

      Ein Felder
      A-Trac

  • @streetstomper
    @streetstomper Před 3 lety +1

    What a great demo, I just picked up a new Beast that has front and rear lockers, I can't wait to get out there and make a video of it just a tad bit much snow on the ground right now...fingers crossed for the weekend forecast 🤞

  • @adoniskatrivessis1143
    @adoniskatrivessis1143 Před 4 lety +3

    Here’s a good tip if u have an lsd rear diff get a front locker the lsd kind of acts like a locker but if u have an ifs vehicle I recommend getting a front locker because your not likely to loft your front wheels then u are to loft your rear wheels so front locker first in any car I think personally

  • @superhacker101
    @superhacker101 Před 4 lety +5

    My dedicated 4b has got a cigweld locker, cheap not that easy to install but strong as and no wires or springs! hahaha

  • @Gowieee
    @Gowieee Před 2 lety +1

    Front locker with rear LSD is the preference. Remember with a rear locker you have an open diff prior to locking so you’ll constantly be locking the rear.

  • @stephendimech7174
    @stephendimech7174 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for that’s guys coz I just got twin lockers installed in my patrol and I’m waiting for the time to go and try them 👍😎

  • @jailbreakoverlander
    @jailbreakoverlander Před 4 lety +5

    Triple locked yet I almost never use them

  • @Mosesk1988
    @Mosesk1988 Před 4 lety +3

    In a patrol reshimed lsd and a front e locker is the go 👌

  • @MrGoMario
    @MrGoMario Před 4 lety

    Please use the correct description! On the rear both of you have manual full lockers but in front you have a special kind of locker! It is non other than the mighty Detroit (or Aussie) locker! Unlocked when it needs to be unlocked and locked at all the other times!

  • @craki06
    @craki06 Před 4 lety

    I think the first test you did on the flat ground with the opposing holes the lockers are equally as effective, up sand and maybe mud hills where you need constant power and momentum I think a rear will help you more because that’s where more weight will be and I think slower or shorter obstacles a front can help you more because it can then help pull the vehicle over the obstacle. But that all depends on the car and especially the wheel base imo

  • @joshualange5989
    @joshualange5989 Před 4 lety +1

    i love the bar on the troopy

  • @JeepJeep234
    @JeepJeep234 Před 4 lety +1

    This also depends on the vehicles weight distribution.

  • @nicholaswebb94
    @nicholaswebb94 Před 4 lety +5

    Not locker related but Sam's head lights are they any good over the factory one's

    • @samr3218
      @samr3218 Před 4 lety

      Nick Webb no still shit as hahah

  • @jamies8973
    @jamies8973 Před 3 lety

    Good demonstration, thanks.

  • @6footdirtnap
    @6footdirtnap Před 7 měsíci

    I have A limited slip 8.5 for my 85 square body and I'm researching what to do.
    I'm thinking front locker first.

  • @lemetole8869
    @lemetole8869 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the demo..very informative..

  • @waddney4121
    @waddney4121 Před 4 lety +1

    when under power auto lockers tend not to disengage so in something soft your front locker will under steer

  • @rifleman7313
    @rifleman7313 Před 6 měsíci

    How well would a 4.88 Axle Ratio work with 40" tall tires on a relatively high horsepower (500HP+) Truck/Jeep/SUV? Would it be okay? What about acceleration and mpg? Thanks

  • @superhacker101
    @superhacker101 Před 4 lety +2

    Does the auto locker click if say? your hubs are locked in but the transfer is in 2wd, like in a modern IFS ute?

    • @Steel6Strings
      @Steel6Strings Před 4 lety +2

      Yes they will do, so long as the CV shafts are spinning. But they should unlock easier because you don't have driven power forcing the locker to lock up harder.

  • @Tom-mu2nr
    @Tom-mu2nr Před 4 lety +2

    If price didn't matter would you still go with your auto locker or would u have put an elocker in the front

    • @livin4x4
      @livin4x4  Před 4 lety +5

      I would probably go with an e locker if I wasn't worried about money, sometimes having the locker always engaged can be annoying and I would assume its a bit stronger
      But so far a $400 part has gotten me the same places that an e-locker would 🤷‍♂️

  • @twosixfilms1645
    @twosixfilms1645 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video as per usual 👍 How does the auto front locker go in soft sand? Does it push alot and make it understeer when you're on the power or is it smart enough to unlock and drive as if it was standard?

    • @livin4x4
      @livin4x4  Před 4 lety +1

      It locks when it is under load so it would understeer a lot

    • @twosixfilms1645
      @twosixfilms1645 Před 4 lety

      @@livin4x4 yeah I figured

  • @Spennysgarage
    @Spennysgarage Před 4 lety +1

    Do you ever get worried that you will roll the troopy cause they are kinda top heavy? I use to have a 75 series troopy and it felt sketchy off road. What are your thoughts?

    • @chevy5851
      @chevy5851 Před 4 lety +1

      I agree my troopy is pretty batshit scary on angles

  • @surferandy6137
    @surferandy6137 Před 4 lety +2

    Just wondering how the auto lokka works in 4high, is it engaged or only in 4low?

    • @mitchellrobinson9810
      @mitchellrobinson9810 Před 4 lety +1

      Surfer Andy the Auto locker will automatically lock in any gear, the best way to describe it is a very very tight lsd that unlocks when turning or off throttle

    • @T1000.Android
      @T1000.Android Před 4 lety +2

      4 low and 4 high activates the Auto Lokka as both 4wd modes send power to the front wheels.

    • @mitchellrobinson9810
      @mitchellrobinson9810 Před 4 lety

      Tyson Collier unless you have one in the rear on in a full time 4wd car like mine

  • @maximouribe8726
    @maximouribe8726 Před 4 lety

    On the front diff of the troopy what locker do u have? Lokka, air or e-locker? What kind on the rear diff?
    Thanks
    Cheers

  • @paulgriffiths7399
    @paulgriffiths7399 Před 4 lety +3

    What lockers would you recommend Adam/Sam? There's harrop and arb and TJM. TJM seems like the best to go for

    • @livin4x4
      @livin4x4  Před 4 lety +4

      Honestly we don't have enough experience with them all to give you good advice
      Sorry we can't be of much help there
      If it's worth anything, when I put a rear locker in the troopy, going off of other people's advice I'll probably be going with TJM

    • @matthutch5919
      @matthutch5919 Před 4 lety +2

      TJM pro locker is the strongest on the market. Check out what the non sponsored racers & rock crawlers r using most r TJM. I am NOT sponsored by TJM

  • @032254855
    @032254855 Před 4 lety

    had an auto locker in the rear used to be a pain when doing u-turns on the hard top as it would try and lock up if you if you accelerated to much also when ever i changed the diff oil it would allway's have a metallic look to it not sure if it was the auto locker that caused that or my diff was on it's way out

    • @dolmarf411
      @dolmarf411 Před 4 lety

      auto lockers like a detroit locker only put in a 70 series where you can disengage the 4x4.

  • @robertobassetto967
    @robertobassetto967 Před 4 lety

    Hi guys! Nice video... I am in the process of doing some upgrades to my 78 series troopy. What brand auto locker is installed in the troopy and have the sway bars been removed on this video? Cheers!

  • @bryanmcentush4788
    @bryanmcentush4788 Před 3 lety

    Thank you,

  • @MR-dv6ms
    @MR-dv6ms Před 4 lety

    awesome vid guys well done

  • @scudsy2023
    @scudsy2023 Před 4 lety +1

    did you lose any fuel mileage with the front lokka adam??

  • @linconmcallister2515
    @linconmcallister2515 Před 4 lety

    Hey mate, just wondering if I could have some help on what 4x4 I should get. And also id love to do a 4x4 trip with you and the boys. Im based south Queensland and would love a trip away with you bunch. Cheers

    • @cabline1193
      @cabline1193 Před 4 lety +1

      Don't know if you already got one but if your looking to do serious shit like them solid axles are usually the way to go, so like landcruiser's, patrols and the older hiluxs are all pretty good

  • @kusheen...
    @kusheen... Před 4 lety

    What kind of front locker did adam have? i want to put one in my N80 lux.

  • @michaeljohnson2499
    @michaeljohnson2499 Před 4 lety

    What's a good locker brand and style for jeep yj

  • @cyclemoto8744
    @cyclemoto8744 Před 4 lety

    nice tutorial fellas

  • @jasset88
    @jasset88 Před 2 lety

    Me turning with a front locker.
    My locker: the fuck you are

  • @jameshenderson9830
    @jameshenderson9830 Před 6 měsíci

    I've got front but no rear lockers. I gotta take care or that

  • @plucka12345
    @plucka12345 Před 4 lety

    What front locka is in the Troopy

  • @ashleychristensen4290
    @ashleychristensen4290 Před 4 lety

    Cool video Lads

  • @habanero8192
    @habanero8192 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the informative video! ;-)

  • @lukemonson320
    @lukemonson320 Před 11 měsíci

    front auto locker rear limited slip😎

  • @aleufufhfhd7413
    @aleufufhfhd7413 Před 4 lety

    You need body lift
    Edit it hits the the guard so yeah

  • @nopressure4967
    @nopressure4967 Před 4 lety

    Hey Adam, how does the auto locker influence the Troopy's gravel road (corrugation) handling and characteristics? I want to get an auto locker, but I'm wondering if this is an issue

    • @livin4x4
      @livin4x4  Před 4 lety +2

      Hey mate, certainly makes it a bit more interesting haha locker comes in and out so your steering will go heavy randomly
      I wouldn't say its the worst thing ever, but it does make driving around in gravel when it's in 4wd a bit different haha I wouldn't get an auto locker if I didn't have a 2wd option

    • @nopressure4967
      @nopressure4967 Před 4 lety

      Thanks for your honesty. Cheers

  • @ganthargaming2141
    @ganthargaming2141 Před 4 lety

    What kind of front locker does Adam have?

  • @o0sman0o
    @o0sman0o Před 4 lety

    Did you ever do a video on Sam’s suspention setup?

    • @samr3218
      @samr3218 Před 4 lety

      Søren Vinter no but it’s just a 2inch lift that’s pretty broken and needs replacing hahah

    • @o0sman0o
      @o0sman0o Před 4 lety

      Sounds just great, haha!
      Would still be Nice if you did some videos of the cars and upgrades 😉

  • @dillydoopsta6090
    @dillydoopsta6090 Před 4 lety

    You should try turning on the road with lockers in!

  • @worthy_escapes
    @worthy_escapes Před 4 lety

    What auto locker are on running mate? 4wd systems Lokka, a Detroit, or something else? I mean, I know they are all pretty similar but it's always good to see other people's experiences

    • @livin4x4
      @livin4x4  Před 4 lety

      Hey mate, the brand I'm using is lokka, don't really know what differences are between the brands haha

  • @strakaestrada4868
    @strakaestrada4868 Před 4 lety

    What kind of locker do you have in the front. :)

  • @767dag
    @767dag Před 3 lety

    Interesting

  • @SkodzGaming
    @SkodzGaming Před 3 lety

    why do I think suspension flex is sexy ?

  • @jackskonieczny2353
    @jackskonieczny2353 Před 4 lety +1

    Departure Angle has left the chat

  • @fergusnorris6694
    @fergusnorris6694 Před 4 lety

    what tyre size was everyone running on this trip

  • @lantern5414
    @lantern5414 Před 3 lety

    Can we turn the car while the front locker is on....?

  • @vaughanthomas3627
    @vaughanthomas3627 Před 4 lety

    Good vid guys, I'm looking at a ARB air locker for my hilux, about NZ $2400 fitted. For one 😫

  • @banger0250
    @banger0250 Před 4 lety

    Wrong line

  • @120pradotwnlockr3
    @120pradotwnlockr3 Před 4 lety

    Front and rear ARB air lockers....... don't be fooled by LSD. It's just a fancy open diff. If you can only afford one go rear. 90% I use rear only other 10 is through narly stuff and twin is best. Saving money on repairs everytime I go 4wding. Best part is showing patrols and other land cruisers how it's done in a prado.

    • @volcanic5187
      @volcanic5187 Před 4 lety

      Hey chief, I have a 120 also, do you think a locker in the front diff will help prevent breaking cv's, axles etc

    • @120pradotwnlockr3
      @120pradotwnlockr3 Před 4 lety

      @@volcanic5187 mate 100% it's the best investment I've made for off-road. Don't just stop at cv's. Less wear and tear on everything. Stuff I would've had to full send to make it, I now crawl over it. I did the Billy goat ridge track a few months back......with ease, even the two new tracks.

    • @120pradotwnlockr3
      @120pradotwnlockr3 Před 4 lety

      @@volcanic5187 also to go with that was underbody protection is a must, I went ARB. First trip out saved me a Brocken sump. 2inch lift is good as well and take side steps off, they just get smashed. All does cost alot but worth it.

    • @volcanic5187
      @volcanic5187 Před 4 lety

      @@120pradotwnlockr3 Yeah sweet got most of that stuff just trying to figure which locker to go with first, 4wd action done a vid recently and reckon for an IFS go with a front locker first, my lsd seems to work ok in the rear even at 220,000 klm but not 100% positive it works well.

    • @120pradotwnlockr3
      @120pradotwnlockr3 Před 4 lety

      @@volcanic5187look I use my rear most of the time and engage front when needed due to its hard to steer when front are locked. I got both at same time so I can only judge by what I use more. My opinion will be rear first. Also when doing hill climbs most of the weight is on the rear, so I wouldn't won't any slip even if it's limited. Hope it helps ask away mate happy to help.