The Laughable Response to Customers Misled by Bethesda's Nuka Dark Rum
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عُدي صدّام حُسين he wouldn’t be reporting on Bethesda if they stopped fucking up
Getting a bit desperate for those F76 Patreon-earnings, are we?
They're absolutely full of crap all they had to do is take a regular bottle put fins on it and give it a darker look there you've got Nuka Cola dark rum. Not anything that was hard to do. The only thing this company has done is exactly like the video game industry put the least amount of work and charge you to the hilt for the piece of crap that they give you. So this company that made this product is no better than the industry that they were making it for they're like two peas in a pod.
YongYea,
There is another video I just saw about a company that is called G2A. Not sure if you have heard of it, but it makes me worried on their business practices and how they might influence other companies to do the same. Could you take a look at this video in your free time?
czcams.com/video/we6uuiqQI7E/video.html
Video ^
I'm a 3D design engineer. First, no one wrote any 'code' to produce a 3D model of that bottle. They just opened a 3D modeling program. Second, the design is so basic it would not even take one hour to make a production ready 3D model. Simply put; Silver Screen Bottling Company is lying.
Exactly my first thought. There is absolutely no way in hell this took 100+ hours. Just look at that design! Someone had their modeling program open, pulled up a picture of a Nuka bottle, and just copied that. And hour, maybe a couple if they don't know exactly what they're going for. If it took 100+ hours, fire your modeling team immediately.
Edited because I can't spell.
Maybe I should try printing it myself.
As a Russian hacker, I disagree.
@@cliffturbo2146 That would be a neat idea. Design it so it can fit a standard liquor bottle.
@@xpstudios4183 as a attack helicopter I disagree more
I can't believe EA actually has a rival in "Worst Company of the Year"
Ain't that the goddamn truth. But this dumpster fire just keeps having more fuel thrown onto it.
I have a feeling it will only get worse. There will probably more rivals coming, with how the industry is going
Don't forget about activison tooo
2 rivals.
I have a very hard time choosing EA for this year. Their shitstorms have an air of greed, but Bethesda has both greed and incompetence.
This game is providing me with hours and hours of entertainment and I haven't even bought it.
Same xD
ditto! I almost bought it just so this would keep on going lol or at least to go in and see if the game is THAT bad. (I found out there's zero NPCs and decided not to)
i was deciding if i should get fallout 76 as i love fallout or red dead 2 but i wanted proper reviews on each and i obviously brought red dead 2
MrKagemitsu ikr
Liam Boyce You can pick up 76 for $8 brand new at a GameStop (depends on where you live)
I bet the rum doesn't even have any Rads in it. Tch.
No but Bethesda sure as hell does
Tch
@@Linneom i think you meant "rats"
Keta Andi fucking what mate?
Technically it would, since radiation is actually everywhere in small quantities.
"We decided a glass bottle might break in your nylon dufflebag."
We ran out of matrials.
@@Judgementxxx Glass is very rare.
Hey now! Don't you know that there is a serious Glass shortage?!!
With all that being said, could I interest you in 500 atoms?
So they spent months of design and made a bottle that can't even do what a normal bottle does.
Putting liquid in a cup.
I wish I could like your comment more than once xD
Hmmm, the perfect drink for Fallout 76...after all they spent all that time making a multiplayer Fallout game that couldn't even do what a single player Fallout could do.
Transferring would be a better word.
I bet they finalized it the first day*
Damm!!!! Your comment was pure fire 🔥
To think when EA was going through the shitstorm, I praised Bethesda for not going down the route of greed, oh how that changed.
Expect the unexpected
Roman Bellic You’d understand at the time, the idea of me not ever thinking more and more companies would make the same mistake one after the other.
That feeling when the one you've looked up to becomes as bad and despicable as the one you've been criticizing...
Paid mods were enough already.
Bethesda was one of the first studios to try microtransactions in their games... Look up "oblivion horse armor 2006" and welcome to microtransactions before even EA was using them :D. Trust me you aren't the only Bethesda fan to turn the other way to all the glaring signs this was coming. And don't even get me started on the "creation club controversy."
You know you screwed up when the people who bought your plastic bottled rum can’t even drink their disappointment away because your rum is just as cheap as the bottle it came in
It's actually a perfect metaphor. The vaults were never meant to save anyone, and this product was never meant to please anyone. Just serve the purposes of an amoral, money-grubbing corporation
I think "immoral" would be more accurate.
Amoral means neither good nor bad.
@@DreddPirateRoberts I was thinking more amoral in the lacking a moral compass sense, but immoral does fit a lot better. They have to have known people wouldn't be satisfied with the product, and I can't understand the shortsightedness that would lead to this mess they've made. But amoral ignorance does seem less likely after thinking about it
Lol ok now I understand ! It was their "artistic vision" !
I know for a fact people would've bought it if they had speculatively doubled the price just so they could get the bottle, even if Bethesda has tarnished their own brand, people would buy it. People will always keep coming back to companies that fuck them over, like little pay pigs, they'll buy lootbox after lootbox and down a refreshing $159.99 bottle of rum like the good customer they are. For sure the CZcams game reviewers would snatch it up just so they have something to put in the background.
@@espalorp3286 and this is why ive said id rather put 50+ usd and commission someone to make a nuka cola bottle. Cause as always the fucking fans will do a better job than all of bethesda ever could.
Bethesda will give us 500 Atoms again, and the Nuka Dark Rum skin will be 1000 Atoms.
Andrew Greer They're basically treating us like toddlers, taking away our candy just to give us something different.
Nepuutunes profile pic sauce?
It will actually be 1100 atoms so you have to buy the 500 pack twice
This
Nepuutunes All Neps think alike, I must stop this hive mind.
They honored the game all right..... cheap and misleading....
Bouvard C. But it is an honor, *by Fallout 76 standarts*
Bouvard C. Plastic is more expensive than glass tho...
Alerian Gaming I think it is in most cases, but there are exceptions, besides, glass can be much more hygienic than plastic in many situations, some plastic types can start to break and release tiny particles of plastic that can be very poisonous at consumption, they usually break with heat, and I am talking about around 30~40 Celsius
"Over a 100 hours went in to writing a code for the bottle" that line made my day
*"It cost over 2X what it would have cost* if we would have simply cast a glass mold."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sounds reasonable, i'll order two. -super smart gamer
But its true on 1 part though 😂
Glass is at least twice as expensive as plastic. But twice the selling price??? 😂😂 i think not
THEN CAST THE FUCKING GLASS MOLD!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, why jack up the price if they could:
1- Make a cheaper product
2- Increase the profits
3- BOTH!
That's the most retarded excuse I've ever heard since the Diablo Immortal debacle.
I mean, they did say "We were very deliberate in the creation of this product", so...
Andre Gon Do you guys not have glass?
It does honour the game. A hollow shell that disappointed people.
This^
DAMN. Shots fired.
Well played!
i'd add the overpriced thing aswell but spot on ^^
And anyone who uses it must be drunk...
"We deliberately spent more money on shitty plastic than cheap glass and at least decent rum" Seriously, like, they couldn't have made the cheap glass bottle and then partnered with Capt Morgan or Bacardi for a decent rum? How the hell do some people have a business?
@LazyGamE Ummm.... There is real rum in that bottle, just really crummy rum. While kids do play games, so do adults who are the target audience for this product or did you miss that whole part? Also, what is a fucking photo ID? Seriously there is plenty of shit that MUST be signed for and MUST be checked with a valid photo id when delivered to one's house. If the delivery service doesn't do its due diligence then they would be on the hook for legal repercussions more than the seller since it is being sold online and anyone can simply lie and say yes I am 21 to any website prompt. The only thing stopping these companies from putting out a half decent product was their own idiocy and greed.
@LazyGamE Ummm...you do know that adults play computer games, right?
LazyGamE If we were talking about Mario Kart selling booze you'd have a point but Fallout 76 is rated 18+ where I live. It's ("Officially" like Robocop) intended for adults.
@Klixe123 Worst excuse I've ever heard.
@Klixe123 Are you seriously gonna pretend you were joking?
At least take responsibility for your opinions, ever if they're shit, it's cowardly to do any else.
They say you can't mess rum or beer, then Bethesda came up with this.
Luis E Morales Falcon technically silver screen did but still
Whoever says you can´t mess up beer, didn´t try "Schaumburger Pilsner" beer, yet.
They needed MUNEH
Heh
you havent tried American beer have you
Unbeknownst to the purchaser, the casing was made from melted down Fallout 76 cases from games simply not able to be sold.
So this product doesn't sell either and need to be melted too. I wonder what they'll come up with next. A plastic middle finger?
Mixed with cases of the consoles melted by Fallout 76
Damn man, you need send Todd a complementary tube of burn ointment with that burn.
They were channeling inner ATARI ET games with this!
It's the bags, that's how cheap the "collectible" was.
Said it before, I'll say it again; Had the bottle been glass custom for the product I would have bought it at twice the price and thought it a steal. The moment they made it a plastic piece of crap that I can 3D print at home I stopped caring to spend even a dime.
I work in production and design with 3D Printers. If an employee told me they spent 100 hours designing and redesigning this I would have immediately ask if they were new or stupid. All you have to do is scale up the 3D glass model around the bottle of liqour, cut out the top for the cork, put in connection points on each half, put it into a slicing software, and press print. It is quite literally that easy. IF someone really did spend 100 hours on this they need to be fired for wasting company time and money.
Sunset Sasparilla never sounded so good.
@Alex M I don't even care about the contents is the problem. Could probably do a mixed something to tolerate it and clean it out thoroughly afterward. But my main gripe is with them saying they designed it as they did. It pisses me off because they're either lying through their teeth about the time they spent on it or the company as a whole is incompetent for allowing anyone to spend that much time on a plastic piece of crap that ANYONE who pours liquid out of a bottle could have told you would not work effectively. And the crap about them saying it would stand out on a bar? Wouldn't the shape of a glass bottle do the same? Incompetence taken to a whole other level.
Alex M forget it being disgusting the drink can't even pour out properly without having to spill everywhere
Yeah.. not even designing AND printing the prototype in parts on a 4" x 4" cheapo printer in your livingroom would take 100 hrs lol, these guys are full of it
100 hours of design yet it can't even be poured properly lol
Using glass not dramatic enough.....uses plastic and they got plenty of drama now.
Lol it’s so bullshit. Glass looks way better than plastic and they know it. They probably just cheaped out and picked plastic. I bet it only costs $20 to make each bottle.
You don't "Write code" to create a 3D model....
Yeah wtf are they saying 😂
If you did write code for a 3D model, the bottle would have a big neck, disappear randomly, and phase through walls.
I mean you can write gcode which gives instructions for how to machine it. Yes its a horrible way to do it, especially for prototypes on a cnc machine or printer, but it can be done.
@@tankkiler308 Wouldn't be surprised if that is what they were going for. Sounds like whoever did this was inexperienced and wants rewarded for their hard work attempting to do something the wrong way
@@AesculapiusPiranha if someone wanted to try to write g-code for this bottle and their not a CNC god, then its gonna one hell of a time and actually makes sense, even the npc's at headquarters are glitched lol
The intent is to provide buyers with a sense of pride and accomplishment for buying our bottles.
I am never, ever, going to look at pride and accomplishment the same way after last year....
They probably talked like that to bethesda when they presented the product, which probably helped the product’s approval.
LMAO
Toaster hahaha. Good one!!
This had potential. From a marketing standpoint this could have easily depleted Silver's stock of Nuka Rum and had demand for more. But they fucked it up; as seems to be the growing trend with Bethesda recently.
I am surprised the bottle was not made out of nylon.
Or cardboard stolen from a hobo
The shell probably is made out of nylon. PA66, a type of nylon, is one of the most common plastics for molding.
More like plastic...oh wait, it is.
@@jayleno2192 i'm not very informed about different 3d printing plastics, but is that cheap plastic they used on the nuka dark rum outer shell casing?
phonier than you the shell isn 3D printer, its inyected and by the looks it seems like cheap abs or pe
4:14 "Not dramatic enough" well plastic sure is dramatic, will all the drama going through.
To further add insult to injury as well, the "glass is too expensive to mass produce" Is another bs excuse as well considering a 3D mold print of a glass bottle of that design (and for the sake of matching its 750ml bottle inside the plastic case) A 750ml glass bottle with a few bits of excess glass IE: the arms for the rocket bottle, would cost around 0.05 to 0.16 cents per bottle made, and it's really sad to see how much of a blatant cash grab this has become. I'm thankful I didn't get either fallout 76, or nuka cola dark, and I hope the ones who did buy either one honestly get their money back or at least file a law suit against bethesda for fraud by omission (I think that's the correct term here) But as it stands now, the grave these people keep digging with their golden guilded shovels is only getting deeper and their rope to safety is breaking
I doubt they ever expected to have a million plus production run so those bottles are probably going to be about five bucks each after all's said and done. Still a far cry from eighty goddamn dollars and, get this, they could've gotten away with it too! People would've just been talking about how shitty their watered-down rum would taste and none of them would be aware of some dumb fuck prototype that involved injection molded plastic.
Also you don't have a "3D mold print" you have mold that's been machined. Injection molded plastic calls for steel and you're not going to get away with anything less. Not for something that size and that complex.
It's not even just Bethesda most of AAA gaming this year has been digging a hole for itself. PUBG has been struggling since Fortnite got big. EA's complete failure of BFV and their PR department has hit them hard, Bethesda has done this, and Activision's hole is I guess the least severe out of the group though shows all the signs of modern shooters. Rockstar and RDR2 along with Epic Games and Fortnite are the only big games that managed to escape anything really bad.
@@y0l0wardog76 Blizzard left Activision, because of the stupid cash grab they were pushing Blizzard to include in Destiny 2.
The only one left standing is Epic Games, because their motto seems to actually be "player experience first"!
In Britain it would definitely be false advertising, which could mean a huge fine from Trading Standards. Hope some people here take it to them. Thankfully I gave up on Bethesda half way through fallout 4.
I was supposed to get my bottle today but my delivery driver glitched into a wall.
I suppose it's better than being trampled by one of their Brahmin....
Do you want fallout points as a refund
@@hazmat9279 lmao 😂😂😂
My courier got shot in the head and went a savage revenge murder spree
@TheHobbitMonster that's ironic..... because it's in vegas..... get it? Cus gambling? Ok I'll show myself out...
They should have had an open beta for the bottle.
b.e.t.a*** xd
Maybe after the beta, the bottle would have been, “b e t a”. I know it’s a stretch of a pun.
Probably would have really made people break it!
Beta anda switcha.
I would have been working or sleeping while they opened up the time frames for the beta lmao
2018: Lootboxes drama and shitty business practices
2019: Same as before, but starting to look like 1983 all over again.
What happened in 1983?
@@Yui_Delta , I think he reffers to the videogame crash of 1983 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983
Bethesda: "sorry, we ran out of glass"
Fallout 3: Where's my dad?
Fallout 4: Where's my son?
Fallout 76: Where's my refund?
Lmao
Thats old
Elazul2k where’s the originality
Elazul2k fallout new vegas: where is bethesda,s crappy writing
*SHAUN!*
Saw Bethesda on Steam's list for "Best Developer of 2018."
Is it safe to say they won't win?
Not against CDPR
Cj Dill but CDPR haven’t even made anything this year
@@Hys868 they made thronebreaker, which is an excellent game
CDPR doesnt need to do anything with how everything is going these days, plus its CDPR. no way in hell its going to be anyone else.
@@Hys868 If so, at least they didn't make enormous mistakes like the others did.
3D printer says it all. They went for the cheap option. Greedy shmucks.
3D printing is cheap for prototyping, making a product by 3D printing isn’t cheaper than by molding. It can be more expensive, depends on the amount made.
Still cheap, since it’s plastic.
Yes, using a 3D printer for mass production is not a wise move.
they 3d print a prototype so they dont have to fully produce a new model every time they make a new design until they have a good production model ready
why do they need to take 100 hours writing code ? Surely a simple 3d model created in any 3d modelling app would have been sufficient imfo for a 3d printer..or is there something more complicated about using 3d printers that im ignorant about?
@@renfield2020 i can confirm 3d printers can use (and that is what they use 95% of the time) 3d models from different 3d modeling softwares. And this bottle would take an average 3d designer maybe 2 or 3 hours for a parametric model, making it easy to modify and tweak. I am willing to bet no more than 10 hours were spent on the finished model for the case
I am still waiting for the nylon Vault-suits :D
Hey they might look good on the ladies at least.
@@DukeWooze yeah that what I am thinking about.........them curve......them shape.........ouff that would be smoking hot mate.....but if men wearing them pls nooo unless u are gay or something...
@@Mr-Ad-196 Liken' dem curves.
@@DukeWooze curves i love
We're sorry you feel deceived = We're sorry you're calling us out on our deliberate deceptive marketing.
Thats exactly the word that came to my mind when i was watching the video
"Over 100 hours were spent writing the code to create the 3d-printed prototype"
Damn i want three doses of whatever that "coder" and the writer of these statements had during the making
It takes time to make 3d models on a commodore 64. They can't just get a new system when everyone is so used to the one they have.
@@peytonmac1131 Commodore 64 nah bro that is too expensive! Are you kidding me they probably used a typewritter to make the "CODE" for the supposed 3d model. Lmao
@@peytonmac1131 You meant a vault tec terminal ;)
I JUST CNANOT BELIEVE WITH THIS REASON!
If only they spent 100 hours on writing their own damn code to fix the bugs we've had in their engine for the past 10 years...
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DESTRUCTION 100
Meme 2000
Charisma -9999999999
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8:15
*Drinks alchohol*
"Can I swear on this?"
Shoots self in foot. Shoots self in other foot. Cuts off arms. Proceeds to crawl forward by failing.
Requirements to join Bethesda marketing team.
Remember-------> it just works.
It's just a flesh wound!
This reminded me of a shitty Japanese baseball manga where the main character broke his right hand pitching, then broke his left hand, and finally becomes a batter.
"Look, you stupid bastard! You've got no arms left!"
Refund? You will get 150 Atoms.
Neia Baraja *No refunds allowed until you pre order Fallout 5-75*
FinalSlayer bet they’ll all be on the same engine tho
@@ChimneyCrab737 Same engine lol. How embarrassing. Bethesda is a shame
They should be ashamed, honestly that’s insulting 😂😂😂
i hope they at least offer 8000 atoms before saying "yah actualy fuck atoms get your money back"
Bethesda...
Bethesda never changes.
no, bethesda has changed for the worse over the years
Folor Bipple whoooooosh
I see what you did there 😏
5$ product cost, at an 80$ selling point. This was intentional.
*_ persuasion failed, customers will remember that_*
Nice comment.
As someone that works as a machine operator for a plastic injection moulding company, I can tell you that the cost of making those plastic shells is not as high as they want it to sound like. The only expensive part of the entire process is the price of the tool that has to be made to mass produce them. These can cost around £10,000 - £50,000, depending on the size and complexity of the tool, and I can easily see from the shape and details of the shells that they are not complex. Additionally these tools can run for over a decade with very little loss in quality, giving it plenty of time to pay for itself and make a tidy profit.
Once the tool is made however, creating each mould costs mere pennies, and hundreds or even thousands can be made every single day at a very low cost. For example, my company makes parts of equal size to these bottles and each one costs the company around 50p to make, if not less than that, every single day in numbers bordering on thousands.
This is nothing less than a cash grab, attempting to sell supermaket value rum at an incredibly high price purely through novelty casing, at a time when the franchise involved is at it's lowest point and being watched by every games and media reporter waiting for them to make another mistake.
@ do you happen to own a microphone? because i believe your next move is to drop it and walk away.
I think they said it cost 2x more because the product still have a glass bottle inside the plastic shell. So, 2x more than a simple glass bottle.
They were 3D printed not injection molded.
People like you are why I love the internet, always great to hear some insider info, thank you !
@SugarDaddy1963 the engine is 20 years old actually
There’s a spanish channel called *”Whathegame”* that used your video to make his own and he didn’t mentione you.
He do speaks english if you wanna talk to him
omfg =))))))))))) @u562
@U562 omfg =))))))))))) so they are 3 wow
If he put commentary over it it's called "fair use" Nothing he could do.
kido fear English please?
Xev Jesus you’re fuming
I am sadly more and more convinced that some game developers and publishers really think of us as idiots with no knowledge of anything...!
Well, this bottling company just got a very hard introduction to how intelligent this new batch of customers happens to be. I'm sure developers are used to the fans calling them on their shit, but the bottling company's PR person made the bizarre decision to admit they took the harder, more expensive route to give an inferior product instead of the cheaper product the customers actually expected.
I'm somewhat convinced that 4chan did actually awaken an ancient Egyptian frog god of chaos in 2016 and since then he has cursed Bethesda after getting frustrated with the bugs in Markarth on his first playthough.
If they can make bottles that look like skulls for 40$, they should be able to make the rocket shape for the same price or cheaper!
And Crystal Skull is a pretty decent drink.
Yeah its pretty good, won the price for best vodka like 5 times so they could have put a lot more quality into their rum pretty dissapointing
Talking about Dan Akroyds vodka?
There's bottles of vodka shaped like AK47s so this is a sad excuse
@@sowhat3260 Or tequila shaped like a revolver.
Ironic that a bottle of rum costs more than Fallout 76 itself. That's our first sign that this was a ripoff.
Did it come in a garbage bag?
Brother Malachai Paper. They tried garbage bags, but eventually decided to go with the paper bags that were 2x more expensive for the “big and bold” factor.
They should have sent me a text. I could have told them that everything they were doing was a bad idea
No but they need a guy with a piece of paper to tell them.
Bethesda; cheap cold plastic shell of a company it used to be.
Kinda like the shell on the rum
"we made a bottle of rum in plastic instead of glass to have the casing represent a vault" ... Instead of let's say, a bottle made of glass to represent... A bottle made of glass?
the bottling company said "would be twice as expensive had they used a glass mold" it's on that source link he provided in the summary. Personally, I just think they wanted to increase their "profit" margins (reducing cost to make bottle and using cheap rum) (Bethesda is supposed to receive all profits from the nuka dark rum sale)
@@alexhurlbut No, hes saying the plastic version is twice as expensive than the glass version would have been, and that they went with the plastic one because its more premium. Which is complete bullshit.
@@gamergeek494 oh what, I have to read it again slowly and more carefully. They went with plastic which cost two times more than simply casting the bottle as glass?
@@alexhurlbut Thats what the statement says. Now I have no idea about costs, especially limited run productions like this so I cant speak to wether plastic or glass would be more or less expensive than the other. But the fact that he says they took the more expensive route for the obviously lesser product says a lot about their intelligence or the bullshit on display in their response.
It likely cost double to R&D. There's no way a normal bottle, mediocre rum and a Matchbox toy costs more per unit in bulk than casting each of those bottles with fins in glass and a decent rum.
*"Over 100 hours were spent writing the code to create the 3D-printed prototype of the shells"* - Said the guy that clearly had no idea how 3D printing works... -
How stupid is this guy or rather how stupid does he think the customers are.... I can't decide which one.
mufugen bixnood ikr I lost it at that part who on earth could actually be that clueless
Maybe the (obviously exaggerated) 100 hour figure includes the print time?
Hey, maybe some designer, paid by the hour, decided to write the gcode by hand :p
@@keilafleischbein59 yeah, for all bottles combined xD
There are some stupid people out there that would buy into the lie
My freind has a 3D printer and can take a model out of a game file, do something with it (idk what) and within only half an hour he can print It off easily. He put a model of the map dust from CSGO on thingiverse
"Cardboardy taste and flavor. That is terrible!"
$80,lol.
Hundreds of hours? You know what, challenge accepted. I'm going to make the bottle in fusion 360, from start to finish and print one.
Let's see how long it takes.
I'm not even any good with fusion.
Keep us posted bro you got this
they spent 100 hours writing code to make a bottle casing for a bottle they already know the shape of it should only take a few hours or at max 7-10 hrs not 100
Bruh, they said it took them hundreds of hours to "write the code for the 3d print".
Wtf? What can take hundreds of hours is the modelling. Wich I doubt it took that long. To 3D print you only have to export the file on .stl format. It's a 2 second process.
@@nadiedeinteres1285 hundreads of hours for the shape of a bottle that they should know the shape of easily?
PKTEK do this and post it on Thingiverse, I’m pretty sure you can do a better job
"If you don't like our rum's glassware and false advertising, write us an essay on the Better Business Bureau. We'll acknowledge your complaints by paying to have your essay removed."
edit: typo
Write*
@@EsteemedReptile IT's nices to saw some 1 corracting grammers. I ca'nt stood incarrected whritings
They won't pay to have your essay removed. They'll just threaten the Bureau with lawsuits. Scums are too greedy to shell out money unless they have no other choice.
the better business bureau isn't government owned. you pay to be certified by them.
@@bobbybologna3029 It's all fault of preorder culture, really; buying blindly. Although if you saw the previous video on this topic by YongYea, there was definitely some misleading presentation as they started advertising (and selling) before even finalizing the product. It's not very unlike the Canvas Bag situation too from the Power Armor Edition.
Young when they said bar I think they mean personal bars. Many people have "bars" out their homes. It's like a small counter with storage for alcohol bottles in a den
right, not everyone downs the whole bottle as soon as they get it...
it had $60 (because its fallout) tax on it.
"it costs 2x what it would have if we would have simply cast a glass mold"
Then why did you do it.
Shoulda just saved costs and made it outta glass then :D
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"Fallout standards"
@@lancewang4923 Yeah, it can't meet fallout standards unless they lose a lot of money going out of their way to fuck up the customer.
Not sure if you read that right... Means it would cost 2 times as much if they did cast it in glass.. which still is utter bs.
100% up to fallout standard, I don't understand what make people mad since they clearly state that it was up to fallout standard.
It took me a second to get it 😂
Almost a woooosh
To be fair, they should precise "Fallout 76 standard" (or "Bethesda 2018 standard")
"Your joke is good and you should feel good!"
Literal Nuka-Cola corporation standards, i.e. a ridiculously overpriced bad quality product, just like the Nuka-Cola corporation would sell. I think Bethesda might be taking the Fallout lore a little too seriously and trying to role play as a corporation from the Fallout timeline...
True, it's sad to see said standards to be so damn low.
Wow over 100 hours!? That's like 2 and a half weeks of work! ... so I would expect them to put some work into something so expensive?? That's not a lot of development time for such a production.
I'm sorry, what? 100 hours writing the code for a 3D model? What code exactly? I've used plenty of goddamn 3D modeling softwares and at no point did I have to "code" any single thing I've 3D printed. Are they referring to the final render they threw up on their site? Because I have no doubt in my mind that even an amateur 3D artist can replicate that, in a fraction of the "100 hours" they spent making it, IN BLENDER.
A modder did the bottle in 8 hours, and man, that's a good bottle
Bethesda: So people are saying Fallout 76 is shit... Now, how can we make those people actually taste that shit?
Nuka Dark Rum? Perfect.
This
I love this comment
At least it's more than Yong gives his Patreons in exchange for their money. Who's worse?
Harvard wants to know your location
It just works
They were just trying to make a bottle that reflected the quality of the game...
Kyle Hamrick lol nice 👏🏻
Mission accomplished, then!
So, what you are trying to say is that Todd Howard personally pissed in every single bottle?
Which is worse. Nuka dark rum or fallout 76
Fallout 76 gives you more for the price, but the rum is better than the game. Up to you to decide which you'd prefer
@@ronniejames9251 Watching Bethesda burn to the ground.
Both will give you a headache.
I mean, atleast Fallout 76 can change over time, unlike a physical... thing.
atleast I can get so blackout drunk on the rum I can forget that 76 ever even happened.
I stumbled on your channel by chance, and thank you for doing what you do! I personally can't play AAA games because I don't own a console or a good enough computer, but I like to know what's going on in the world of gaming, and your channel is an excellent overview of most important news, which I'm definitely gonna stick with.
Basically they’re saying: “we’re sorry you feel this way of being deceived”
No they are saying I’m sorry you paid 80$ just to get scammed.
They're not sorry, that's the issue. They're saying "We don't want you to feel this way, stop bitching, stop giving us bad press and shut the hell up so you can buy our shit. We can do whatever we want, scam whomever we want, and we'll get away with it. STFU.". That's my estimation at least.
It's not even basically what they're saying; it's literally what they're saying.
"... we are sorry that you feel that you were in any way deceived" is a direct apportioning of blame onto the consumer, telling people that they shouldn't be feeling deceived in the first place.
That said, I'll give a modicum of respect for ANY response. This is only the bottling company's response and they should have never been obliged to issue a statement at all; that should be Bethesda, who commissioned these plastic bottles on behalf of THEIR paying customers.
100+ hours coding just to make a plastic bottle???
Are they liars or do they just suck?
Why not both?
@Zanard Bell Blender is not made for 3d printing but it shouldn't take more than a day in any program.
@Zanard Bell Dude... it's a fucking bottle. A day? Should take less than an hour, and that's being completely new to the software. Not counting textures ofc, not that they'd need any for a printable 3D model.
It’d take 5 hours in solidworks... it’s not fuckin’ rocket science
There is no "coding" involved in creating a 3D model to be printed. The PR department clearly has no fucking clue what they're talking about. The "100 hours coding" is just bullshit, maybe _MAYBE_ it took 100 hours of 3D modelling but if that is accurate, fire your designer(s) right now. Immediately.
Can I get this on mobile?
This is reminiscent of the, “canvass is in short supply” excuse during the bag debacle.
A novice 3D artist could design that plastic shell in a couple hours
yup as a 3d artist I know people it can.
My collegues in computer science did shit like that in 12 hours.. and sent the file to queue, that's all.
A hacker could rip the existing nuka cola file and import it into Pepakura, and then a 3d printing app in hours. No work necessary, just digging and filetype conversions.
Fuck bethesda, their fans make superior replica props.
Heck I could probably make that shit in blender and I have literally zero 3D modeling experience at all
I literally know nothing of 3D design, yet I know I could in about 2-3 days time learn all the 3D design (3D printing aswell) basics online (CZcams, etc.), then apply the learned knowledge to design that same plastic shell.
Over 100 hours of programming just for the prototype shell? Complete BS!
This rum is giving you the Fallout 76 experience. Overpriced disappointment.
Hmm hmm very clever good sir
To rum's credit, it at least smells like coconut.
Oh snap!
Your videos are pure content, no bullshit, no sugarcoating, love it.
the big tell for me was the big partially photo-shopped out seam running down the side in the promo image, the kind of seam you get on hollow plastic merch, from starwars blasters to nerf and water guns.
At this point im just waiting for Bethesda to accidentally sell their company and accidentally close fallout 76 servers without giving its player refunds, then asking for their credit card info to give refunds and accidentally take all the money from the account.
Then say that they clearly had alternate intentions and that people should bear with it.
They were supposed to shut down their servers at the start of 2019, so no one would realize the nukes weren't programmed, but the shutdown command was bugged.
I wouldn't be surprise to be honest
I paid £24 on boxing Day, anyone paying about £24 was inpatient
"Vault of its own." So it's advertised as one thing, but is actually a social experiment?
Bethesda = VaultTec confirmed
Tell Lou that is your vault
Enjoy the fireworks
it's just a prank bro
1tmildew strike Bethesda
You've cracked the code.
I have a theory they did have the glass bottles but they delayed it so they can change it to plastic and raise the price because of the nylon bags
The bottle was coded with the creation engine...so if you have one keep it away from walls as it may clip through them.
“ThIs Is A pRoDuCt We ArE eXtReMeLy PrOuD oF.”
Up to Fallout standards for sure.
Arctraxiel lmao 😂😂😂
So many quotes from clueless, tone-deaf companies lately, it's rather shocking.
Remember when they delayed release because it wasn't up to Fallout standarts? I'm pretty sure it was actually too good back then.
The glass bottle wasn’t dramatic enough? So plastic is supposed to be more dramatic. What?
Dramatically bad
It's un-apologetically plastic.
Sure is, caused much more drama than a glass bottle could have. ;)
Well,it caused a lot of drama... :v
something , something chineese child labour for plastic making it dramatic enough?
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I think when they say ‘bar’ they’re referring to a kitchen bar at home. But yeah more disappointment from Bethesda.
They didn't even use the actual bottle im💀
Greed, Greed never changes.
Bethesda, Bethesda never changes.
"FUCK you! Give me your money ;D" - Bethesda
Can confirm.
Nice
Make a crappy over-priced product that your customers didn't want? That is actually honouring the spirit of Fallout 76
Mike Mullen 🙏preach sister
I don’t know about online sales but here in Maine if your buy a bottle in the store you cannot return it. State law prohibits returns of alcohol an tobacco.
100 hours on the code for the 3D printed prototypes? I could literally go to thingiverse and get a Nuka cola bottle printing in minutes
Honestly you can't write this stuff, the plastic bottle after the nylon bag!? Golden
Bethesda suicide note: "Bury me with a nylon bag at my feet and a plastic bottle at my head."
Ah, no, you see, this is a result of the glass shortage that followed the canvas shortage
I'm laughing so hard hahahahahahaha
And people thought EA was the worst.
Todd and his untold arrogance of greed is hilarious.
Having done plastic mold design and CNC, they are lying. Glass is much more expensive to make and mold. Also, there is no code written. There is a 3D model in a computer, then the programs create the code. The programs create all the CNC pathing for the mold making, tell which cutters to use, etc. It's mostly automated. Lying their asses off.
They tell that in the hope we are stupid enough to belive it
is that a surprise?
And that lie would have worked if they told it to a non tech savvy costumer. Standard for the industry, sad to say.
Nice to see a fellow CNC user. I'm leaning how to use one in my highschool. It's really fun and cool
@JosieCat lol, you can make 2 and sell one of them in the next 5-10 years for profit
I think the intention behind the statement that “it will stand out on any bar” is that people are presumed to be putting it on a rgb lit pedestal in they’re dining room or more feasibly a drinks cabinet
How about the fact that the advertised colour is almost an amber yellow, wholly black with full volume, vs the almost light red of the actual product?
It's just the beta bottle guys come on wait for the full release...
W
It’ll be the same in two weeks when it’s fully released.
I'm sure modders will fix it. Somehow...
@@QuantumFluxable Modders are getting banned. Moonshiners are getting jailed.
Okay, but only if the glass bottle is a paid DLC.
"This is a project we are extremely proud of..." Oh I'm sure you are, you were able to swindle customers out of $80 for a bottle of shitty rum in a cheap plastic shell.
@Michael Nilson Battlefront? I think you mean Black Ops 4
"100 hours were spent just writing code.." where your coders 1st graders?!!! LOL .
The original image is not of a plastic bottle holder. It does not have seams, like the plastic bottle that was shipped. The seamless bottle pictured does look like opaque glass.
That "cost over 2X" what a glass version would cost is bullshit. If that is what they billed Bethesda for, then Bethesda got taken for a ride (and they deserve it, frankly). There is no way in hell such a cheap plastic mold wold cost more than a quality glass one.
When the scammers get scammed...
The weird part is they made a plastic bottle...to store a glass bottle. HTF is this saving money?
Actually sadly blowing glass in a mold can be cheaper then a plastic mold. Glass is fairly simple where as plastic can be a right pain in the ass. Also remember if they made the glass bottle they wouldn't have to buy a bottle and make the plastic mold so ya they spent more to make a lesser product. Also plastic because its annoying to work with ya they literally chose the harder more difficult option that is also worse. The level of stupid is hilariously high.
It's a glass bottle INSIDE a plastic bottle. So I guess that might be how they are coming up with "cost over 2x". They probably got taken for a ride though, or it might be nepotism.
@@sharkexpert12 Didn't even use a plastic mold - they 3D printed them.
I CANNOT wait for this years bethesdas E3 conference. Lmao.
Sadly people will cheer for every word they mutter.
@@frozenfury0 if people ate blizzard alive at BLIZZCON, bethesda is gonna get wrecked in e3
Imagine Todd Howard walking on to stage... what a shitshow that'll be
Jake Metti they’ll tout more creation club garbage
somebody should bring 80's boombox and play sweet little lies when todd come onto the stage
I noticed in the 'Product Note' picture, they repeatly said what 'we wanted' and not what 'the customers would want'. Which would set off a few alarms there.
Honestly just because you've spent a lot of time on it it doesn't always mean that it's always, 100% going to be a good product. Personally if I hypothetically were to drink at a bar or choose from a selection of alcohol and that bottle was there... I would seriously go for something else. Plastic encased bottles just doesn't sound appealing and isn't aesthetically pleasing to see someone take the bottle out of the casing either... And it shows as a lot of people don't even like the drink... Why didn't they just partner with Coca cola? at least their soda tastes good and it's well known, I never heard of this company till now. :/
also I still stand by the argument that it looks like plastic only because looking at the comparisons you showed the bottle on the right's material looks more... like something else and plastic's surfaces makes light shine a different way than other opaque glass. But I do stand by what you said that it's the company's job to make it clear to the consumer about their material, the drink etc. They don't even explain what kind of rum it is or the fact it's encased like that.
Tbh I don't think they really care? If they can afford to make these many mistakes I don't see how they couldn't make canvas bags or a uniquely shaped black, GLASS bottle.
inb4 Silver Screen accidentally leaks everyone's information.
"We're sorry..."
As a rum drinker and gamer I was initially intrigued but the price and the fact I'm in the UK meant I was definitely going to wait for reviews.
I'm not surprised it would taste bad.
Big warning is the prominence of "caramel color" - to me this screams of cheap white rum with added colour and flavourings, not golden or dark rum matured properly in casks (which takes years so no surprise). Their "sommelier" should know at least that if he truly is someone with that qualification but stick to wine and not mess around with subtle spirits he obviously doesn't know anything about.
Hell what I consider a cheap rum I'd buy for myself costs £20 ($25), a decent one costs way more. This means, with no great surprise, that most of the cost is down to the IP from fallout, which judging by the taste reviews and my own suspicions make up around 90-95% of the cost with the rum being swill you couldn't sell any other way. Coupled with the shoddy plastic outer, and yes I don't accept the insane excuse (for instance 100 hours for 3D modelling means you're either really bad at it or plain talking crap), my summary says - RIP OFF !
You Brits know your liquor. I don’t drink so it seems all so similar to me XD
I imagine Carmel Color isn’t exactly a sign of quality though XD
vereybowring Very enlightening comment, thank you
vereybowring Hey I’m just getting in to Rum, can you name a few for me, in the UK too. I’ve tried Kraken, but then tried Black Magic which I found way better. Is Havana good?
@@redlightning0001 All comes down to taste and there are white, golden, dark and they can be spiced also (I prefer unspiced gold rums mostly). When looking at rum decide which "colour" suits your taste buds best and next consideration is age - like whisky the longer they age it usually the smoother and more flavoursome is the rum. Havana club is fine for general mixing e.g. rum and coke and some of their more aged versions are fine for drinking solo. My favourite cheaper rum is called Mount Gay (unfortunate name but nice). In my younger days I drank the full dark rums like Woods 100 but that is more to do with alcohol level than taste as the strong dark rums tend to be far "warmer" on the way down lol.
@@redlightning0001
My Dad's very fond of Rumbullion Navy Strength. He also likes Kraken, Lamb's, El Dorado 12 year, but he said Rumbullion's by far his favourite. Very noticeable vanilla bouquet.
If I had the money they had access to, I think I could very easily make some glass bottles. Hell, if they wanted to do it with the finish, they could probably get some ceramics stamped out in some way then sanded down after being fired and then refired with glaze if you want a shinier appearance. All it requires is a furnace and molds, and if they have a 3d printer they can make molds rather easily (the reason I propose ceramics is because it could be slipcast then fired without the need for as hot a furnace as with glass)