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A wonderful piano! It inspired you to play so well. I've always been impressed with Bosendorfers. I don't like that flash Harry Black polyester cabinet and would prefer to see a more traditional wood finish.
Really enjoyed that. Clearly one of the top uprights made today. For me, the clarity of each note is stellar. It has a rich tone with no nasty overtones, a wide dynamic range that is never harsh, good bass and clear singing treble. Hard to beat for sure. The Steingraeber 138cm is up there too. Apples to apples, this is crisp, sweet and a bit magical. Thanks for sharing this.
I would love to make a video on the Steingraeber. I came across one at NAMM 2017, but the environment there is so noisy I wasn't really able to get a great recording of it. This piano, for sure, is a very high end upright.
It is hard to be recorded playing a difficult piece of music on the spot. It is hard to be recorded playing anything let alone Chopin. James is amazing.
Beautiful playing , with a beautiful piano that just sang out in majestical magic . Both you and your playing partner, this wonderful instrument was astounding .
Have you no concept of sound? It’s not JUST an upright. It’s the price it is because it can comfortably compete with many grands. (and better a lot of them) 🎶🕶
I haven't heard many Bösendorfers, but from what I've heard, they tend to have a really nice, clear yet warm sound, and this piano definitely seems consistent with what I've heard from this make. I definitely like what I heard here.
Superb playing as usual and I love thr piano. There is a Kimball 130 for sale here in the UK for $9000 which is essentially the same piano from when Kimball owned Bosendorfer. The seller says it is identical apart from it having a pressure bar instead of agraffes.
Thank you. I work on it every day so I can play it to the best of my ability. It also helps to have a world class action, and so the piano needs a great deal of the credit as well.
Bro, you are simply AMAZING! You really made this upright shine!!! It’s the most amazing sounding upright piano I’ve ever experienced, largely in part to your AMAZING ability! Thank you for the amazing video!!! 👍👍❤️❤️ BTW... I own a 1916 Steinway model V, but this one destroyed mine! 🤬🤬🤬
When you get to this level of uprights they are all very nice and refined. I would say the action of these pianos is very close to the same level of performance as a concert grand, but most sound a bit boxy compared to a concert grand. The other major difference between a concert grand and a vertical grand upright is the projection is less, but also less is needed as these would undoubtedly end up in a home environment. As far as the difference between any two great upright concert grands the difference comes more between the personality of the individual pianos themselves, and for this much money, I would insist on playing the piano I was going to buy, and not just ordering one. That could be hard to do as they are quite rare, but it's what I would do. If you like the one you are playing then you might order one with the idea you could chose the better of the two when it comes in.
Great playing and great sound. I have a 1919 Charles M Stieff upright (3 pedals) we bought for $100 (!!!) from a friend that was moving. The keys, peals and strings are original and sound fantastic. While on a 6-week business trip my wife and mom finished it in a deep red mahogany and it now occupies a special position in our very modern house. The art deco touches contrast well with the minimalism of the house. One of my sons plays and we've spent many an hour enjoying Bach, Chopin and Rachmaninoff and lately Astor Piazzolla.
Probably the best sounding vertical piano I have ever heard. However, with a MSRP of $73,999 do they sell any? You play it beautifully, James. How did it feel to play?
Glad you liked it! As I said earlier, I could really see why someone would buy this piano, as its action is superb and it takes up far less space than any horizontal grand.
I think once you've played the Bosendorfer upright, you are spoiled for any other upright, including the Steinway. The Steingraeber 138 might be the only competitor.
David, We have always been impressed with the Baldwin 6000 from the late 80's. We uploaded one a while back and it is in the "The Search of the Worlds Greatest Uprights Series" play list on my channel. Please keep in mind that the video was made a long time ago and the camera with sound is about 15 years old.
Mmm yes.Baldwin in their heyday seem to have produced some wonderful instruments. I was really in my comment thinking of models currently in production. We see very few Baldwins in the UK. I've only ever tuned one, a little console size upright which wasn't spectacular. At the Piano Tuners Association annual meeting back in the 1980s there was a gorgeous Baldwin grand, probably around 7' and it had that lovely 'plummy' tone quality, in the same tonal family as the Baldwin played by the great great great Earl Wild (and Liberace of course, also great in his own particular and very financially successful way).
Since I was 12 my practice piano has been a Baldwin SF-10 (7ft.). It was made in 1977 and started off it's life at the S.F. Symphony (Davies Hall). It was during a time when Steinway was having a tough time (Teflon era), and Baldwin was making their best pianos ever. The 7 ft., and 9 ft foot pianos were heavenly, but the rest of the line were just O.K. A few days ago we purchased a new, used practice piano that is being shipped to the studio in Tennessee. I will use it mostly, and try to keep the hours off the concert grand (yet to be purchased). The SF-10 will be retired and moved into the house, and one day hope to have it restored.
I will look for one, but Schimmel has never impressed me as the forefront on any of the pianos that they make. If I run across one I will review it and keep an open mind.
ThePianoforever Oh sorry, my bad;) Im looking for high quality uprights under $10k, and my current piano is a Yamaha upright. (I don’t really Iike the bright tone). What would you recommend?
bbrryyssoonnn bbrryyssoonnn Here is a link to a Baldwin 6000 that we owned some years ago, keep in mind that the audio was from the camera and was prehistoric compaired to today's audio. czcams.com/video/vPX6sEKo62A/video.html
Hey James - nice playing as usual but you've sort of spoiled us due to your playing of grands and despite this being a nice upright, it really does't stand much of a chance compared to most of the grands you've come across. This is normal I suppose but frankly I was expecting a little more due to this one's Bosendorfer heritage. What was YOUR impression?
Glad you liked it. This series is not intended to compete with the concert grand series, instead it is supposed to compare vertical grands and other such upright pianos to each other. I always prefer a horizontal grand to a vertical grand, but due to space requirements I could see why someone would buy this piano. The action easily held up to almost any grand piano I have played, and I have come to realize that Bosendorfer has some of the best actions in the world in their new pianos.
Dear James, if you can, you ought to find a fully restored, full size Estey upright piano, made in New York. Although not traditionally thought of as being in league with Mason & Hamlin, Knabe, etc, I have played a restored Estey and it had a gorgeous, powerful and clear sound, with rich bass and singing treble, kind of like a Chickering, but maybe a little darker, and a bit louder (although could still be played with dynamics, of course). The piano to which I refer was also a player with an Estey player action, and played great both by hand and with the rolls. Worth checking out for sure! I would also try a McPhail upright, an Emerson upright, a Conover, and an old pre 1920 Everett. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Andrew, I am always looking for great pianos of any vintage or make. I have found that the main thing to look for was the tonal quality as many seem to be rather cold, but not always. If I find one that I like I would of course love to do a review of it.
ThePianoforever Awesome! I don't know where you're located, but I recommend visiting some good piano restorers and inquiring what they've recently restored and see if you can try it/them out. You will likely thus be able to play a variety of instruments in top shape. On the East Coast I recommend contacting Brian Grindrod, Herb Lindahl and Paul Manganaro. In the Midwest, I would try Edward Lisauskas (Lukas Piano Service, Chicago) and Doug L. Bullock (Piano World Enterprises, Alton, IL). They should be able to hook you up with some great uprights. All these folks have websites.
We know a few very good restorers, but few will restore an upright as the budget is just not there. When you figure what the piano would be worth before and after it would be hard to justify the cost of the restoration of an upright piano. I have yet to see an upright where someone has replaced the soundboard.
I bought a 1918's Estey 134cms tall upright in original condition for about $1000,00, and although it still not well regulated in action, I like the sound very much. It does have a singing treble and a good bass, not great but good. Someday I'll bring a great technician to make it perfect to play, unfortunately there arent much information about Esteys on yt or internet, but I was really surprised by how great my upright sounds. Maybe because at mid 50's they produced lots of low-quality spinets, I dont know...but the older ones are definitely worth a try!
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i just buy Bosendorfer 120, if you come in Paris one day :)
A wonderful piano! It inspired you to play so well. I've always been impressed with Bosendorfers. I don't like that flash Harry Black polyester cabinet and would prefer to see a more traditional wood finish.
Really enjoyed that. Clearly one of the top uprights made today. For me, the clarity of each note is stellar. It has a rich tone with no nasty overtones, a wide dynamic range that is never harsh, good bass and clear singing treble. Hard to beat for sure. The Steingraeber 138cm is up there too. Apples to apples, this is crisp, sweet and a bit magical. Thanks for sharing this.
I would love to make a video on the Steingraeber. I came across one at NAMM 2017, but the environment there is so noisy I wasn't really able to get a great recording of it. This piano, for sure, is a very high end upright.
Incredible. I’m surprised at the clarity coming from my crappy phone speakers.
@@ThePianoforever would you say the bosendorfer 1:30 is equally as good as the Bechstein concert 8?
This is an impressive upright. I like the color of the Boesendorfers. Nothing can compare to it.
We like the 1950's Bosies, and also the current 280 VC. One thing that all the new ones have in common is that the actions feel like silk.
ThePianoforever I almost got one of these for 3,000. He then changed his mind. STILL heartbroken, and I'd never sell it.
A Bösendorfer truly is the most wonderful sound in the world 😍
Your playing was so beautiful and amazing, I almost cried.
Wow! This is one of the best interpretations of fantasie impromptu i've ever heard! And what a piano, it sounds like a grand.
It is hard to be recorded playing a difficult piece of music on the spot. It is hard to be recorded playing anything let alone Chopin. James is amazing.
Thank you.
Beautiful playing , with a beautiful piano that just sang out in majestical magic . Both you and your playing partner, this wonderful instrument was astounding .
it sounds like a grand piano! and your playing is wonderful!
The bass on this bos is superb along with the rest of it.
Marvelous! You put so much heart into the piece.
I Dream of a Bosendorfer 130 in an empty spot in my house, but my bank acount says Kawai K500 - K800, life is so unfair.
Yes, definitely 🙂
Maybe be on the lookout for a used one?
OMG...what a beautiful sound from an upright!!
I lot of people really like this video.
Very powerful considerig it's "just" an upright piano.
The strings are the same size as a mid size horizontal grand.
The strings are approx the size of a 170 grand....
Have you no concept of sound? It’s not JUST an upright. It’s the price it is because it can comfortably compete with many grands. (and better a lot of them) 🎶🕶
This doesn't get old. Thanks.
I haven't heard many Bösendorfers, but from what I've heard, they tend to have a really nice, clear yet warm sound, and this piano definitely seems consistent with what I've heard from this make. I definitely like what I heard here.
We are very fond of the 280 VC, and also this one as well. This piano gets a lot of hits for it being up for a very short time overall.
phenomenal sound
Thank you, I calmed down.
very pretty sound-it helps that he plays well. awesome.
Great performance.👍
Nice sound. I love it.
greatt!!!!!!the bass on this ...amazzing
That sounds like a legit grand piano lol
I would for this series to return one day James.
During my 40 years working life as a Piano Tuner there are only a handful of instrument that I have come across that really stand out
@Otis De Marie Probably this, Steingraeber, Bechstein, and Grotrian 60+ inchers.
Superb playing as usual and I love thr piano. There is a Kimball 130 for sale here in the UK for $9000 which is essentially the same piano from when Kimball owned Bosendorfer. The seller says it is identical apart from it having a pressure bar instead of agraffes.
BRAVO!
Absolutely great, even better than some grand pianos.
The performance of fantasie impromptu was amazing I've seen thousands of interpretations and none of those is like yours
Thank you.
I work on it every day so I can play it to the best of my ability. It also helps to have a world class action, and so the piano needs a great deal of the credit as well.
ThePianoforever how Long did it take you to actually play the whole thing? Not master it but only play it
I could play it through pretty well after about three months, but no one could ever master FI.
Fantastic vertical piano!
Incredible Sound and Beautiful Touch Bro!!!! I enjoyed it!! What upright Bosendorfer is this
Master..!🎹🎹🎹🥳👍🎄🎄🎄🇪🇨 Saludos 😄
Like a beautiful dream.
Beautiful, Love Paritosh Australia
great play
Thank you.
Amazing :-)
Thank you Matthias!
listened to this on some krk monitors; that piano ton is quite good.
NICE SONG
can you please tell me in what temperament this piano is tuned, thank you.
What’s are your thoughts on this piano? Thanks for the amazing content!
Bro, you are simply AMAZING! You really made this upright shine!!! It’s the most amazing sounding upright piano I’ve ever experienced, largely in part to your AMAZING ability! Thank you for the amazing video!!! 👍👍❤️❤️ BTW... I own a 1916 Steinway model V, but this one destroyed mine! 🤬🤬🤬
I have a video coming out soon of a really neat upright, stay tuned for that!
Great sound. These pianos go for almost 80 K new.
Great playing for sure. How would you compare it to the Grotrian 132 you played awhile back?
When you get to this level of uprights they are all very nice and refined. I would say the action of these pianos is very close to the same level of performance as a concert grand, but most sound a bit boxy compared to a concert grand. The other major difference between a concert grand and a vertical grand upright is the projection is less, but also less is needed as these would undoubtedly end up in a home environment. As far as the difference between any two great upright concert grands the difference comes more between the personality of the individual pianos themselves, and for this much money, I would insist on playing the piano I was going to buy, and not just ordering one. That could be hard to do as they are quite rare, but it's what I would do. If you like the one you are playing then you might order one with the idea you could chose the better of the two when it comes in.
grande!!!!!!
Boss of the uprights.
I love Chopin. ❤
Buen sonido.
With all your experience Id love to know which upright is most affordable ($2000-5000) with a great sound?
Find a great used piano.
Great playing and great sound. I have a 1919 Charles M Stieff upright (3 pedals) we bought for $100 (!!!) from a friend that was moving. The keys, peals and strings are original and sound fantastic. While on a 6-week business trip my wife and mom finished it in a deep red mahogany and it now occupies a special position in our very modern house.
The art deco touches contrast well with the minimalism of the house. One of my sons plays and we've spent many an hour enjoying Bach, Chopin and Rachmaninoff and lately Astor Piazzolla.
Your house sounds a bit like ours.
Probably the best sounding vertical piano I have ever heard. However, with a MSRP of $73,999 do they sell any? You play it beautifully, James. How did it feel to play?
Glad you liked it! As I said earlier, I could really see why someone would buy this piano, as its action is superb and it takes up far less space than any horizontal grand.
I think once you've played the Bosendorfer upright, you are spoiled for any other upright, including the Steinway. The Steingraeber 138 might be the only competitor.
David,
We have always been impressed with the Baldwin 6000 from the late 80's. We uploaded one a while back and it is in the "The Search of the Worlds Greatest Uprights Series" play list on my channel. Please keep in mind that the video was made a long time ago and the camera with sound is about 15 years old.
Mmm yes.Baldwin in their heyday seem to have produced some wonderful instruments. I was really in my comment thinking of models currently in production. We see very few Baldwins in the UK. I've only ever tuned one, a little console size upright which wasn't spectacular. At the Piano Tuners Association annual meeting back in the 1980s there was a gorgeous Baldwin grand, probably around 7' and it had that lovely 'plummy' tone quality, in the same tonal family as the Baldwin played by the great great great Earl Wild (and Liberace of course, also great in his own particular and very financially successful way).
Since I was 12 my practice piano has been a Baldwin SF-10 (7ft.). It was made in 1977 and started off it's life at the S.F. Symphony (Davies Hall). It was during a time when Steinway was having a tough time (Teflon era), and Baldwin was making their best pianos ever. The 7 ft., and 9 ft foot pianos were heavenly, but the rest of the line were just O.K. A few days ago we purchased a new, used practice piano that is being shipped to the studio in Tennessee. I will use it mostly, and try to keep the hours off the concert grand (yet to be purchased). The SF-10 will be retired and moved into the house, and one day hope to have it restored.
Sorry ,what do you mean in th description : " ..., in fact the only one he has ever played
The only Bosendorfer 130 he has ever played.
How much does the 130 cost. The website doesn’t say the price
It's not cheap.... :)
Why haven't you tried a Schimmel upright yet? I think they are at the forefront of uprights.
I will look for one, but Schimmel has never impressed me as the forefront on any of the pianos that they make. If I run across one I will review it and keep an open mind.
The Austrian beauty.
What do you think about Fazioli uprights?
I don't believe they make them.
ThePianoforever Oh sorry, my bad;) Im looking for high quality uprights under $10k, and my current piano is a Yamaha upright. (I don’t really Iike the bright tone). What would you recommend?
If I were you I would be on the lookout for a really nice used Baldwin 6000 from the early 1980's or a Mason and Hamlin model 50, or a Steinway K.
bbrryyssoonnn bbrryyssoonnn Here is a link to a Baldwin 6000 that we owned some years ago, keep in mind that the audio was from the camera and was prehistoric compaired to today's audio. czcams.com/video/vPX6sEKo62A/video.html
Alright, thank you!
which song is this?
Fantaisie Impromptu by Chopin
Thank you💗
Hey James - nice playing as usual but you've sort of spoiled us due to your playing of grands and despite this being a nice upright, it really does't stand much of a chance compared to most of the grands you've come across. This is normal I suppose but frankly I was expecting a little more due to this one's Bosendorfer heritage. What was YOUR impression?
Glad you liked it. This series is not intended to compete with the concert grand series, instead it is supposed to compare vertical grands and other such upright pianos to each other.
I always prefer a horizontal grand to a vertical grand, but due to space requirements I could see why someone would buy this piano. The action easily held up to almost any grand piano I have played, and I have come to realize that Bosendorfer has some of the best actions in the world in their new pianos.
Good god, what is there not to like about that sound? Just let something stand on its own merit and enjoy, who cares about about a 200 plus cm grand.
Wow very good playing and also piano!!!! How much is it? Can you say me it?
I don't really talk about prices as I don't want people to think that I am trying to sell pianos. I bet you could google it too find the list price.
Dear James, if you can, you ought to find a fully restored, full size Estey upright piano, made in New York.
Although not traditionally thought of as being in league with Mason & Hamlin, Knabe, etc, I have played a restored Estey and it had a gorgeous, powerful and clear sound, with rich bass and singing treble, kind of like a Chickering, but maybe a little darker, and a bit louder (although could still be played with dynamics, of course). The piano to which I refer was also a player with an Estey player action, and played great both by hand and with the rolls. Worth checking out for sure!
I would also try a McPhail upright, an Emerson upright, a Conover, and an old pre 1920 Everett. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Andrew,
I am always looking for great pianos of any vintage or make. I have found that the main thing to look for was the tonal quality as many seem to be rather cold, but not always. If I find one that I like I would of course love to do a review of it.
ThePianoforever Awesome! I don't know where you're located, but I recommend visiting some good piano restorers and inquiring what they've recently restored and see if you can try it/them out. You will likely thus be able to play a variety of instruments in top shape. On the East Coast I recommend contacting Brian Grindrod, Herb Lindahl and Paul Manganaro. In the Midwest, I would try Edward Lisauskas (Lukas Piano Service, Chicago) and Doug L. Bullock (Piano World Enterprises, Alton, IL). They should be able to hook you up with some great uprights. All these folks have websites.
We know a few very good restorers, but few will restore an upright as the budget is just not there. When you figure what the piano would be worth before and after it would be hard to justify the cost of the restoration of an upright piano. I have yet to see an upright where someone has replaced the soundboard.
I bought a 1918's Estey 134cms tall upright in original condition for about $1000,00, and although it still not well regulated in action, I like the sound very much. It does have a singing treble and a good bass, not great but good. Someday I'll bring a great technician to make it perfect to play, unfortunately there arent much information about Esteys on yt or internet, but I was really surprised by how great my upright sounds. Maybe because at mid 50's they produced lots of low-quality spinets, I dont know...but the older ones are definitely worth a try!
How much is that?
Martin Brand new they generally sell for around $48,000, assuming you’re just getting the standard high polish ebony finish and standard cabinetry.
$50,000...it better be good.
And what is with Blüthner 146 and Steingräber & Söhne 138? This uprigt pianos are much better.
My Yammy U3 is the same, don't know what all the fuss is about !!!. In color and key number, I mean 😄 😄 😄
Great performance, James!
yikes...nice piano...but this kid can play!