@@viborgvee8399 They built the western world. Many things you see in your daily life came from them, including the letters you are using to write and read this.
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
Why with all the world's CGI at our fingertips don't we get more set design like this? It's all identical silvery spaceships and gray square-jawed villains. Gimme more crimson nightmare deathwalls with homoerotic visual themes, cowards.
This is a disgusting depiction of the persecution and execution of homosexuals, and the best description you can think of is "homoerotic"? I think your next CZcams comment needs to be "Gimme more education."
@@Sean-me4fv Persecution of homosexuals? Huh? Did we watch the same movie? I remember the 15 minute long orgy scene, but the persecution of homosexuals scene slipped right past me.
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
Here’s a theory: Alex from Clockwork Orange is a descendant of this version of Caligula. I mean, I’m sure if Alex had absolute power he would do shit like this
I have to give them credit for going so completely all out with such a seedy, morally deranged film. It’s basically high budget porn, with a bunch of A listers. You could never get away with something this ballsy and nuts today, much less release it in theatres
@@Skinski7Ewwww no! They have no taste anymore. They just look ridiculous and horrid while not caring that they look horrid. I’d rather watch Caligula.
If such a thing had really existed at the time, it would have been an engineering miracle. A bit of re-arranging and it could have been used for threshing and other agricultural uses.
Visually creative, but probably too quick for the Caligula of tradition (evidently the real one was merely an occasionally violent troll). One thing Caligula was supposed to have said while ordering an execution was to tell his henchmen that he wanted the prisoners cut slowly with knives, "so that they FEEL that they are dying." The phrase is so simple and terrible that it might even be true.
The death itself is quick, but imagine being stuck there unable to move while this unstoppable machine of death is coming towards you. The psychological torture alone might be enough for a true sadist to get off on.
I love Roman History. But this scene is so comically over the top I can't take it seriously. Also, let's face it, if Caligula could've he probably would've had something like this built.
@@MelancoliaI nah. In these times this was obvious. He saw his old boss aging. He knew he had to get on the good side of the new emperor while he could, so he merely killed the old emperor to do so. Caligula knew he would do it to him if he had to. His sister even tells him this in the movie.
This movie is debauchery x 1000, as the violence and porn scenes are many. That they had so many top-line actors in the film amazes me to this day. Thanks!
There really is no point to the director having put this thing into the movie. There simply never was any such wall, or machine. But because its in the movie some people think it was real.
Mark Solarz I mean, it is very interesting to see it in the movie. Especially since we know that Roman rulers in general, and Caligula in particular, were sadistic. I am only saying it’s still a disservice to teaching history.
@I am Jean Pierre, the Evil Puppet! To be able to say whether vast majority of texts are gone you have to know how many are supposed to be there. That is not known. But in general Rome has left us with many more written records and books than any other civilization. In any case, no one goes "well there is no document saying it didn't exist, so it could have existed." Logically no one would make a record describing a very specific thing to just state it didn't exist. Records usually describe actions or things which did take place or did exist.
@@ACAPREDDUDE Trying so hard to be different so others can acknowledge your existence LOL Malcolm McDowell is a legendary and one of the best Actors. You probably like johnny depp
@stairwaytoheaven8 Malcolm McDowell had a one-note performance, in 'A Clockwork Orange', and his other films(including this one), were absolute shit!... Oh, and BTW....Johnny Depp is a modern day hero, who has done wonders for men's rights everywhere.
Macro was confident of rapid promotion for past services but Emperor Caligula was aware of the potential threat Macro posed and soon removed him from office. According to some sources, Macro was promised the governorship of Egypt but upon arriving at Ostia with Ennia to take ship, he was instead arrested and stripped of his office. Macro committed suicide soon after. Macro was able to leave enough money to provide an amphitheatre for his home town of Alba Fucens
A more prosaic death than this one. Amoral, but Caligula was probably astute enough to reflect that a figure who could kill one emperor might be a threat to another.
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" Blah blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
Killing Macro led to his downfall. The reason the emperor before Caligula lived so long was because he had Macro in his pocket and therefore could control the prefects and any mutiny. Chaerea was quick to kill Caligula when he got the opportunity.
First time I saw this movie was with my dad. He saw it when he was like 18 years old and it made a huge impression on him so when it got released on DVD he rented it and we watched it together.
@@HiDesert004 Actually as a teenager, something like 13-14. Like everybody else, I wanted to see the porn scenes. Never before or later have I seen such a long queue in front of the cinema.
I cant believe they actually make a building sized wall of death for 1 scene. You harsly even see the full wall. Irl it qas crazy looking and covered in artwork
I remember this Grabage playing at selective theaters back in 79' when I was 14. It played at The Ziegfield on Broadway where there were lines around the whole street. My dad was forcing my mom to go because Everyone was hyped up about the Pornographic content. But she wouldn't go. According to McDowell,...it's the biggest grossing independent film of all time and biggest Trash !
Really wish walls like this existed. Malcolm McDowell is great. The fact he played as Alex from Clockwork Orange makes this movie a hybrid of great, but fucked up at the same time
@@flochforster7864 I wasn’t talking about the wall. Of course, that never happened. I just read something a hundred million years ago that he used to make making his guards decapitating his guests at the dinner table a fairly regular thing. I wanted to confirm it.
@@jackphillips3354 Unlikely, but if you can find evidence, I'm open to correction. Historians hate Caligula because for a young, idealistic leader, he was harsh and by today's standards brutal. Remember that Rome did in fact enjoy watching people fight to the death in a Colosseum, so although the stories themselves are likely fiction, they represent what people who lived under his rule thought of it. When you hear stories from history of controversial leaders doing outlandishly violent things, it will either have an abundant amount of proof, or will be completely made up by their enemies. Caligula was hated during his time and still is hated. Historians claim he went to war with the ocean too. There is seldom evidence besides quotes from historians who lived hundreds of years after him, and coincidentally were biased against him. Lots of Caligula's life is misrepresented to make him look crazy, but he was by no means a gentle emperor.
@@flochforster7864 youre 100% right about all of that. He is right to be hated, and you are right to hate him. But me, I do not think he was a hateful man. He was insane, but I don’t believe he was evil. Not true evil, anyway. As Tiberius said, “I am nursing a viper unto the world!” If you’ve read his history, and I’m sure you have, you know that before he took power he’d spent the entire TWENTY TWO YEARS of his life up till then perpetually in living hell! When his father, one of Rome’s finest generals, died under “mysterious circumstances” when he was only three, the power vacuum he left left a target on the back of his head. He was constantly running and hiding, being shuffled from one sympathetic official to another, as his life was constantly in literal mortal danger. Then he spent another six years in the then emperor Tiberius’s retreat, Caprica. There he hosted orgies regularly, only he was the only one getting off. It wasn’t like National Lampoon’s Animal House in there. Sexual abuse, health hazards, and public humiliation were the foundation pillars Tiberius built that awful place on. Witnesses noted that “you would never have seen a better servant, or a worse master”. He spent his whole life before the throne essentially walking blindfolded in a minefield, while the powers that be had a little pool going on when he was going to take his step. That last bit was figurative, in case that’s not obvious, and you get the wrong idea. Of course, when he began to rule, he seemed to be everything the empire hoped he’d be. Right up until he became violently ill, then when he recovered everything you pinpointed was when it was all down hill from there. When you read his story, YOU see disgust and contempt, I see my childhood and the terrible trauma that came with it. Plenty of his contemporaries had monstrous childhoods that didn’t affect the terrible things they later did: Bundy, Hitler, Gacy, Manson, Ramirez, amongst others. For the above stated reasons, I don’t think Gaius fits among them. Some people are not born monsters. They’re made monsters!!! Through years of abuse❤️🩹🥺 Simply put, although it’s not really simple at all, he just didn’t know any better. It’s not as simple as just waking up, brushing your teeth, going to school, and say “I’m not going to be an evil megalomaniac when I grow up. I’m going to solve world hunger and rescue a kitty from a burning building, and all the forest people will be my friends”. Dude! Nobody would do what the subject of this film did with his life if everything was that black and white. People can’t always understand these things for themselves. Either they don’t get a chance, nobody taught them any better. This guy, Ed Kemper, Charles Whitman, Ted Kaczynski, Tommy Lynn Sells, Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh, Aileen Wuornos, Alexander the Great, Andrei Chikatilo, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Richard Chase, Martin Bryant, Jeffrey Dahmer, Griselda Blanco, John Allen Muhammad, Lee Boyd Malvo, One L Goh, Richard Speck, Henry Lee Lucas, Adam Lanza, and Andrew Kehoe didn’t really get a chance to learn better. It doesn’t excuse what they did at all either, and I’m not saying it does! But some people need help finding the better way, because they’ve become so fucked up from living in hell they don’t know what that is. I’ve seen first hand what that is, com padre. No, I’m not saying that anyone with a shitty enough childhood should have a hunting license. Of course there’s no call for acting that way. I’m just saying Gaius Germanicus didn’t climb in there on his own is all. And that we could learn a lot more if we took more from Frankenstein’s Monster than Frankenstein himself.
without the Roman decapitation machine, today we'd have no lawnmowers.
That is absolutely brilliant.
. . . and no French Revolution
What did the Romans do for us? 🤷♂️
@@viborgvee8399 They built the western world. Many things you see in your daily life came from them, including the letters you are using to write and read this.
@@rjr6274well beside those things, what have the Romans ever done for us?
this scene reminds me of the dreams i have when i'm sick
Lol i always have weird dreams when sick
sick with corona? or sick like a sadist lol
LEgit LOL there. Spot on my friend
This movie had incredible sets. Can't imagine any modern filmmaker having the balls to put such thing in his movie!
Or hers
Well Bob Gucionne is not exactly a filmmaker
@@wanderlust2279 no balls at all.
@@sleezboy992 the scenes Tinto Brass filmed still include lots of dicks, tits, and ass
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
Why with all the world's CGI at our fingertips don't we get more set design like this? It's all identical silvery spaceships and gray square-jawed villains. Gimme more crimson nightmare deathwalls with homoerotic visual themes, cowards.
Oh shut up.
So fucking true
This is a disgusting depiction of the persecution and execution of homosexuals, and the best description you can think of is "homoerotic"? I think your next CZcams comment needs to be "Gimme more education."
@@Sean-me4fv
Persecution of homosexuals? Huh? Did we watch the same movie? I remember the 15 minute long orgy scene, but the persecution of homosexuals scene slipped right past me.
Hollywood has little imagination nowadays. It's mostly comic book action, sequels, and remakes. Almost no attention is paid to the story.
That death machine looks like something straight out of Jodorowsky's imagination. The cinematography for this movie seems next level
If this is out of Jodorowsky’s imagination, imagine what his nightmares are like.
The amount of hairy pussies is also next level in this movie...
I thought i was the only one who saw parallels to Jodorowsky.
The amount of gore and naked women is very Jodorowsky
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
well, it never existed in actual Rome, so it certainly came out of some modern person's imagination.
Here’s a theory: Alex from Clockwork Orange is a descendant of this version of Caligula. I mean, I’m sure if Alex had absolute power he would do shit like this
Explaines his love for a bit of the ol ultraviolence and the in out in out
@@jeremiahdansereau2950 "I've taught you much, me little Droogies!"
Lol, but sadly no Beethoven or Monteverdi to bop the head to.
Didn’t know Caligula was a resident evil boss.
"If only all Rome has just one neck" that phrase...
Had*
Is fuckin horrible!.... Terrible line. Terrible acting.
I have to give them credit for going so completely all out with such a seedy, morally deranged film. It’s basically high budget porn, with a bunch of A listers. You could never get away with something this ballsy and nuts today, much less release it in theatres
Just visit a local Pride Parade instead.
@@Skinski7 🤣 True
@@Skinski7Ewwww no! They have no taste anymore. They just look ridiculous and horrid while not caring that they look horrid. I’d rather watch Caligula.
You can't imagine how cruel a man is when the power is in his hands.
And he's in hell now
actually he's in heaven fuking jesus's ass...
One of the truest measures of a person is how they handle power
If such a thing had really existed at the time, it would have been an engineering miracle. A bit of re-arranging and it could have been used for threshing and other agricultural uses.
It's plausible. The Romans had knowledge about gear ratios,and mechanics
So this is where that nightmare memory comes from. I wonder how I saw this decades ago.
Prolly ya last life brother
The face makes on the death wall makes it even scarier
I love that little "ick" noise he makes at the end.
Over a piece of fruit after watching 20 people beheaded.
Joffrey would’ve loved to have something like this
Yeah lmao
Visually creative, but probably too quick for the Caligula of tradition (evidently the real one was merely an occasionally violent troll). One thing Caligula was supposed to have said while ordering an execution was to tell his henchmen that he wanted the prisoners cut slowly with knives, "so that they FEEL that they are dying." The phrase is so simple and terrible that it might even be true.
The death itself is quick, but imagine being stuck there unable to move while this unstoppable machine of death is coming towards you. The psychological torture alone might be enough for a true sadist to get off on.
@@silversnail1413 Yeah I can see that.
That's in the movie. He orders the death of Proculus and gets mad when he dies too quickly.
The set is crazy. Look at the costumes!!! So opulent.
I love Roman History. But this scene is so comically over the top I can't take it seriously. Also, let's face it, if Caligula could've he probably would've had something like this built.
Oh you're so serious about movies 🤣
Thats good Such a thing never existed
whole movie is over the top
You’re a nerd
Como toda pelicuala hay fantacia y mentiras
If only all Rome had just one neck!
*"crack* ..... euuugh!..."
"How would you ever know it's yours?" lol.
Full Auto with Silencers and Drum Magazine...just spray and pray...one of the those discharged sperm cells has got to hit SOMETHING....
Saturday entertainment in Roman times.
Was this execution one of their Matinees?
@@Kelly14UK dude all things besides, caligula was a savage emperor and we need to be glad that we weren't born around his time...
@@sebastiancastellanos9527 Yeah he was a git. Folk must've been relieved.
Better than Britians got Talent.
@@sebastiancastellanos9527 Bollocks. He was a glorious leader. One of the best! It's all propaganda I tell ye'.
0:46 She literally has a leash on her neck.
hot
So did lea in star wars
Imagine the meeting with the engineer that designed it.
"Hey man, I want you to build me a mobile decapitating wall"
Poor Macro. The only real friend Caligula had.
was he really a friend? He smothered his old Emperor.
@@ovechkin100 The man was loyal...to a fault.
@@MelancoliaI nah. In these times this was obvious. He saw his old boss aging. He knew he had to get on the good side of the new emperor while he could, so he merely killed the old emperor to do so. Caligula knew he would do it to him if he had to. His sister even tells him this in the movie.
@@ovechkin100 It's been a while since I saw the movie but I thought that Caligula killed Tiberius himself. I could be wrong 🤔
@@MelancoliaI You're definitely wrong. Macro kills Tiberius and turns to Caligula and says "hail Caesar"
This movie is debauchery x 1000, as the violence and porn scenes are many. That they had so many top-line actors in the film amazes me to this day. Thanks!
The power of money commands you!
At the end when he's assassinated, his mute guard gets decapitated.
Would have been great if they had used this headchopper
An absolutely underrated gem
It's a piece of cheap filth.
There really is no point to the director having put this thing into the movie. There simply never was any such wall, or machine. But because its in the movie some people think it was real.
StopFear your right....they had far longer more amusing death....scenes! This was just crazy.......to short!
Mark Solarz I mean, it is very interesting to see it in the movie. Especially since we know that Roman rulers in general, and Caligula in particular, were sadistic. I am only saying it’s still a disservice to teaching history.
@I am Jean Pierre, the Evil Puppet! To be able to say whether vast majority of texts are gone you have to know how many are supposed to be there. That is not known.
But in general Rome has left us with many more written records and books than any other civilization. In any case, no one goes "well there is no document saying it didn't exist, so it could have existed." Logically no one would make a record describing a very specific thing to just state it didn't exist. Records usually describe actions or things which did take place or did exist.
u don't know that u stupid... u didn't live back then! hating will get u nowhere in life!!
@@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816
How have you made it this far being so stupid?
I particularly like Travis Bickle's cameo!
“One day a great flood of red wine will come and wash the streets of Aventide clean.”
Only Malcolm McDowell could’ve played Caligula this well!
Yeah, he should have played Jack the ripper 😂
He was annoying to say the least 🙄.... Until he played Samuel Loomis, in Halloween 2007.
@@ACAPREDDUDE Trying so hard to be different so others can acknowledge your existence LOL Malcolm McDowell is a legendary and one of the best Actors. You probably like johnny depp
@stairwaytoheaven8 Malcolm McDowell had a one-note performance, in 'A Clockwork Orange', and his other films(including this one), were absolute shit!... Oh, and BTW....Johnny Depp is a modern day hero, who has done wonders for men's rights everywhere.
John Hurt did a pretty amazing Caligula in I, Claudius. A different style, for sure, but absolutely chilling.
Macro was confident of rapid promotion for past services but Emperor Caligula was aware of the potential threat Macro posed and soon removed him from office. According to some sources, Macro was promised the governorship of Egypt but upon arriving at Ostia with Ennia to take ship, he was instead arrested and stripped of his office. Macro committed suicide soon after. Macro was able to leave enough money to provide an amphitheatre for his home town of Alba Fucens
A more prosaic death than this one. Amoral, but Caligula was probably astute enough to reflect that a figure who could kill one emperor might be a threat to another.
Your account of Macro is exactly what Robert Graves described in his great novel "I, Claudius".
@@wilhiamas We had the same source. Suetonious who wrote about the first twelve Caesars
That is such an impractical way to behead someone.
Impractical but COOL!
They doing it for the fun , not the practicality of it
Why are they throwing potatoes? That's a new world
They probably figured everyone would have to suspend disbelief for the giant death wall anyway.
Its actually eggs and i think they thought if they got one they wouldnt die.
When the devil takes the form of man and the government
I’d also describe Norman Stansfield from Leòn the Professional.
*"They're all homosexuals who have been castrated."*
That's like a computer CPU chip which has had the smoke liberated from it's epoxy prison.
What's strange is that the term "homosexual" didn't exist back then, they were referred to as Eunuchs by some.
Say what one will about Caligula as an ENTIRE movie "Its BAD" or "Its GREAT!" Blah blah blah yakity yak, THIS has to be among the most awesome scenes in motion picture history!
This is absolutely horrible, all that good food they're throwing and wasting 😦
And heck yeah, Helen Mirren 🔥🔥
Hello, Jerry Jones. actually captivating video. thanks. :)
Hi billy Mays here for the giant Roman wall of death, the fast and easy way to slice and dice them pesky peasants!
It slices! It dices!!! It chicken fried rices!!!!!
Ladies and Gentleman, I present to to you the newly patented DECAPITATOR
Calígula talking about Disney 's top movie writters: 1:04
Cool the first combine harvester
This feels like something envisioned during a bad acid trip.
Helen Mirran a lovely & talented actress im today yrs old finding it in 2022 as a baby boomer i should have known this...
She was the only reason I saw this movie.
Mirren
The actor bahind caligula is soo good
You can never go wrong with Malcolm McDowell.
Great movie!
Killing Macro led to his downfall. The reason the emperor before Caligula lived so long was because he had Macro in his pocket and therefore could control the prefects and any mutiny. Chaerea was quick to kill Caligula when he got the opportunity.
Did such a machine actually exist in ancient Rome, I mean they used to flood the coliseum and have sea battles .
No, this machine does not exist
Clearly the template for Game Of Thrones. MM was perverse and impish as ever, in his role as Caligula.
How sick he was
This movie was bonkers. And obsessed with phallic objects in every degree
Why are there guys on the decapitation machine swinging canoe padels?
Why not?😂
Fellini must have inspired this appalling depraved gem of a film.
Fellini had better taste.
Love it.
So no one is gonna ask how potatoes are in 1th century A.D Rome when The Spanish haven't reached to the Americas in 1400 year later.
good point
Those are eggs, not potatoes.
I saw part of this on TV in college years ago....this scene sticks out.... was this based on a real thing? Its so outlandish and I never heard of it
There are no records of Caligula building something like this, although if he was able he probably would've had it built.
Myth says, the actor was paid to death.
My friends mother hired this on VHS for us when we were 12. A little inappropriate in retrospect.
I saw this in my teens too… the uncut full version!
First time I saw this movie was with my dad. He saw it when he was like 18 years old and it made a huge impression on him so when it got released on DVD he rented it and we watched it together.
Well, you have to understand they had no cable TV nor internet back then and so they had to do something for entertainment.
hey it's that guy from clockwork orange
This has to be the craziest scene in the whole movie. This whole maniacal contraption, like who thinks up this stuff?
They say time is the fire in which we burn!
Not in The Nexus. It’s nice there, me and my bunch of imaginary kids.
@@GizmoBeach Yes, come in. The eggs are on.
1:51 LOL
This scene traumatized me big time as a kid.
Why were you watching this as a kid?
@@HiDesert004 Actually as a teenager, something like 13-14. Like everybody else, I wanted to see the porn scenes. Never before or later have I seen such a long queue in front of the cinema.
"If only all of Rome had just one neck." Cold as ice!!
Sad human behaviour
I cant believe they actually make a building sized wall of death for 1 scene. You harsly even see the full wall. Irl it qas crazy looking and covered in artwork
I always knew he was nuts.
In Japan the title of the film is "Carigura". No joke..
Really?
That's interesting.
Dont forget your taxes😂
he does love a bit of the ol in out😂
How is this allowed to stay on CZcams? It’s so brutal im sick
What would you like with your onion soup?
C: Severed heads
Playboy needs to fund more films.
Don't remember this in the Monty Python question, what have the Romans ever given us?
That has got to be the worst line of dialogue, in a major motion picture, by a renowned actor, I've ever heard.
what's the name of that red machine they're using for beheadings ?
the job as a librarian is likely the perfect job ahahahaha
Is that Jason Miller who's gets beheaded 2nd?
The perfect date movie...
Why they threw eggs 🤔
Caligula invented the first John Deere mower.😂
1:47 Epic!
Where is the blood :(
If all of Rome just had one neck.....
This look like something dark eldar would built
"If only all Wome had just one neck."
Terrifying
i heared dat der wos pumping in dis vidio is dat rite ., . , ? .,
What machine is this called?
Anyone else not going to mention how smokin hot Helen Mirren was? I mean DAMN...
I can’t believe this is a mainstream movie lol a straight fucked up epic
It's...not? It's literally a porno. What the fuck have you been smoking?
@@hotelmario510 it was not made to be a pornographic film. It's an erotic historical drama. It was released mainstream.
I remember this Grabage playing at selective theaters back in 79' when I was 14. It played at The Ziegfield on Broadway where there were lines around the whole street. My dad was forcing my mom to go because Everyone was hyped up about the Pornographic content. But she wouldn't go. According to McDowell,...it's the biggest grossing independent film of all time and biggest Trash !
This was one sick, f**ked up movie.....LOL
What the actual such execution methods existed back then?
This NEVER OCCURRED in Ancient Rome.
Really wish walls like this existed. Malcolm McDowell is great. The fact he played as Alex from Clockwork Orange makes this movie a hybrid of great, but fucked up at the same time
The sightlines from the most of the stands would be terrible for this event.
I need a remake of this movie
Didn’t Caligula used to do this on real life?
no its a hollywood movie how do you think they could make a giant wall of death with spinning blades in ancient Rome? more on
@@flochforster7864 I wasn’t talking about the wall. Of course, that never happened. I just read something a hundred million years ago that he used to make making his guards decapitating his guests at the dinner table a fairly regular thing. I wanted to confirm it.
@@flochforster7864 did he? And not with the wall. Obviously I knew that already.🙄 But with guards.
@@jackphillips3354 Unlikely, but if you can find evidence, I'm open to correction. Historians hate Caligula because for a young, idealistic leader, he was harsh and by today's standards brutal. Remember that Rome did in fact enjoy watching people fight to the death in a Colosseum, so although the stories themselves are likely fiction, they represent what people who lived under his rule thought of it.
When you hear stories from history of controversial leaders doing outlandishly violent things, it will either have an abundant amount of proof, or will be completely made up by their enemies. Caligula was hated during his time and still is hated. Historians claim he went to war with the ocean too. There is seldom evidence besides quotes from historians who lived hundreds of years after him, and coincidentally were biased against him. Lots of Caligula's life is misrepresented to make him look crazy, but he was by no means a gentle emperor.
@@flochforster7864 youre 100% right about all of that. He is right to be hated, and you are right to hate him. But me, I do not think he was a hateful man. He was insane, but I don’t believe he was evil. Not true evil, anyway. As Tiberius said, “I am nursing a viper unto the world!” If you’ve read his history, and I’m sure you have, you know that before he took power he’d spent the entire TWENTY TWO YEARS of his life up till then perpetually in living hell! When his father, one of Rome’s finest generals, died under “mysterious circumstances” when he was only three, the power vacuum he left left a target on the back of his head. He was constantly running and hiding, being shuffled from one sympathetic official to another, as his life was constantly in literal mortal danger. Then he spent another six years in the then emperor Tiberius’s retreat, Caprica. There he hosted orgies regularly, only he was the only one getting off. It wasn’t like National Lampoon’s Animal House in there. Sexual abuse, health hazards, and public humiliation were the foundation pillars Tiberius built that awful place on. Witnesses noted that “you would never have seen a better servant, or a worse master”. He spent his whole life before the throne essentially walking blindfolded in a minefield, while the powers that be had a little pool going on when he was going to take his step. That last bit was figurative, in case that’s not obvious, and you get the wrong idea. Of course, when he began to rule, he seemed to be everything the empire hoped he’d be. Right up until he became violently ill, then when he recovered everything you pinpointed was when it was all down hill from there. When you read his story, YOU see disgust and contempt, I see my childhood and the terrible trauma that came with it. Plenty of his contemporaries had monstrous childhoods that didn’t affect the terrible things they later did: Bundy, Hitler, Gacy, Manson, Ramirez, amongst others. For the above stated reasons, I don’t think Gaius fits among them. Some people are not born monsters. They’re made monsters!!! Through years of abuse❤️🩹🥺 Simply put, although it’s not really simple at all, he just didn’t know any better. It’s not as simple as just waking up, brushing your teeth, going to school, and say “I’m not going to be an evil megalomaniac when I grow up. I’m going to solve world hunger and rescue a kitty from a burning building, and all the forest people will be my friends”. Dude! Nobody would do what the subject of this film did with his life if everything was that black and white. People can’t always understand these things for themselves. Either they don’t get a chance, nobody taught them any better. This guy, Ed Kemper, Charles Whitman, Ted Kaczynski, Tommy Lynn Sells, Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh, Aileen Wuornos, Alexander the Great, Andrei Chikatilo, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Richard Chase, Martin Bryant, Jeffrey Dahmer, Griselda Blanco, John Allen Muhammad, Lee Boyd Malvo, One L Goh, Richard Speck, Henry Lee Lucas, Adam Lanza, and Andrew Kehoe didn’t really get a chance to learn better. It doesn’t excuse what they did at all either, and I’m not saying it does! But some people need help finding the better way, because they’ve become so fucked up from living in hell they don’t know what that is. I’ve seen first hand what that is, com padre. No, I’m not saying that anyone with a shitty enough childhood should have a hunting license. Of course there’s no call for acting that way. I’m just saying Gaius Germanicus didn’t climb in there on his own is all. And that we could learn a lot more if we took more from Frankenstein’s Monster than Frankenstein himself.