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    Elizabeth Bennet. Emma Woodhouse. Marianne Dashwood. Jane Austen has been responsible for creating some of the most frequently adapted and analyzed women in the English literary language. Along with Buzzfeed quizzes asking “which SATC or Little Women” character you are, there is always a lot of fanfare about which Jane Austen heroine you are.
    But beyond the big three. Well mostly … big two. Who are the women of Jane Austen’s completed novels? How do they reveal to us, her modern audience, any insight into her growth as an author, her politics, and just how she feels about what makes a girlboss and #girlboss.
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Komentáře • 242

  • @Pattygblanco
    @Pattygblanco Před 2 lety +238

    We DEFINITELY need to set time apart for discussing Mrs. Bennet. It is a fascinating character 😁

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +32

      One thing I really appreciate in the book, is that close reading shows that Mr Bennet is just as flawed as his wife. She may be over the top and obnoxious sometimes, but she clearly understands the stakes and it is no wonder she is desperate to marry off her daughters both for their sake and hers. Her husband could have done a lot just by acting as a partner instead of making her feel very alone in the endeavour. She may be a bit of a fool - but so is he!

    • @CatHasOpinions734
      @CatHasOpinions734 Před 2 lety +18

      @@MariaVosa True. I think the main reason so many people sour on Mrs. Bennet in a way they don't for Mr. Bennet is that he's honest enough to acknowledge and apologize for his mistakes, and she consistently fails to. What happened to Lydia was a result of both of their failings, but she spends the entire time blaming anyone else she possibly can and pretending that she had tried to warn people about Wickham, until she switched on a dime to celebrating that Lydia's married. There's not a single moment of honesty or self-reflection, and that was the point of no return for me. Mr. Bennet fails his wife and daughters in several ways, but he does and least sincerely apologize and try to fix some of the harm he's caused.

    • @ellenh5468
      @ellenh5468 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MariaVosa I think the passage of time also more severely affects Mrs Bennet's flaws and benefits Mr Bennet's so she seems worse without paying attention to context and he seems better

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +10

      @@ellenh5468 Being overly absent rather than overly present is also something that benefits him in the eyes of beholders. It's telling that in the book Darcy criticizes Mr Bennet as well as the others, it forces Lizzie to admit to herself later that her father carries some blame too for the situation. Austen was really insightful.

    • @zjpdarkblaze
      @zjpdarkblaze Před 7 měsíci

      the video doesnt want to talk about her because mrs bennet is misogynistic.

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo Před 2 lety +181

    Fanny Price is the most misunderstood and underappreciated heroine. She's not my favorite but she has a special place in my heart because of her introverted, contemplative nature.

    • @choedzin
      @choedzin Před 2 lety +5

      She was Austen's favorite, though.

    • @choedzin
      @choedzin Před 2 lety +3

      @hasslfoot True, my bad - what I should have said was that Fanny was Austen's ideal of womanhood. Before publication of Emma she said (if I remember correctly) that she'd created a character people would love to hate, or something to that effect.

    • @NouriaDiallo
      @NouriaDiallo Před 2 lety +13

      I feel like Fanny Price is the anti-Pamela. She refuses to marry a man who doesn't share her principles, refuses to be flattered that she changes his opinion on women. I was so scared while reading that it would be a "good woman reforms bad guy" story...

    • @sarahwatts7152
      @sarahwatts7152 Před 2 lety +5

      Jane Austen Book Club (specifically, the movie): "She sits on her nest and she never, ever wavers." Also not my favorite (has to be Anne), but I have never forgotten that line. What merit there is in steadfastness - at least, to the right cause.

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 Před 2 lety +3

      This is probably the first time I have heard that Fanny is a somewhat realistic portrayal of poverty and that repelled quite a few readers.

  • @ruthweal3404
    @ruthweal3404 Před 2 lety +115

    As a young girl I loved Emma and Lizzie, but as I grew older I grew to love and appreciate best the nuances of Anne’s character and Persuasion has remained my favourite novel I’ve ever read.

  • @ereagan4
    @ereagan4 Před 2 lety +20

    Persuasion is my favorite. Anne Elliot may not be as plucky as Elizabeth Bennet, but she remains so loving and kind despite how awful her family is to her. When she reunites with Wentworth, I cry so many happy tears because Anne suffered for so long 😭

  • @jso6790
    @jso6790 Před 2 lety +22

    I remember being in the grips of bratty, teenage male defiance when I was assigned Pride and Prejudice in high school. I was 14 and I joked with my teacher that I was not interested in reading books about "hot tears" and "heaving bosoms". (I was always a nerd, even if a misogynist one). Then... I read Pride and Prejudice and read this remarkable novel of subtlety and subtext. To this day, I remember vividly the day I "ate crow" in class, explaining to all, especially Mrs. Morahan, that I was totally wrong and that this book was so amazing and the Parlor dialogue was so weighted with meaning and subtext and I was a fan. I have not read her other works (or enough since Grad School because of.. life... and teaching), but I do possess her collected works and hope to do so one day.. maybe if I ever get to retire.
    Thanks for a wonderful video. You distilled so much of what I remember feeling as a kid (my "misogyny" was an attempt to deal with bullies who called me "femme" all the time, and so was performative), but with so much more detail and nuance.
    You have me in the mood to pull out those collected works.. but alas the semester is beginning again so my reading will be other people's essays and "Discussion Boards" for the next 4 months.

  • @ljcarey011
    @ljcarey011 Před 2 lety +10

    "Low key Byronic" is the best description ever! I literally LOLed and scared my dog. 100% accurate!

  • @heleneverbach
    @heleneverbach Před 2 lety +154

    Okay, northanger abbey isn't just fun to read because of the critique or literature, I do find it fun as a story. And I would describe Henry Tinley not just as a soft boy but as a funny sweet man! He's the best of the jane austen love interests, in my opinion. He's funny, sweet, he likes fashion. He's kind of iconic

    • @CanelaAguila
      @CanelaAguila Před 2 lety +5

      I also find it fascinating that they don't necessarily love each other romantically at the end of the novel, if I remember correctly. They're very happy together, but he does propose partly out of obligation. Have to check that though

    • @laurahill9643
      @laurahill9643 Před 2 lety +3

      Tilney and Wentworth are my favorite of Austen's men.

    • @ethanuyeda7352
      @ethanuyeda7352 Před 2 lety +11

      I also liked the way he was directly compared to John Thorpe, who was brutish and constantly needed to assert his masculinity. Much of the novel is about gender dynamics, and the two romantic interests even discuss feminism when they're on the mountain.

    • @akym82810
      @akym82810 Před 2 lety +2

      That's so true. I read Northanger for school and the rest for fun and I found that a lot of it is about money and class. That is, how economic and social class disparity impinge on interpersonal relationships and that love CAN transcend it, but not in a soppy way. It's socialist theory in a bonnet and an empire line dress.

    • @fairycat23
      @fairycat23 Před 2 lety +4

      Henry Tilney is a top-tier husbando.

  • @CaptainPeregrin
    @CaptainPeregrin Před 2 lety +81

    Fanny deserves way more love

    • @DanielThomasHutton
      @DanielThomasHutton Před 2 lety +2

      I love fanny.... te he

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales Před 2 lety +8

      @hasslfoot I wouldn't call Fanny judgemental; I'd call her firm in her convictions. She called it like she saw it. Henry WAS a troublemaker, who eventually tore the family apart, Mary WAS a gold digger who only cared about how things looked ("varnish and gilding") rather than how they morally were. Fanny just gets crapped on for being RIGHT. While readers fawn over Elizabeth Bennet (who is a million times more judgemental than Fanny, who honestly probably would have shrugged at Mr. Darcy and been wary of Wickham in Lizzy's place) because it's so "cute" how she was wrong and changed her mind.
      And yes, Fanny is in many ways a forerunner to Jane Eyre.

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales Před 2 lety

      @@DanielThomasHutton me too. She's the lead heroine in pretty much all my Jane Austen Fanfictions so far.

  • @br1qbat
    @br1qbat Před 2 lety +281

    Always kinda a bummer so many think Jane Austen is "chick lit". Read several of her novels and Austen's understanding of the psychology of people and their social interactions still sticks with me.

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +23

      Harold Bloom, one of the greatest literary critics of the 20th century, wrote that Austen was the true heir to Shakespeare, in the richness of her characters. He got it!

    • @freedomcat
      @freedomcat Před 2 lety +7

      @@MariaVosa If she were alive today, she would write books that psychologically would stimulate people.

    • @akym82810
      @akym82810 Před 2 lety +8

      That's so true. I read Northanger for school and then the others for fun, what struck me is that a lot of it is about money and class. Or rather, how economic and social class disparity impinge on interpersonal relationships and that love CAN transcend it, but not in the soppy way. It's socialist theory in a bonnet.

    • @akym82810
      @akym82810 Před 2 lety +2

      That's so true. I read Northanger for school and the rest for fun and I found that a lot of it is about money and class. That is, how economic and social class disparity impinge on interpersonal relationships and that love CAN transcend it, but not in a soppy way. It's socialist theory in a bonnet and an empire line dress.

    • @limerence8365
      @limerence8365 Před 2 lety +5

      It technically is. The misunderstanding comes when people assume chick lit is bad. Austen's books defined the genre of romantic comedy.

  • @insulaarachnid
    @insulaarachnid Před 2 lety +25

    It would be cool if you did an in depth look at Austen's "Bad Boys"; Wickham, William Elliott, Willoughby, Frank Churchill and Henry Crawford.

  • @historybuff7491
    @historybuff7491 Před 2 lety +27

    I think you missed the mark on Fanny Price. Especially, when she goes back home, you see how she doesn't fit in that world either. I always got that Fanny decided not to create her own world, but to find a balance, and ultimately a place, in the world she lived in the most - with her cousins. It also seemed to be protraying that Fanny, lived more appropriately than her rich cousins.

  • @luciacanali9832
    @luciacanali9832 Před 2 lety +51

    I love all the Austen heroines, but my favorite is Anne. Is true that at some point we all sort of want to be Lizzie, but I always felt more close to Anne because she was more melancholic I guess. There was a sadness and loneliness in her that were so familiar to my teenage self, and yet, she manages to get her happy ending in the end, so it was hopeful too.

    • @ereagan4
      @ereagan4 Před 2 lety +5

      Anne is so underappreciated. She’s my favorite too ❤️

    • @luciacanali9832
      @luciacanali9832 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ereagan4 so true, but I think Persuasion itself is underappreciated, which is a shame

    • @purcascade
      @purcascade Před 2 lety +6

      Anne is by far my favorite. Looking forward to the new adaptation.

    • @luciacanali9832
      @luciacanali9832 Před 2 lety +4

      @@purcascade oh, me too 💞

    • @remissao13
      @remissao13 Před 2 lety +1

      Anne is my favorite too. Her family never appreciated her, but she goes on being sensible, generous, and kind. And gets to be appreciated elsewhere.

  • @disgruntledmoderate5331
    @disgruntledmoderate5331 Před 2 lety +42

    Fanny is also disabled/sickly, which I've always appreciated as well. It's not a main point in the story, but it does come up several times. I think Fanny and Anne are my favorite protagonists. Henry Tilney is probably my favorite hero.
    We need a Mrs. Bennett video!

    • @floraposteschild4184
      @floraposteschild4184 Před 2 lety

      Fanny is poor, shy and homesick when she arrives at Mansfield Park. There was nothing wrong with her that a couple weeks of fresh air and good food couldn't cure, away from her loud, disordered home. Too bad she couldn't avoid being bullied in both places.

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales Před 2 lety +2

      @@floraposteschild4184 I dunno, even with good food at Mansfield and daily horse rides, she still suffered headaches and couldn't walk all the through the wood to the avenue on the Rushworths' property without getting winded; she really was sickly, beyond just bad food, neglect, or home sickness.
      This is something readers like to ignore when they champion Henry over Edmund; Henry apart from a selfish offer of taking her back home early and lamenting her being unwell does NOTHING practical for Fanny's health, whereas, we have at least one scene of Edmund making sure she drinks something and lies down when she's sick.

  • @princesstink1539
    @princesstink1539 Před 2 lety +52

    Mostly agree with everything but... I love Northanger Abbey! I feel like Isabella is such a compelling villain.

    • @lady14bug
      @lady14bug Před 2 lety +4

      It's a more real human story than many people think 🥰

    • @alissonm3739
      @alissonm3739 Před 2 lety

      Yes, I agree!

    • @ArtemisMS
      @ArtemisMS Před 2 lety

      It's my favorite of the six!

  • @lydia1634
    @lydia1634 Před 2 lety +63

    Reading "Sense and Sensibility" in light of Mary Wollstonecraft's "Vindication of the Rights of Women" was eye-opening. From that lens, Elinor Dashwood is a proto-feminist, living her life based on reason and sense rather than being an overemotional female.
    That being said, I personally identify way more with Marianne, since I am super emotional and Romantic and prone to melancholic outbursts. For extra funsies, I have an older sister just like Elinor and I think it's hilarious how accurate it all is. (When I told my older sister this, she let me know that you the point of the book is that Marianne needs to be like Elinor, which might be the most Elinor thing ever).

    • @alejandramoreno6625
      @alejandramoreno6625 Před 2 lety

      I am a Marianne too, even though I would like to be a Lizzie

    • @Amelia-vk4jt
      @Amelia-vk4jt Před rokem +1

      Lol I've always identified with Elinor more then Marianne, I generally make the prudent choice for myself and others, even if it hurts me or others I am of the opinion it is the best choice in the long run.
      And funnily enough I have a sister who is a Marianne, lives life to the fullest, strives for happiness and is wholly unapologetic about it, even if that can and does hurt people.
      I am of the opinion that Elinors ending is perfect because that's what I want for my sister, not for her "spirit" to die out, but for her to nurture it with more care so it doesn't burn others.

    • @Amelia-vk4jt
      @Amelia-vk4jt Před rokem

      @@natmj7851 I quite agree
      In my case I the sense am the younger sibling, while my sister the sensibility is the older.
      But I am definitely the "older sibling" in our relationship.
      When we had family trouble and someone had to take care of it, I did because she didn't and someone had to.
      I'm more mature and generally have made what most see as smarter life choices.
      Worked a lot as a teenager to save money so I could go to university.
      Moved abroad for opportunity etc.
      While she dropped out of school at 17, lives in social housing and has a low paying job.
      I didn't give up a social life to go after my goals, was even a bit of a partier I just kept a budget and knew I still had to study, go to school and work.
      Neither of us is unhappy with our lot in life though.
      I just happen to have more ambition then my sister and there's nothing wrong with that.
      One funny quirk though is that my sister doesn't really understand how hard I had to work for where I am, she told me recently that I was lucky to have a good paying job, and when I told her I have this job because I worked hard and studied hard she was like yeah I guess 🤣

  • @CerebrumMortum
    @CerebrumMortum Před 2 lety +46

    Great vid as usual. Just one remark:
    JA created much more than 6 characters in her 6 novels. And I personally think that her universal appeal is the fact her female characters are not cardboard while her male characters are not fantasy Joe.

  • @jackdoyle7453
    @jackdoyle7453 Před 2 lety +7

    I often thought persuasion was a bit autobiographical, and speaks to Austen's regret of being persuaded and persuading others to seek "good matches" rather than pursue the relationships that were meaningful to them.

  • @cbpd89
    @cbpd89 Před 2 lety +9

    I absolutely adore Austen, her humor just hits me. The characters are often so foolish and vain and so much fun is had at their expense.

  • @fatezaragosa2540
    @fatezaragosa2540 Před 2 lety +12

    Hot take!!!
    Mr. Darcy is a Tsundere
    Mr. Bingley is a himbo

  • @KaironQD
    @KaironQD Před 2 lety +5

    OMG you're 100% right that Colonel Brandon is "secretly low-key byronic" and I have no idea how I completely missed that before!!!

  • @authormichellefranklin
    @authormichellefranklin Před 2 lety +49

    Emma will always be my favourite. I adore Fanny, Anne, and Elinor too, but Emma's character arc has always been the most meaningful-- and she gets scolded by Mr Knightley. 10/10.
    Though we're focusing on the heroines here, I would like to point out Miss Bates, one of the greatest female characters every put to the page.
    And just remember, kids: Lizzy doesn't remember how much she loves Mr Darcy until she sees how big his house is ;)

    • @petalchild
      @petalchild Před 2 lety +9

      It has more to do with the way Darcy behaves and is perceived by the people close to him (such as the maid) and the fact that he acts more life his true self in the comfort of his own home.

    • @brubs2556
      @brubs2556 Před 2 lety +5

      @@petalchild and also how he treated her aunt and uncle, who are from the middle class.

  • @carolabrandariz4431
    @carolabrandariz4431 Před 2 lety +31

    I've recently read for the first time Mansfield Park. I had read all of Austen's other novels, but I had a copy of Mansfield Park in English and I had to wait until I was confident enough with my english skills to read it (my native language is Spanish). I was a little disappointed at first because Fanny isn't as engaging as Elizabeth Bennet or Emma. As said in the video, she doesn't really feel like the main character in her own story. She even comes across as a bit too... moralist? Not that it's a bad thing per se or even unexpected from Austen, whom we know had very strong beliefs.
    What I think upsets me more is the love interest. I am sure that if Fanny would have had the opportunity to a broader social life, she wouldn't have settled for literally the only man who is nice to her. Edmund pushes her to marry the other man (whose name I don't remember right now, but, you know, the bad boy of this story) and, though he doesn't know about the real nature of this man and eventually stops, his attitude turned me off a bit.
    But, on further consideration, Fanny's principles are remarkable. She never bends and sticks true to what she believes is right. In that sense, she is incredible strong against all odds. And I also have a soft spot for suffering unrequited love.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Před 2 lety +6

    The fact that there are so many Austen scholars makes my heart happy. We love to see it 👏🏽

  • @jaimicottrill2831
    @jaimicottrill2831 Před 2 lety +4

    I definitely admire Elizabeth Bennet but my favourite heroine is Elinor Dashwood. She is kind, sensible and has a lot of inner strength. Plus as older sister to a “Marianne “ type I strongly identified with her!

  • @Ms.July-Moon
    @Ms.July-Moon Před 2 lety +9

    I think we can love and appreciate Austen at different points in our lives. Like most people I wanted to be Lizzie Bennet (I am definitely Mary at this point), but I have gained the perspective to be able to appreciate Mrs. Bennet. She had anxiety because until her daughters married and she hoped that at least one of them would marry well she had nowhere to live if/when her husband died. Her home, the house where she came as a young bride, where she built her marriage (I think she and Mr. Bennet have one of those contentious marriages and that is how they are happy), had her children, would be completely lost to her. She would have to find somewhere to go and until she had her daughters safely married and hopefully married well she worried about being homeless or living on the charity of others. She says just that several times in the novel. Lizzie and Jane’s marriages would lift a great burden off her mind because she would have the mother in law suite at either house if Mr. Bennet pre-deceased her. I even can find the empathy for Lydia because she is married to a man that wants a return to the wealthy lifestyle that he was raised along side and wanted to emulate without the funding to do so. The money that he got because he had to marry Lydia wouldn’t be enough to fund the lifestyle of the idle rich that he so very much wanted. Lydia was raised to try to find a husband but she never put much thought into the marriage aspect where the day to day living parts of the marriage. When Mr. Bennet asks Lizzie if she thinks Mr. Darcy will make her happy she knows that he’s addressing the day to day, everyday, mundane life parts of her upcoming marriage not just her wedding day.

  • @MariaVosa
    @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +11

    Princess Weekes + Austen = JOY! It's so interesting how people rank her books and protagonists. I for one put S&S a lot lower on my list than most others do (P&P is no 1 of course) and I find Marianne Dashwood 100 times more aggravating than Emma. She does not deserve the Colonel and my fan fiction has him and Ellinor getting hitched instead (we barely even get to know Edward, he is a non-entity in the book). I really love Northanger Abbey, Catherine is imaginative, funny and she stands up for herself too. I always felt it deserved a higher ranking. I liked Emma a lot more on the second reading, when it is clear she is caring at heart, and quite insecure as well. She spent her entire life trying to be the perfect daughter, having to handle her father's and sister's nervous dispositions. She gets some very harsh (and deserved) lessons, but she handles them with far more grace than most people would. I love all ofAusten's books, butin order of preference I'd go 1) P&P, 2) Persuasion, 3) Northanger Abbey, 4) Emma, 5) Mansfield Park, 6) S&S

  • @MattSeremet
    @MattSeremet Před 2 lety +5

    There is no "Gilmore girls poor" they were forever safe under the watch of Emily and Richard. Lorelei had a trust fund revealed to her even.

  • @reminiscentoss681
    @reminiscentoss681 Před 2 lety +9

    Yes, hello. I'm here to fight for Henry Tilney and Catherine Moreland's honor.
    (Loved the video btw!).

  • @mhawang8204
    @mhawang8204 Před 2 lety +8

    How come I never knew there's an adaptation of Persuasion starring my queen Sally Hawkins?!
    A great video as usual. A shame how JA created so many colorful female protagonist back then, while complex female characters are still lacking today. That last remark about her passing away at 41 hit hard.

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, she was in the middle of writing 'Sandition' before Addison's disease took her.

  • @emilysorano7768
    @emilysorano7768 Před 2 lety +14

    elinor to me has always served eldest daughter i will take up the least emotional space realness, respect to her!

  • @itsesmeriel_
    @itsesmeriel_ Před 2 lety +11

    Lindsay and Princess are my dreamteam.

  • @andrewmcmullen8064
    @andrewmcmullen8064 Před 2 lety +10

    So weird seeing Keira Knightley’s Pride and Prejudice in this video since I’m so used to the Colin Firth mini-series

    • @DivaViews
      @DivaViews Před 2 lety

      I only acknowledge the 1995 P&P myself, Jennifer Ehle is the queen!

  • @Psychic_Sylph
    @Psychic_Sylph Před 2 lety +4

    A lot of people seem frustrated with Mansfield Park, and there's good reason too, especially since it's a story ABOUT frustration, but I also think that they see it for something it's not. I think they expect it to be a romance, when it's mostly social commentary about how the Elite thinks itself as the gatekeeper of virtue when even the genuinely well-intentioned ones like Edmund can be self-absorbed jackasses with poor judgement. If you're disappointed that Fanny's happy ending is marrying her cousin in the last page even though the text says she's too good for him, guess what? That's literally the best she could aspire to, be mad at her society for being THAT shitty, not at her for not saying sassy comebacks out loud to her shitty family or pulling herself by her own bootstraps, especially when she has so much to loose if she risks that. If she's content, then I'm content, it's regency era England, I'm not gonna judge her- *except* for the slavery, of course.

  • @melenatorr
    @melenatorr Před 2 lety +19

    What a wonderful presentation of these six very different and very compelling characters. Thanks!
    I will toss in a couple of cents:
    Sacrilege: I did not like "Pride and Prejudice" when I first read it. It was my first Austen novel, and I thought she was mean-spirited and especially nasty to Mary. I did not become interested in Austen until the televised broadcasts of the 1995 "Persuasion" closely followed by the 1997 production of "Mansfield Park" (both with Amanda Root (I didn't like the movie that came out soon afterward). It was only then that my mother and I embarked on a complete reading of Austen's six novels, and I ended up loving all of them ... some more than Lizzie, sorry.
    Catherine is a sweet and engaging character. There is a clarity to her, and an innocent honesty that won me over, and which is a great deal of what wins over Henry. She is presented in a perfect showcase of a novel, going through her paces despite the satiric tone of her narrator. I therefore give a gentle argument against your summation of Catherine of not having much substance. Not, certainly, compared to the others, but she is her own person, with her own voice and her own lesson to learn.
    I also will take a stand against the slotting of Emma as a mean girl. Emma has her mean girl moments, but they are mostly the result of the influence under which she was born and raised; it is not her core. As she goes through her story, slowly, painfully, with some backsliding, she broadens her views. Even before this, she truly thinks that she is doing Harriet Smith a good turn. She loves and cares for her father. Most important, she exhibits what the best Austen heroines do: the ability to learn from her mistakes, which is why she is a better person at the end than she was at the start.
    Thanks again for this great discussion!

  • @greenergrass4060
    @greenergrass4060 Před 2 lety +3

    Justice for Fanny. Like, shes so underrated

  • @Natalie_is_typing
    @Natalie_is_typing Před 2 lety +18

    What are the chances? I just started reading Northanger Abbey today! have to say I rep for Catherine Morland, the slightly naive bookworm with an over-active imagination is really relatable to me.

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +4

      Catherine is the best one save Lizzie Bennet. I love her.

    • @TheMagdalenaBB
      @TheMagdalenaBB Před 2 lety +1

      She is abit silly, but she is 15. I was abit silly at 15.

  • @j.a.c3350
    @j.a.c3350 Před 2 lety +12

    I'm not a fan of Austen like that (dodges rocks), but I love how Princess discusses novels and stories. And y'know, you might get me to re-read P&P (maybe).

    • @floraposteschild4184
      @floraposteschild4184 Před 2 lety +2

      Now that you're an adult? Austen can definitely be read too early. I was given a copy of P & P when I was 12, and I hardly understood what was happening.

    • @zhazhagab0r
      @zhazhagab0r Před 2 lety

      You might also try one of her other novels. I enjoy Northanger Abbey for its tongue-in-cheek tone and lighthearted relationships. Also highly recommend Persuasion. Not every author is for everyone, though. Just wanted to suggest some other options than P&P.

  • @zoebell1535
    @zoebell1535 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much! I've only read P & P, and now have a strong sense of each book, esp as each relates to the others. I especially appreciated your apt and edifying interjections from the various critics you chose. Please continue to make more videos. You absolutely rock.

  • @spacemanspiff01
    @spacemanspiff01 Před 2 lety +4

    The only issue I take with this breakdown of Austen’s female protagonists is your use of the Joe Wright version of the characters instead of the far superior BBC mini-series adaptation. The Keira Knightly movie is The Last Air Bender of Jane Austen movies lol.

  • @federicomunoz1842
    @federicomunoz1842 Před 2 lety +3

    Yaay! Princess! Such a nice video to drink coffee to ☕ I find these videos to be so calming and insightful

  • @MajaBiana
    @MajaBiana Před 2 lety +14

    Thank you for your video, but oh no no no no no, Northanger Abbey is *wonderful* ♡ The humor and satire is excellent and Tilney is the most emotionally intelligent Austen hero imo. It's my favourite Austen novel and it made me read Udolpho which was an experience that I'm really glad I had (even though I won't repeat it).
    I also want to add that while some people prefer Marianne, other people find her incredibly frustrating - from my experience in fan groups it's around 50-50 - so I was a little surprised by the text you included in the video that seemed quite biased in favour of Marianne and against Elinor.
    Last I want to add that her novels weren't published in the same order as she wrote them - and what happened to Lady Susan? The novel where the protagonist is the villain of the story!

    • @wilkobye9533
      @wilkobye9533 Před 2 lety +1

      Northhanger Abby fans unite!
      But yeah i think as far as I know Lady Susan is was never finished by Austen so it's not included here as it's about her completed works!

  • @justincheng5241
    @justincheng5241 Před 2 lety +6

    I wonder why people want to redeem Willoughby but few people want to redeem Wickham from PandP.. Another suggestion for a future video, I would love a comparison between Austen's heroines and Bronte's heroines.

  • @LibbyClarkeStudio
    @LibbyClarkeStudio Před 2 lety

    I love your mode of scholarship and I am rereading P&P because of you! THANK YOU!!!

  • @theladytudor3805
    @theladytudor3805 Před 2 lety +1

    "This is Austen's Ladies Night" and I am so glad to be here for it!!!! Also THANK YOU for doing Fanny 1st, she does not get enough love, and also thank you for drawing attention to her emotional abuse and how that colors the view of the story. Not every protagonist has to be able to defy reality/overcome everything by the end mark in order to be compelling. ❤

  • @unaanguila
    @unaanguila Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing the analysis of the books.

  • @MyssBlewm
    @MyssBlewm Před 2 lety +1

    Sense and Sensibility is so good!

  • @heatherloudermilk8297
    @heatherloudermilk8297 Před 2 lety +8

    what a wonderful video! i will say, i recently read persuasion for the first time and i really, REALLY love anne elliot. something about her story just resonated with me-- maybe it's because we're similar in age, maybe it's bc i have a thing for exes getting back together. she did feel more insular than other austen protags did, i think that's another way i relate to her though. again, thanks for the video!!

  • @rebeccaroy3751
    @rebeccaroy3751 Před 2 lety

    Love this analysis. Well put and fun. :)

  • @tizibump
    @tizibump Před 2 lety

    What a great video and analysis! Good job.

  • @freedomcat
    @freedomcat Před 2 lety +3

    I'd love to see Princess take apart High Guardian Spice.

  • @rafaela00002
    @rafaela00002 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, great to see Princess again 🥰

  • @peterdale8929
    @peterdale8929 Před 2 lety

    Love your insights and your style.

  • @ArtemisMS
    @ArtemisMS Před 2 lety +2

    Wow. The slander against Northanger Abbey, my favorite Austen novel... 😭😆

  • @amy2089
    @amy2089 Před 2 lety

    This is amazing. Love this content

  • @JanLegris
    @JanLegris Před 2 lety

    Awesome energy :) Thank you for the good time.

  • @kaybouie1972
    @kaybouie1972 Před 2 lety

    I know most of this about Austen, but I am totally here for Weekes presentation. It's everything👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤩

  • @terrehonbowden3472
    @terrehonbowden3472 Před 2 lety

    kudos young lady! I loved it and chuckled quite a bit.

  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry Před 2 lety

    Damn. I’ve already taken the survey. Someone, please give Lindsey a hug for this fan.

  • @veronicaleighauthor
    @veronicaleighauthor Před 2 lety +2

    Going to respectfully disagree about the analysis of Northanger Abbey and characters, but I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED this video. I've been waiting for Jane Austen themed video for ages. And yay, shout out to Fanny Burney! Can I pretty-please you into making a Fanny Burney video, or one devoted to Anne Bronte? Or Elizabeth Gaskell? Or Louisa May Alcott?

  • @Serenityluver
    @Serenityluver Před 2 lety +3

    This is an Anne Elliot Stan account 💪🏻

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Před 2 lety

    This video is such a lovely primer on Jane Austen and her works. 👏🏽

  • @liamwhittaker2853
    @liamwhittaker2853 Před 2 lety

    Great video!!!

  • @jennyyeh4730
    @jennyyeh4730 Před 2 lety +1

    “Rest in power !” 🙌🏽

  • @annabeinglazy5580
    @annabeinglazy5580 Před 2 lety +8

    I frigging Love Emma. Because shes a Snob. She is a Girl who thinks she knows best for everyone and needs to have her head Set straight. And i frigging Love it. When people complain about her being unlikable i have to chuckle because thats exactly why i Like her character. We all know a Girl Like Emma. Or we have been a Girl Like Emma. Either way i cant wait to see her rebuked and come to Term with Not being the genius that she thought she was.
    I seem to Love that stuff in general considering that thats also a facet of lizzie bennett's character that i appreciated. The ability o realize that she Made a premature judgement. And manages to move past it. Again. Relatable.

  • @Mrderwrtr
    @Mrderwrtr Před 2 lety

    Love to watch you explain these books...books that I would probably never have read. You make them so entertaining. Plus, I loved the way you pronounced En ga land...lol.

    • @petalchild
      @petalchild Před 2 lety +1

      They are entertaining. You should give them a chance 🙂

  • @suisui7481
    @suisui7481 Před 2 lety +4

    I know not the subject of the video but at 0:50 i saw lindsay and am wondering if she is still gonna do free lance work for PBS

  • @thegirlinthefireplace
    @thegirlinthefireplace Před 2 lety

    I finally listened to the audio books of Pride and Prejudice afterwards Persuasion in 2020. Both were great, different flavors of Austin's style; had a lovely time. I meant to listen to Norhanger Abbey but got busy.. now I plan to get back to it!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the classic fiddle playing as the soundtrack to this video

  • @dylanfox8597
    @dylanfox8597 Před 2 lety +3

    The hot take that the adaptation of Emma is not Emma is fascinating

  • @elrhunadan
    @elrhunadan Před 2 lety +3

    Killed me with the sk8er boi

  • @ThePastelAssassin
    @ThePastelAssassin Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your work in this channel and your video essays. I've recently discovered Samuel R. Delany and have begun reading some of his books. Would you cover a video topic on this author in a future video please? I've enjoyed what interviews I've been able to find of him on CZcams and can't believe I hadn't discovered him sooner. He's such an interesting person.

  • @phadenswandemil4345
    @phadenswandemil4345 Před 2 lety +18

    Ooo i'm pumped. When i first started reading Jane Austen, a lot of people told me about the romance. But it was never the romance which drew me to her books. I was intrigued by how england was like "back then" and how her heroines fit into that world.
    But yes the romances were pretty well written too.
    Edit: finished watching the video. Northanger Abbey was my favourite Jane Austen novel. Because i was 13 and i too had a wild imagination, so Catherine was super relatable.

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa Před 2 lety +1

      Yay! Another lover of NA! I think it is great too.

  • @graphosxp
    @graphosxp Před 2 lety

    this was fun!

  • @wilkobye9533
    @wilkobye9533 Před 2 lety +2

    I think you're being a bit mean about northhanger Abby! It's a fun read and I think while it is making fun of and being smart about gothic lit it's also a really sweet love letter to the genre! I think its also interesting that, while a lot of Austen's other novels have a misdoing of a man as the central conflict, this one is centered on a betrayal of friendship between women. I love northhanger Abby it's such a sweet and fun book a real comfort read

  • @KierTheScrivener
    @KierTheScrivener Před 2 lety +3

    Emma is my favourite protagionist. I love Anne and Fanny and I adore Northanger Abby. And of course Elizabeth, I still need to read Sense and Sensibility

  • @isabelasabbatini4431
    @isabelasabbatini4431 Před 2 lety +1

    Please read Devoney Looser's The Making of Jane Austen, it just adds SO MUCH to any and every Austen discussion.

  • @GraciePattenSewing
    @GraciePattenSewing Před 2 lety

    I'd love to see a video on the novels of Fanny Burney!

  • @carolynowens620
    @carolynowens620 Před 2 lety

    I just enjoy princess's insightful and entertaining commentary please more of you and less quotes from academics. You are awesome!

  • @luciemedici
    @luciemedici Před 2 lety

    Thanx 💕

  • @ursatzotschew7541
    @ursatzotschew7541 Před rokem

    14:08 why you gotta picture of the Biltmore house?🤨
    Asheville, NC baby!!

  • @bjgoodrich5864
    @bjgoodrich5864 Před 2 lety +3

    Can you please do a video about the author of The Princess and the Goblin!
    💝😻💝

  • @emilydouglas3610
    @emilydouglas3610 Před 2 lety +9

    You got Catherine Morland completely wrong. She's always right, and she is literally almost kicked out of a wealthy house without the means to get home (and is indeed kicked out, but Eleanor Tilney gives her money so she can get home) because she is not as wealthy as General Tilney was lead to believe.

  • @sidneyririmasse7129
    @sidneyririmasse7129 Před 2 lety

    I love this episode princess

  • @kassywilson9276
    @kassywilson9276 Před 2 lety

    I have most often been compared to Elinor, but Anne resonates with me most closely. But oh the gentle satire of the social mores!

  • @Alastherra
    @Alastherra Před 2 lety +1

    Even after two hundred years Mr Darcy is the god of all romance novels lol

  • @oliviasibbet8814
    @oliviasibbet8814 Před 2 lety

    you are a phenom. keep it up

  • @avariceseven9443
    @avariceseven9443 Před 2 lety

    I want to love her works, listened to the audiobooks of Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Mansfield Park and I was gonna listen to Emma too but...for some reason, I can't absorb the story. There are parts that sticks to me but none of them really captivates me. Is there a technique how to be in the mood for her novels?
    I've listened to Anne of Green Gables series (all 8 books, not listened to the chronicles yet) like multiple times last year (at least 6x), Little Women and the sequels, Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights, Daddy Long Legs and Dear Enemy, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Fin and a few more these past year and most of them I loved or at least understand what the story is about but I can't seem to get my head wrap around Jane Austen's works. lol I tried listening to them a few times. Pride and Prejudice for example, I had listened 3x already.
    Hoping one day I'll be able to at least enjoy those novels.

  • @emberandfriendsanimations2454

    Last time I was this early, Shakespeare hadn’t started writing yet

  • @herestia_photography
    @herestia_photography Před 2 lety +1

    Quite awesome, as Spanish, to hear an american say "Murcia". It's quite a meme region here, like the Kansas or Texas of USA. (And it's MUR-cee-a, the "a" pronounced as in "America" ^^)

  • @hectorrobertocontrerasmiranda

    Not that I don't normally like Princess work but this is probably the BEST of her on camera, an absolute delight!
    on the other hand I'm wondering if Emma (my personal favorite) would be more popular with general audiences had Miss Austen given her a cool scar that covers half her face and been very explicit on her having black hair

    • @Princess_Weekes
      @Princess_Weekes Před 2 lety

      I appreciate that. I feel I have grown a lot in this format. Thank you :)

  • @bjgoodrich5864
    @bjgoodrich5864 Před 2 lety

    And can you please also make a video of Kenneth Oppel who wrote SilverWing!
    💝🦇💝

  • @AleshaM30
    @AleshaM30 Před 2 lety +1

    A lot of people try to fool themselves into thinking they are a Lizzy, but some of us just out here living comfortable in our Elinor-ness. We support you though, while you figuring it out. :)

  • @matthewfoster3780
    @matthewfoster3780 Před 2 lety

    I could watch Princess read the phone book on camera ❤️

  • @morgannichols3685
    @morgannichols3685 Před 2 lety

    Hey loved your analysis, but have you ever read Jane Austen’s other book ‘Lady Susan’? I’d check it out if I were you.

  • @elew223
    @elew223 Před 2 lety +7

    I think it's funny you used Jawbreaker as a teen movie metaphor for Emma when Clueless was actually the teen movie loosely based on Emma. Also to be fair to Emma (I didn't like her all that much out of the heroines), Augusta was way meaner. She's classist and snobby like Emma can get, but you get the impression that Emma means well versus Augusta who goes out of her way to be rude to poor Harriet. But Emma is hardly perfect either.

  • @BrytteM
    @BrytteM Před 2 lety +2

    Princess I live you but will defend to the end that the 1995 miniseries is better than the 2005 movie

  • @caitlinb
    @caitlinb Před 2 lety

    Love Lindsay and Princess 💜

  • @thedivabetic
    @thedivabetic Před 2 lety

    "Or at least an avenger" had me dying 🤣

  • @alinktoana
    @alinktoana Před 2 lety

    Ok correct me if I’m wrong, but Marianne Dashwood’s story arc sounds a lot like Natasha Rostova’s from War and Peace to me? Tolstoy I see you getting some references~~~ 👀 lol

  • @thepresence365
    @thepresence365 Před 2 lety

    Okay, now I'm going to ask some of my seniors doing independent reading the Sk8ter Boi question 😂
    Edit: I will fight you on that Northanger Abbey critique 😏