Ranking All Soldier Primaries From "Casual" To "Tryhard"

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • #tf2 #teamfortress2 #soldier
    Throughout my experience in TF2, ive foudn out that many types of players defult to certain weapons because it matches their prefered playstyle. Some of these playstyles are more casual and laidback, whilst others are more intense and tryhard-ish.
    So lets rank Soldier's primaries based on this criteria!
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - 0:29 Intro
    0:30 - 1:18 Casual ≠ Friendly, Tryhard ≠ Bad person
    1:19 - 2:43 Number 9 (Most Casual)
    2:44 - 4:13 Number 8
    4:14 - 5:50 Number 7
    5:51 - 6:51 Number 6
    6:52 - 8:15 Number 5
    8:16 - 9:19 Number 4
    9:20 - 11:04 Number 3
    11:05 - 12:45 Number 2
    12:46 - 16:03 Number 1 (Most Tryhard)
    16:04 - 16:40 Wrap Up & Disclaimers
    16:41 - 17:07 Outro
    Further explanations for my controversial positionings:
    Black Box: Yes, I am aware of the Tryhard Black Box Conch Soldiers that occasionally show up in pubs. But I am still confident in my Black Box placement due to the HUGE majority of Black Box Soldiers who have no clue what they're doing and are simply around to have a good time. Ask any Tryhard Terror-Watt 5000+ hours egotistical Tryhard Soldier for his opinion on the Black Box, and he'll say something along the lines of "Sacrificing the single Rocket isn't worth it"
    Beggars: So many Beggars Soldiers try to force it into being a viable, 20 clip Rocket Launcher. So few people use the Beggars, that this group of people are a large part of them. I was willing to bump it up higher on the list. So many people use the Black Box, but so few people use the Beggars. A negative group in the few are much larger than a negative group in the lots.
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  • @Lonqudor
    @Lonqudor  Před 19 dny +25

    A list like this is 100% subjective. My choices came from the opinions of my viewers, my experiences in TF2 and the playstyle the weapon encourages overall. You may disagree, that is absolutely fine.
    You may check the description for some further explanations of my choices. I recommend doing that before commenting.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 19 dny +3

      You WILD with those takes, except Original, that is 100% fax, I've yet to meet one original user, ESPECIALLY strange quality original user who isn't a tryhard.
      But still besides your original take, your other one's are wild, like ranking black box as most casual one, sure it is pretty casual, but MOST casual? Nah dawg, as a black box user, I've encountered tons of tryhard black box users, especially those who use gunboats for some reason

    • @artifactU
      @artifactU Před 14 dny

      @@danielsurvivor1372 i think some people just get told that gunboats are the best secondary so they equip it & forget about everything else they could be using, i personally love using banners with it since the banners are really good & the increased survivability lets me use banners more. also shotguns are nice but id just keep worrying that im not getting the healing if i used one

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny

      ​@@artifactU Also using shotguns kinda distracts you from getting those rocket shots so by having banners or gunboats you're forced to commit and learn

  • @MoonlyDarkness
    @MoonlyDarkness Před 19 dny +169

    Lon accidentally made soldier primary stereotypes video

  • @_kaorudreemurr
    @_kaorudreemurr Před 19 dny +116

    Black Box at Number 9 and Beggars at Number 3?
    Never let bro cook again

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 19 dny +35

      The beggars is a weapon tryhards try to force into viability, and often fail. But they still try. The black box on the other hand is used by so many people, that the tryhards are a very small part of them. The beggars is rarely used, so the group of tryhards who use it made a much larger splash on this list than the few tryhards who use the black box in an ocean of casual users

    • @jagagagaga
      @jagagagaga Před 19 dny +14

      @@Lonqudor ur gay lole

    • @gameingtothemax6266
      @gameingtothemax6266 Před 19 dny +12

      ​@@Lonqudormay I bring up crutch box? aka the black box and conch combo for people who *try hard* to not die. also half of the beggers players are just braindeadly spamming

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 19 dny +9

      He said that he didn't find tons of tryhards using it but I'm just baffled how he didn't saw em. I personally saw em a lot on harvest, usually tryhardy one's use gunboats since, I guess back in the day blackbox was the roamer meta weapon idk

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 19 dny +2

      ​@@gameingtothemax6266 Nah it's not a crutch, but I do agree with you that blackbox has way more tryhards then he lets on, trust me, I run blackbox alot and see others use it too and not all of them are as chilly as me 😅

  • @BonesInBroth
    @BonesInBroth Před 19 dny +55

    You putting the Black Box as the "most casual launcher" is interesting to me because the ONLY times I whip it out is when I need to buckle my fuckle and bunker down because my team is losing and I could use the extra sustain, only occasionally being switched out for the Beggars + Conch if I just NEED that extra burst damage and there is no med.
    It's also kinda interesting that the Beggars is so far into the "tryhard" territory because I personally much prefer the Beggars for when I'm messing around because overload jumping and sync bombing poor people with the 2 other loaded rockets or going for a massive garden is some of the most fun you can have on Soldier (imo)

    • @Ruru_desu
      @Ruru_desu Před 19 dny +8

      Honestly I think the Beggars' is more casual than Black Box, since most of the players who use the Bazooka are just trying to mess around and have fun just like you said (Doesn't mean they can't pubstomp with it though)

    • @mrstudent9125
      @mrstudent9125 Před 19 dny +1

      Beggar is tryhard because it has a steep learning curve

    • @bloonbrawler9872
      @bloonbrawler9872 Před 18 dny

      ​@@mrstudent9125 yes

    • @jackhumphries1087
      @jackhumphries1087 Před 17 dny +1

      I had a similar experience when he put the beggars in 3rd, since whenever I put that thing on I’m usually memeing with either the righteous bison or the escape plan

  • @AncientFire
    @AncientFire Před 19 dny +18

    As someone that never plays soldier, I keep mixing the cow mangler and the pomson up all the time, to the point where I am genuinely confused whenever someone says they like it.

  • @ldunnoknow
    @ldunnoknow Před 19 dny +51

    I dont i think have a heard worse take on the beggars

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 18 dny +2

      Or Black Box and I say it as Black Box user 😅. I'm usually chill with it but I saw so many tryhards with it and sometimes even I try hard with it instead of switching to roamer loadout

    • @gudmansal3468
      @gudmansal3468 Před 17 dny +4

      @@danielsurvivor1372 i think the blackbox one was fine since literally everyone uses the blackbox

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny

      ​@@gudmansal3468 Do they? Considering how many people complain about Black Box and Conch combo you'd think not everyone uses it or else they wouldn't complain about it 😅

    • @gudmansal3468
      @gudmansal3468 Před 14 dny +2

      @@danielsurvivor1372 not the combo im talking about but ive seen plenty of blackbox soldiers in casual

  • @spookyman6853
    @spookyman6853 Před 19 dny +14

    For me the list would be
    9:rocket jumper
    8:cow Mangler
    7:beggers
    6:air strike
    5: liberty launcher
    4:black box
    3: direct hit
    2: stock
    1: original
    And black box being considered most casual, hell even more casual then beggers is questionable.

    • @frog2098
      @frog2098 Před 19 dny +1

      this is so real you could not be more right

    • @tehesprite502
      @tehesprite502 Před 18 dny +2

      Yeah that's definitely way more correct than lon's list lmao.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny +2

      Yep, and I say it as a guy who used black box a ton and a guy who fought black box users.
      We're perfectly in the middle, we either have goofiest chillies people or most tryhard ones 😅

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny +1

      I think rocket jumper deserves place as most casual only if by casual you mean nobody tries hard to win the match, but the Lon seems to be using different definition of tryhard so I think for his link it makes sense it's a bit higher.

  • @kirbysuperstardeluxe9889
    @kirbysuperstardeluxe9889 Před 19 dny +7

    lmao im the guy who rolled up to you in the uncletopia match and said "ayo speak if u the real lon'qudor" and then u did, glad to see u featured 1 clip of me being eviscerated by a crit rocket (im panchizo)

  • @Lawlz4Dayzz
    @Lawlz4Dayzz Před 19 dny +22

    Black Box is Tryhard because it isnt a fun weapon. Its purely for the healing to win. Its mainly used by Tryhards in the immortal soldier loadout. Very rarely is it used otherwise except maybe the battalions backup.

    • @revoltaiignoto3881
      @revoltaiignoto3881 Před 19 dny +8

      I can't land a hit for my life, so I use black box to not die inmediatly. I just want to play more, not wait in respawn.

    • @jblazerndrowzy
      @jblazerndrowzy Před 19 dny +3

      I just combo it with a shotgun so that I can play aggressively with the self-sustain

  • @mistercue
    @mistercue Před 19 dny +11

    I like the original for its sounds, not for the rockets in the center

  • @D1AntOnly
    @D1AntOnly Před 19 dny +6

    ngl the only reason why i use the beggars is for the overloading mechanic, rocket jumping is the most fun soldier mechanic imo

  • @darkclem2531
    @darkclem2531 Před 19 dny +6

    the black box?
    The most casual?
    I think we are not playing the same game lol

    • @Ervonesque
      @Ervonesque Před 19 dny

      Black Box got it's legs on both #1 and #9, depends on it's user's secondary

    • @darkclem2531
      @darkclem2531 Před 19 dny

      @@Ervonesque trust me, 80% of the Time, its the conqueror

  • @user-ge4er5lz7b
    @user-ge4er5lz7b Před 19 dny +11

    The "Im salty from getting stomped by original soldiers" tier list

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 19 dny +4

      Everything I said was true though

    • @anonymoushumankind
      @anonymoushumankind Před 16 dny +1

      @@Lonqudor dude really went to town on us, sorry I use a certain weapon in a video game

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 Před 15 dny

      ​@@Lonqudor🤓

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny +4

      ​@@anonymoushumankind Ngl, Original stereotype is the one one that is actually almost 100% correct, I very rarely found any chill original users xD. Although I don't mind le dicc jokes, just wish y'all would chill out playing 😅

    • @Tann3rr
      @Tann3rr Před 4 dny

      Look at the poles lmao

  • @3cne
    @3cne Před 19 dny +4

    I never took airstrike seriously until I came across a pubstomping as chad in 2fort. I mean he literally pull out rocket jumps in narrow rooms of 2fort and bombed the s___ out of us in mere second in the air, and he paired it with Battle's Battalion and a pocket medic and was literally unstoppable.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 Před 14 dny

      Battalion? Now that's weird, I'd get buff banned cuz it helps mitigate dmg penalty but damn, battalion huh? 😅

    • @3cne
      @3cne Před 14 dny

      @@danielsurvivor1372 I prefer buff banner too, I'm just not gud enough to take good advantage of battalion. Maybe it actually did help the team survive, instead of getting frags, but I have no way to know that.

  • @FourByteBurger
    @FourByteBurger Před 19 dny +5

    As a black box user, i personally rank it as "chill, but wanna win" since that's how i personally use it, i enjoy playing the game and i like it to be somewhat easier due to the health on hit, but i also like to push the objective and whatnot, so I'd probably put it more towards the middle of the list

    • @IH8Reflorished
      @IH8Reflorished Před 16 dny

      I thought he said that was the definition of casual.

  • @ModeDriver
    @ModeDriver Před 19 dny +4

    By the videos definition of tryhard, the buffalo steak sandwich is the most try hard lunchbox item because people try to win with it.
    PS. Don't tell lon about the conch

  • @Ploxtifs_OldAndDeadAccountXD

    “You keeping using the word ‘tryhard’. I do not think that word means what you think it means”

  • @capnMAN
    @capnMAN Před 19 dny +4

    Nah man the cow mangler is definetly the most casual!
    Every time i see a black box soldier they only see me as one thing and that's gibs!

  • @sonicmeerkat
    @sonicmeerkat Před 14 dny +1

    i love how the black box footage you use for the most casual launcher is using the conch box loadout which is almost exclusively used by tryhards who simply refuse to change class lol
    i would honestly bump the box above stock personally, stock is way more common on noobs than the box due to the extra shot of leniancy, 20 health on a hit rocket is strong, but moreso in terms of damage thresholds, a less experienced player will just die slower by missing a rocket, reloading them getting hit by another shot.

  • @captcha-bot
    @captcha-bot Před 14 dny +2

    Crazy how “having fun” is playing the game like a mindless amoeba.

  • @Halberds8122
    @Halberds8122 Před 17 dny +1

    0:03 Heavy Main spotted
    We must protect them from extinction

  • @XC11301991
    @XC11301991 Před 19 dny +2

    I highly have to disagree on the Blackbox. Blackbox is literally the soldier that wants to win 1v1's all the time. Then they combine with Conchqueror to increase their tankiness for general teamfight purposes. Also Blackbox might also be used by Soldiers that want self sustain when there's no medics, and the map has shitty medkits/locations for medkits and only knowledgeable Soldiers would know when to use it like that..

  • @Suomipe
    @Suomipe Před 19 dny +5

    if ur 10k special is about dh u should name the video "schizophrenic brit talks about direct it for 2 hours straight"

    • @shaniks-s
      @shaniks-s Před 15 dny +1

      I choose to think you purposely left off the "h" in "hit" to make it sound more british

    • @Suomipe
      @Suomipe Před 14 dny

      @@shaniks-s that wasnt on purpose but now that u mention it it makes it funnier

  • @BluTheStickFigure
    @BluTheStickFigure Před 19 dny +2

    Counter argument to black box being at the bottom
    How many hales own aussie Black boxes have you seen?
    Also, surprised to see the beggars so high up, even above the direct hit, ive always seen it as on the same level of silly and whimsy as the rocket jumper or airstrike

  • @delroku
    @delroku Před 17 dny +2

    You're a fool for putting the liberty launcher over the airstrike
    Airstrike is THE tryhard weapon
    If you ain't trying you're using it wrong.

  • @smiggleincinc
    @smiggleincinc Před 19 dny +1

    i freakin' love the liberty launcher. combined with the gunboats, the playstyle you become an unpredictable and constantly rocket-jumping menace that deals a measly 15 damage per rocket jump. using high vantage points and the element of surprise is so fun, but it's best on open maps/areas. it's not good by any means, it's easy to lose fights if you treat it like stock, but otherwise i wouldn't trade it in

  • @insidiousy
    @insidiousy Před 19 dny +3

    Hard disagree with the Black Box. Most people I see using it are trying to stay alive as long as possible. Deserves a spot somewhere in the middle imo.

    • @insidiousy
      @insidiousy Před 19 dny +2

      Still a neat video regardless! Just wanted to throw my opinion in the ring.

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 Před 19 dny +2

    You WILD with those takes, except Original, that is 100% fax, I've yet to meet one original user, ESPECIALLY strange quality original user who isn't a tryhard.
    But still besides your original take, your other one's are wild, like ranking black box as most casual one, sure it is pretty casual, but MOST casual? Nah dawg, as a black box user, I've encountered tons of tryhard black box users, especially those who use gunboats for some reason

  • @yang_not
    @yang_not Před 13 dny

    i don’t think i’ve seen a single beggars soldier who isn’t just trying to have some fun

  • @vojtadrasner2440
    @vojtadrasner2440 Před 11 dny

    I believe that soldier who can hit every rocket with direct hit is the third-deadliest thing in tf2, after quickscopers, and bot snipers.

  • @Soldier_Sprout
    @Soldier_Sprout Před 6 dny

    Black Box is a weird launcher, it allows the Soldier to either play more aggressively or just makes them more patient and tactical

  • @ItsEvanHere
    @ItsEvanHere Před 7 dny +1

    Most black box soldiers are equally if not more tryhard than stock soldiers.

  • @epicman1470
    @epicman1470 Před 19 dny +1

    That original rant was personal got dyamn

  • @riotwryy
    @riotwryy Před 19 dny

    i know no one will ever believe me but the airstrike can be insane if you know what youre doing. damage falloff doesnt exist if your hitbox is rapidly flying directly at your target, and clip size is everything to soldier as a class. the liberty launcher does nearly the same damage per clip as stock, making the extra rocket meaningless, but with just two kills the airstrike already does more damage per clip. just consider the airstrike with the kritzkrieg, seven 230 damage rockets fired within 0.28 seconds of each other. im not saying its perfect, but i think people need to forget the base jumper exists and give the airstrike a chance with a real secondary, especially the banner.

  • @aneasteregg8171
    @aneasteregg8171 Před 19 dny +1

    I mean I guess I'm not "trying" anything specific with the Black Box, but I think it's a great weapon to try and win with. Whether you're good or bad, it really helps out with your survivability when healing is unreliable.

  • @togeluga_the_cat
    @togeluga_the_cat Před 16 dny +1

    ima keep it a buck with yall i have *NEVER* seen any one use the liberty launcher, if seen every other launcher except the liberty launcher, i dont think the cow mangler is the least used launcher, just from experience

  • @l0gan359
    @l0gan359 Před 18 dny +1

    Big man said "Let's do a silly one" and put the beggars at 3 lmao (good video tho)

  • @MusForReal
    @MusForReal Před 19 dny

    The liberty launcher is probably my favorite rocket launcher just because it pairs so well with the gunboats

  • @somnvm37
    @somnvm37 Před 19 dny +1

    I think that the descussion in the video is pretty interesting, the journey is fun
    the actuall ranking makes no sense though.

  • @somnvm37
    @somnvm37 Před 19 dny +1

    I feel like people really react weirdly towards the airstrike
    a little bit less splash dmg and a little less direct dmg [about 10-20 less] meaning you may need 1 more shot
    but it's honestly not that bad. You never HAVE to do that jump thing, just use the additional rockets and be happy. Also retrieving while shooting 50 rockets back is always fun.

  • @imwithmilk8162
    @imwithmilk8162 Před 19 dny +1

    It is obsurd to assume that tryhards do not try to have fun, why the hell would a majority of them be playing the damn game if they're not having fun? I can understand considering a solid chunk of tryhards to not do stuff for fun, but winning is fun, it's gratifying and many people do not sacrifice a favourite weapon for it
    For example, me, i play generally to win, however my favourite weapon for the soldier is the beggars bazooka which in a casual scenario is almost always worse than stock because it's design is incredibly hit or miss, yet i use it all the time for my roamer loadout and sometimes even banner loadout because i am good with it anyway
    And when i decide to take a break from playing to win, i go queue for something like koth or hightower and i stick with the exact same loadout, but play for clips instead of picks and making space, because the beggars is insanely fun

  • @FrostyTheNightmare
    @FrostyTheNightmare Před 19 dny

    I love using the black box since (when paired with either the buff banner or battalions backup. NEVER THE CONCH) makes me feel like both a one man army and a big support that can stay alive long with the health on hit.

  • @Pseudo_Notfound
    @Pseudo_Notfound Před 19 dny +2

    8:24 All the Main Scouts unsubscribed when they heard this.

  • @wisemysticaltree568
    @wisemysticaltree568 Před 19 dny +1

    Someone who uses the original is always either doing so out of quake nostalgia or incredible sweatiness

  • @cyancookie1937
    @cyancookie1937 Před 18 dny +5

    Now you say that all your comments are exaggerated for comedic effect but tbh it still just sounds really mean spirited and just not particularly comedic in nature. Like I personally don't think it's funny to just call a hypothetical someone a prick. There's no humour there.

  • @israeldavila27
    @israeldavila27 Před 19 dny +1

    I still love and enjoy the air strike to this day. It felt like it should’ve been part of the game a long time ago, but it’s great and it’s so much fun to play with.

  • @ComparativelyRegular
    @ComparativelyRegular Před 17 dny

    Do NOT let this man be in the same lobby as the 7 billion hours Soldier main with a Hale's Own Professional Killstreak Original damn

  • @schnorple
    @schnorple Před 19 dny +1

    banger editing as always

  • @BRNG2042
    @BRNG2042 Před 19 dny

    As a fellow cow mangler user, if you have a duo of soldiers and they're extremely coordinated (playing with a friend) you can be nearly unstoppable with unlimited ammo and (if the other one's using the direct hit) extreme sentry busting capabilities.

  • @brounee2
    @brounee2 Před 12 dny

    I personally use the direct hit because even missing a shot is satisfying with it, and I like the challenge of hitting every shot. I don't like how ginormous the blast radius for stock is, it just simply is too forgiving. I recently got bored of the game because I've mastered the basics of every class, but then I bought some weapons and now I'm playing soldier much more regularly (I'm a heavy main, soldier used to be my least played class). I pair the dh with the batallion's backup or buff banner and disciplinary action. But that's my second loadout for soldier. I spend like 90% of the time trolldiering, as I find it much more fun, rewarding and challenging

  • @SeleverEnjoyer
    @SeleverEnjoyer Před 19 dny

    9:20 you also forgot to include the people that saw Antoni playing with it and are way too confident in their ability to replicate what he does

  • @medicAverage
    @medicAverage Před 19 dny

    While this video does have a decent amount of points like I very much agree with the ranking of the cow mangler and the air strike and especially the thing you said about the original, I don't agree however with the placements of the black box and the beggars.
    For starters most black box users usually pair the black box with the banners to serve a supportive role since the health that it grants, along with the black box's DPS makes it a great supportive role since you are going to last longer in the battlefield to support your team while providing them with buffs such as protection, extra damage, or health, so most soilders who use are strive for capping points and winning games, and thus tend to be more dedicated (sometimes a bit to dedicated) in winning, and thus making the tryhard soilder stereotype.
    Another ranking I don't agree with is the beggars bazooka since most of the people who use it treat it more like a mobility tool than an actual weapon due to its deviation and its misfire mechanic which tends to attract more of the type of people who take the weapon itself less seriously and more aim to get those market garden kills (contrary to unpopular belief aka you),which brings in an audience who belive in the phrase "fun-over-results", appreciating mobility fun over points on the score board.
    A bonus (but I think it's just me), the way you use the term 'tryhards" seems a bit biased against the type of people you describe as "tryhard", and the term tryhard is quite misrepresentative as a whole since anyone can be consideredfriendly, even a friendly (since they can be trying to hard to come across as freindly), and a skillful player doesn't necessarily have to be a " tryhard" (since their main goal isn't to do a specific task like win, its to generally have fun) So in conclusion your video isnt "bad", but it isn't "good".
    just tweak the ideas of the beggars and the black box and bit and you have a good video and yes, I know its your opinion but your opinion isnt what most people expirence in game, thus kinda considering it " flawed" (not incorrect but noticeably imperfect), just note at the end of the day you do what you want and you dont have to listen to what I say or what other people say, you are enjoying yourself and making these videos and I am happy for that :).

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 Před 19 dny +1

    0:15 W Soldier destroying tryhard engy

  • @artifactU
    @artifactU Před 14 dny

    i like the black box, im fairly new to the game & it pretty much seems like a direct upgrade from stock since reloading exists

  • @Sword_Scout
    @Sword_Scout Před 19 dny +2

    waiting for pyro from tf2 to arrive

  • @Halalmeat187
    @Halalmeat187 Před 17 dny

    Honestly the only reason why I used the original is because I like quake and liked the reference to it its kinda sad that most people who use it probably never played it

  • @damianateiro
    @damianateiro Před 18 dny

    Half of the people who use the beggars are: casuals or new ones who experiment and play with it or tryhards who want to force it even in the soup, I would say more that it would go in the top 5, the black box is much more seen by tryhards

  • @AlexDoubleAU
    @AlexDoubleAU Před 19 dny

    My take on Original users:
    They desperately want you to think they were gods at Quake back in the day, but chances are they weren't even born when Quake came out
    Also, I used to use the Original not because of the visuals or stats or sounds or anything, but because I had a Spec Killstreak one

  • @Chasodey
    @Chasodey Před 19 dny

    Well, for me the Original just looks cool and it's the Quake 1 gun and I like this franchise. And it takes quite a small amount of screen space, it's simply convenient. Speaking of the outro song, it's called "Se mettre sur son trente-et-un !" , Lon'q accidentally missed a word. And right now in Genshin you can play the music event with cool rhythm game and this song is there rn, pretty tough on hardest difficulty

  • @Ploxtifs_OldAndDeadAccountXD

    I have my Tank buster loadout in reserve if case the enemy team needs to be stopped/stomped.
    I consider that set as my “Tryhard set”

  • @ReaperGr448
    @ReaperGr448 Před 9 dny

    I use the original when I play soldier but I am neither a solider main nor a tryhard, I just like how simple it is.

  • @prestoncrenshaw2914
    @prestoncrenshaw2914 Před 19 dny +3

    Im having a seizure right now

  • @apolloknight9521
    @apolloknight9521 Před 13 dny

    As a Soldier Main, I mainly use the Rocket Launcher because it’s the most reliable for me as a causal player. I use the Direct Hit so I could practice with my accuracy (even playing TF2 for years now, my aim is just as shit as I was a newbie.)

  • @zerotwo6903
    @zerotwo6903 Před 19 dny

    and the original tryhards normally have a strange one with some random rename

  • @waker_link
    @waker_link Před 19 dny +1

    I have no idea what servers you are playing on, but in my experience Air Strike is WAY more common and actually threatening unlike The Liberty Launcher. I've seen great players over the years who prefer Air Strike over stock for either higher clip size which allows for more leeway during duels, or for rocket jumping benefits since with gunboats you can sync your clip for a HUGE burst of momentum thanks to the higher firing speed when rocket jumping.
    Meanwhile The Liberty Launcher just sucks, it's borderline useless without a damaging secondary/buff banner just purely because of how little damage it does, I only really see it used alongside the Market Gardener and that's it, most of the time people using it are usually doing it for fun because god knows why someone would equip it willingly to "win". Honestly I would swap their respective placement with each other.
    Also, Black Box as the most casual is definitely a hot take for sure

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 19 dny

      Most of my time is spent on Uncletopia, I trust that the average Uncletopia player has game sense and a decent awareness of positioning. The liberty launcher has had a bit of a renaissance recently among these players, as when combined with the buff banner or the gunboats, its actually surprisingly good.
      Long story Short; The Liberty does a small bit of everything, so a small amount of every playstyle uses it.

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 Před 15 dny +1

      ​@@Lonqudor 🤓

  • @doctorofallrats
    @doctorofallrats Před 17 dny

    Aside from the toxicity part (if i'm shittalking people, i'm clearly not enjoying things and should proooobably leave) and the roamer soldier part (trying to be a "roamer" in casual is hilariously pointless), that description of the Original called me out. Like, down to the exact loadout and low tier unusual. Hot damn!

  • @ChumpstickCharlie
    @ChumpstickCharlie Před 19 dny

    Number 9 and it's already a mess, black box they are trying their hardest to not die

  • @fakename5881
    @fakename5881 Před 8 dny

    im addicted to watching your videos and seeing just how absolutely atrocious your takes are and without fail im entertained every time

  • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
    @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Před 19 dny

    I guess I am a tryhard minded person. Dying is incredibly unfun, so I try to not do that, which makes me play more tryhardy to not be miserable.

  • @Duwahkeen
    @Duwahkeen Před 19 dny

    The Beggar's Bazooka is an interesting case to me, I see it gets a lot of use in 6s and it makes me happy seeing it there.
    It's a silly weapon and I love it to bits. I have good days and bad days with it and I always have fun overload jumping all over the place.
    Playing with the Beggar's has taught me how to time airblasts. :')

  • @G-Man____
    @G-Man____ Před 19 dny

    I just like the center projectile of the original but surprisingly I can’t hit rockets with regular stock skin but with every others rocket launcher I hit well

  • @masonkay7024
    @masonkay7024 Před 19 dny

    The beggers is super casual, when it’s often jokingly called the “Glue sniffing” weapon you can tell it’s a joke

  • @Curian-zm9nu
    @Curian-zm9nu Před 6 dny

    “BuT SouNdsMiTh SaiD in HiS StEreYo TyPe ViDeO…”

  • @blackholetl
    @blackholetl Před 19 dny

    I mean, as controversial as some pf the takes have seem to be taken by this comment section, they only think that kind of irked me was the fact that people just twnd to forget that you can use the airstrike without being in the air and still have far more rockets to deal with. Granted, it isn't quite the 20 rockets of Beggers, but it can be quite good.

  • @uBreeze
    @uBreeze Před 19 dny

    i have 4 hours on soldier and use the original because i think it looks pretty cool
    i equipped it like 4 years ago

  • @DeNiruable
    @DeNiruable Před 12 dny

    As a +1k hours Soldier main I have to disagree hard with this one.
    Black Box + Concheror is widely accepted as the ultimate pub stomp/tryhard combo and for good reason.
    The passive healing plus the 20hp for the Black Box hit makes you almost invincible with decent positioning and considering you get your health back anyway rocket jumping is incredibly easy and on par with the gun boats.
    It's basically self healing + mobility for the cost of 1 rocket and possibly your shotgun.

    • @DeNiruable
      @DeNiruable Před 12 dny

      Almost forgot:
      The health you get back on a Black Box hit while the Conch is active is insane and allows you to easily steamroll a whole group and dip

  • @Aweruqwlopka
    @Aweruqwlopka Před 19 dny +3

    Forgot bout you for a while

  • @mikonson4091
    @mikonson4091 Před 8 dny

    As someone who uses the original... it's the painis cannon, of course I'm gonna use it.

  • @Joskilani
    @Joskilani Před 19 dny

    You use the Beggar's Bazooka because of its ability to spam rockets. I use the Beggar's Bazooka because my cosmetics for Soldier make him look homeless and I wanted to stick with the theme. We are not the same

  • @D-N-0
    @D-N-0 Před 19 dny

    now i would like to see same videos about other classes. scout specifically (me being a scout main)

  • @manbehindthedesk43
    @manbehindthedesk43 Před 19 dny

    in my experience, Original soldiers are either the most polite and kind supportive people ive ever met in tf2 or bigotry reincarnate

    • @manbehindthedesk43
      @manbehindthedesk43 Před 19 dny

      and to an extent i gotta give them credit for their confidence to say slurs to me with having a nerd emoji voice

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 Před 15 dny +1

      Unironically using the word bigotry

  • @CoyoteMao
    @CoyoteMao Před 19 dny +2

    Another "TF2ber" that doesn't even mention the Beggar's main function as the burst-damage sentry nest buster. That's what makes it a tryhard weapon, not the "it's basically 20 rockets in a clip" that isn't true at all. If you try to use Beggar's like that, you will be killed by anything that isn't brain-dead or a fresh install. 🤷

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 19 dny

      Don't know why you felt the need to put "TF2ber" in quotes, but its wonderful to see a triggered Tryhard Beggars user as it actively proves my point that this is a Tryhard weapon

    • @muselibarnless
      @muselibarnless Před 19 dny

      The airstrike:

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 Před 15 dny

      ​@@Lonqudor 🤓

  • @Faleko_Fares
    @Faleko_Fares Před 18 dny +1

    Lon you forgot to do “can casual and competitive co-exist” video :(

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 17 dny

      It turned out to be quite a difficult video to make as nobody is going to enjoy the topic I’m covering. I’m trying my best and it should come out eventually

  • @domi-no1826
    @domi-no1826 Před 16 dny

    using air strike be like
    kills: 0
    assists: 3
    damage: 10967

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 Před 19 dny

    the conchbox playstyle sounds pretty tryhardy

  • @butlazgazempropan-butan11k87

    Im really suprised that the oryginal is regardes as the most tryhard rocketlauncher

  • @pokeprogame
    @pokeprogame Před 18 dny

    Lol I play soldier only when there aren’t already and use the original purely bec1use of the sound it makes (and I’m not even good at using it). I didn’t know I was using the most tryhard rocketlauncher the entire time

  • @carricksimone5122
    @carricksimone5122 Před 13 dny

    Stereotypes season 2 is looking great

  • @Tann3rr
    @Tann3rr Před 4 dny

    Idk why people are criticizing this list, I think it’s 100% true (also I use the original because of quake)

  • @Red-yt2dk
    @Red-yt2dk Před 15 dny

    Lon'qudor is a god and we should take his word as gospel.

  • @master-pz5ed
    @master-pz5ed Před 19 dny

    10:52 i mean you forgot how BROKEN THE MOBILITY IS on this thing like i can jump from badwater spwan to ENEMY SPWAN in like 10 sec its ridiculous

  • @mog5353
    @mog5353 Před 17 dny

    My list (cas to tryhard):
    Liberty launcher: objectively the worst launcher. The only merit is the jump damage. Very fun tho!
    Air strike: Also really fun, more so when one goes for ludicrous market gardens, but pretty bad.
    Rocket jumper: Any player using this is usually trying pretty hard, albeit with a vastly suboptimal loadout, hence why it is placed here.
    Beggars: Fun, quirky, suicidal. 10/10.
    Cow mangler: Either the hardest of sweats or, more likely, alt-fire spammers, which I respect.
    Black box: Either sweaty soldier that hates dying or backline spammer that hates retreating, either way more serious gamers.
    Direct hit: Mostly people done with sentries or scouts, otherwise quite sweaty.
    Stock/original: classic "Soldier main™", as sweaty as it gets.

  • @Goofy_Ahh_Productions_15
    @Goofy_Ahh_Productions_15 Před 18 dny +1

    Putting the "comedic" disclaimer at the END of the video was a pretty big mistake because I was about to scream a racial slur when you said that "nobody cares" about the tactical upsides the Original has. I am not a tryhard player, but when you tried to dumb down a weapon for it's "overexaggerated" upsides, it just makes you look like you're taking 5 doses of copium an hour because a 10,000 hour Soldier main joined the lobby with this thing. I get that the Original is just a straight upgrade and is used specifically for try hardy reasons, but dumbing down those huge reasons to use the weapon to "nobody cares" really makes the whole reasoning feel like a rant. Next time, PLEASE fit anything relating to disclaimers at the beginning, it's make the video look more professional and more understandable.

    • @Lonqudor
      @Lonqudor  Před 17 dny

      You’re typing as if you’re five years old. Also, if you’re intelligent enough to understand that my points were exaggerated, you don’t need the disclaimer.

  • @BoltTheSuperDog45
    @BoltTheSuperDog45 Před 19 dny

    As a original user I just fun the original to be fun there are couple times where I do get a bit try hard-ish but ay I personally love the original as my opinion

  • @TheOnlyCrow.
    @TheOnlyCrow. Před 19 dny

    I like Liberty Launcher and panic attack.

  • @user-wj4ph2ht5c
    @user-wj4ph2ht5c Před 19 dny

    Lon'Qudor, when are streams coming back?

  • @nathandoner8860
    @nathandoner8860 Před 19 dny

    Everysingle weapon for soldier is tryhard bro. Because it is soldier

  • @FWCdestiny
    @FWCdestiny Před 14 dny

    Turns out most sollys are tryhards just some are more tryhard the others.

  • @BoyOHBoy123
    @BoyOHBoy123 Před 19 dny

    When I started playing I used the Original cause it looked cool.

  • @jellojumper
    @jellojumper Před 17 dny +1

    Does this guy play TF2?
    Black Box + Conch

    • @THE_MrNoob
      @THE_MrNoob Před 17 dny

      that's more of an annoying self sustain strategy rather than tryharding. Staying alive is much more fun than dying more