Is "Flow" the same as hyper focus? | ADHD | Episode 72
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- The positive psychology concept of "flow" and ADHD hyper-focus describe the same state. Find out what we know about turning on and turning off hyperfocus.
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00:11 🧠 *Flow State and Hyperfocus Introduction*
- Flow state and hyperfocus appear to be the same brain state.
- Positive psychology studies flow, and it's similar to hyperfocus in ADHD.
- The linkage implies that anyone, not just those with ADHD, can experience this state.
01:24 🌟 *Flow State Definition and Characteristics*
- Flow state is a state of being energized, focused, and present.
- Characteristics of the flow state include absorption in a task, loss of sense of time, intensity, and relaxation.
- It's observed in various fields like art, athletics, and the workforce.
04:30 ⚡ *Flow State in ADHD and Its Challenges*
- People with ADHD can also experience hyperfocus, which can be framed as both a superpower and a problem.
- Hyperfocus can lead to a lack of awareness of the outside world and a focus on the wrong tasks.
- ADHD individuals may struggle with social connections and team engagement during hyperfocus.
06:06 🔄 *Characteristics and Preconditions of Flow State*
- Six characteristics of the flow state include being present, merging action and awareness, loss of self-reflection, personal control, time distortion, and intrinsic reward.
- Preconditions for entering the flow state include clear goals, immediate feedback, and a match between perceived challenge and skill level.
12:30 🧠 *Theories on the Flow State*
- Three theories about the flow state: information processing (hypofrontal), attentional, and reward-attention synchrony.
- Limited research on the flow state in the brain due to challenges in measuring it during intense activities.
16:39 🧐 *Traits and Tips for Inducing Flow State*
- Traits linked to experiencing the flow state: curiosity, intrinsic motivation, persistence, and low egotism.
- Tips for inducing the flow state include finding intrinsic motivation, removing distractions, honing skills, and strengthening metacognitive skills.
19:50 🚫 *Downsides and Managing Flow State, Especially in ADHD*
- Downsides of the flow state include potential addiction and hyperfocusing on unproductive tasks.
- Managing flow state in ADHD involves setting boundaries, using alarms, and involving your social network to help you exit the state.
24:22 👋 *Conclusion and Future Topics*
- The flow state in ADHD and its potential benefits and challenges have been discussed.
- The next topic to be addressed is CBT for ADHD in the upcoming episode.
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Great analysis on the hyperfocus phenomenon. I was diagnosed with adhd 2 weeks ago at the age of 30 and I can say that your video helped me in my understanding, functional knowledge makes the most difference in managing adhd hyperfocus from destructive to gradually become an ally. Best regards.
I'm glad you found it helpful. Feel free to share with anyone else who might value it.
@@dr.johnkruse6708which. Do you think is BEST to improve hyperfocus add ?
Mfd: increase a lot this effect
Atomoxetine: Increase less but It is not efficient for take hard task, no patient, no pleasure
Vyvanse: i think It is BEST to open arousal off the mind, to avoid hyperfocus
To the other hand, atomoxetine seems like vasoconstrictor effect in brain ? It is like fading mind,slight daze.. improve with vasodilator like vinpocetine.
Could be a cause of add poor flow ? Thanks
Thank you so much for making this video :)
Incredible sir
Dr.John Kruse, please let me share with you my experience. Flow is effortless, everything just seems to fall into place. Hyper-focus is similar, but not effortless, it is being locked into a topic so strongly that you don't want to leave.
When in hyper-focus and someone wants to pull you out, anger comes naturally. While disruptions are upsetting in flow, they don't cause the anger.
Addiction to flow state is real, why wouldn't you want to live in a state where everything turns out well, effortlessly.
While I enjoy your videos, I would appreciate if you kept your politics out of them because there are (at least) two sides to every argument, and that's not why we're here.
being kicked out of flow is very anger inducing at least for me. I'm an artist who was just recently diagnosed with ADHD and for me I often would tell my husband not to interrupt me when I get into my "art brain." It is when I'm the most productive and inspired- It's very hard to control and I can't force myself to go into that state, it has to happen naturally so when someone interrupts it, it's like being punched and I can get quite mad, almost irrationally mad. Also when I'm in flow state, I don't need to eat or sleep and it's hard to pull myself out of that mode by myself; so for me, it feels identical to when I hyperfocus on random things or ideas but with a mood boost.
@@Valkari22 The difference is the state of consciousness. Are you aware of your doing, are you aware of the flow with all feelings, can you switch off whenever you want or need it (flow, Task positive positive network in the brain). Or are you totally sucked up unconscious (default network in the brain). You are focused in what you are doing but your default network keeps you doing it (so focus + blabla network). So you cant stop it (I have to do this, i need this one thing, i need to do that ... bla bla going on in your head).
Single tasking is the key.
I have got my ideas from the book "One second ahead" from Hougaard Rasmus and from Gary Weber (Phd - scientist and advaita teacher searching on meditation, available here on youtube) and of course my own experience in getting lost to often in tasks ;-)
I feel like the fact you don’t want to leave hyperfocus when you have adhd, may be because when you’re not hyperfocused you feel very unproductive. As a result you want to maximize productivity whenever you can, and staying immersed in hyperfocus is a good way to do so, even unknowingly. You get so much more dopamine from achieving stuff, that you can’t be bothered to stop, you just continue, even if it’s not that important
In my experience, productivity (in something I find interesting) drives motivation, which drives productivity.