Billy Vunipola on Faith, Family & Folau - Good Bad Rugby Podcast #2
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2020
- Alex Payne and James Haskell are joined on The Good, The Bad & The Rugby Podcast by England number 8 Billy Vunipola for a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation about why he felt he let himself down at the 2019 World Cup and his complicated relationship with brother Mako Vunipola. They also discuss faith, vulnerability, slapping George Kruis and why losing to South Africa in the final was a great thing to happen to him. And he springs a major announcement!
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As a Pacific islander living in England.
This interview with Billy has been great that you touched on his pacific heritage and appreciating the spiritual side. Taking the time to explore his faith was outstanding; as you know, faith and prayer help us navigate through tough times when wrestling with mental health. I loved this interview.
Bloody funny too!
It’s quite sad how much Billy puts himself down. The guys a good bloke
I love this. I love how Billy is so open about his religion, his family and how he is always so focused on everything. Plus the fact he has personally opened about the way he was pre and post RWC I thought must have taken courage and he will no doubt have the massive respect of Eddie and his Sarrie & England team mates. GOOD, BAD & RUGBY ROCKS!!!!
Agnostic myself, but very happy to see there are still christians out there who haven't been brow beaten into silence. Takes courage these days for christians to talk openly about their faith so full respect to Billy V. P.S. If he actually liked doing weights, he'd be unstoppable.
As a Christian I respect what u have said cheers for that m8👍🏾. God bless.
I don't know. Compared to the "Joe" episodes the team seem to be more open and unleashed. Well done for another great episode!
Nailed it again Lads. Eddie in the First episode, Billy in this. The gift that keeps on giving. 🙏
Thanks Stuart!
watching hask while billy is talking and then the questions really show his concern and friendship he feels towards billy. love watching the show guys.
The first one was brilliant with Eddie. This one was double brilliant with Billy. You've got to get Mako in this series...
Great lads. Really touched by the openness of Billy and Hask. Very refreshing. Thanks.
Our pleasure!
Billy your honesty is awesome, your rugby is stunning, and your a rugby hero....
Huge respect to Alex and James for taking the time to respectfully hear Billy's opinions on faith...we need more open discussions like this rather than just tearing into people that have a different viewpoint to a prescribed narrative.
House of Rugby (are we allowed to mention the name??) was a seriously good podcast, but the last two episodes of the Good, the Bad and the Rugby have been a whole other step up. Thanks guys!
Thanks Dave 👍
Tearing into people like condemning them to hell for their sexuality? The reasons he gave were lazy at best. Burning bibles? So one person burns a bible, and all of a sudden it's the whole movement? Also, it seems quite hypocritical to paint everyone with the same brush over the actions of a few. I mean, do I need to get into the pedo abuse in the church, surely that goes against his beliefs, and therefore he shouldn't support Christianity? This guy seems really thick and pig ignorant to be perfectly honest. Good thing he is good at running into people I guess.
Big Sham 69 you might be right with all of that. He still holds that belief and viewpoint and discussing it in a respectful manner under the concept of freedom of speech is a positive for everyone involved in the discussion. You cannot pigeon hole everyone into your or anyone else’s view reality.
@@chichim2020 might want to think again there fella. My best mate lost his little brother to suicide after being subjected to this small minded religious intolerance in the 90s. Coming from Ireland I also have family who went through the industrial schools system and the abuse that was rampant and covered up there. So this type of bigotry does affect me. Excuse me for not being so submissive to the church and their views. Maybe take your own advice and don't comment if it doesn't affect you?
@@finnburke7189 yes I agree with you there, and I have the freedom to express my opinion that Billy's beliefs and argument for said beliefs is not very well thought out at all.
I don't know why,but hearing him talking about his faith is so refreshing.
These two podcasts have been absolutley amazing. I particularly enjoy the more conversational tone. I've always respected Eddie and Billy, but hearing them speak openly really gives a much better understanding of them. You can clearly see why people follow individuals like them. Both truly great blokes
Love the show, love Billy. So refreshing to listen to somebody speak so candidly about their faith.
“You must of done a lot of crying” 😂😂
This was one of the best! Well done lads, keep ‘em coming.
Congrats to you both Billy & Simmone, loved the exploration & surprise from personalities in the game in the old series, this is just as entertaining. Looking forward to lots more.
Another belter of an episode boys, great questioning, good to see Billy out and talking openly about things. It didn't feel forced at all from either side and was great too. On to the next !!!
Keep up the awesome work lads.
Fantastic interview again this week lads. Well done.... Christ it's going to hard to top the previous two. Can't wait for next week.
Another great episode. Thank you. Billy such a deep interesting person. Cheers from Kernow. Looking forward to welcoming him down to the Mennaye whenever the season gets going.
Brilliant yet again 👏👏👏👏👏👏.....
Brilliant again chaps. Billy is another great guest. Tell you what, these hour and a half shows only feel like 10 minutes. They are so good 👍👍👍👍
You guys are nailing this.. It's impossible not respect Billy. What an incredible character to have around. And it's true, big characters succeed on riding the wave of their bravado, having a strong network or partner to act as the counter balance and prevent you from falling off the wave and becoming an arrogant N*b head is critical. I'm approaching 40 and still struggle with a lot of what Billy talks about. You never stop learning and life in general is a series of discoveries that hopefully develop you to be the best version of your self at that time. You just need to recognise the weak points in your character, accept and be honest about them and use whatever tools you have to improve on them.
Love you guys and the show.. avid fan, frustrated ex player.. the atmosphere in this podcast just takes me back to training, gym sessions etc.. thanks for keeping the dream alive.
It's so easy just to listen to Billy, added a lot of value to this pod!
Again another great podcast!! After just also listening to the podcast from the house of rugby episode 33 with Dan Leo it just again highlights the struggle and lack of recognition from the rugby powers that be, that Pacific Island rugby teams are still going through. Also congrats to Billy and his wife on the upcoming birth of their child. Keep up the great work guys!!
This took me much longer that usual to watch but I am so glad that I watched from beginning to end as it was one of the best interviews i have seen the team do! Well done to all involved and you really have started with the bar well and truly high!
Superb episode - love the easy chat. Thank you all 😊
Awesome episode. It's so good to hear Hask and Billy talk about their insecurities and issues around perfection. I only played at amateur level but really struggled with a similar issue. I pushed myself so hard not to fail and could never take the good away from a game there was always something wrong, something I missed. It's reassuring and concerning to hear these kind of problems affect Grassroots all the way to top level. I think particularly at our level mental health is hidden a lot under the post game drinks and initiation stuff until it's too late. I think there is more to be done in opening up this area, just the tip of the iceberg.
Well said, Sam 👍
Awesome lads! Great episode! Malo Billy, ofa atu uce! 👍🏾👌🏾
Great episode lad !! Well played 🍺🤙
You guys just get better & better. Thank you for the weekly fix!
Our pleasure!
Another great episode
Loving the honesty and insights
Another massive pod. Great listen
In the middle of video. Loving it. Billy is so open and refreshing perspective. 👏
Glad you're enjoying it Stephen 👍
Another awesome show - fully enjoyed - Thankyou
Our pleasure!
Awesome episode 👏
Great show. Congratulations on your baby 👶❤
Just watched The Eddie Show and now this one back to back both excellent shows! Was a bit unsure about The Joe move but it seems like a winner!!
Only took me 2 months to find out you had a new pod! Got here in the end lol
‘You must have done a lot of crying’! Brilliant.
It’s great to have you guys back. I have a aching feeling the left and right may start shouting loudly but keep doing what you guys are doing. It makes a nausey prop very happy.
What do u mean pal?
The if's , and's, maybes and But's...what a show!
Brilliant episode lads and as a sarries fan bloody love ya Bill
Congrats Billy on the news of the new baby on the way. As Alex states life will never be same for you again and in a good (But knackered) way ;)
Very humble gentleman, Good role model for the game.
10 man table - 9 happy 1 not - spot on. I am a person who says everyone is welcome round the table but if you are a deeek then you a deeeek. listening to this billy - thank you
yes lads
The Guardian jumping on this podcast immediately with Billy's opinions. The BBC then straight up copied the Guardian's article. My disappointment is that these papers suggest Billy's opinion is invalid. Maybe I don't agree with him, and I'm a Christian myself, but I respect his reasoning just as I respect all those who took a knee.
It's far too easy to be outraged over everything and all the different opinions people have. Just as Ugo Monye said, it's better to show respect for everyone regardless of their choice otherwise we become a culture of outrage and hatred.
The reasons he gave were lazy at best. Burning bibles? So one person burns a bible, and all of a sudden it's the whole movement? Also, it seems quite hypocritical to paint everyone with the same brush over the actions of a few. I mean, do I need to get into the pedo abuse in the church, surely that goes against his beliefs, and therefore he shouldn't support Christianity? This guy seems really thick and pig ignorant to be perfectly honest. Good thing he is good at running into people I guess.
@@samjones9866 That's a very lazy way to think about it - everyone has to choose to believe something even if they don't have faith. Plenty of Christians also took a knee last weekend - Maro Itoje and Marland Yarde are examples.
The key fundamentals of Christianity being that all have sinned and got things wrong, but all are valued human beings redeemed through no works of their own as long as their heart's in it. Many have bastardised it through not reading the Bible or cherrypicking quotes without exploring the full context as a uni student would. That includes people who are religious or not religious doing monstrous things. Indeed, Jesus was killed by religious people and the point of the gospel was not about these cultural organizations like religion but about faith and belief.
As I said I don't fully agree with Billy's reasoning but his peers have respected his actions without 'cancelling' him . And as for absurd beliefs - for the wrongs that people have done using the word 'Christian,' people of faith also used the above fundamentals as the foundations for UK moralism, for movements to the end of slavery in the UK, and for driving the civil rights movement in the US. You may not believe specifically but perhaps some of your morals are rooted in some of these 'absurdities'.
Frank Buenos It’s people like you that have moved so many people from the middle ground to the right ,
You want to cancel Billy for simply holding a different opinion to you , The BLM movement has been a disgrace, full of violence and faux anger excusing people to loot and rob from their own .
@@samjones9866 Which absurd belief of BV's did you disagree with?
@Frank Buenos Do you support BLM or not? You agree with him but you think BV should support BLM regardless of its imperfections but not be Christian because it's imperfect. What do you agree with then?
doesn't matter what you think. The reason is personal to BV.
Great again gents. Keep it up💪👍
Thanks Dan 👍
The best POD on the internet. From Australia
Thanks Brad!
Another absolute belter. 1.5 hours a week of solid gold podcast. A guest I’d like to see is sir Clive Woodward.... and Andrew cotter maybe.
Great suggestion!
Brilliant...
Banger👌
Guys, you've had quite a few household names on this show. Is it possible to perhaps talk to some players who were crudely discarded such as Ben Morgan and Danny Cipriani.
Well said...would make more a really interesting show...I'd love to listen to the Armitage brothers who were both pretty much discarded by England. I think Delon was one of the best full backs ever to play for England.
Man like Billy!
Sensational episode again....... one question, Marler in again????
Faith is the best mental health asset there is
Certainly seems that the more people there are with no faith, the more mental health problems there are.
Agreed
U believe the Gospel?
SOOOOO GOOD
Nailed it again Boys! Would love to see one of the Curry boys on this
Brilliant
Great episode guys ,just wish you guys had asked him toughest opponent ,as I reckon duane vermeulen would be top of the list.
Quite emotional listening to the potential impact of an England tour for the Pacific Islanders. I mean when you actually think about it, there’s no politics, it’s gotta be fairly straight forward. The possibilities that would come from that could shape the country to be in a better place. Positive vibes only
This podcast fails to disappoint. Two down and two great guests. Going to be hard to keep it up as you’ve set the bar incredibly high.
We're working on it!
For an hour and a half a week you boys manage set a lot of us free of any concern, through putting an easy going spin on very relevant issues. Cheers then.
Thanks Edward!
Love it guys - any plans to set up a Discord at all?
Interesting talk there by Big Billy, who is a nice and humble person. I would say the Gospel is about Jesus Christ's works on the cross not our works hence 1 Corinthians 15 1-4. Works don't save the Gospel does, people do good once saved not to be saved, that's how it works according to the bible, that's my beliefs as a Christian.
Its funny how these conversation go on in cricket . What to do with the Association or smaller nations. Ensuring the growth and survival. Intriguing.
World exclusive only the second episode! Lads you’re doing great. Although missing Tinds
He'll be back next week!
So Love it. I need a Good, Bad and the Rugby shirt: I know you may never read this comment, but this is great entertainment and this helped through Covid
Thanks Amy! Shirts may be in the works soon 👀
Always got respect for a man who stands strong on his values. Even if he does play for Saracens😅
The reasons he gave were lazy at best. Burning bibles? So one person burns a bible, and all of a sudden it's the whole movement? Also, it seems quite hypocritical to paint everyone with the same brush over the actions of a few. I mean, do I need to get into the pedo abuse in the church, surely that goes against his beliefs, and therefore he shouldn't support Christianity? This guy seems really thick and pig ignorant to be perfectly honest. Good thing he is good at running into people I guess.
Big Sham 69 you do know the internet can be used for other things than writing paragraphs to people about things they don’t care about. We’re not all out here trying to argue with everyone/anything that blinks. Stop judging strangers. Crack a beer & take a breather. Not everything has to become a political debate. 👍
@@timd1809 Hero.
@@timd1809 who says I don't care about it? I'm not a fan of religious bigotry being dragged into the sport I love, and when they continue to give this knucklehead a platform, especially on my favourite podcast, and he continues to talk politics and religion, then it does become a political debate. Keep living in your nice little bubble and just go for a beer when a topic you don't understand comes up. Some of us prefer to engage it mate.
Big Sham 69 enjoy 👋
Big Billy Ledge🏉🏉
Malo toko!🙏🏾
Christ they have a pull-up banner...this is getting posh!
(Love the show, best podcast out there)
Payno's special banner 👍
Name for the Quiz "Top Lip Banter" - Archie Curzon
Any chance of getting Squidge on? You guys rock
I do miss his Lordship, hope he’s on the next pod!
His lordship WILL be on the next pod 👍
The Good, The Bad & The Rugby music to my ears! Loving the new series 🏉❤️
Cool. I’m not gonna lie, I don’t really understand his involvement.
@@Kkpb-fh5vt - harsh...
Payno is still a god of a man!
it's true...
Name for the quiz :
Prop me the question.
On a wing and a prayer
Crouch bind engage
Tap and go
Time stamp for the Folau stuff anyone?
Entertainment at it's very finest
Some funny shit. Billy is an absolute crack up. The unfiltered unsanitised truth help you to truly understand the guests. Doesn't mean you need to agree with his beliefs or for that matter disagree. That's very much a decision we can all make a call on. Thoughtful engaging and funny.
Any plans to go into a studio again??
Yes future videos will hopefully be in studio Steve 👍
TV series next ditto Mathew Millar what a start Eddie & BV keep up the banter ScrumTryScore quiz go well GBR
I wouldn’t say he has depression but I’d say there was a level of sadness there
It’s great that he is in touch with that sadness, thats the key
👍🏻
Panyno is great, hask is a legend ... but I do miss the prince
As my old granny used to say..."f*#king A !!!" Need Cips on
PAYNOOOOO
So is the house of rugby not a thing anymore?
Who is Mako?
Is this the new show minus friends from Guinness
I really think Billy is a Top Lad. And i am happy for him to have his faith. But i don't understatement his point about BLM burning churches and bibles. I never heared about that happening. And if this is an argument for not liking BLM how do he support the church and so on.
Still i respect his opinion, i m just baffeld by this.
Is the one dislike Mako?
Why?!
Just enjoy it Billy and don't get too serious it's only a game, your rugby career will be over in a flash.
Truth has never been truer than what Alex stated about shouting from the Left and Right. People need to stop shouting and start listening.
First wooo
Congrats! Enjoy the show :)
clutch play Paul, enjoy!
Great show
The burning of bibles and churches was proved to be fake.
But anyway, brilliant podcast; so candid and interesting
As was most of the propaganda but out by BLM
@@leeshaw7523 lol u are so right.
@@leeshaw7523 spot on
Mako is 29, but how long has he looked like he's 50? Billy's got a teddybear face
Haskell looks like Triple HHH
we won't tell him that, he'll never stop talking about it!
HODOR!
6.30? That's a bloody lie in with a new born.
Stick to your guns Billy