The Boeing Scandal Just Got A LOT Worse
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- In just over a week since the last episode, a lot has happened with Boeing. From miss management of the manufacturing process to the death of a whistle blower. In this episode we'll take a look at all of that and also Boeing's close ties to the US government.
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A quick update, the engine spitting flames and the aircraft running off the runway weren’t the fault of Boeing as per latest reports.
That being said, the incident with the 50 passengers injured was quoted as a “technical problem” and the pilot “lost instrumentation” indicating a Boeing issue. The others are still under investigation, however since they are all Boeing planes in the incidents, it's just not a good look for them unfortunately.
Boeing lost its credibility in 5-10 years. Something is terribly broken with its management
You're going to need an update on your update. Maybe ask an expert about these things before publishing glaring and embarrassing errors.
@@SDCDIABLO Yup, that is a possibility.
The Sydney/NZ flight lost all instrument visuals (the aircraft shut down) over international waters.
Was it a fuel problem.
Flight control box and cabin chatter will soon work that out.@@SDCDIABLO
They killed that man.
He was “suicided”
No ones surprised.
they called Hillary and had him dealt with
Let me guess. The self inflict gunshot wound was to the back of the head?
Easyyyyyy!
A testament to Boeing's quality control.
Don't even have time to make a murder look less suspicious.
Court begins soon alright? Gotta fit the schedule alright?
@@namlehai2737 what do you mean?
@@erdood3235 read it in a mafia type voice
That's cold....I can't imagine what the family would be dealing with
@@erdood3235Murder made to look like suicide
I'm guessing all the cameras in the building he was in magically stopped working, the security guard fell asleep, nobody saw or heard anything, etc. We've heard it all before...
I even heard some bs from a prosecutor once that a police security camera video got damaged in their own building LOL!
Thanks for deleting my comment YT
@@androidphone1901 YT must have boeing shares lol
@@cmgm6027 Or it could be that Boeing had shares in YT! 🤣🤣🤣
He died in his RV but the timing seems so suspicious
The disrespect of a dead man is unbelievable.
He literally said, in a last effort to be heard, that "IF I DIE THIS ISN'T A SUICIDE".
And yet here we are even questioning it like "maybe it was".
Fcking disgusting, really.
Nobody is questioning dat shit
I don’t think most people are mocking his suicide, quite the opposite Boeing is being mocked. That brave man, Mr. Barnett did not kill himself. I feel empathy for his family. And I wish there was a way his family could get the money he deserves, however since they made it look like a suicide, he may not even get a life insurance policy, that makes me angry, actually. His family deserves better. So yeah Boeing has a lot to answer for.
Yeah we know that wasn’t suicide especially after the other Boeing whistleblower Joshua Dean died a week later after having trouble breathing, getting pneumonia & suddenly dying at age 45…
Boeing paid all the cops that were investigating his murder case. This is sick man.
Key witness assassinated, insider trading, missing records...and this is not a movie. Just wow.
My nephew and his highschool buddies worked on putting together wiring harnesses for Boing, highschool kids, after the management takeover! 2002-2004😅
movies are more often than not are loosely based on realty does it not?
ALL THE WORLD IS A STAGE
just an average day in america
Indeed they should make a film about this, in the years to come
Boeing Engineers saying they won't fly on the very planes they were making is wild AF.
They are not engineers, they are workers/technicians.
Boeing doesn't have any engineers left - just greedy rich people who don't care if you die
@@swunt10 the point still stands. Imagine your car mechanic saying that shit
@@swunt10engineers as well
It's not just production but design which has been heavily degraded
@swunt10 So it's not the people designing them, but the ones doing the actual building and maintenance. That's even worse.
Netflix has a Boeing documentary. If they hadn’t removed it yet, I strongly suggest you watch it. It’s crazy.
thanks just watched
Netflix need to release part 2 of the documentary. There's too many incidents to cover.
Sure it's loaded with truth.
I dont have Netflix a hole
@@droppeddogspirate
I have a new mantra: "If it's a Boeing I ain't going." I used to say "Unless it's a Boeing I ain't going". I was a Flight Instructor and General Aviation Pilot in the 1990's. Unless it's a Cessna forgetaboutit.
I think that's the new mantra here in Indonesia since the MAX incident. Most domestic flights now run on Airbus 232, we used to board Boeing 737 in the past. Hopefully, Boeing can get their feet up.
But we used better english in the past... As the planes continued to improve... If it's not Boeing I'm not going. Let the good times roll. Might spend some time looking at the concept of denominators in statistical analysis. It is a pretty important concept.
what are your thoughts on Airbus?
@@sandyhamburg2727 I remember the Airbus accident at the Paris airshow where the plane wouldn't let the pilot climb and it went into a forest of trees and exploded. They were developing the "fly by wire" technology instead of having cables connected to the flight controls they are they are electrical connections to servos and actuators. It's why I don't fly commercially anymore. But then again I have no need to fly so there's that. I feel safer driving.
As a Brit, it is staggering to me how Congress and Senators are allowed to invest in companies over whom they legislate.
Well, just think of it as the counterpart to things like your "Sovereign Grant"
@@JizzSock_ - I'm also British and you clearly didn't read the thing you copied from
@@JohnnyWednesdayIsn't there such a thing as "the king's privilege", where he can preemptively veto a piece of legislation before the House of Commons even approves of it?
And this is like a fraction of the tip of the iceberg... Johnny Harris made a whole 30m video titled "Why are politicians so DAMN RICH?!" about insider trading in politics showing off lots of prime examples and it's almost comically how common it is.
@@aycc-nbh7289 the monarchy used it extensively in order to get carve outs of legislation to evade emissions and waste regulations for royal palaces and for tax evasion laws for the existing royal dependencies (that hold £billions in untaxed wealth)
I don't understand how little that death is being talked about. It's unbelievable.
It’s literally a psyop at this point its insane.
People are being paid to not talk about it in order for everyone to forget
It's just unfortunate timing, and conspiracy theorists are going to latch onto it unfortunately .
The most likely scenario is the man simply felt guilt over betraying his former employer, and over the years the shame ate away at him.
This is a case in point why employees should always remain loyal to our employers.
@lfc Europe
Have you not experienced life on this planet the past four years…. The corruption has reached biblical levels.
Now you know how we conservatives feel.
The mainstream media is the #1 enemy of America.
I’m new here, but I hope you won’t take it easy on the FAA. They’re fully complicit on permitting the 737 Max to fly in the first place, and there’s been zero accountability.
Just like a certain FDA…
I don't work in the aircraft industry but I work on Aero-derivative turbine engines (jet engines that have been adapted from aircraft to use for other applications). Many of my co-workers have come from the aircraft industry. They are all VERY professional, HIGHLY skilled and take EXTREME care with everything they do. It's VERY impressive to watch. They were all pushed out of the industry by poor pay and conditions and insane responsibility placed on their shoulders they didn't feel was reasonable. They were replaced by staff with less experience. (none of them worked directly for Boeing, they worked for various carriers, this is a statement about their thoughts on the air-industry as a whole). They speak fondly of what Boeing used to be. When Airbus was new and their planes were often grounded (not unsafe with passengers on-board just, extra time needed for maintenance and planes not being ready to fly when needed), they used to have a saying that was "if it's boeing it's going"... because the boeing aircraft used to be ready first and be more reliable due to simpler time-proven designs... They all seem to agree it's not like that anymore. They all seem to agree that standards throughout the aircraft industry have dropped and that it's always corporate greed putting safety below profit. This refers to the carriers by the way. -- 2x caveats: 1. These guys all worked on aircraft engines and worked on Boeing and other aircraft but not directly for Boeing, rather for the carriers, and 2. These guys still all fly regularly as part of field service work. I think most of them select flights based on carrier and rewards points over aircraft manufacturer.
thats interesting, thank you for sharing their experiences. im curious how many decades ago was that? the aerospace industry is a total shitshow and I got to witness it because both my parents were in it since the 80s. this news doesn't surprise me because they used to work at Boeing and it was always shitty. rumors of cost cutting has been going on for years. they had these regular lay offs where they got rid of all the older workers who were about to hit retirement age to avoid paying them out and slowly all more experienced workers were being let go to hire fresh graduates who could be paid less. the ageism in that industry was psychotic. I remember my dad having to move to various states as well to find work because he'd regularly be let go in lay off due to pushing 50.
Welcome to DEI America
thats because Boeing was always a dog, it was McDonnell Douglas that actually made things and kept it afloat until the suits finally killed it
There’s no way the whistleblower killed himself.
People die, sometimes at their own hand. Just because he was a whistleblower doesn't mean there is necessarily anything suspicious.
why he would kill himself at such time???
He suicided himself just like Epstein and the guy that was going to expose Bill Clinton who was found dead with a big hole in his chest and the POLICE declared it was a suicide despite, the shotgun was not found! Looks like the guy shot himself with a shotgun, went to hide the shotgun, and went to sit under a tree. Our government is so corrupt!
they called Hillary and had him dealt with
@@TheGodpharmaand the reverse is true also. people get killed for others greed all the time
Oh no! He “shot himself” the DAY before he was going to testify against Boeing? How fucking lucky for THEM 🤦🏻♂
Clinton strategy at its best. It works in USA like a dream.
Could NOT have been more obvious
Or his scheme to enrich himself was going to be exposed under scrutiny the next day and he couldn't go through it. Boeing has hundreds of thousands of current and former employees. If there's an issue, more people would have stepped forward. Hundreds of thousands don't want the airplanes that carry their own families falling out of the sky. It's ridiculous to think none of them besides this guy would say anything. Judging by the comments, almost everybody doesn't have a single bit of common sense
Why was he not in witness protection?
Epstein got "suicided" while in prison and nothing happened. I don't think even the guards, who were conveniently sleeping while on duty, got fired. That is a big green light to the criminals running (ruining) corporations and government. The US is being Putin-ized on the daily
The whistleblower's death the day before he gives his official testimony is some mafia stuff. What the hell?
I was an engineer in operational management and have to say that Boeing's problems is the management one. They only pay attention to the stock price instead of changing the culture! Every shareholder is greedy and that's is the main reason why companies like Boeing, Intel or AT&T did not arrive at the top of the industrial echelon ! Main reason for this that they put the beancounter in the position of CEO! In Boeing case, the engineer Muilenburg was under the pressure of the so called share holder to max the profit on cost of the safety! Intel suffered so much under Beancounter like Otellini and Bob Swan! If you have the gut, you can tell your shareholder that a profit margin of 10 to 15% is very good! But none of the CEO in USA did that! In Switzerland yes, Swatchgroup for example!
When money becomes the primary interest ethics goes out the window.
I believe that some companies shouldn't be on the stock market because the pursuit of profit becomes their priority. Sadly I have no solution to the problem this would create.
Shareholders should also ease up on the demand for yearly growth in profits- it's just too greedy and doesn't make sense.
I hope Boeing's entire board of directors and management staff goes to jail.
Lol no they'd collect tens of millions at the minimal in bonus checks then quickly land a more lucrative job to find the next once great company to destroy and extract wealth.
On what evidence? The whinings of an old man with no power? The powerful care not for the murmerings of the plebs.
@@lerm4676 The "whinings of an old man" - are you saying rhat everyone should stay in their lane and take their payday in silence?
we can hope, but the reality is that they wont face any consequence. At worst they will be forced to leave with a handsome severance package
Or take a flight in one of their planes which has an unscheduled mid air disassembly.
"You got money to hire hitmen but you got no money for proper management and parts? The hell, Boeing!"
Hitmen are cheap compared with proper management and good parts. So, they're just providing shareholder value.
It could have been a big investor that got the job done. Just as much to lose.
And they're a one-time expense 💸
5 million vs 100s of millions
They’re also a defence contractor
Spread this news please. Corporations must be held responsible for this level of evil and apathy.
My dad was an aerospace engineer from 1959 thru 2006. He mentioned several times that how much Boeing changed over the decades. Not for the better.
Say the line guys: 😂
If it’s boeing, we ain’t going
If boeing collapses this could cause Airbus to become a monopoly
@@frommarkham424 great! be funny if trump wins n no boeing n he leaves nato who has airbus lol. Bye then.
Boeing is dead. Long live Airbus.
This is US manufacturing in general. Not surprising.
@@TimLSim Everyone always wants a new king. Once that new king becomes old, they want yet another new one. Humans are such hypocrites...
It should also be noted that John Barnett told a close friend that 'if something happens, it's not suicide'. He knew the extreme risk he was taking in going against Boeing.
Where's the source for that?
Do you know how to use the internet? @@mintymus
@@mintymushis wife
@@mintymus his wife
@@mintymus his wife
I find it interesting to note that, when a fault is easy for members of the public to understand, like the missing bolts, the reputational damage is bigger than when a fault is subtle, as with the two 737 Max crashes, even though no-one died in the former and many people died in the latter.
I’d also hope you’re covering that this is McDonnell Douglas’ doing. Like so many companies that acquire others, Boeing lost itself when it acquired McDonnell Douglas. The present day Boeing reflects McDonnell Douglas culture and leadership
He talked about that in the first video :)
The level of corporate corruption in America is disgusting… I lost count honestly.
And it's going to continue as they only get a small wrist slap.
The boeing CEO ahole who pushed for the MCAS and engine differnceswith all its weakness and cheapenings...to rush orders to compete with boeing?
Even after all the deaths' he indirectly or directly caused.. he got his gold parachute and left.
America is on a downward trend.
I highly doubt we will pass the 23rd century with the United States still being a superpower.
Don't forget the government corruption while you're counting ...
It's not just in America.... this is all over the world....
A bunch of crooks who should be in prison.
The disturbing part was that the Boeing plant workers were saying they would never fly on the planes they were building. This is like GM in the 80's unreal.
GM in the 80s was bad, but not this bad haha!
This is the irony of goverment incentive and duel relationship gets you. Its not because of lack of gov't intervention rather because of it.
Ford in the 1980s may have been worse. Read "The Savage Factory".
@@grambo4436it’s because of greed, lack of regulations, corporations sleeping with the government and you’re here asking for more of it.
It’s scary because a bad weld or unstable frame can be catastrophic for a car, let alone a vehicle that flies at 30,000ft at 900+ km/h
It's not just corporate greed. It's the government intervention that has facilitated it.
Barnett told a family friend that he'd never commit suicide.
"He wasn't concerned about safety because I asked him," Jennifer said. "I said, 'Aren't you scared?' And he said, 'No, I ain't scared, but if anything happens to me, it's not suicide.'"
It's so sad. Anyone with common sense would know that this wasn't a suicide. Unfortunately it will be lost to the corporate greed, in a few months nobody will even remember him. That's just the world we live in.
@@wlockuz4467 I doubt that.
@@jonahfalcon1970 We'll see in a few months if anything comes of it. I really wish something would, but knowing the world it will be just swept away silently.
What's funny is that if they didn't kill John Barnett I would have never known about the ongoing case against Boeing
Watch them get a standard slap on a wrist fine of about 5% of their worth.
Known as "The Streisand Effect".
@@VanillaMacaron551flashback to my social psychology professor who’s thin white beard when down to his chest
Probably what he would have testified would have made bigger headlines or would have convicted executives.
@@Penetrator20001Hopefully other employees start to testify as well
Classic example of 100 engineers screaming that it isnt safe, followed by an exec saying It'll be fine based on nothing but finances.
Then shit hits the fan and those 100 engineers are now the scapegoat.
That's why everything should be documented and every conversation mailed and CCed to a lot of people. In this case you are more likely to be safe
Happens a lot. I've witnessed a few insane industrial accidents that happened because a boss over-rode the opinion of a worker. Fortunately none of them hurt anyone and only cost the company a ton of money. But a 20,000psi steam line bursting definitely could have hurt someone.
The engineers work in an office, they wouldn't be on the production floor unless called for, so yeah.
That's simply typical corporate policy. When a problem happens, the assignment of blame becomes paramount and management bigwigs would NEVER assign it to themselves; sh!t always falls downhill to the people below.. Boeing once made money as a function of quality, then lost its way and started trying to make more money and minimize quality. Typically corporate behavior, witness Chrysler, Ford, and GM.
I've worked in mainstream Medical/Surgical Health for 34 years, and your scenario feels chillingly familiar.
After contracting for 15 years I observed many of these concerns and changes in the conversion from engineering to accounting based manufacturing
Bean counters are literally dangerous for everyone.
RIP courageous whistleblower. I hope there is a hell waiting for those who had anything to do with this man's demise.
Whistleblower got Epsteined.
Where were the Clintons?
EXACTLY!!
Epstein took his own life because he wanted to leave this world with dignity. If he had to spend the rest of his life in prison being known as the biggest ChoMo the world has ever seen, he would have faced hell in prison. A lot of physical and emotional abuse. Plus of course he would likely leave this world in the most humiliating way.
Gary Webb'd!
YEP......................... J E got waked................. but this is even worse............... corporate waking????
As a pilot who fly 737 for a living. Those Boeing executives should be criminally charged for this
@@TydiriumPilotCrazy how a period detracts from what he did from a living. I flew 707's for a living, but if i forget a period does that make it fake?
They will be
@@TydiriumPilot lol just because they don't use proper format means they don't work x profession?
@@TydiriumPilot To pass ICAO level 4 English this stuff isn't required. A lot of pilots that come from Asia-Pacific countries don't need to have perfect English. But rather a good enough grasp they can read back and communicate effectively with air traffic control.(I am currently attending a cadet pilot programme in Southeast Asia) Plenty of my peers are capable of making several grammatical errors. ICAO Rating scales that determine someone's English level are based on several categories such as grammar, comprehension, fluency etc. Someone who would score high on comprehension but lower on Grammar will end up with a rating somewhere either higher or lower depending on how they score in other areas.
Most airlines require an ICAO level 4 rating for commercial pilots, the highest is 6.
Yes you'd have attention to detail as a pilot, but not necessarily with grammar. We are trained to spot for visual details that might be out of the ordinary on planes etc. However, neither of us can make an educated guess and call bullshit on someone's credentials based on their grammar in this case, maybe if what they wrote was entirely incomprehensible maybe then you could question their abilities as an airline pilot. What he wrote outside of being grammatically incorrect, is that it is understandable to read. Which is the most important thing.
‘Flies’ not ‘fly’.
If you’re a pilot, I’m Donald Trump.
I work on the 767 program building wings. The training is shockingly bad. Upper management is well aware of this and they do not care for the most part
Very well done brosef🤙 You're right about the audio its still 80% there though. Sounds fine with the exception of the top end. Sounds a bit like the "air" "feature" found on many Interfaces these days.
Appreciate the heads up in advance though. Again, good video!! Cheers🤙
Imagine what they're trying to hide if they are willing to blatantly kill a whistleblower
D.E.I. 👈
It's been this way with Boeing since before DEI was a thing.
As I grow older I've come to understand why this country's leadership treats the American public like children. Because the American public is like children. Complete with the short attention span. Obsession over the latest thing and the memory of a goldfish.
Only "We'll get ice cream later" is replaced with "We'll get to the bottom of this later".
Let's blame the latest thing for a decades long problem. Great that will really fix things.
@@edwardscott3262hmm, good point
@@carlmorgan8452 yea bro I’m sure the corporate corruption has something to do with black pilots. It’s not like the engineers say they refuse to fly on the planes they designed..
@@L154N4LG4IByou can over-hire MBAs and bloat your corporate structure for short term profits AND implement naive DEI policies that negatively impact the company. Both things can be true, none of this is mutually exclusive. Think deeper, not everything has a single source of origin.
What really bothers me is when you have a whisleblower killed the day before they're to give the testimony that they've been waiting to give, and no one, NOT ONE PERSON in an official capacity is willing to say the timing looks very suspect. It is just swept under the rug right in front of us. They always say the whistleblower was really going thru some hard times leading up to their death. Well yeah, whistleblowers are constantly harrassed and intimated by the people or entities that they're blowing the whistle on without any kind of protection. Legally they're supposed to be protected, but that's about as effective as a restraining order to a stalker that wants to seal the deal.
he got the best award for journalism
Luckily, almost no one on here or twitter actually beleives the coroner and neither does the guy’s attorney. theres gonna be pushback.
The timing was intentional, it's basically saying yes we did it and this is what will happen to you if you dare to cross us.
@@haroldcruz8550
I took it more as, "yes we can make it this obvious and we'll get away with it. Just watch."
But I can see it either way.
Because slips of paper are as good at keeping stalkers away as slips of paper are good for throwing at lowering carbon emissions.
Nonsense really. Human mental gymnastics to make us feel good about something we have no control over.
It’s another level of absurdity that the whistleblower is murdered, and Boeing couldn’t care less to make the murder look less suspicious…
I can’t believe how many people are commenting about the whistleblower being murdered. Like that every comment mentioned it I’m shocked. I thought that that was just understood like of course they did it. I just thought that that was like normal. I can’t believe everybody so surprised I mean you’re dealing with corporate, with money that you couldn’t even imagine and they’re in bed with the government so yeah that’s why I’m not surprised. I would think it would be weird if the guy was still living. And if they could get away with that effortlessly, I don’t think that having a system called MCRASH that is still currently up in hundreds and thousands of planes as we speak is going to be a problem it may well just leave it there as it’s not like anything‘s gonna affect those corporate they’ll never be singled out or have to take accountability for cutting corners. They know people aren’t gonna stop flying whatever they install in their planes, and now that we know how they handle business that just sums it all up if you run your mouth just get shot in the face for it and killed and life goes on and everybody goes to bed and sleeps like a baby
Yeah, so much for all "whistleblower protection" that Obama touted in his day.
Lot of the public is talking about it yet you won't see it on media. Because everyone has eaten a piece of the Boeing pie, so they're just doing their part protecting Boeing.
Thats fucking wild that the engineers were all saying essentially "hell no im not flying on this piece of shit"
Corporations killing citizens is unacceptable.
Who do you think should do it instead?
Is it? Is it unacceptable? Because I’m pretty sure we are all about to be forced to accept it.
@@sheerluckholmes5468 My thoughts exactly. Should it only be allowed by start-up....?
@americandissident9062 the only way we accept it is if people give into cowardice, fear, and cynicism. Which, honestly, yeah, it's pretty likely
It's kinda unacceptable no matter who does it.
Manufacturing engineer here for a German car manufacturer.....Absolutely impossible without malice that the installation process of safety critical bolts is not recorded during installation. Every safety critical bolt used during vehicle assembly has its torque automatically set for the line worker, and that torque and its install angle is logged automatically on a database for years. If the bolt isn't right, the assembly computers will not allow the vehicle to be cleared to leave the manufacturing plant until its fixed..Any rework following final assembly is also recorded digitally for years in case of future issues, and everything must be verified by 2 independent technicians using 2 independently calibrated tools ...There is ZERO chance these logs "go missing" ... it's automated and foolproof so only way it's missing is with malice
Can't compare German manufacturing with American manufacturing, sadly.
Well, that's one way to do it, but if you look at the manufacturing area, it's not an assembly line in the classic car sense. It's a much bigger product, and the way it is built, it may not be possible to follow your framework. But you and are guessing, and I don't think Boeing are going to let anyone outside the company see how exactly they do things. What is true is that financialisation and shareholder primacy can tend to create perverse incentives in corporations. Priorities create problems, and if you are unwilling to tackle them, you had better take a long hard look at the priorities that put them there.
Impressive
You haven't read the report. This is lazy, I'm sorry.
The fuselage arrived from Spirit with the door correctly installed. It was at Boeing Seattle that damaged rivets were discovered. A Spirit Crew repaired the rivets, and removed the plug door.
It was their failure to reinstall the door correctly that caused this incident.
This did not happen on the production line.
@@yuglesstube Even worse if you only care about the production line
Excellent documentation and journalism. Thanks Cold Fusion.
Interesting how at the same time we started hiring people without proper qualifications for said job. Malfunctions start happening. Its almost like those qualifications exist for a reason.
the video mentions this shit from 2014, so long before DEI was the buzzword
The corruption in our country is sickening
It isn’t your country and it never was. It’s their country. Ifykyk
You should travel to third-world countries
All for the mighty $ ! Get cA$$ out of politics. We need a media revolution as well, bring back the focus of character and values.
@@dmhendricksthe ones destabilized by the u.s. government, dictator puppets installed and all? 😂 or the ones sanctioned into eternity like Cuba?
as long as mass protests in US happen for a pollical reform & democracy as well, no hope for USA to Improve significantly
Ex boeing mechanical engineer here. Worked at the space center in Kent for longer than I would care to admit. Although I can't corroborate the quality issues detailed in this video, I continually saw quality sacrificed for the almighty schedule. This was a corporate illness and I can remember promising to to myself any number of times during my employ, "if it's boeing, I'm not going".
Boeing was never the same after the merger with McDonell Douglas. The original company culture disappeared and got merged with that California McDonell Douglas culture. After then, after the merger, you had all those legal problems and lawsuits.
Thanks for being honest.
You should just state for the record that you're not suicidal whenever you reveal something about Boeing :P
Stay safe
I hope you continue to be safe.
Strong work, sir!
By the way, what is the song you used at the conclusion of the video?
2:30 I’m glad you put them in to perspective!
The only things keeping Boeing afloat are 1) sweetheart military contracts from Uncle Sugar, and 2) Airbus can't scale up fast enough to meet all the demand.
Uh, Airbus is kept afloat by EU government subsidies. It isn't profitable on it's own. The A380 lost them billions of Euros. It isn't just Boeing that gets government money.
In 2023, the 737 program made up around 65% of their profits.
@@davemiller6055 In the comment that you replied, it is not stated that Airbus doesn’t get a financial support from the European governments. But I believe that Airbus can handle without that support when we consider Boeing’s low performance in the field of commercial aviation. Many airliners have been prioritizing Airbus’ planes over Boeing’s planes. It is clear in the number of orders that Airbus and Boeing got in the last 5 years. In addition, at least Airbus uses the money from the governments to build safe aircrafts instead of satisfying the demands of the shareholders.
With how much raw materials is mostly import from other countries. Those import materials are bought with inflated currency. All I see is a failing infrastructure on production of essential components. Losing public trust, post-covid, does not increase productivity for the deep-state.
Airbus is kicking their ass.. twice as many aircraft per month delivered, no production delays or limits because of their quality.
Another quick update, John Barnett's family and friends just made a statement relating that he told them 'if anything happened to him, he would never commit suicide'. In other words, he knew he was in danger coming out with this information about Boeings bad, dangerous behavior.
Boing killed him
@@killbill95100 who's Boing?
Doesn't mean anything - Barnett was clinically depressed and these patients always make a last moment decisions. Courts and testimony could be extremely stressful to young people let alone a depressed 62 year old industry reject
@@borghorsa1902Boing shill?
@@borghorsa1902 He's only an "industry reject" because he decided to voice his concerns about the safety of their aircraft. He had been in a legal battle with Boeing for 4 years already why would he quit now?? Your argument is not only terrible but also baseless. This type of thing has happened countless times in the past and will continue to happen. I hope you learn to think as an individual sometime soon.
Our HS has a senior trip every year that involved a flight from Philadelphia to Orlando (in order to see a particular greedy mouse), usually with American Airlines. This year was my class's turn. I fly a lot as my family likes to travel, but we prefer Airbus, and now I understand why. The way there was completely okay... besides them overbooking the flight and us having to put our carry-on into the storage, it was pretty smooth. The way back. It was bad. The flight got delayed 6 hours, and that's a regular enough occurrence, but the actual travel was horrid. We went through turbulence (with light shut off for a few moments) on a low-wind-sparsely-cloudy day, and during the landing they locked the rear right wheels (or I assume so with the plane's trajectory), leading to the plane drifting. We had the same exact model plane and same seating chart on the way there & back, and the 2nd flight felt significantly more sketch. My props to the pilot for managing this mess of a plane, but with a 12 hr flight approaching in less than a day for me and my mother, I hope we're flying Airbus lol.
As a Airbus engineer: I don’t know one colleague who would not fly with a plane he/ she is building.
an Airbus engineer
Would you fly on a Boeing?
Diversity destroys companies...
You have my business
@@orionxtc1119 More like the finance bros came in and destroyed whatever structure the actual experts. It's easy to go "hurr durr DEI again" when the root of the problem is a bunch of idiots who only cared about maximizing shareholder value
It is Boeing issue. My husband was an A&P mechanic for a Boeing subcontractor. There were enough issues that my husband took a job for less pay rather than let the sub use his FAA license number to approve unsafe parts. His employer routinely tried to steal his tags to approve unsafe work. He used to swear they were going to kill a bunch of people. The DOJ should look into their use of "refurbished" parts to fulfill their contracts to other countries. All of those military industries will go after whistleblowers. Remember Karen Silkwood.
Why do you suggest military industries assassinated this whistleblower?
Is the sky blue ? @@dParakeet
The DOJ???😂😂😂😂
@@dParakeet Why wouldn't you?
I believe this is part of a plan to depopulate the planet or scare people away from flying in general. Climate change is causing some pretty evil and erratic behaviour.
Good video. Informative.
I remember watching a documentary a couple of years ago which already claimed a sloppy building process.
Back then i wondered if it was really that bad or if they exaggerated for the sake of the story. I thought to myself »time will tell« and now i guess time told.
They called it the Dreamliner because if you get on it you goin' to sleep forever
For real any one who flies when they have literally *any* other options is a g-d fool.
HAHAHAHA LOL 😂😂😂👍👍👍-sleep forever
Yup, purchase a ticket to the long dark dirt nap...😂
Fully equipped with MCRASH and the door plugs were replaced with butt plugs. That was exactly why they called it the Dreamliner. You must be dreaming if you think you’re getting off this liner alive. Last flight I was on a passenger next to me was eating a sandwich that was served and half way through eating it she freaked out because she found a used condom in her sandwich. So it’s not just the actual planes and the mechanics of it. It’s right on down to the staff and the pilots and everything in between I mean this point they may as well call them crash on takeoff.
It's funny how they expect people to buy the death of a whistle blower on the day he's supposed to testify from a "self inflicted gunshot wound". Rip his soul.
They don't expect you to believe it, they just have the money to make you accept it.
@@Slinky_Takinyeah... nobody accepts that. Dave Calhoun had him killed.
Boeing Chief Executive Boardroom "He made it through all those interviews and almost a decade of sounding the alarm... he just couldn't take it anymore. The day before his day in court. Sounds good? Alright let's go with that."
Considering the rest of the decisions they've made this is one of their better ones. Given their track record, they would have had him snuffed out the day after his day in court. Maybe things are really changing around their corporation. /s
@@Slinky_Takin
@Slinky_Takin
Very well put. I need to remember that statement. It fits California government to a T.
I wonder if Hillary has stock in Boeing.
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Greed greed greed. Humans just aren’t satisfied.
How disgusting. Whistleblowers must be protected against these psychopathic corporations.
it's a double edged sword. if they don't come out publicly, the system is prone to everyone crying wolf while reaping any protection privileges
So you stepped up for Edward Snowden?
Nah. The ball game was on that day.
FIFY:
"How disgusting. ALL AMERICANS must be protected against these psychopathic corporations."
Corporate America, greed and the wealthy are killing the USA. Time to reel them in, hold them accountable, send execs to PRISON for malfeasance, and restore New Deal economics. Progressive taxation will restore American prosperity. Reagan was a liar, cheat and thief!
I watched someone decide to blow the whistle on his employer.
The company noticed when he contacted news media. Almost nobody called him back. When a reporter finally did write the story, company contacted the newspaper and told them he had been fired for misconduct and was the subject of a lawsuit, so his "story" was just more of his BS. (This wasn't true.) News editor didn't want to get in the middle, and blocked the story.
The story eventually ran and was a scandal for the company.
My guy was out of work for years. Nobody wanted to hire someone with his past.
This is how it goes.
At this point, it is a corporatocracy, and even worse, the companies have been given national security powers and every horrible weapon you could imagine.
"We can't find any documentation for work done on the door panel"
*shredder in background go brrrrrrrr*
How is this even an acceptable legal response? All of this is nonsense from the government
"We can't find any documentation for work done on the door panel"
shredder in background go brrrrrrrr
now, now.
without bringing into the discussion a certain group of mutant turtles,
imagine this situation: the reason there is no documentation is because nobody EVER did work on that door panel.
now ask yourself: is this better or WORSE than the shredder in the background?
@@bluefmi or 3rd option: (shoddy?) work was done, but never documented. There's no documentation, so no one knows what's done/not done.
DEI..at work.
First time I land on this channel, outstanding video quality!
"They said: 'We build bombs and missiles, and many other advanced mass killing devices, how do you expect us to make things that SAFELY fly multiple flights WITHOUT an explosion!?'"
Death culture is killing itself.
It's all they can do.
John Barnett didn't off himself.
Ridiculous they expect the public to buy this.
They don't need them to! That's the scariest part
@@gangstaberry2496 exactly.
The public buys it all. None of this will change the world. Evil wins every day, this isn't the movies.
there is an individual currently working within president bidens administration with direct connections to boeing, to the point boeings money funded their campaign...but they expect you not to know that...
Sure, there totally no way a clinically depressed guy would kill himself... derp
Why on earth would the whistleblower commit suic*de the day before he gets to testify about the very thing he has been trying to warn people about for years? That sounds incredibly suspicious. Not just that he would have done it, but even that he didn't want to wait until the day after his testimony
Remember Enron? Kenneth Lay was about to testify then suddenly had a massive heart attack? That event opened my eyes to how corrupt our govt and corporations are.
That's why it's so shocking. They'd rather kill him in incredibly obvious fashion than have his testimony get out
He told his mother that if they found him dead, it would n’t be a suicide
Worse than that…. He already was giving testimony. This was the FINAL day. I could MAYBE see if it was the day before but it wasn’t. He already decided to go through with it and had given some testimony in some capacity. This was going to be the last day. That’s so much worse for me.
Calling it now: the "self inflicted" shot was 10 bullets to the back of the head
What different Microphone are you using? I like the quality.
Thank you for making this video! Boeing needs to be held accountable!
Holy shit…. They didn't even try to make it look like an accident
Yep.. they want us to know thats what happens to those who dont stay quiet..
Who'd they hire? John Wick? Any idea who the identity of the murder is?
@@skinnybricks Ha! Nice try, /OFFICER/. :(
Or like a heart attack.
@@skinnybricks Maybe the same team that did Epstein.
I'm an A&P technician with about twenty years experience working on Lockheed, Bell, Boeing, and Sikorsky aircraft. In Dec 2021, I applied at Boeing at Renton and was interviewed not by a team of technicians or engineers, but rather some young HR personnel. They asked such hard hitting questions as, "do you know how to use a hammer", and "can you drill a hole". They clearly had no idea the technical challenges they were hiring for, and made an offer commensurate with what local fast food chains were paying. If that's what they're offering to live in a very HCOL area, I can't imagine who's actually taking the jobs.
I've worked at 3 companies in a row where I was interviewed by my supervisors who had all done the job themselves. That's no accident.
I cannot imagine they would pay big dollars for skills like using a hammer.
@@ericshang7744 Right, but the point is that the job is significantly more complex than using a hammer and OC believes HR might be hiring people with low skill level for something they're not qualified to do.
I'll bet all MacDonald's workers can use a hammer and drill a hole , an unlimited source of workers for Boeing 😂😂
WELL COME DOWN TO MESA ARIZONA. MCDOWELL AND HIGLEY. THEY HIRE TEMP. AND PICK UP THE DUDES THAT CAN DO THE JOB. THE REST IS GOVERMENT CALADERAL. ABCDEFG
That’s what insatiable greed does to the meticulously crafted reputation of a used to be highly trustworthy company. Incredibly sad and seriously worrisome.
This is the consequence of nonsense deregulations, extreme corporate greed and corrupt politicians.
I was a quality manager in a aircraft company for 16 years at the same company. I was told to allow operators to approve their own work. When I refused I was immediately fired.
Then you are an honorable man.
As a working designer I’ve been told more than once to, “…check my own drawing.”
As an unemployed designer I am constantly urged and reminder to get pay/someone else to proofread my resume.
If fast and cheap production trumps quality and safety, how the hell is this country supposed to return to manufacturing and compete on the world stage with that attitude?
@dearyvettetn4489 We aren't. This is why America is on a collision course to crash and burn. We're approaching this point at a rapid pace. Things like AI is only gonna help accelerate the societal collapse.
Corporate greed is a core root of many of the countries problems. Not the technology, the technicians, engineers.
@@14supersonic😂😂😂 how is any of that going to happen when the usa leads the world in ai doomer? Wealth inequality will increase but that hasn’t bothered Americans for 200+ yrs 😂
@@hoppingrabbit9849 People willfully want to be enslaved when freedom becomes too much. They'll want to give their rights up in the name of "something better" when the moment presents itself. These corporates and companies take advantage of these human behaviors to steadily degrade the standards of living for everyone else, while they can continue to live their lavish life styles.
Remember: silencing every single whistleblower will likely be _far_ cheaper than taking responsibility for their failures. To psychopaths that are strictly about money that would just be the cost of doing business.
Unless people start demanding more and more information from the company... And it looks like more and more people are starting to question them 😬
I'm reminded of the car manufacturers who felt that a number of dead from car crashes was cheaper than actually making safe cars.
@@mirkorenerLTdon't worry, they'll just declare bankruptcy, and then open a new company.
It reminds me of The Godfather Trilogy. Good movies. :)
Yes, I would agree with your analysis and comments on the issues. All the malfunctions shown are common aircraft malfunctions on many aircraft including Boeing, Airbus, and Military aircraft. There is always an announcement to keep your seatbelt fastened while seated, just in case of turbulence. For the wheel failing while the aircraft was ascending, someone did not follow instructions, nor did a second party or additional eye (maintenance supervisor/ senior mechanic QA the maintenance actions, to make sure the tire was torqued, transducer bolt and nut were properly tightened and secured along with the hub and V-band clamp, which requires safety wire. These are maintenance issues, not The manufacturer. Let us put the blame where it belongs. The Airline or carrier pushes maintenance personnel to get the job done as quickly and fast as possible because of the schedules, rotations, etc... of course, the other side of the push is when you value your skills, the threat of being fired or moved to an unsatisfying dead-end position or task. So, unfortunately, John Barnett paid the ultimate. 30 years as a Quality Manager, but did not say anything till after retirement, speaks volumes to me. So the real problems were the manufacturer, management, policies and practices, employees, and mechanics. RESEARCH THE BOEING PLANT IN CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA AND Philadelphia
On March 7th in the basement of a restaurant called Kitty Fishers. Some people from Boeing and Rolls Royce had a clandestine meeting to discuss the relaxing of certain rules by the FAA. All seemed quite pleased with themselves.
*puts on full body armor and runs away.
I worked for Boeing for 32 years. When I started it was all about making a great product, and the money would follow. That all changed with McDonnel Douglas taking over. We changed from being "the Boeing Family" to being a team. The focus changed from great engineering to how can we save money to make the next quarter look better.
Any company that calls themselves a family, is anything but.
@@davecrupel2817I think you misinterpret his point.
To you, family has crime boss connotations.
To him, and Boeing at the time, it had wholesome, normal family connotations.
But they tossed that wholesomeness, and started calling it a team. Like a sporting team. A win at all costs sporting team.
"The focus changed from great engineering to how can we save money to make the next quarter look better."
Spot on.
Fantastic line.
Agreed
Protect this man/woman!
“Self inflicted gun shot wound” sureeee the day before the court case.
It was 3 days of deposition testimony to attorneys for a court case. He already gave 2 days worth to testimony. On the 3rd day he was a “no show” at the location where the deposition was taking place. That’s when attorneys alerted police and they did a wellness check and found him dead in his truck in a hotel parking lot.
@@mclaine33
Irrelevant. Nice try. They probably didn't want him to talk more than he already did.
Why not? Vince Foster did it.... shot himself in the back of the head he did. Right?
So what? What are you going to do about it? Gonna vote a bit harder next time?
They did it because they know for an absolute fact that they can and will get away with it.
Has anyone checked to see if - _Bill & Hillary Clinton_ - are big shareholders in Boeing ?
They definitely murdered that whistle blower.
Corruption is killing corporate America
Good friend who worked for Boeing for 38 yrs, retired 15 yrs ago. He told me that Boeing brought in the ‘bean counters’ to increase profits. My friend was an engineer and saw the writing on the wall 15 yrs ago. He told me this would happen when Boeing started outsourcing parts manufacturing.
Yeah, but LOTS of companies do this. Have for many, many years.
They're not MAKING solid enough parts to START with. Imo.
I don't know what a " bean counter" is but it sounds really racist!
@@Bigboodeeluvva HAHAHAHA
Outsourcing always hurts the credibility of a company.
@@Bigboodeeluvva your kidding right? There’s nothing at all racist about bean counter 😂
I work in the medical device industry. We have traceability requirements even more strict than the airline industry. If one of our products caused harm or a death (never mind several hundred) and we said we couldn't find a critical document, the FDA is empowered to shut the company down that day (and has in the past). Why doesn't the FAA have this authority with the aircraft manufacturers? There is absolutely no "collaboration" allowed between the FDA and the med-dev companies. In fact, most of the periodic audits are done by a "competent authority," a company that is directly empowered to conduct impartial investigations and has no stake in either the FDA or the manufacturers. The "self-certification" that Boeing did, with the blessings of the FAA, shows that this criminal investigation by congress should include that agency.
Yes exactly! All too often $ makes the world go round in all the wrong ways...
Because lobbying, Boeings been paying alota Money to politicians
Your medical device company probably doesn’t have deep ties with the US military working on stuff related to national security. It also probably doesn’t have equally deep ties with the US government either.
As stated in the video Boeing might as well change their name to the US Military. That why they do as they please. They trot out some falls guys who are high up enough to appease the public then the rest will be swept under the rug. Five years from now this will not be forgotten but people won’t care. The man they assassinated will become a footnote. A name uttered in bars when people say “man remember that guy they killed”
Well, we can't expect politicians under the influence of Boeing's money to do anything substantial. If anything it will be smokescreen.
Thank you for the information .
I know somebody I used to work with who is now an airplane technician at a major international airport. If his work ethic is the same work ethic I witnessed at our old jobs, I’m not surprised planes are having issues. That being said. John didn’t kill himself.
The old saying "if its not Boeing, I ain't going" has now turned into, "if its Boeing, I ain't Going!" 😂😂
I'm grounding myself until Airbus replaces all the Boeing paper airplanes.
I don't need a whistleblower to tell me not to fly Boeing. I can work that out just by looking at how MCAS was implemented.
I'm a software engineer. I work on systems specified at five nines availability (99.999% uptime). We don't hit that by writing software that never goes wrong, because that's virtually impossible. We hit that through multiple layers of fault monitoring and redundancy. You ask "what can go wrong here" and design the system so that it remains available even if part of it fails.
Then I look at MCAS. Software with the control authority to put a plane in an unrecoverable nosedive, fed AoA data by a *single sensor.* No checking that the second AoA sensor agrees. No checking against current attitude that MCAS activation is appropriate. No safeguards limiting how far MCAS can move the vertical stabiliser. No warning to the pilot that MCAS is activating. It was a ticking bomb from day one.
This isn't a single fuck-up. The design and implementation of MCAS screams of *catastrophic incompetence.* I spend 10 seconds thinking about it and come up with fundamental safeguards that Boeing's management didn't sign off on, or Boeing's engineering never thought of. Why would I trust that MCAS is an isolated incident, when it demonstrates fundamental engineering flaws?
Quoting statistics on flight safety is all well and good, but thankfully there's competition in aviation. Why would I step onto an aircraft if I don't trust the engineering that went into it? If it's Boeing, I'm not going.
Same with me. If it is Boeing I am not buying the ticket. Greed and toxic corporate culture will be Boeing's undoing. But the US governement will bail them out and not a single executive at Boeing will be punished, lose their job, lose their retirement benefits, lose their stock options etc. This is an abolute certainty.
If I said to you "DFMEA", it puts your comment into a nutshell. Your second and third paragraphs effectively describe exactly what a DFMEA is supposed do. My guess is they weren't doing their DFMEAs or PFMEAs properly (if at all). I've just retired from being a Professional Automotive Engineer - I could never have got away without having my DFMEAs in place and kept up to date.
The company I worked for (JLR) was absolutely shit-scared of US Product Safety legislation. Why isn't Boeing?
Oh, did you say something about Boeings government lobbying?
i learned quite a bit from your articulate comment; thank you
I saw Mentaur pilot on this and an interview w the engineer/pilot hired to investigate on simulator.
He cried explaining that the pilot on Lion air and the other one, dud the RIGHT THING for stabilizer failure (what Boeing said to do).
Problem, is that it really fights you VERY close to the ground. It said cut power to stabilizers and use a hard-to-use wheel. But, you have to use them to land, I think...
@@asdf242thank you. FMEA = Failure Mode and Effects Analysis. D = design (and engineering) and p = process (manufacture).
FMEAs had the search light shone on them after the Challenger disaster. The DFMEA for the shuttle rated the o-ring failure as a 1 in 1 million event (or less). Although the severity was rated 10 (death/serious injury, highest rating) they did nothing about it because the overall score was low. This changed the perspective on DFMEAs, so that as well as attending to high overall scores, engineers would investigate and design out failures with a severity of 8, 9 or 10 no matter the overall score.
At least, that's how it happened in the automotive industry in the very early 90s when I was but a young Engineer and had to do no end of DFMEA training courses.
It is obvious to me as a Professional Engineer, that the 737 Max sensor issue that caused the two crashes should have been designed (engineered) out because the DFMEA would rate the severity of sensor failure as a 10. Simple as!! Someone didn't do their job(s) properly and weren't being supervised properly on that.
BTW, have a look at my channel if you do any of your own car maintenance.
I bet none of the people who ordered the hit on that poor man didn't even see the interview where he said he is not suicidal so if anything pops up about him being dead via suicide don't believe that
Always well done sir. Thank you.
"Can't find the paperwork on the work done on the door plugs".. because the job was never done and the papers never existed.
Bullshit John.
The reports are inside Nate Wade's head.
I thought the same thing. You can't find something that doesn't exist.
But why can't Boeing give the documents to the investigators?
/s
1, isn't the door LARGER than the opening?
I don’t work for Boeing but I do work for RTX corporation in the finance department. Last year the company found that the density of the walls inside some engines where below standards (or something like that, sorry I’m no engineer)of the Prat and Whitney business division. So the company made an international recall and ask for all airbus planes with that specific engine to be grounded until they could be check and change if needed. High level executives were fired and drastic changes were done in a couple of weeks. I think this recall cost the company something like 20 billion dollars. 80% of that amount is just the reimbursement for airlines for the loss of revenues caused because the planes had to be grounded. But the point is that at least RTX took accountability and they took preventive measures to ground the planes as soon as posible, and not wait until planes start falling from the sky like Boeing did in 2018-2019. Like Bennett said, this not a 787 problem this is a BOEING problem.
Did Airbus need to pay anything for that recall?
And is RTX the manufacturer of the engine (engine parts)?
Just to be clear you have no intention of suicide right?
Fines need to be orders of magnitude larger than the cost of taking accountability. And the CEOs and all the higher ups need to be personally made responsible for such incidents (the Boeing ones I mean), and prosecuted to the fullest. Else they have no incentive to take their job seriously.
YEAH, FINANCE DEPT. ...........SO FAR AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT. GO WATCH THE TV
@@oldrageface8706nothing will be done to them until people really get fed up and start taking action
It just gets wilder and wilder
All these things will simply get worse across regulated industries. That part where the video mentions they did away with inspectors and told the mechanics to inspect their own work..... That has been going on across regulated industries for years. "They are adults, they should be able to be certified to inspect their own work, no need for a second person to get involved." #1- Goes against human nature. #2- Mind you, you are asking the same operators you are pushing for numbers to lower their outputs, it is an emotional contradiction. Has anybody seen anyone make overtime by finding his own mistakes or by being more "productive"?
I have not worked in aerospace. However I have worked in regulated industries for 30 years. Starting this 21st century, there has been a greater and greater perception that documentation is just "paperwork", a bunch of bs that only wastes people's time. Specially, with the abundance of managers that either are not engineers or are engineers that have dedicated themselves to management and see their kind as people that only like to waste time. When a person that has never had anything to do with mechanical or electrical parts, with coding, with prints, with manuals, that does not understand anything about alloys, hydraulics, assemblies, uses the oh so managerial phrases like "I am going to challenge those datelines" when he has never done any such work in his life neither cares to understand or learn what it entails, what he is telling the younger generations is that he does not care for it. At the end, he wants to see a machine and how that is achieved, by what level of appropriateness is optional. A fellow that retired told me that every time he was told to review a 100 page document over the weekend he was basically being told to, simply, not review it, just sign it.
Mind you, the same companies that cry to the news media that there is too much regulation, are the same that also want to limit the right of victims to seek compensation, the same that only care about the current quarter report.
I do not know many new engineers whose goal is not being a manager in 2 years, or a manager whose goes is not to be a director. The work in front of their eyes is pretty much "optional" and a drag on their careers.
Add to that the reliance on "contractors" that simply want to complete the tasks they were hired for in the shortest amount of time and get the hell out. They have no vested interest in the final result, much less in the long term effect of their work. Still, management loves the concept. Of course there is a legitimate use for contractors as some skills are to specialized to keep around underutilized. Notwithstanding, I read a report that found there is a correlation between the use of contractor for critical work and industrial accidents.
If anything, I am amazed we do not yet have more bridges and dams collapse and more refineries and chemical plants blow up. But I do believe is coming as, for example, where I work 66% of the personnel has been around for less than three years, while it used to be the majority had been around for over 20 years. Add to that you would have to surgical remove the phones from people's hands as they work while watching the basketball game, add to that when you report these things to the 30 year old 'cool' manager he explains that the new people get bored easily. I do not see how we will not have more of this stuff across different industries.
It's not just Boeing with problems. When I began my Engineering career decades ago, my organization was filled with Engineers from the front office on down. When I retired, that front office was filled with CPAs, PMPs, CFOs, and contract managers. Tthe last meeting I had with the Office Director included a hate filled rant about how much she hated us engineers! One manager took pride in throwing out risk lists that the engineers submitted.
Reminds me of David Graeber's bullshit jobs. So much of our economy runs on inflated salaries for pointless jobs.
PMPs of all people are expected to be happy seeing risk docs
Unless they get too many. Then, the budgets start to take a hit to mitigate.@@emperortheconqueror4161
The moderm management style of "move fast and break stuff" is incompatible with the transport industry. I have no idea how Tesla have been getting away with the self drive BS, and watching space X willingly launch rockets with the takeaway that "if it clears the launchpad its a success" is a mindset that engineers of a couple of generations back would not have accepted. Blowing things up till you find the problem is how the soviets ran their space programme. It can be speedy but tends to put people into coffins.
In the months before I lost my job my employer went on a mission to eliminate all QA positions. On any project there were more managers and bean counters than engineers. Being so close to retirement I'm not sure I have the stomach for this anymore.
I work at airbus, we focus more on perfect quality and employees safety than profit or schedule, we are often off schedule, no accidents, no quick fixes.
Airbus will be reaping all the benefits quite soon!!
Evidently, Boeing is not adhering to its Just Culture commitments. Does Airbus ever liquidate any of its employees?
I’m starting to be relieved when I see I’m getting on an Airbus flight.
I have fear of flight, but i have been on finnair airbus a320 for two trips. It felt safe to be on board tho.
When I found a fault with an Airbus product, they defended their position but I stood my ground. Investigation revealed a serious issue. They apologised, fixed it and offered me a job. 😜
I worked in the Aerospace Industry for over 13 years we did parts for Sikorsky, Northop Grumman, Lockeed Martin, Space X just to name a few big names and sometimes employees would messup a part that they were working on and they would reapair it themselves so they wouldn't get in trouble or sometimes the Inspector wasn't happy with the dimensions of the parts and would rejectect them byt the company would tell him to just send them so the company wouldn't lose money and i admitted myself that i a Supervisor that worked on the Assembly line also fixed some parts that were broken cause them big companies want their parts asap cause of some part that it's needed chopper or F-15 F-16 F-22
I worked at Boeing and got fucked over by them. As I was going through the training to be a 787 assembler, one of the chemicals used at the factory had an extreme reaction to my body and I ended up going to the hospital twice because of it. Boeing fucked me all the way down and Sedgwick, their insurance claim company, fucked me down completely.
CEOs actively destroying the companies they are responsible for should be illegal. There are countless lives involved in this. It includes the clients, the workers, the victims of accidents... Not a good trend.
I believe in as little oversight as possible, but corporations need to be held in check, they do not care about anything but profit.
They can easiley offload responsibility. As long as what they did was result of someones (ideally expert) advice, that guy will be responsible for what CEO did.
Same goes for President.
Corporations are just schemes on how to funnel money from the bottom to the top. They don't even bother to mask it properly with the business part.
There kind of is - Duty of Care. It's just either vague or not enforced in most regions.
"We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"
God we have allowed this world to become rotten to the core.
What do these people who skirt safety regulations to save money think OTHER companies are doing to save money… Ya you guessed it , the SAME thing you did… Now go buy goods and services with your money you saved😳
He didn't risk saying it, but the US Gov is protecting Boeing because it also impacts the country in itself
i read this out loud and from the kitchen my mom side eyed me with a… « who’s the criminal you talking with ?…
@@hajeraa it's ME! haha
@@robinkuruda5249yea lately ive been buying food from farmers markets and goods from smaller companies. Cant stand big corporations. This is all i can do to give a big 🖕 to mega corporations
Used to work for spirit, most old timers got cancer and there not much concern for safty. This really doesnt surprise me.
I worked for united, it was a boeing issue. We regularly had boeing flights held over for maintenence on any aircraft made after 2000. Didn't have this problem with any older models, or airbus flights.
Wait you mean 2 decades old airplanes are in better conditions than newer models?
Sometimes it makes me question if capitalism is worth it
@@ultraranger1286US capitalism, what do you expect? Same with US military hardware, complete junk.
airbus is also capitalist company and no issues there...
@@internet_userryou’re confusing capitalism with criminality. The two aren’t the same.