Dismantling a $200 junkyard Barra engine - Project NOMANG Ep15 | fullBOOST
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- It’s been close to two years since we launched project NOMANG, a Ford Barra powered Holden Commodore street car. Well as you might be aware a lot has changed in the world since then and living in Melbourne Australia has certainly been challenging in terms of moving forward with our build timeline. We did intend on showing more track based episodes, but rather than have the car sit in the corner patiently waiting to race, we’ve decided it’s overhaul time so in the coming episodes we will cover a new engine, transmission, turbocharger and fuel system upgrades.
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It’s been close to two years since we launched project NOMANG, a Ford Barra powered Holden Commodore street car...so we’ve decided it’s overhaul time!
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Use fuckers better help me out in the comment section. 😂
should see what a dry sump is worth for power, don't wanna starve your $15,000 engine of oil
What's no mang mean ?
@@jmoore9806 the commodore v6 is referred to as a mang-mang. That is the sound it makes when horsepower heroes go limiter bashing! 🙂
@@onedayiwillmakesomecontent you saying l67 make a mang noise on the limiter?
"So you don't even know if it turns over"
"No, I don't care"
This guy is my spirit animal
This guy is a good fit for your channel!
Very knowledgeable guy and seems humble
Good Mechanic's are hard to find.
3.8L bottom end to pay proper homage to the origin of the VS.
“Never late in a free point ate”
I'd love to see someone build a 3.3 Barra short stroke engine. There used to be two Falcon sixes back in the old OHV days, a 3.3 & a 4.1. A 3.3 version in these would rev like hell, and would have less chance of turning its tires to instant smoke every damn time off the line.
Bloody oath maaaaate!
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There's plenty of extreme builds out there , I want to see a quality street build with emphasis on torque through the rev range 👍
Love the obsession with these motors, especially the way they dispatch of LS powered cars after light work.
You guys doing stages of build gives us punters much better info for limited dollar builds of our own. I like the idea of a stock crank to start with.
$1800 left to make the 1000 hp barra
I would say with evidence that the crank is flexing as it is with the standard caps, check the crank for straightness, do the caps, do a 360 thrust bearing upgrade too, if the crank is FUBAR, do the crank, and future proof it, and this would help with harmonics a little bit too. Cnc the head, stage 1 equivalent, double springs, atomic chain setup and guide bolt, billet pump gears. You want to set this up to have long lasting trust in it, IMHO.
Good luck guys.
What are you on about? the crank was not flexing or warped.
@@jasonswift7098 you clearly don't know much about what was happening.
@@pheonixfps9248 yes i do, put up the time stamp where you reckon you see the crank all wobbly and twisted.
Great to see another NO MANG Ep !!!
The engines probably already built so just patiently waiting for the next ep on the dyno !!!
surely a crackle tune giving the fact your going stage 1 :)
Yeah it works like that bro
While a forged crank is good insurance, you will always be tempted to push it that little bit more, and a little bit more, and then where does it end? Personally, I would stick with a stock crank and limit the power output via the turbocharger.
You wouldn't know anyone with a hub dyno !!!!!
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
@@shakstar 😂
Build it once, build it right, do the crank boys
Factory crank is pretty good as is, rod and piston is more of an affordable upgrade for most so to see it done and what its capable of without spending a million dollars would be awesome, would reach out to alot more people too
Always head porting :D (oil pump)
Glad to see this project back on.
Cant wait for the ZF build
Throw that crank back in backwards to counter the taper wear on bearings haha lol
Seriously ditch the stock crank and forget about having to pull it apart again unless you explode it at the track or pushing on the dyno.
A crank driven centrifugal turbocharger in the style of an EMS freight train would be very unicorn 🦄
NOMANG is seriously so cool, I love these videos
Go a different way to everybody else - instead of throwing 35-40 psi of boost at it, run high static compression and less boost pressure with the smallest turbo you can get away with for like 900 flywheel horsepower, but a super thick and fat torque curve right through the rev range.
Standard crank and girdle , better pistons and rods , billet oil pump , fg xr6 turbo cams , good size injectors , 6boost exhaust manifold and maybe a plazma man plenum
Stay with a factory crank and main cap set up , do piston and rods, use a bigger pin, use arp 2000 main cap studs , and bolts for rods .
Arp 625 or equivalent head studs , keep it standard size .
Do a fire ring head gasket set up , and grout fill block to Welsh plug .
Do all the common mods etc oil pump, chain and the rest .
208 intake and exhaust cams.
Throw in a mid sized turbo example PTE 7685 gen2 and your good for 1200rwhp max at around high 30s psi region.
In a car like the commodore which would be about 350kg less heavier then the Ford's the Barra came in, I guess you would be looking at low 8s.
.'ve watched this series from the beginning ...I hadn't realised its almost 2 years since the first episode
Yeah me too bro, the ole 'rona messing with timelimes, and everything else generally.
Awesome. Love nomang, cant wait to watch this build.
Al Gore gots the rhythms love this build George is a mad man so wanna see the nomang transbrake launching at Calder once we are open again🍻👍
Also george it would great to do a comprehensive vid on a stout built zf auto on the channel plenty out here running that kit and not wanting to mortgage the house with bills north of 10k for a result.
Only 10mins .. what a tease.
😃😃😃😃😃😃
Put a Boss in it 💪
Yeh buddy 🤙
I suggest maybe in the name of keeping within the realms of "stage 1" and the budget checkout Atomic's crank hardening/treatment process. It would seem that the factory crank can support surprising numbers. (Rpm & tune relative) .
Thanks for another episode on this build boys ive been watching since the beginning and am waiting for the next episode. As for engine specs you boys could work that out but i do think that block needs a powder coat👍👍👍
If you remove the rust it's not a proper Ford.
I would love to see a modern set of twins compression hard and early on a full built bottom end with standard cams and head fire ringed only due to the engine configuration where it generally produces and where in the range it does I think a twins combo has potential that’s it
Twins are always inferior. Only reason it is done nowadays is for packaging on v6s and 8s. If you wanted epic response it would be cool to have a g25-660 and boost from idle but might only rev to 5k?
@@quincyoconnor9707 It'd rev to the limiter, but it'd be choked to shit at higher revs and the power curve would be very sad. Even with a G35-900 you'd be wanting one of the largest size exhaust housings so as to not strangle it.
These build plans needed more buzz words like "Fully built", "blueprinted and balanced", "ported and polished", "lumpy cams", "billet", "big single".
Somewhat disappointed.
We already have a set of ghost cams for it 🤔👍
@@fullboost Oof. They're kinda the same as 3/4 race cams, right?
@@TorqHub "3/4 race cams"? Is that like a stage 6 street/track grind?
-rods
-pistons
-oil pump
-head studs
-stage 1 cams (street car)
-new quality timing kit
-good head gasket
Leave the rest OEM.
Valve springs?
Full girdle, rods, pistons, stock crank
7:47 factory crank in sync from both fellas
And Nomang at the end
Quickest barra street powered commodore sounds good 🤔
Bloody freedom day in NSW wooooo hoooooo gladys is gone!!
Dan your next fella! You n gladys can give each other ripstarts in prison.
Barra video wasn't too bad too.
Any more shots of those twins on the bench and I would have sworn I was watching bench torque! 😄
Build it mental and chuck on a multi stage adjustable tune dial via the fan switch, and it will be a full yoo toob queen! Lol
The stock crank can take a beating I would be surprised if you have problems with it before something else. Save the money and use the stock one. I wouldn't bother porting the heads myself but I would love to see a video of it being done haha.
Unless you guys are shooting for 1200+hp the standard crank will be fine, your "stage 1" engine should be 1000hp capable and I'm guussing more than enough for the zf and the goals for the car. Keen as to see the next video. Good luck lads
Also... You need to build it for under 8k to shut the haters up
@@Cheato That doesn't mean every std crank would make that. 👍
@@fullboost true
More so with unknown kms/hrs on it.
The best option for this engine is to send it to me in the states and I'll slide it into my fox body 😃
4.2L stroker. Full send for NOMANG
My 2c... Stock (checked) crank, quality rods and pistons, girdle, quality oil pump. Done right will handle 1000+. Mild cams to keep it nice on the street and stick with a mid frame turbo. With big boost should be great at the track but still responsive enough with the ZF on the street. Pretty much my plan for my BF, I'm a fair bit heavier though! Looking fwd to seeing the results 👍
6:09 is he whistling The midnight- vampires? Hell yeah LOL Def go piston and rod setup!
Sure was 👍
Watch till the very end 👍
As per what you were discussing, stage 1 would be plenty. In that car that would be more than capable of running into the 8's and you would still retain longevity
Needs to be a spoon engine with three t66 turbo's with NOS and a Motec System Exhaust.
But what about the danger to manifold?!?
@@ChristopherHallett You can set up a laptop warning for that. The sensor is attached to the passenger floor pan.
3.8 Nitto de-stroker, GT47 and let it eeeeeeeat!
Rods, pistons and cams please you can do a full send later should be plenty for a ZF
Hey George, I'll grab those old pistons from you!
While we're on topic, you obviously saw that I don't need those parts off you now! 😂👍
I reckon buy the crank now. I did hear you say send it..
Sonic cheek the block . That would be the limiter for starters
I'd love to see someone build a 3.3 Barra short stroke engine. There
used to be two Falcon sixes back in the old OHV days, a 3.3 & a 4.1.
A 3.3 version in these would rev like hell, and would have less chance
of turning its tires to instant smoke every damn time off the line.
100%, rods, pistons and a girdle.
It come down to what you want to achieve in drags, if you want to go down the 1/4 with a VR with a barra then make sure its going to do at least 9's or hi 8's so around 1,000 to 1,500 at the rear wheels that way the engine and other mods are made to do the job, if not then have it doing 10's is like every other barra out there even a Holden with a barra?
Instead of upgrading later, start correctly, I totally agree!
The fuck? 1500 at the wheels would put a VR into the low 8s easily, traction permitting.
Here we go!
In my opinion if you pulled the engine that far down you might as well do the crank, at least the engines is done if you push more boost later
Keen to see where you spend the $1800 on the engine
Boys your gonna push my 1000hp for 2k build out of budget, temping me with new cranks, naughty naughty
Bruh, there was no need to barra swap it. The mang would be good for a megawatt with just a pod filter and big bore exhaust.
Mang the world!
Full send.
Twin topmount turbo's because its cool and just isn't done anymore.
Maybe two oem xr6 turbos top mounted? Or similar equivalent
Rods piston and dial in the 12
Rods, pistons, cams and ported head and your done.
I'm that U.S. fan....😂
Hmm... Thought I was.
"EX-taxi" be alot better than that "other" taxi 😜
Not a fan of barra or ls motors, however I do enjoy watching them strip and rebuild the motor
Doing the torrington bearing on the crank to stop float ?????
Lpg and turbo motors have stellite valve seats for the extra heat. Na heads have shit themselves very quickly without them.
I’d suggest just go all out and spend the WHOLE $2K!
Full boost build
pft dont need all that forged stuff, just ghost cam, cracke pop tune and some 20w-50 and she be right to go
20W-50? In what, the radiator? Chuck some 85-140 diff oil in the motor, it won't burn any then and the oil pressure will be fucking incredible!
Your decision depends on how far you want to send it, don't they reliably handle over 1000 rwhp on the standard crank?
czcams.com/video/2hKpRTrGT54/video.html stock crank
Depends on the castings, definitely would wanna get the crank tested if your going to throw money at decent rod/piston combos
There's been stock Nanna driven barras with broken cranks, and there's been guys with 1500hp who have had no issues
America has the 5.3, Australia has the 4.0
Put a crank in it.
Loving the series fella's. What's Franks opinion on the crankshaft?
Dont know if its been suggested but would a front crank torrington bearing conversion be overkill on this build. What would be the cost to do this conversion. Looking at doing similar build at xmas time.
Nitto 3.8L Destroke! ;)
Would you know where I can find some rocker/followers? Bought a barra imported into America and some water got into the head and ruined 10 of my followers. I have found lifters, springs, and valves. But cant seem to find new or used followers.
Guess we need to know the budget??
Another episode of showing off the mighty RB40. Also, check out and share my Barra memes from my IG, cause as we all know...
*NOTHING BEATS A 2K BARRA!* 😁👍
What the hell is an RB40? This is a 3JZ-GTE.
@@ChristopherHallett Go look at the Motive comparison of a Barra block, an RB block and a JZ block and look which ones are identical in bore spacing.
@@MafiaboysWorld Bro, everybody knows the Nissan RB26 is just an exact rip-off of the BMW M88!
Build australias fastest street regoed barra powered VS commodore sleeper
What music were you talking about? I couldn’t catch what George said
The Midnight - Vampires
@@fullboost that the one he said he was obsessed with that he was whistling? Thanks bud
green top send it
Rod and pistons all day
Hey fullboost curious how something like this goes on the street?
I’ve never been in a swapped barra lighter car.
I’ve got a fg xr6t Ute with 350rw & tbh feels pretty boring. I’ve had 200kw silvias that were a lot more fun.
I’m guessing this being fairly light would make it more lively?
Cheers for the content 👍
Well of course we're gonna say "full build that shit"....but it's not our money is it.
But please......build the crap out of that thing if possible 🤞
Another great vid guys👍
Look into the spool kits not bad
Spool is awesome, got them in my 1JZ. 👍
So George 🤔
My suggestion
-Forged Rods and pistons
-Fast street cams
-gas flow head with 1mm oversized valves
-arp head gasket and studs
-independent throttles
-banana branch
-200 shot nitrous
NO TURBOS KEEP ATMOSPHERIC.
3.8 litre de-stroke 🙏🏼
valve springs and oil pump gears?
Get some Tonebox or Lucy in Disguise background music next
Fast is just a case of money, how fast do you want to go?
Does the ZF break before the crank?
Soooo that means your selling your existing one for 2k ? 😏
Put a rb30 infront of the zf 🤔
For the algorithm 👌
Secondly, would be interesting to see a ZF8HP75 behind a Barra. Even the GS7D36SG DCT.
Yes sir cost me $2400 for your same $200 engine and I didn’t get any wire harness or accessories…
Thorough look at the Barra cylinder head.
Barra Cylinder Head Porting
czcams.com/video/BjuY1pTrN0Q/video.html
Fully send 2000hp.