The BEST speaker I've EVER reviewed!!! Franco Serblin Accordo!
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Franco Serblin Accordo: axissaudio.com/component/acco...
Contact: axissaudio.com/contact/
Test Equipment:
Preamp & Power Amplifiers:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Hegel H190: www.hegel.com/en/products/int...
Emotiva TA2: emotiva.com/collections/pre-a...
Galion TS120 SE: www.galion-audio.com/collecti...
CHoco Sound EMEI: www.kinki-studio.com/product-...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i or Cambridge MXN10 Streamer
www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II or Ares 12th-1
www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
(rest in peace Kent)
Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment. - Věda a technologie
I went to Seattle Hifi on a lunch break, the owner was really cool and showed me these… they were so amazing I had to stop listening to them… worth the experience to give yourself system goals
I think you should do more speakers that cost more than $10k. You did a really great job on conveying how they sound.
thank you, I probably won't, it's a lot of stress and takes a lot of time, for 60 days these are all I listened to and I had to push a lot of stuff ot the back burner lol
Love this departure from your normal reviews. Nice to see you so excited about some high end gear
Love the review! Bring more of these beauties. Not enough reviewers with your honest take on speakers at this caliber.
These are the most beautiful speakers I've ever seen! Breathtaking! I've never thought of speakers as art, but these are truly works of art!
These are exceptional speakers, I heard them years ago during my early audio journey and still couldn't forget how amazing they sounded. Still in my plan to add them to my collections someday.
Wonderful..!!! Thank you..!!! (really nice that you selected thisones in particular)
It’s a beautifully crafted speaker. I love how it sounds. Has a lot of bass for the size. Enjoyed it in my system when the dealer wanted me to try them out.
19:27 Nemo speaking the truth.😂😅 Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean it isn't worth it.
I love Serblin’s designs, absolutely gorgeous 👍
Thank you for another review, I hope you had a good time making it.
Making the review was tough but enjoying the speakers was very easy and lots of fun! :)
Great video, Nemo..those speakers are a work of art!!!!
Great Review!! I love your analogy of comparing Cars to Speakers, which IMO is a true/ excellent way of describing things.
glad you agree :) cars are awesome!
I'm more than a little jealous. I want to play with them. Thanks for the review.
I have had the same speakers for 30 some odd years... I had been saving now for 3-4 years. My local dealer carried the Serblin line. They are awesome just as you said! I opted for the Nola Champ S3 instead. They are made right New York by Carl Marchisotto who has been making and designing speakers since the mid 70's. Fun fact Brian Johnson from ACDC owns a pair of Nolas.
But as to the Serblins, they are amazing! At that price you have many choices. Great review as always!
I've never seen this beautiful a bookshelf speakers. Very unique in every way. I listened to my buddy's new KEF R1 Metas and was astounded at the build quality and sound - these have visual aesthetics I've never seen.
KEF build quality is very nice! Among the top of the more popular brands for sure!
@@NemoPropaganda And the sound reproduction - listening to non meta R1 and the new R1 Meta side by side - is shockingly apparent. Sold his R1 ( 2 years old in like new condition w/ original packaging and paperwork - $4300.00 ) .
But the finish of the Franco Serblin is in a league of its own
kef reference 1 meta, thats a real speakers end game! a real 3-way
Hey my friend, I can confirm every single word of your review, because I bought a pair of these beautiful speakers in May 2023. They sound incredible naturalness and musical. I used the Accordo with Circle Labs A 200 (hybrid amplifier), Manley chinook (phono stage), Linn LP 12 and Linn cables. From my point of view this system sounded (for me) better than the (complete) Linn System which I listen before. And, of course, I did not miss any bass, the bass is really incredible for this size of a speaker.
Great and true review, thanks and best gereetings from Germany.
Chris
sounds like an amazing system!
I WANT!!!!
…to hear these now. Also that daniel hertz system that steve huff reviewed. Next level in my audio journey if i can make enough spare cash.
Fantastic set of speakers
Oh my goodness... Those are SOO great. Wow..
Stunning!
These sound great. So small and so much bass. Midrange is there. Heard theses on the Gothenburg Hifi fair.
Dam those look amazing str8up 🔥
Going to ruin yourself on Entry level speakers 😆 Keep rocking my dude 🎉
hey what's up tee-jay!! Nah man, luckily I can adjust back pretty quick, after I sent the Accordo back I went right into enjoying the Heco Celan Revolution 3, it wasn't anywhere close of course but I grew up on a beer budget most of my life lol.
@@NemoPropaganda 😆
I love your posts! It’s not just a really really really really good steak!
🤣❤️✌️
I heard these and their bigger brothers in Munich wirh Accuphase electronics and it was my favorite room together with Totem
I've heard they pair very nicely with accuphase.
@@NemoPropaganda indeed very nicely
Just looking at them you kind of know your in for something special. Cheers
The best I’ve heard so far is the Kef reference meta and the holographic nature of it has me in its paws. Something special about UniQ or coaxial drivers and time alignment. BUT your review has me questioning whether these are better for a similar price 😅
Kef makes great stuff for sure!
Amazing review. I also like your thoughts towards the end about people demonising good products that's beyond their reach.
The speakers sounds like something I'll consider buying when I get the money; of course it because of your take on the speaker.
I'd to ask: do you use AV receivers at all? I notice you mention more of amplifiers.
no I don't, even my TV system in my main living room is stereo :). I find multi channel surroundsound to be distracting. Super cool to experience at a friends house but not something I want for myself.
Seperating the crossovers from the speakers is good because otherwise u have interaction with the speaker magnets. you dont want that. Many manufacturers probably dont do that because of economic, esthetic etc.. reasons. Also your inductors need to be placed correct or like 30cm distanced from one another.
It makes a huge difference.
Great video 👍🏼 You jumped into Dutch&Dutch 8c performance territory. Though these are next level in looks... Maybe an X Sonus Faber designer got poached 😮 lol
Franco Serblin founded Sonus Faber :). He was the original engineer.
@@NemoPropaganda 🤯 thx bruh ✊🏼
Every now and then you gotta sprinkle in the fancy stuff.
Yes, that car is worth every penny!
i would highly appreciate if you would review the RP600M Mk2, curious about your findings. See a lot of good reviews.
maybe one day :)
Hi, I've always wanted to ask when reviewers in general say 1 or 2 or 3 foot from the front wall for the speaker are they talking about to the rear of the speaker or to the front baffle of the speaker ? Thanks
I can't speak for everyone but as for myself I'm referring to front baffle to rear wall.
These sound a little like the KEF Reference 1 Meta with OEM stands. Thus wondering if you were planning or have had a chance to hear them. They are made to order in England so hard to get them at a local KEF store.
I have not heard those, they are pretty though!
@@NemoPropagandaThank you.
Great speakerss.
I prefer the Audiovector r1 arrete though
I know you love audiovector lol, I still have not heard them though.
Best amp iyho to power these beauties or possibly the Accordo Essence: Pass Labs INT 250 vs Accuphase E 650 (Class A) vs Pathos Kratos Hybrid vs Constelation Inspiration 1.0 vs (wild card- Dan D'Agostino Progression)
I'm not really qualified to answer that question as I don't have many data points or experience with higher end amps like that. I think the dealer should be better able to assist you with this.
I would like to be in a position to afford these. They look so nice. Is that a cambridge audio streamer below that Kinki amp? If so, how does it sound?
yes, I already reivewed it, it's the MXN10.
Good evening.
My long-term plan was to get three pairs of speakers. 1 forward, 1 neutral, and 1 warm. After hearing this review I'm questioning that plan. Granted these are closer to 4 or 5 pairs in price, and would take much longer to save up for, but I am intrigued.
I am asking for your personal opinion. Would you rather have 1 pair of superior speakers, or would you get more enjoyment from a trio of solid $2k-$4k speakers to match your mood?
that's a tough question, I usually prefer to have 1 really nice item over multiple lesser items but $ 2-4k speakers are pretty darn amazing. I think you should book a demo so you can see if the upgrade is worth it for you or not.
Thank you sir. I was totally one of the people watching for entertainment, and by the end, I was ready to make these the center of my rig. Mounting the crossover in the stand is genius.@@NemoPropaganda
I think there are a few speakers in between the speakers you mentioned here that offer performance commensurate for their price, say between 5 to 8K. So, a price point for everyone to enjoy what listening to both music and movies offer.
Closer Acoustics OGY. Seriously. It doesn’t have Andrew Jones name on it (nor JBL, Klipsch, Focal, Wilson, Zu…) so nobody cares.
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q Cute little speaker in a size I prefer myself. Didn't know about this one. Blumenhofer also has a small speaker some like alot.
they also ignored my email for a review sample so I don't think they really care either.
absolutely, the Mon Acoustics Platimon at $6500 is much closer to these Serblins than they are to a Buchard S400.
I also liked your review of the Super Mon Mini speakers. When I am ready, I will look at speakers in that price point and up to $3K but for now, I use ML 15i and Dali Opticon 1s nearfield on Keces E40 integrated amps and both are fine performers for what they are. Perhaps all I really need but we'll see.
The new Choco integrated also looks interesting. I have a Hegel but no longer want or need behemoth and heavy equipment. Small but high performance equipment is a target and one that is not easily achieved finding synergy in making a smaller system that works well. But I am making a list of potentials.
@@NemoPropaganda
How are they compared to the Kanta No 1 (if you still own them)?
I sold the Kanta No1 only 5 days ago, the Serblin are on another level overall with more sepparation, more natural midrange, better base extension, and just as much detail but without sounding forced. The Kanta are no longer relavent in my opinion now that the Platimon exist, they do everything better and for less money. I will review them soon.
It will be nice if you could review the Marten Parker Duo
I have not heard of those but very few companies will send expensive products to a small channel like mine. John Hunter from REL stepped in and got me hooked up with this brand because he loved the speakers so much he said I had to experience them. Boy was he right!!
@@NemoPropaganda yes they are very good fun speakers. I heard them on my local dealer and I was very impressed with their huge sound stage
Since you liked the Heco speakers, then try to get the Belladonna. Very interesting model, but not much info or its in german :P
what's up bro, so I saw those but currently they are not available in the US, only Aurora and Celan are available here currently. Hopefully that will change in the future.
I found them a bit boring with Mark Levinson, but could be the combination. Comperison with the Borresen x1 would be interesting.
yeah, the sound of these is not spicy or exciting like a Focal or B&W, it's more cohesive so it just depends what kind of listener you are. This is not a speaker for the detail focused customer, more for the tone focused customer.
heeey, just a small question I do have, I have a 30m2 ( 323ft² ) room and would thies be "too small for that" I will have them like 2.5 meter betewem them and would sit around 2.5m-3m away from the speaker?. Dont know if you can answere it though but amazing viedo! :)
given the price of the speakers and how personal listening habits, music choice, and associated equipment can affect things I strongly suggest you talk to the dealer about these concerns. Some peoples listening habits simply demand towers, while other people can get away with using smaller speakers. I think for most people the Accordo will be fine in a room like that but I strongly suggest you get the with dealer and have a conversation about this to be 100% sure.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for relpy I did have a chat with a dealer actuly and he did tell that 30m2 should not be a problem for them with the music I listin to the most ( jazz,acustik and classical music ) and as we did talk about, a sub or 2 can always come later. Though we was a little diffent in amps though, he stronly did advice me to never ever use any Hegel amps with thies speakers, but only head good thinks about it so yea, the only way to test that out would be trying some diffent amps ad home. But thanks for the amazing viedo sir!.
@@venosepticgaming3864 glad the vid was helpful for you! I think the speaker will sound okay with a Hegel but if I was going to own the speaker and really wanted to get the bet out of it I think I'd consider something by Luxman.
@@NemoPropaganda Oh yea haha Luxman diffently a goal upgrade for the future!! and welcome, I always stop by your channel to see them reviews! But to start I will pair them with a 2000-3000 dollor amp
@@venosepticgaming3864 nothing wrong with that, if you need to keep the amp budget low consider the CHoco EMEI. It's $1700 and it's sound quality is on par with anything I've heard around $4k territory.
I'm sure these are very fine speakers but more expensive isn't necessarily the best sound for your ears. It would be interesting for you to review a pair of Audiovector R1 Arrete with the grounding cables to compare. I think in total would be around 6500U.S Dollars, but they punch well above their price tag for sound quality. I challenge you to get a pair in to compare. 🙂
you're challenging the wrong person, you have to challenge the dealer to send me a pair for review :), I've tried already, no luck.
@@NemoPropaganda that's such a shame, as I'm sure they would compete with these speaker, be it in their own way. The big problem I have with high end speakers with such lavish cabinets is the fact that the cabinet build will be probably 2/3 the cost of the whole speaker. The Audiovectors have a very nice finish to them but without the high expenses of building them. It would have been interesting to see a comparison review of these two speakers. Maybe you could reach out to a local who already has a pair of Audiovector R1 Arrete's? I know CZcams car reviewer's do this if dealers won't lend them a car. Just a thought mate. Enjoy your reviews btw. 👍
@@steverees1936 I would not feel comfortable using someone elses gear unless I knew them extremely well.
I'm new to your channel, is Monitor audio 500 worth buying, are they similar to Klipsch Reference 800 towers
whats up rerun, I'm not huge into towers so it's hard to really answer that. They're similar in that they're both a bit more forward in the treble and more detailed but I have not heard either tower version, only book shelves.
@@NemoPropaganda what's your favorite sub under 1K, is it loud and powerful
@@BoRerunn if you want the loudest and most powerful sub under $1k it's this one: czcams.com/video/1ZZGQlImNEQ/video.htmlsi=LLokI3Rrz-AQbtUS
Monitor Audio has rich midrange, big and wide soundstage. Also imaging is much better than Klipsch. Monitor Audio is less picky with amps, and have to say that build quality is better on MA than Klipsch too. Hope that helps!
@@ivanfilatov7913 rich midrange from monitor audio? You must have a special pair.
How’s the back? Did you read the book?
I finished the book yesterday, I didn't like it, it made me angry, my ego felt bruised by it but, I related tremendously and I'm giving the idea an honest go. The book described my ailments exactly, I suffer from all the things the author mentioned. I was not abused as a child nor do I think I have any supressed rage per se but I do have an extremely demanding job and lots of responsibility that can feel crushing at times so I think I may suffer from TMS. I'm practicing fighting my thoughts and telling myself I am not injured, I've stopped using special pillows or any accomodations I'm used to. We'll see what happens :).
I thought they might be hard to drive being 4 ohm and having a sensitivity of 87, but you say no they aren't?
they're small speakers with excellent bass so naturally you will want to put quality power behind them no matter what since bass can soak up power pretty quickly but I did not feel I had to dig into the volume knob to get appreciable volume out of them hence, not hard to drive in my opinion. Hope that helps clarify things.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the reply!
Pair serblin accordo with good SET amp 300b and you will be surprised how will they sound. Great speakers , i enjoy them over a year and still can't get enough of them.
oh yeah, I'm fairly confident I did not find the limits of their performance with the amplification I had on hand.
That is an absolute horrrible advice. Not only because what Franco Serblin said about amplification needed for them and I quote 'Let me clarify some issues related to amplification for the Accordo. These speakers have been designed to be as transparent and dynamic as possible. In order to successfully achieve this objective I have used a unique woofer with a long-stroke diaphragm and low resistance bass-reflex loading designed to offer the best impulse response. Although the Accordo can be driven by any amplifier, we recommend amplifiers with low output impedance and medium output power (40-70wpc into 8Ω and 80-150wpc into 4Ω). Too much power may result in excessive cone excursion and deterioration of signal quality. If we use the Accordo with a tube or Mosfet amplifier with high output impedance we may end up with not fully optimal bass control and again encounter uncontrolled cone travel. Needless to say that tube amps are generally not too good in this regard. I personally use the Einstein integrated amplifier which is nice sounding but without bass as good as transistor amps." - Sincerely, Franco Serblin' but also because 300 b set amps are not ment to be paired with speakers with 4ohm impendance and such low sensitivity
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Please try 300b SET with them if you have a chance.
@@grandekevin4065 That 6 Moons review was a surprise :(
Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?
wise words as always!
No one likes my opinions like I do. @@NemoPropaganda
Looking forward to the Choco review. Huff almost passed out from excitement
@@fletchermunson6225 it's pretty small, if you want to swing by and grab it for a week or so I'm sure we could work that out, you live pretty close.
Thanks Nemo. I really appreciate the offer but got some things going on in my personal life that take precedent over audio. Thanks again for your generous offer. @@NemoPropaganda
So what you're saying is they are not on special 40's level ;)
I don't know what part of the review you're referring to but I don't think I said that.
I’d love to own something like this one day. And also now I have to go find someone who will let me drive their 900hp car….😢
Man, if you are not Jewish I will be surprised or maybe you lived in Brooklyn...you sounds so Jewish.....almost like my Rabbi..... nice review!!..and you are so right, old smashing pumpkins sound so harsh!...you are so corrct, many times speakers can have such a huge amount of detail, that reveals way more that what we need, losing cohesion and giving you fatigue and confusion.
I was raised to believe I was muslim my whole life, when my grandmother on my mothers side died my uncle gave the Eulogy, his closing words: "may this jewish woman rest in peace", I talked to him afterwards and apparantly my family had been lieing about being muslim for years, in Iran being Jewish wasn't safe for a long time so they lied for years and it was a secret. They moved to America in the 80's and just kept the lie going for decades. So, while I don't consider myself jewish I suppose I am in some ways.
@@NemoPropagandaWow, this is amazing, what you wrote gave me goosebumps... I felt that you are so Jewish, the way you talk and how you express yourself was so evident that there was something Jewish about you... this is an amazing story Nemo. maybe there are some metaphysical aspects that has to be dug
@@bluematrix5001 there are always metaphysical aspects, are we physica or are we spiritual creatures during the physical part of our journey? Who knows...
@@NemoPropaganda thank you for sharing that Nemo 🙏
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for sharing that! Kinda reminds me of Springsteen....he grew up 'Catholic' but his ancestral background is Jewish 😚
I don’t know that you could even call these bookshelves, unless you put the stand on the bookshelf too. Lol
perhaps standmount is a more appropriate name :)
porsche is wolrds ahead in many aspects compared to huayra, pagani is more of a peice of art, porsche is precise machine, with built in imperfection from which they created theyre biggest selling point, pls, dont talk about porsche like dat, they are truly on of a kind
Dude, a 2011 base 911 cannot compete with a 2011 huayra. Stop this madness. Some of you guys don’t realize how old the Huayra is and how much the 911 has changed in the past 10 years. A 2011 911 is not on the same level.
@@NemoPropaganda you're absolutely right about that,I did not realise that, yet still, I'm quite sure that Porsche is still way more of a drivers car, that's what zonda were heavenly about, my point prob was that a word "compete" can't really be used between these car's, they're for ppl with completely different preferences. One point- I'm absolutely blown away how quickly uve replied, huge props for that. Thank you for everything you're doing 🙏
@@NemoPropaganda important point, I haven't driven either car, I'm just parroting what I've heard many many times.
No Pagani is better than a 911. Are you kidding with that comment? The 911 has one of the best chassis for handling. A Pagani wouldn’t be able to keep up with a 911 on the bends. That comment was hysterical.
I said 911, not 992.1 911 GR3RS on shaved tires & race fuel. I was referring to two good products with a massive price disparity of the same era. Meaning base 911 of the time the Huayra came out (2011).
Tempting. But is concerned with Italy made products as their products are not reliable.
I wouldn't buy an italian car but I own Italian furniture and it has been extremely good to me, I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush. Every country makes some junk and some great stuff too :)
Ferrari are great until one is in a parking lot with speed bumps. Expensive Speakers? A lot like that.
Keep away from kids and pets, lol.
I don't think people who have Ferrari's hang out much in parking lots with speed bumps, or if they do they are probably careful about going over speed bumps
I don't get the analogy. You get expensive speakers. Set them up properly. Enjoy. They are the least maintenance high dollar thing I own.
On the other hand... The Italian things I own with engines are definitely another story. Still love them. But high maintenance is the understatement
@@erics.4113I think he meant if you pair these speakers with lesser electronics. Those electronics are the speed bumps.
@@hifiman4562 ahh ok! Thanks for clearing it up. Totally went past me earlier when I was reading it
They make sound Faber look boring
What I have to say here I want no one to take aback by it or get angry about it but to spend twelve to fourteen thousand dollars on a pair of small bookshelf speakers.. only be $25,000 a year.. and mother Mary herself couldn't sell these to me for that price no way.. I bet you the cost to build these including inspection re-inspection carefully boxing them up and shipping them.. he's nowhere near would you expect.. if you had a little talent and availability to work with wood and various other materials.
You could easily DIY these.. or something extraordinarily similar.. for about 16 hours a person of time into two-wheeled effort.. and around 800 us for the parts.. I've got a buddy of mine who used to build speakers into exotic materials from the mid-1970s to about nineteen eighty-six before he passed away.. unless you're making an effort million bucks a year there's no way you're going to spend twelve to fourteen thousand dollars on a pair of bookshelf s.. again I apologize in the beginning of this comment only because it gets to the point of absolutely ridiculous audio equipment is not jewelry or some piece of eclectically one-of-a-kind art.. speakers get to the point of unbelievably being ridiculous I swear.. 412 Grand I can build another room on my house.. I could put a nice big comfy hot tub and pool in my backyard or even in my basement for that matter 12 to $14,000 no problem.. and I bet you I'd still have something left to build a small bar with enough booze beer and food, to entertain at least a half-a-dozen friends for the whole weekend.. including that lovely external tobacco that we all enjoy so much.
I think there are a few exaggerations in your statement but look, I wouldn't spend $30k on a watch, my phone tells the time just fine but my friends that have Rolex, Patek, and AP are very happy with their purchases. Everyone has different priorities, nothing wrong with that.
too rich for my blood
it's a luxury item for sure :)