When old tech is better than new
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Really happy with this video. Wanted to talk about the Parrot Zik and the Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin on here for ages, too. Thanks for watching!
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Audio devices never gets outdated
@@juanxcruzx they certainly age slower than most tech yeahh, it continues to amaze me how people will just buy the newest shite
Unless people buy AirPods or similar non battery-replaceable earphones…
Except airpods
And HomePod
@@DailyDoseOfMemes691The first ever homepod from 2017 still gets updates and will continue to for at least a year.
anything with a headphone jack and expandable storage >
And easily replaceable battery
@@DailyDoseOfMemes691 we kinda kissed that goodbye a long long time ago sad is the state of tech these days
God bless my LG V60
"Loud Fucker" for the B&W Zeppelin Air is an amazing name. Will use. Lmao.
The only issue with using old tech like phones, tablets, or even computers is that if the software isn't being updated anymore, you really shouldn't connect them to the internet. Unpatched security holes can cause all kinds of issues, not only for yourself, but also other people.
that is if you don't know how security works, you can easily use old devices, especially mobile ones, as "non primary devices" connected to the internet if you know what you do. If you don't yes, stay away from the internet
The biggest issue is that modern software is so bloated, technically we wouldn't need more RAM or processing power on our phones (messaging, some Instagram/Facebook, taking a few pictures were all fine 10 years ago). Devs just don't optimize their stuff anymore or fill it with unnecessary crap. I remember 10 years ago apps were usually 5-15mb big when downloading from the Play Store, now most apps are atleast 80-100mb
There was a time people were actually trying to solve problems. Then, the sustainability model kicked in, it's very essence is to sustain the problem, thereby the business.
I think this is a delusion. This model has always existed, we just talk about some products that were made well. This is survivorship bias.
@@J4ckC4ver That's the sustainability model: Survive by sustaining the problem.
@@J4ckC4ver There's growing numbers of products that have just been effectively bricked because the company just decided to kill the server critical for use and wouldn't provide any other options for people to provide their own.
I like videos about older tech... especially from 2000's and 2010's
@@teddy0139 me too!
older tech is normally at vw westlife channel youtube.com/@vwestlife?si=yOthrlVMHjqJAeYC
Yes more of this content! I have some kartell Philippe stark stools and this vid makes me want to dig more into his product design catalog
I use an Apple 30 inch Cinema Display from 2004. The picture quality is still fantastic and is sharper than most computer monitors sold in stores today. It has fantastic colours and I have no reason to upgrade it. It has a beautiful design aswell and still looks modern on my desk. I also have a Sony mini Hi-Fi system from 2000 that still works flawlessly and sounds amazing. With an AirPort Express it feels like a new speaker with airplay streaming. Crazy how long old tech lasts
I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on an old Apple Cinema Display, I see them on Craigslist all the time for under $150 usually and sometimes even free.
@@Strongo it uses a lot of power but oh my is the picture quality good. The colours are great and it’s really sharp. I have it connected to a thunderbolt 2 dock with a Mini DisplayPort connector. I then use the dual link dvi adapter that apple makes to connect it to the dock. I then use a thunderbolt 2/3 adapter to connect it to my 2021 MacBook Pro. It works a treat. Try and look for a cheap one, I got mine for $80 AUD on Facebook marketplace
Those apple cinemas were and still are great for color rendition. Nothing quite superseded them. There's better resolution now but that thing still looks great imo.
@@BrianGon89 yep they are fantastic. Don’t see myself buying a new monitor anytime soon. The combination of build quality and picture quality is perfect. 1440p is still plenty of resolution for my needs
I still use my iPhone 5c every day as an offline podcast device. because the OS doesn't update it means that the podcast app doesn't update either, and it's the most recent version that still has the playlist function (I have no idea what moron thought it was a good idea to remove playlists from a podcast app!).
I need to replace the headphone jack (it cuts out at the slightest of movements) and the screen (it's cracked at the top, but not in any way that affects usability) but they are both fairly easy fixes.
And I've got a couple of old laptops that do a great job of ripping CDs using DBPowerAmp to FLAC and ALAC at the same time.
My iPhone 5 is my dedicated audio device 😆 and it was the first camera for my channel. Love it to death.
I got a 5s that blew it's battery but the screen and headphone jack are good. Since it's now only collecting dust, I'd happyly mail it if you are interested
@@MrManniG thank you for the kind offer, but I've already got the replacement parts, it's more just finding the energy/motivation to actually do the work. Thank you though.
I am confused, I have a playlist in the podcast app. I can even add songs from Music to it
@@J4ckC4ver the apple podcast app swapped from playlists to Stations, which (from my understanding, as I haven't used them since I wasn't able to do basic playlist functions when I first tried, and never used it again) tries to be more automated and tries to sort it for you. I did a quick search to see if they had added the functionality back in, but it seems (as of this time last year) stations are still the work around for not having playlists in the Apple podcast app. Not sure how you've got playlists in the up to date apple podcast app, but I'm happy with using my old phone just for podcasts.
I still use my old Apple products (iPod Hi-Fi, older iPod models, iPhones, iPad, etc) they still work and fun to use.
They are old but they are more special than the current models.
I mean using old tech that is rare and legendary is kinda cool thing I guess.
Great video as always.
I would like to see more older stuff in the future.
@@MrCooper83 thanks man, appreciate the comment.
Yeah I think there’s a bit more love for these older devices coming thru slowly these days…
@@montaguebarnabasltd cool, cant wait!
My father has a pair of headphones from the 80’s. Still working absolutely fine. Most of his audio stuff is from 30-40 years ago. My mother’s fridge is almost 30 years old. Things back then used to be tough.
I remember looking at a home that had original central air unit and kitchen appliances that were circa 1992. We didn't get the house because we were dealing with the executor of an estate, which happened to be an attorney, who kept insisting on a larger than 20% down payment on the home.
However, I remember telling my wife that we wouldn't update the appliances or the central ai unit as it lasted this long, and it'll last longer than whatever we replace it with.
Admittedly a 30 year old fridge is going to use like twice as much energy to do the same job of keeping food cold. But I'll definitely take a 30 year old dishwasher, clothes washer or dryer, those things have done increasingly worse and slower jobs in the name of progress.
If you upgrade to a newer mini for reading. Get a mini 2 or 3. They’re dirt cheap now. $60-$80 US. They have Retina Displays and faster performance.
@@JasonTech77 yeahh I’ll keep that in mind ty
Or even mini 4
Audio, audio never changes
Integrated Dacs, integrated speakers, 24 bit streaming says otherwise.
if we talk wired ones, then yes, but if we talk wireless earbuds there is always room for improvement for BT conection, already ldac, lhdc V and even samsung seamless codecs uhq can hit 24 bit 92khz and over 1000 bits over bt, so people love to upgrade to better quality stuff
I also have a 30 year old Sony stacking HiFi system with Pioneer speakers, all working. Bought at a boot sale or Rastro here in Spain for 20 euros 10 years ago
I remember that B&W when I worked at Apple. Looked really good on the sales floor. Was way out of my price range. God I loved how it looked and sounded though.
Unbelievable how you can just pull out the battery out of these headphones. People from 2012 were thinking in completely different terms.
If it works, don't replace it! My home computer setup uses altec lansing speakers from the 90's, and an old conference room ClearOne microphone for discord calls, and my keyboard and mouse is a 2007 logitech Wave. Even my computer itself is still chugging along 6ish years later. A lot of hardware takes ages before becoming obsolete.
I really like the idea of cherishing what you have instead of constantly needing to update. One suggestion for the Zeppelin, have you considered buying an AirPort Express to add Airplay 2 to the speaker?
@@davidbos488 yes! Thank you for the comment. I’ve considered it, just waiting for a good deal…
So much tech reached their peak. WYKYK
Almost any fridge from 1990s or older is better than the new ones.
Just dont go too far back or else you'll have a lead issue
It is like the LC 500. It was so futuristic in 2016-18 (or whenever the design came out) that it still looks modern now.
Yeah that’s helped largely by the fact that Lexus didn’t change too much from the LF-LC concept, thus it still does look like a real life concept car. Lovely car and sound if you opt for the 5 litre V8!
I drive a 13 yr old car. Works fine. My IPhone is now a mini wi-fi tablet and pocket camera - it’s a 2016 model. My phone is a 2007 Samsung. Works fine, good battery life - and it’s only used as a phone. Hi-fi? Ranges in age from 55 yrs old (turntable) through 40 yrs old (CD player) to 25-30 yrs old - amp and speakers. All work great, with minimal maintenance required. TV - 25 yrs old - works fine. All of this stuff I keep using because it’s really well built (some of the hi fi gear is ridiculously over engineered), and I see absolutely no need to upgrade any of it. I have to use more modern stuff for work - and without exception, all of it has been overly complicated and unreliable. My work laptop has been back with the manufacturer for over a year with an unknown fault they keep failing to fix, and my work smartphone (a Samsung) makes a great paperweight, but a useless smart phone.
Sounds like my grandma talking about online banking. I think the world has moved fast, even only the last 5 years. And i think it’s great. I’ve been investing in new tech the last 2 years and I have the best Tech-experience ever. The only flaw is that it should be more easy to switch batteries in the devices.
I’ve just learned this. My Sonos Beam (4 years old) went down after the big internet outage. There’s no ability to use it without an internet connection .. absolute madness as it’s just a speaker connected via a cable. There is no physical reset button on the device, the plug is hardwired to the back of the device, it won’t reconnect and the only option is to unplug it.. and the plug is behind a built in outlet that I’ll need to disassemble to get into it. Sonos have automatically been removed from my list of companies I’d purchase from ever again because if they ever go out of business or drop support for devices you can no longer use.. a wired speaker. No need for this.
@@MT-cd7cs Christ alive. That’s pretty poor. Thanks for the comment
While old overear headphones might still be good, IEM technology has drastically improved. Old IEM can't compete with the new one.
The oldest piece of tech I use is my keyboard on my home desk setup, I use an IBM Model M13 buckling spring keyboard manufactured in 1998, although the Model Ms actually go back much older than that to the mid 1980s. It's amazing to type on and is by far my favourite keyboard I own. It works perfectly on any modern PC or Mac just as long as you get an active PS/2 to USB adapter which I have. Currently typing this comment on it using an Apple Silicon Mac and it works great. It lacks a Windows key, so you do have to change the modifier keys in macOS to make it work but that's easy to do and tbh it's worth it for the excellent typing feel the buckling springs provide.
I have a few other older things in my setup, I use a pair of Logitech 2.1 speakers that are about 20 or so years old that still work great, as well as a Sony video camera I use for my own CZcams videos I've owned for almost 10 years that still looks, sounds and functions perfectly as if it were brand new. My rule is that I'll only replace something if it breaks or is somehow no longer compatible anymore.
Great vid, I’m still using the following daily:
1. iPad mini 2 (2013) for video calls and as a stream deck to my pc .
2 Technika desk speakers from Tescos (2005)
3 Kindle Reader (2016)
Great video. Subscribed.
Didn't expect to see Sapiens in such a video 😅
My device of that kind is the iPod nano 6g. I still use it when going for a run. And it works just as it’s supposed to. It plays music and counts my steps (and gives me an estimate how far I ran). I love that little iPod :)
the oldest thing on my desk is a belinea crt screen, its plugged into a doc for my laptop, i cant describe how nice it is to watch movies on that thing, especially jurrassic park is great, love these movies
Audio is one of those things if done well it's good doesn't matter the era, there still is some incredible 70's hi-fi audio systems and even 80's headphones so it's no surprise the audio devices you showed aged so well, we figured out what makes audio good a long time ago, the newer stuff they say it's an upgrade ends up being all smoke and mirrors.
Swappable batteries is my Roman Empire I might have to pick up a pair of those parrots
@@MonkeyChopOfficial you won’t regret it :)
I’m no longer updating my iPhone software yearly, these new updates just make the battery life shit on older devices
The zeppelin is definitely on my list for old tech I rather use now than new ones
Technology has been great for a long time. This video proves that it pays off to invest in good equipment. But also, as you probably know very well - Tech has moved a long way since 2012 and we are just now witnessing the first looks of the next «era» of common tech. I think the next generation will make a big gap between tech now and tech later.
i've owned so many pairs of Parrot headphones (each generation) but they all became dust after a few years of use cause the fake leather is trash and we can see this problem on yours as well. They sounded good, the Zik 3 sounded better than the AirPods Max in my opinion. Their biggest issue is the only 5 hours of battery, the Zik 3 can get digital audio from USB and be charged by the computer you have them plugged in whilst you listen to them, a feature i wish AirPods Max, 6 years later, had.
Imagine being able to swap batteries… smh
I use an original EOS 5D for photography alongside a range of lenses from the 80s and 90s. It takes phenomenal stills and I will upgrade when it stops working. I love it.
It is almost 20 years old.
Brilliant! I use an EOS 40D from a couple years after. Really solid little things.
I have the newer wired apple keyboard from about 15 years ago and use it at work. It’s got a really small footprint, made of aluminum, has the same 2 usb ports and has never missed a beat
I went and bought a used set of Audeze Penrose headphones last summer. Knew that the battery would eventually be poo poo, but the deal was just too good to pass on. That and I'd JUST gotten into planar magnetic videos on CZcams 🤫 lol. Anywho, earlier this year i hit up their customer support to see what (if anything) could be done to revive these to their former heights of glory. They told me there's nothing they could do as the company (cuz they were well beyond their warranty period).... Buttttttt, the kind man on the phone explained how easy it would be to do a replacement, told me details about the battery, and told me how the part would be easy to find on AliExpress.
Just thought I'd share so that folks can be aware that companies sometimes actually do think about us folks who plan to use their products for quite some time. And Audeze (at least prior to the Sony deal) was one of them.
And yes people, i found the battery and successfully completed the surgery 💪😎 ..and ill keep doing it for as long as i can find suitable parts.
I own Numark iDj 2 and I absolutely love it. It is just about playing from two or one pandrives and it has everything you need for home djing. It’s so old but it has enough quality and very comfy to add tracks and play
I'm using Koss headphones with a lifetime guarantee, I could still get spare parts for Koss Pro4AA from the 1970s (If I still had them)
Is there a way to use the parrot zik app on pc ??
I just bought that 2003 Mac keyboard brand new. I love it. Works flawlessly. I took off that plastic base and it looks way better
Listening to this during my evening walk on B&W Pi5. I still own and actively use B&W PX. Great pair of headphones.
and Aim at the end, great video man.
Very tempted to get a Zeppelin Air. Reviews for it when new were extremely positive.
Also, the white Apple keyboard is definitely a classic.
Your choice of music is stellar lol
@@CannedFunkMusic oh hell yeah. Thank you!!
7:09 need to find that, it is familiar to me and was the start of a really good soulful house mix I heard long ago.
OMG the nostalgia. love this vid.
I love the older headphones from BeyerDynamics, they are still used extensively in audio studio's. I also noted your MacPro, same here used in combination with Open Core to have the latest MacOS!
@@JohanDee hell yeah. Yeah I’m doing a history of the Mac Pro video soon I hope!
I still use my old Altec Lansing ACS340 even right now two speakers with a subwoofer I believe I bought in late 90's or 2000 and they still function perfectly.
Great video. The B&W Zeppelin looks interesting. I do own new tech but also older tech, like, iPad 3rd gen, iPod Touch old generation, iMac 27” 2010, Apple Wired Keyboard, Apple Magic Mouse 1st gen, and lots of music instruments that can be considered vintage.
@@emiel333 yeah some modern things merit a purchase. Some we have no choice but to buy!
@@montaguebarnabasltd I couldn’t agree more. Thank you for your kind reply!!
Sony MDR-7506 are the standard for studio monitor headphones and mine have been going for 15 years now, only had to replace the pads and that's using them daily. Pure quality.
Dang, imagine if they made it so all devices had replacable batteries. 😮💨
My entire home theatre system comprises of older tech. I have a 2012 av receiver, 2012 plasma, 2007 surround speakers and 2011 bluray player. I guarantee, my set up is much higher quality than most household shiny sound bars and 4k led tvs.
@@puglife6291 excellent, and I believe you. I intend to set up a 5.1 surround system with B&W and Wharfedale speakers in the coming year. Will have nothing newer than 2012 in the array!
@@montaguebarnabasltd sounds awesome, keep an eye out for jensen surround speakers they are great bang for buck and great subwoofers. Yamaha aventage receivers good too.
great video!
Passive speakers last forever. At my parents place they're using my dad's old B&O RL45's that were purchased in 1992 as rear channels. I used them up until 2015 too.
That headphone was interesting - loved the HRTF manipulation for back then! Being a headphone/virtual surround sound nerd I'm surprised I've never heard of it.
I find the Bose Soundlink Mini II is hard to replace for me. Nothing that has come since is an improvement the thing "just works". and has true stereo sound. I use it as a mini sound bar when travelling for hotel/airbnb TV's.
Hi, how do you make the background black and the text white on your iPad mini's PDF ? Thank you.
@@NOVAsteamed hey, thats a setting in Apple’s books app I believe.
SBC codec for the headphones?
Still using a Ipod Nano touch on the beach while reading a book in my vaction, don't need a phone with me otherwise it wouldn't be a vacation
My brother had a Zeppelin speaker and regretted getting rid of it.
Bose soundlink speakers are also awesome and you can pick up one from £50.
I still have my iMac G4 20", 1.2Ggb RAM and a 60Gb HD running OSX 10.5.8. Lots of things it can still do and it works. 2014 mac mini running OS 14.3 and an iPhone 6S Plus. Why do people always want the "latest and greatest"? If it works, why replace it
@@user-cl7cg8pe3u absolutely
@@montaguebarnabasltd SSH and SMB dont work anymore from 10.5.8 to OS 14.3, but webdavs does. So file transfers can happen. HTTPS websites can also be accessed. The old versions of Office and Adobe still do the job, yes slower, but the screen on the iMac is fantastic
i love the "loud fucker" name for the b&w zeppelin air
Parrot really fell off lately. Their mini drones were the best thing I ever and I still have the whole collection
@@ilbufalantdellefigurine4488 yeah I’m not sure what’s happened tbh
Starck couldn't design his way out of a paper bag. He is a product stylist ❤
I wish I'd kept an old iPad just to use as a Zork platform.
Also, what is the song that beings to play at 7:08 ?
@@NOVAsteamed in the description! It’s by 808Mystic.
Old tech is also more repairable most of the time. Even when it comes to Apple, Macs used to have easily swappable batteries and modular RAM and storage.
It’s a shame modern tech doesn’t have that anymore and most of the time is made cheaply, so long-term longevity is not great
watching from my favorite phone ever (iphone se 1st gen)
Thoroughly agree with this except for the keyboard - it's so squishy to type on. Mine has been in my cupboard since about 2008, it's the worst.
It does look nice though.
I had the Zik and sadly lost them one day.
Love the speaker name XD
I think its possible to replace microUSB ports on most of old tech with Type-C with some soldering and hole expanding. Idk if its worth it, but it sounds cool
Watching on my 2012 MacBook Pro (SSD and RAM upgraded) and still using my 2012 iPad (one of the first to use the Lightning cable) mainly as a portable media tablet via VLC. I also still have the first Zeppelin and use it.
@@jonsonby excellent!
3:30 getting an old Kindle / Kobo for cheap is a really good idea. They haven’t gotten much better and its just the e-ink screen you’d be using it for.
Still using my iPad mini, got a new one recently, and it’s miles better
I have heard the old Zeppelin is supposed to sound better than the newer models (which I own)
My laptop is a 2011 15" MBP that's still running for whatever reason (yeah, this is the one that's infamous for dgpu failures)
I've also been able to repurpose a 2009 27" imac as a display for my computer, and my S9+ is about 6 years old at this point. There's a few other older things I have that are still in service, but those are the most major ones.
While not tech, my stereo is still powered by a rotel RA-931 mkii from 1999. It's old, but still somehow works fine.
I must admit… apple taking away the home button on the iPad… why apple? Just why? It was so freakin’ useful!!
I have an old Jabra headset for work, about 15 years old. Fully integrated touch controlls, super light weight. Very high range. The new Jabra headsets my company offers are heavy and the connection gets lost when I get out if the room. The sound quallity sucks and the mute function doesn't work half the time.
Just replaced the batterie and the ear piece coushions (the leather wore down) for the old ones and they are as good as new.
Still have Sennheiser momentum 2's, which I upgraded from my
1's from years ago my dad now uses.
Just replaced the cables a couple of times
Love them to bits
Only thing on the headphones is the ear pads wearing out, looks like you will need some new ones soon.
Wired headphones - will have them for decades and will still be great.
Wireless headphones - invariably Bluetooth standards change and batteries fail.
I have the same mindset. I own an iPhone SE 3rd Gen (2022), 9th Gen iPad (2021) and Beats Studio 3s (2017). I purposely DID NOT buy the newest model at checkout. I enjoy the Home Button on both my iPhone & iPad and my Beats work just fine.
Mac os 9.0.4 never lets me down, Tiger Shuriken 10.4.12 is also strong. New things break before the older ones. My solder OC mac mini G4 seem to never dye. Hopefully there are people at Canon that enable both printing from appletalk and Airprint, so you get printing from 8.5.1 (1998) to iphone 15 on the same device at seconds of interval. Just a pun to explan that support is possible, if we want. I agree on this keyboard, as long as you like cleaning it. Never try to repair something that is not broken. Most updates or upgrades are a risk and a pain. Like wwhen apple removes php from mac os ... I sarted on windows after Mojave. Windows is quite good once debloated.
That Zeppelin was an absolute dream. It sounded stunning. Still regret ever selling mine. 🥲
I have a Bang and Olufsen beolit 12 from 2012.. got it from a pawnshop, the battery still holds and kicks ass of any jbl type portable speakers...
even my ipad 8th still works perfectly fine for me snd its not really old it only came out 2020 and its only 2024 this days and i still using it and its good
What’s the website that you show at the end of the video? Nice video btw!
Oh my mistake. It was from iFixit, who rate laptops on their repairability. Definitely should have mentioned that clearly!
You could buy a new bluetooth receiver to plug in to the speaker's 3.5mm jack so it won't have such a long delay
Amazing video brother🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@dprssd9313 aw thanks man
The B & W Zeppelin mini is a great USB speaker for close range. £30 from CeX in the UK 2nd hand, audio quality is exceptional - identical to big Zeppelin but minus the Subwoofer.. I also have a Zeppelin V1 and the airplay lightening Zeppelin model, which are exceptional speakers. Much more bass on the later versions. B & W only made the Zeppelin Air (in dock and lightning versions), Zeppelin mini and A7 with USB compatibility. ;)
I bought one of those zeppelin speakers at a boot sale for ten quid. Only negative is you need an old iPod or iPhone to alter the tone
@@mr.y.mysterious.video1 insane deal
Looks like the new Dyson headphones ❤
My 2013 MacBook Pro is still a beast
That’s why I buy expensive quality shit - it lasts forever. Until I replace it with a new “eternal” shit 😂
I've been using an iPod Touch 5th gen daily when I was at school, I also use my old iPad Air 1st gen and even though It's not old my Sony Wh-Ch510 is still a great device.
Using a square 5:4 monitor right now!
Its software that kills older devices now sadly because companies don’t want our devices to last long
My uncle has had these tiny speakers next to his TV the size of an apple watch for my whole life. To this day I can't understand how their sound quality sounds better than most modern soundbars
I’d be interested in hearing more about that lol. Cool either way
How can you mention old tech without mentioning Thinkpad?
@@kittenzrulz2314 just not a Windows fan. Will be doing a thinkpad vid fairly soon though!
I use a photo printer from 2004 and it honestly works better than most color printers from today
What's the outro song called? Heard it on a freestyle and it's been in my head since
@@bobmarley8000 it’s in the description. Yeah 808Mystic mixed it with Skepta’s WTV freestyle.