Tape Echo: Echo Fix EF-X2 meets Vintage Roland RE-201… And Others - That Pedal Show

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  • In this episode Dan and I take a listen to the new-for-2019 Echo Fix EF-X2.
    It’s a modern take on Roland’s seminal RE-201 Space Echo, that uses real tape for the echo/delay effects. We also include some common modern delay pedals, both tape simulation and analog delays, to get an idea of how things compare. What do we think?
    Enjoy the episode!
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    Pedals & stuff in this episode…
    • TheGigRig Three2One
    www.thegigrig.com/three2one
    • TC Electronic PolyTune 2 Mini
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2jKaukT
    USA: imp.i114863.net/EDLje
    Australia: bit.ly/2vn6b6N
    • Roland Space Echo RE-201
    soundgas.com/collections/proc...
    • Echo Fix Tape Echo EF-X2
    echofix.com/
    • Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2RVldeS
    Australia: bit.ly/2Ovelqa
    USA: bit.ly/3yb1ixU
    • TC Electronic FlashbackII X4
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Ng22fq
    Australia: bit.ly/2CcbQ3z
    USA: imp.i114863.net/6Z0KV
    • MXR M169 Carbon Copy Analog Delay
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2f8N2i1
    Australia: bit.ly/2yad65a
    USA: bit.ly/3pJh2nP
    • Jam Pedals TPS Ltd Edition Rattler
    www.thatpedalshowstore.com/co...
    www.jampedals.com/rattler/
    • Keeley D&M Drive
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oTblU1
    Australia: bit.ly/2pUDUAE
    USA: bit.ly/3oDVVnJ
    www.thatpedalshowstore.com/co...
    • TheGigRig G2
    www.thegigrig.com/g2
    * Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    - Intro playing: 0:00
    - Hello! 2:11
    - Old, new, borrowed & blue: 02:55
    - What are we doing today? 3:20
    - Today’s questions? 4:00
    - What is the new blue tape machine?: 04:48
    - Ooh, look at the tape! 5:00
    - If we seem tired today… 06:40
    - What is the difference between tape and analogue delay?: 07:25
    - Amps today?: 09:30 (9:47)
    - First listen to the Space Echo clean: 10:50
    - Comparing Space Echo to the MXR Carbon Copy: 11:35
    - Comparing Space Echo with Digital Delay: 13:30
    - Analogue and digital delay with gain: 16:19
    - And so to the tape echoes, finally! 17:45
    - Explaining the RE-201 Space Echo: 18:05
    - Space Echo clean with Dan’s Tele: 19:40
    - First listen to the Echo Fix: 20:35
    - The importance of EQ on the repeats: 22:30
    - Space Echo and Echo Fix with gain: 23:20
    - What’s Airwolf? 24:40
    - The importance of impedance/buffering with the Space Echo: 26:30
    - And inevitably more talk of buffers: 27:20
    - RE-210 multi-tap tape sounds: 29:19
    - Echo Fix: 31:10
    - The effect of head gap and tape speed on delay time: 32:21
    - Three heads - we should have said that already… 33:15
    - Belle Epoch Deluxe? (yes, we know it’s EP-3 alike) 36:15 (37:05)
    - Space Echo, Echo Fix and BED with longer delay times: 37:00 (37:48)
    - …and with a bit of gain and oscillation… 43:10
    - FlashbackII X4 in tape mode: 46:04
    - One thing I would say… 48:10
    Guitars in this episode:
    • Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
    • Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
    Amps in this episode
    • Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature with Two-Rock 212 cabinet / TR 1265B speakers
    • Matchless HC30 with Bob Burt Custom 1x12 / Celestion G12M Greenback
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Komentáře • 546

  • @kevroyo
    @kevroyo Před 4 lety +288

    I'm sure I'm speaking for quite a few people here but I wanted to give you guys a very sincere thanks for doing what you do. I owe most of my technological knowledge and understanding of guitar pedals and amps to your show. There aren't many sources I can go to that have me excited to learn so again, thanks to the entire TPS crew, you guys rock 🤘

    • @Ad0n1jah_91
      @Ad0n1jah_91 Před 4 lety +3

      Amen!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 4 lety +3

      +1 on that

    • @chrisj2155
      @chrisj2155 Před 4 lety +2

      Preach! Although my bank account would probably disagree with me!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 4 lety +3

      @Johan Carlson We could start a TPS Co-op. Maybe incorporate something like Kickstarter and/or GoFundMe. A quasi-Socialist arrangement just for TPS folks, where we buy/trade/share etc. Probably unworkable (and pedal companies might be unimpressed) but the aging Lefty in me can dream...

    • @winstonsmith8236
      @winstonsmith8236 Před 4 lety

      @@mattgilbert7347 Not that this is what you mean, but the r/letstradepedals and r/guitarpedals on Reddit are "communities" you might want to check out, if you haven't already. i learn a lot, not too too many trolls/and I've saved A LOT of money trading.

  • @garystackhouse5787
    @garystackhouse5787 Před 4 lety +37

    It shouldn't shock ANYONE how much fidelity a tape delay can have, as, for years, the music we grew up loving was recorded, mixed and mastered on tape. If the fundamental characteristics of tape were wow, flutter and loss of frequency response, all our favourite songs up until the 90's would sound like they were being run through a flanger, vibrato, and an old Supro tube amp!

  • @musicmann1967
    @musicmann1967 Před 4 lety +35

    Mick should be a copyright lawyer. "Literally what you were just playing, but different notes!" LOL

  • @ResoBridge
    @ResoBridge Před 4 lety +5

    Shane at Echo Fix is a top bloke. He is the only source I have found for Roland parts and tapes that actually work. He really helped me out with parts and advice when I was fixing a couple of Roland Space Echo's for a client. Great to see that now he even has his own tape delay unit.

  • @barthendrickx2458
    @barthendrickx2458 Před 4 lety +22

    Great show, as always! Nothing beats the magic of real tape for me. 5 years ago I bought a 70s tape machine: Vorg (by Pearl) Echo Orbit 1. I have been gigging with it every week since then. Never had any issue. The maintenance is minimal: every year I cut a new made-to-measure tape, clean the heads and put a new drive belt in the engine. No digital emulation ever brought the same smile to my face as this thing. It is not only the EQ or the modulation that make the difference. It’s an indefinable physical experience.

    • @paulbangash4317
      @paulbangash4317 Před 4 lety +2

      Bart Hendrickx yep , it is in the same room as you , right there...

  • @spike_4174
    @spike_4174 Před 4 lety +13

    I absolutely love this channel.. Providing hour long uncut episodes of pure knowledge and tone goodness and a few laughs. Thank you for all of your hard work for us to relax in our seats and learn everything there is to know about effects. I thoroughly enjoy every minute.

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton Před 4 lety +11

    One of the great features of the Strymon Volante is the “tape wear” knob. All the way to the left you get the full fidelity of the tape, and the more you turn to the right the less fidelity and darker the repeats become. Then you can add modulation with the “mechanics” knob. Its doesn’t have the exact character of a good analog delay, but it gets that sound pretty darn well.

  • @PhilipValdesMusic
    @PhilipValdesMusic Před 4 lety +58

    Merch idea: a DB meter that just says "sounds bad" for less than 100 dB and "sounds good" for over 100 dB

    • @AlexS....
      @AlexS.... Před 4 lety +5

      In CoOp with JHS, because loud is more good!

    • @patriotpizzaman
      @patriotpizzaman Před 4 lety +5

      @Wild Eye Josh is awesome! No other pedal maker gives as much love to other pedal maker's gear. He's the best!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 4 lety +1

      @Wild Eye Whoa dude I hope that's an attempt at "friendly hassle" (it's not irony or sarcasm) because otherwise, chill the fuck out. Josh is ok. JHS make some cool stuff and his vlog is fun and informative.
      Unless you're actually Devi Ever in which case I'll show myself out (cool fuzzes, cool chick but...well. I've said enough. It's a dead horse, and I ain't about to flog it).

    • @erniesfo
      @erniesfo Před 4 lety

      @@AlexS.... Don't you mean "more loud"?

    • @hoboroadie
      @hoboroadie Před 4 lety +1

      The relic-ing guitar bag: It ties to the rear bumper of your Holden.

  • @cateye560
    @cateye560 Před 4 lety +4

    I love what you guys do, and I adore delay/echo myself as well. Over forty years ago, I was given (yes given!!!) a WEM Copicat Custom dated about 1965- '66ish, it is all valve, and has the most amazing sound. It is still working to this day. It is rather fragile, the case is falling apart, but it's hanging in there. I know it is not on the level of your units, but it has a unique sound all of it's own. I have learned a lot from you two about all kinds of effects and set ups over the years. I know you will, but please keep doing what you do, because we really love what you do...

  • @ryuyamakawa4431
    @ryuyamakawa4431 Před 4 lety +4

    Rattler with tape echo sound just incredible. Thank you very much for demo.

  • @Ad0n1jah_91
    @Ad0n1jah_91 Před 4 lety +3

    Man alive, those delay sounds are so inspiring! Listening to you two get lost in what you're playing is great, cheers for the quality content! 👍👍

  • @noahtysonhighlonesome8117

    Great show, as usual!! Space echo has been a dream of mine, for years! Just amazing things!! Thanks for sharing!

  • @tomaburque
    @tomaburque Před 4 lety +7

    You know you've become a fan of this show when you hear about the weather in Great Britain and the first thing you think is "I wonder how Dan and Mick are holding up?"

  • @Stringtrees
    @Stringtrees Před 4 lety +2

    Yet again, some lovely chordage from Dan.A Fab episode. I used a Space Echo extensively in a studio years ago and loved it. Also, as others have commented, that tone with Mick using the Rattler with the D &M drive-oh my word,. Even after a late night gigging this .Inspired me to set up my live rig in the living room and mess around all afternoon-much to the disgust of the cat.. I have a different array of pedals and went off on my own tangent but ended up changing the order of a couple of drive pedals whilst playing with my delay. As you have said before, it is all about being inspired by your gear. Cheers yet again guys.

  • @marknachmias423
    @marknachmias423 Před 4 lety +2

    I got an Echo Fix EF-X2. It’s wonderful. Thanks for the tip guys!

  • @davidrohland9319
    @davidrohland9319 Před 4 lety +1

    Yet another hour of unadulterated inspiration - thank you, gentlemen! 🎸

  • @Soundgas
    @Soundgas Před 4 lety +5

    Have to say I'm blown away by how good the Belle Epoch sounds - thanks for giving me pedal GAS guys (of course we already have an Echo Fix machine)

  • @harryklippton
    @harryklippton Před 4 lety +1

    Best episode in quite a while! Thanks fellas

  • @AlbusBand
    @AlbusBand Před 4 lety +2

    G-L-O-R-I-O-U-S!!! Dan + echo is magic. I could listen to him jam on it all day.
    Love,
    Aaron

  • @HenritheHorse
    @HenritheHorse Před 4 lety +7

    Thanks for the great dub soundtrack for my wake and bake session!

  • @JoshClarkson
    @JoshClarkson Před 4 lety +2

    As soon as the Q&A went up I was all "WHAT'S THAT BLUE THING!?!?", glad I didn't have to wait too long.

  • @georgepatterson7499
    @georgepatterson7499 Před 4 lety +2

    The sound on that opening riff is so sweet

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton Před 4 lety +2

    MAN! The Rattler into the D&M drive is AWESOME! You guys really picked well.

  • @fivewattworld
    @fivewattworld Před 4 lety +5

    Congratulations on breaking 200k subs! Not a small accomplishment.

  • @bassmandudge
    @bassmandudge Před 4 lety +3

    I echo Kevin's post. Following on from an older Chris Buck video, and from relentlessly watching your video reviews, I bought a Catlinbread Echorec...it has simply been one of the best sounding and most inspirational purchases in years. Thanks...

  • @Bealzeebozzo
    @Bealzeebozzo Před 4 lety +3

    I own several old tape echo units from the 70's. Cartridge units from Japan, Italy, each has its own flavour.

  • @bretonleo8740
    @bretonleo8740 Před 4 lety +1

    What ? already the end of the show ? I was hooked from the beginning to the end, so great to hear those machines ;) thanks a lot guys

  • @TimBentley
    @TimBentley Před 4 lety +2

    Love listening to good guitarists play with real tape (and drum) delays :-) The enthusiasm you guys have for (almost) all the gear you bring to the show is very infectious. I do not need a tape delay... I do not need a tape delay... I do not need...

  • @joellee97
    @joellee97 Před 4 lety +1

    Round of applause for Mics playing! Unreal!

  • @hotmilkcrewberlin4475
    @hotmilkcrewberlin4475 Před 4 lety +1

    Dan dan dan, you improved so much! great to see such progress.

  • @MarkDelsing
    @MarkDelsing Před 4 lety +7

    Just wanted to mention how great the core tone was for this episode. I can't think of a more quintessentially Dan & Mick amp combo than the Two Rock and Dan's new Matchless. It's like a "boutique upgrade" version of the Super Reverb and AC30 setup you guys used to use all the time back in the old Pedal Shed.
    Bonus: Let me make my regular plea for more Hiwatt. 😁

  • @patrickellington4116
    @patrickellington4116 Před 4 lety

    Dan, your playing is otherworldly! So inspired. Sleep deprivation and tape echo really bring it out of you.

  • @khai_nomore8613
    @khai_nomore8613 Před 4 lety +1

    Tape delay episode. Can't wait to learn from this.

  • @datkinson31
    @datkinson31 Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderful episode!

  • @erajad
    @erajad Před 4 lety +5

    (VCQ-ish) For all those times someone says, "But this stuff is so expensive! Please feature cheaper stuff!" (Came up on the visit to Jam Pedals video lately...). I just watched Josh Scott's "$50 Pedals That Don't Suck" and he got a complaint in the comments to the effect of, "Not everyone wants cheap stuff - could you please feature some more aspirational gear." (I paraphrase.) To which someone replied: "There's a channel for that: it's called That Pedal Show." So there you go: there's just no pleasing everyone, all the time. One would be a fool to try. So, thanks again for what YOU do! 👍

    • @noahzeidman508
      @noahzeidman508 Před 4 lety

      So funny because Josh features top of the line gear (and even crazy stuff you can only buy on a lawyer’s salary) all the time!

  • @neiledgson6737
    @neiledgson6737 Před 4 lety +57

    New T-shirt design - "sorry, wrong knob". :-)

    • @nigelpickett2471
      @nigelpickett2471 Před 4 lety

      Oh yes, make this happen.

    • @peddlereffects
      @peddlereffects Před 4 lety +1

      10/10 would buy

    • @rikmcrae
      @rikmcrae Před 4 lety +1

      Neil Edgson yes. Essential purchase. 3xl size please for those of us with the fuller figure. 🤣

    • @nigelpickett2471
      @nigelpickett2471 Před 4 lety +1

      4XL for me, I'm a fat bastard. Love to fly the flag for TPS.

  • @edadpops1709
    @edadpops1709 Před 4 lety +2

    Echo fix is just more of the goodness. Sweet!

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi Před 4 lety +2

    I had lost track of time and didn't realize until I saw this on front page that it's friday! People might be tired with the old delay units at this point... But whenever I see words like Echoplex, Echorec or similar mentioned, I can't keep my pants on. That's how excited I get before even seeing the episode. To think I used to only have reverb from amp and now I have Carbon Copy always on and get excited by just seeing the word echo.

  • @mikespillane8289
    @mikespillane8289 Před 4 lety +3

    Classic: "It was what you were playing, but different notes!" I'm using that in band situations. Also Airwolf is classic too!

  • @trebleboost7
    @trebleboost7 Před 4 lety

    Nice chordal work there Dan! Digging it!

  • @jpford96
    @jpford96 Před 4 lety

    Man, Dan’s playing was on fire today!

  • @hardrockindaddy
    @hardrockindaddy Před 4 lety

    brilliant video, I echo everyone's comments...thanks to you guys I'm slowly acquiring one choice pedal at a time. .

  • @SkinnyGeorge
    @SkinnyGeorge Před 4 lety +1

    Man I wish you would have heard the Space preset on the flashback x4.
    Since Dan likes the reverb in the Roland unit, I love the verb mod type of tone you get out of that space sound. So good! Great show as always, hope you guys get some rest!

  • @asnipa
    @asnipa Před 4 lety +2

    The show must go on! Even with a dub reggae hangover from Greece. A Friday without TPS is like a guitar with a broken string. Dan, man your playing is just divine!

  • @kylepatterson8445
    @kylepatterson8445 Před 4 lety +3

    Finally a old school That Pedal Show in the room with gear and no guest appearances. :)
    I like what you said about expectation of Tap Echo. I recently got a Giga Delay from Boss, which has a Space Echo (No Reverb) emulation. I was super disappointed because it sounded so clean. I was fully wanting the aged tape effect from the emulation. I had to come to terms with that fact that a "perfect" emulation of tape delay from a Space Echo would be "perfect" with new tape and without the sounds caused by poor maintenance. I also realized that the digital delay sound is actually what they were going for when Tape delay was designed. Perfect repeats. It just wasn't possible at the time and we came to love the "imperfect" sound. Seems to happen a lot with musicians and gear.
    Fortunately that pedal has a modulated delay, which accomplishes closer to the same thing, so I was still happy. That's a fantastic delay btw. I'm surprised it's never made it onto the show.
    Also, would people stop complaining about how the Carbon Copy is dark? That's it's sound, and it's a great sound. If this had been made in the 80's by some company in Japan, people would be drooling over it.

  • @lukesaunders4776
    @lukesaunders4776 Před 4 lety +2

    16:25 more of this please Mick that was flipping brilliant, immediately went and picked up my Ibanez after hearing this!

  • @mikeroadblock
    @mikeroadblock Před 4 lety +1

    Air wolf was awesome. Every episode ended with them just using they’re big machine gun. You guys rock!

  • @rockpebble100
    @rockpebble100 Před 4 lety +1

    great show guys, thank you.

  • @maatmanninen3394
    @maatmanninen3394 Před 4 lety +3

    The Echo Fix is very tempting! I also agree that the Belle Epoch's control labels are darn near impossible to read. I ended up using my label maker to make it all BOLD and legible! Great show, guys, jet lag and all....

  • @ericjanusch3032
    @ericjanusch3032 Před 4 lety +1

    Dan and Mick… Another great show! Love spending my Saturday mornings with you guys. Sign me up for the “Twidge Authentic” T-Shirt and coffee mug! Future vlog subject for Dan is just locking him in a room with tape delays and recording his guitar face when he’s in the zone… Priceless!

  • @robertprice5039
    @robertprice5039 Před 4 lety +5

    I remember the 1980s and how much better the Space Echos (My favorite) and the Echoplexes sounded versus my Boss DM-2. Yes there is magic in the tape, but I am very happy with my standard version Belle Epoch. It gets me 90% there, and it always works.

  • @TheRealHucasys
    @TheRealHucasys Před 4 lety

    I definitely love wobbly tape! :))) So much more inspiring and mysterious...

  • @waterpig84
    @waterpig84 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for another video, love your show

  • @samuelxavier2473
    @samuelxavier2473 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for that very public demonstration of how and why it's so easy to get lost in time when playing with delays. I can spend hours faffing about with them and so it seems, can you guys. :)

  • @dunhamchris
    @dunhamchris Před 4 lety +2

    Dan, you’re so at home with a delay.
    Seeing you play, eyes closed and enjoying the sound is magical. Keep it up mate.
    On another note, I’m aware there is no better or right/wrong. But I have to say my El Capistran is inspiring to play. It turns my guitar noise into guitar music (well... to me at least). And I’ll admit I haven’t played the Belle Epoch nor an actual tape echo.

  • @75YBA
    @75YBA Před 4 lety +2

    Never thought I’d hear “Airwolf” on this show. Big ups!

  • @bexserver
    @bexserver Před 4 lety +1

    I was watching the video with headphones no and my other half walks past at 46:52 and goes “oh, cocky’s happy about something”. As an Aussie I’m sure you appreciate that one, Dan - I bloody cracked up! Cool episode, I love me some El Capistan.

  • @JAugust
    @JAugust Před 4 lety +10

    I liked the RE-201 the most almost every time. There's magic when that gets turned on.

  • @EdwardWFeery
    @EdwardWFeery Před 4 lety +3

    Totally agree on the experience of using real tape - I've just got my hands on a T-Rex Replicator, which is the closest I'm likely to get to the monster echoboxes on show here, but even that blows my tape-style pedals out of the water.
    Thanks, as ever, for another fascinating show!

  • @FabianSalomonsson
    @FabianSalomonsson Před 4 lety +2

    Dan is indeed rocking.

  • @dancrowe7860
    @dancrowe7860 Před 4 lety +6

    Huh. Who would've thought that the secret ingredient to make TPS better was...jetlag. More tangents, connections to past shows (impedience), and the "Airwolf" theme. You boys need to travel more often!

  • @thiagomartinelli267
    @thiagomartinelli267 Před 4 lety +29

    If you are a TC electronic Flashback delay user, give a try on the Space (roland space echo), pro guitar shop Andy's EP3 and Steven Wilson Tone Prints. These are great sound delays under tape delay umbrela.

    • @hairychris444
      @hairychris444 Před 4 lety +2

      Interesting. I have an X4 so may try those!

    • @davidozab2753
      @davidozab2753 Před 4 lety +2

      My go-to toneprint is the Oscillating EP-3. It's Andy's EP-3 plus oscillations on maximum feedback. It is EPIC!

    • @marcuskruse1
      @marcuskruse1 Před 4 lety +1

      EP3 less drive & Space Echo X4 under the TC templates.

    • @SteveRayMorse
      @SteveRayMorse Před 4 lety

      Vlw...vou testar

  • @zebulonchadwick8992
    @zebulonchadwick8992 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the Roland tape delay. Dan and Mick really dig you playing y'all got some killer groves going . I'm having a Ep 3 rebuilt to add to the collection. If I keep it maintained well dare I gig with it any thought would be great . Thanks for all the information and knowledge . Cheers and have a great weekend.

  • @johnchadwick4841
    @johnchadwick4841 Před 4 lety +1

    love Dan banging his head before Mick hit the both amps off button. btw pete honore loved the ‘wrong knob’ moment on the two rock

  • @ZenDriveSeven
    @ZenDriveSeven Před 4 lety +1

    Did I miss the new studio back wall layout? Looks amazing! Loving the wood on the back wall...much warmer, almost tube amp like ;). Keep up the great work, D&M!

  • @papaacorn9479
    @papaacorn9479 Před 4 lety +1

    Highlight of every Friday. Thanks gents.

  • @markannesley8848
    @markannesley8848 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey guys, love your show and I appreciate the time, experience and knowledge which goes into each episode.
    I would love to hear you have the Roland RE-201 up against a Roland RE-301 which distinguished itself by adding two new features.
    The first was a lush, analog chorus effect that was able to be used concurrently or independently from the delay effect to give a pseudo-stereo output option A and B where:
    A=Direct+Reverb+Chorus
    B=Echo+Chorus+Sound On Sound.
    Running the RE-301 with 2 amps is something you need to hear.
    Additionally, the RE-301 added a new “Sound on Sound” mode, allowing users to loop phrases and then record additional layers on top. This radical concept at the time contributed to the development of “looping”, a phenomenon that would become huge years later

  • @K8aMiura
    @K8aMiura Před 4 lety +7

    But the RE-201 looks soo much sexier! (I got one too, with a DC-50 sitting on top) I met Mick, Dan and Rabea along with that Yoshi guy, randomly at a guitar store in Tokyo (Ishibashi, Ochanomizu) last year! It just so happened to be Dan's birthday but I didn't know at that time. (Happy belated b-day Dan.) I used to be more of a Mick fan, but after meeting them Dan was just such a down to earth effects nerd that I'm more of a fan of him now (super genuine nice guy, actually Rabea too, Mick was being like a crazy kid running around the store picking up a metal zone and saying "this is what you've been looking for"). They were looking for a Boss DSD2, which they eventually found at a Hard Off Shop (Crazy name, but the online store is called Hard On...line). Anyways I hope I meet them again someday. (I was surprised to be soo starstruck meeting them. I asked the Japanese people working at the store if they knew them. They said "of course" I couldn't tell cos they weren't freaking out like me.)

  • @jaycoyoyo
    @jaycoyoyo Před 4 lety +1

    this is a great demonstration of the difference between tape and analog chip (bucket brigade)

  • @davidryle
    @davidryle Před 3 lety +2

    The EF-X2 is now (2020) built with a true spring reverb so it's similar to the RE501. It also has a digital chorus which you can blend with the reverb.

  • @777Yoni
    @777Yoni Před 4 lety +31

    Mark Lettieri smashes lamp and end table with baritone guitar after failing to be honked after name drop.

  • @chedhead3278
    @chedhead3278 Před 4 lety +3

    Cheers chaps lovely sounding stuff all round. There does seem to be more going on with the RE-201, but then apart from the tape the preamp, compander, reverb circuitry and output are all electronics 'of a certain age' doing their thing which adds up I guess, that red light seemed to be on quite a bit as well. Nice reminder of how good the carbon copy sounds with some bright/mid heavy drive too. Hit that long blue note......and let it float. :)

  • @LorSTApunk07
    @LorSTApunk07 Před 4 lety +1

    I love my old Danecho & Obscura delays. Both great sounding digital delays, in my opinion.

  • @sirchtheworld
    @sirchtheworld Před 4 lety +3

    Mick, Dan is right, your timing is outstanding. Hint on what to do when someone compliments you: just say ‘thank you.’ Period. From a person who long had a problem with deflecting praise. You are indeed becoming one hell of a guitarist.

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Před rokem

      I know this post is pretty old, however, your advice is great. I learned this trick from Garth Algar in Wayne’s World. “Just say thank you” hahah.

  • @gonzopewpew7838
    @gonzopewpew7838 Před 4 lety +6

    Dan’s big hairy Australian man arm fiddling with pedals always brightens up my day 🌤

  • @ZaneDWells
    @ZaneDWells Před 4 lety +2

    Love these tape delay sounds.I'd really love to hear y'all explore the Moog MF-104M Analog Delay.

  • @vladimirpavlovic9488
    @vladimirpavlovic9488 Před 4 lety +7

    Very underrated tape pedal delay is Pigtronix Echolution 2. Very very good sounding and not that exprensive even.

  • @JohnLawrieTWS
    @JohnLawrieTWS Před 4 lety +3

    I had the chance to use an Echo Fix in a studio here in Aus a few months back and it was the first time I ‘got’ tape delays. I’d always just assumed it was like an analog delay, but the interactivity between myself, the amp, the guitar and the whole circuit made it feel like the tape delay was it’s own instrument. Maybe it’s just my brain tricking me because these units are physically big, but I’m finding the more I get the chance to use old school style gear like these and Leslies and all the rest of it, how the irreplaceable imperfections and chaos of them inspires the playing!

  • @gordrock
    @gordrock Před 4 lety +1

    This was like a flashback episode to the original shows just with better audio and video. It was nice to get back to the roots for an episode. The 201 sure does have its own mojo and I'd have to say I'm with Dan, I'd use one live if I could and take the risk, it's worth it. Don't get me wrong I'd have a suitable back up but if it's there to be used, I say use it.

  • @timcorfield
    @timcorfield Před 4 lety +1

    The D&M>Rattler>Carbon Copy was just ... sublime.

  • @PJSGBC
    @PJSGBC Před 4 lety +3

    Humiliating (for me) compliment for you guys... been playing for 30+ years but because I was never a delay user (except in post... recording), I truly never grasped the differences in types until this video... it was like Simon's explaining harmonics. So, please, never refrain from the simple things. I consider myself fairly adept at these things, but because this was a specific area not in my orbit, I was in need of this video because I wanted to get better at this. Most info out there is either childish or you need a degree in aerospace engineering to grasp. I wish the know-it-alls could remember when they didn't know-it-all and appreciate that some of us like learning. Inspiring playing too... thanks gents.

  • @rs700910
    @rs700910 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for clearing a lot of my confusion chaps... to you this is fairly simple, to me its like looking in the mirror and seeing someone else reflection... 🤠

  • @cayceburks8854
    @cayceburks8854 Před 4 lety +6

    Always laugh when Mick does a non-confrontational ask of Dan to move or readjust something, and Dan makes necessary adjustments (with a chuckle this time). Haha! Just a little thing, but it shows yalls (I’m from Kentucky) professionalism. Love the videos guys seriously, keep up the great work!

    • @forester057
      @forester057 Před 4 lety

      Y’all is an improvement to the English language. Much clearer that it is indeed plural instead of “your” (can be singular or plural resulting in unnecessary ambiguity).

  • @adamf5541
    @adamf5541 Před 4 lety +1

    Man it's good to see that 200k have subscribed, I'm so happy for you guys.
    Another great episode. The RE-201 sounds so luscious, nothing stacks up against it really.
    After watching TPS and chatting to Mick I brought the Belle Epoch Deluxe and it is good, but man does it dampen down the high end sparkle.
    The merch is all good, but TPS pedals seem to get snapped up pretty quick! Let's have a TPS Fuzz (TFP)!!!

  • @gregcumming2760
    @gregcumming2760 Před 4 lety

    Thanks you two. Trustworthy info! Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Dan.

  • @banker720
    @banker720 Před 4 lety +2

    finally! tape echoes!

  • @MegaAnarcist
    @MegaAnarcist Před 4 lety +2

    Your tone is amazing!! That's what she said 😁😁

  • @MythosSoundStudio
    @MythosSoundStudio Před 4 lety +1

    Well, obviously the description of this show should have been size matters....lol. Some absolutely great tones our these effects - always love the comparison of analogue to digital. Love watching the mechanics of the echo tape - mesmerizing. Thanks guys - great comparison and review.

  • @eletricladyland
    @eletricladyland Před 4 lety +4

    That Airwolf tone... The Airwolf theme is colossal, Dan needs to check it out

    • @ChrisDN
      @ChrisDN Před 4 lety +1

      Can you hear a cello?

    • @eletricladyland
      @eletricladyland Před 4 lety

      @@ChrisDN Let's start a petition for there to be a remake of Airwolf starring The Rock as 'John Airwolf'

  • @BellTunnel
    @BellTunnel Před 4 lety +1

    That Echo Fix is really inspiring.

  • @jdavis.fw303
    @jdavis.fw303 Před 4 lety +1

    This episode Dan & Mick take two benedryl and still attempt to do the show! J/K Love you guys, Great Episode!!! God that Rattler is gonna break me of my pedal apathy. I've got so many pedals over the last few years I had actually burned out and started a new money pit habit, eurorack modular synth. But man I need a Rattler!!!!!

  • @the5chord
    @the5chord Před 4 lety

    Great show guys! Get some sleep! And hopefully down the road we can get an RE-20 in the room again with the RE-201 and EchoFix down the road.

  • @purushswaminathan5693
    @purushswaminathan5693 Před 4 lety +5

    Lettieri is like the cesium clock that keeps time for everyone. we're all on the analog clock level🤣

  • @SeanMRoberts
    @SeanMRoberts Před 4 lety +2

    If you don’t want to use an expression pedal for the belle epoch deluxe but still want to always run through the preamp, you can. Flip the switch inside the pedal for trails mode. The pedal is no longer true bypass and instead cuts the signal off at the record head. So you get spill over, no new repeats, and your dry signal still runs through the preamp.

  • @tonybrooks476
    @tonybrooks476 Před 4 lety +3

    Almost turned into the end of pick n mix there!

  • @TheLiar88
    @TheLiar88 Před 4 lety +1

    Unrelated to Tape Echo but I had to share: recently, I bought a Nash S-57 and fell in love with it. Something about it’s sound and sanded neck gives me the chills. The strings, however, were a little smaller than my Casino’s flatwound 10s making the transition uncomfortable. When I went out to buy some new strings, I was struck with an even better idea- I would order a set of Mick’s strings (along with stickers and magnets; my first TPS order)! Well, they came in yesterday (after a week in the mail to the US) and were installed last night. I’m loving them. The size and feel of them is fantastic so instead of one, I may have to go back and buy them in bulk as to have them my regular strings. Perhaps, if I ever get a Tele, I’ll try Dan’s out of morbid curiosity but if anyone is curious about Mick’s set- they are utterly fantastic.

  • @daveystrange
    @daveystrange Před 4 lety

    I really enjoyed this episode as I feel I much better understand the fundamental characteristics and differences between tape/analog/digital delay now. Mick - it looked like you were really in the zone in the intro, particularly when Dan dialled in the dub echo. It was nice to see you lost in the sound rather than going through the motions with the familiar licks (of which we all do of course). Plus I agree with Dan, you do have impeccable timing. You're sometimes too humble regarding your playing too! Cheers TPS for yet another great, informed, and educational episode!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Davey. I wish I could put into words how different it is actually playing music than chumming on, on CZcams. I’m actually a half decent guitar player when I’m not sat on that stool trying to explain shit to people. My brain can’t make music and be on CZcams. They’re fundamentally opposed. But thank you!

  • @benspinks342
    @benspinks342 Před 4 lety +2

    Great show as ever. Out of interest when you have two delay styles on your board, the Epoch and ADRX20 for instance, do you use them for different duties/songs or are they always working together?

  • @shaundarley4108
    @shaundarley4108 Před 4 lety +1

    "It was literally what you were playing.... just different notes". Eric Morecambe said something very similar many years ago but it was still properly laugh out loud funny. Thanks guys. And whilst I'm typing I'll echo (my co-subscriber) Kevin Yost's sentiments; thanks for all you do. Friday evening, TPS plus a G&T or two; fab-u-los

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před 4 lety

      Cheers Shaun! Mick here - I’m packing store orders with a liddle drinkee myself. Happy Friday!

  • @edwardbosloper2445
    @edwardbosloper2445 Před 4 lety

    Incredible sounds as always. Tape is certainly amazing in a studio, but for me the combination of my Flashback 2 for digital and Strymon volante for tape and drum echo sounds , makes it way more practical to cart around to play with.
    There can never be enough episodes on Delay!