Tippet Rings - Explained + Tutorial
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- In this video, Brian Flechsig at Mad River Outfitters breaks down the usefulness of tippet rings, how to use them correctly and explains common misconceptions.
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These rings are tiny, useful and hopefully now you can use them to make your fishing experience a little smoother, like butter 😎 Do you use tippet rings?
If you decide to build your own leaders for large and smallmouth bass would you recommend using tippet rings to connect the tippet to the rest of the leader?
@@Day5Aquatics yes
Thank you for not thinking these types of questions are “too basic” or common knowledge that are not worthy of an instructional video. I’m learning a ton from your channel.
Always happy to help. Thanks for watching.
I use tippet rings on almost everything. I tie the ring on the line while its still on the snap ring. Will have to try clamps for that. Great video
Give it a shot and let us know what you think! It works. 🤙
@@dangrango2553 100% that is the entire point of having all the rings on the clip.. just tie on the ring closet to the exit and slip it off.. i can't believe he's breaking out pliers lol
I leave it on the snap ring when I tie the ring on too. I’ve dropped too many in the river to do it with hemos..
Can't spill all your tippit rings into the river if you keep it on the snap ring when tying on! :-)
Brand new to the sport/art of fly fishing - thank you so much for all of these informative and well explained videos! As a beginner, I so appreciate it! Thanks from AZ
Thanks so much for watching. Please let us know how we can help in your quest!
I have been fly fishing for 3 years, thanks to a good friend teaching me and helping me to find my way into the sport. there are things I know and things I do not know as I watch your channel and your videos but I always learn something and I thank you.
Thanks for being here. We are happy to help.
Another great video. Keep up the great work. Absolutely loving it. Like butter!!!!!!
Thanks SuperNagz, lots more coming!
Great video. I use tippet rings always. I fish mountain streams where I can only take one rod with me as I hike upstream, so when I have an opportunity to switch to a dry fly or terrestrial, or a streamer, I still just tie a fresh piece of tippet onto the tippet ring. Doesn’t cause drift or sinking issues with dries In my experience since drifts are not that long. I have had the same tapered leader on my rod for months.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Great video I have learned a lot from these ...thanks again from Alberta
Thank you for being here!
I've come back to fly fishing after a 15 year hiatus, tippet rings are for me are the most useful innovation during that time, love them!
We agree! Thanks for watching and welcome back!
Thank you for the knowledge! Never heard of a tippet ring before this video. I'm in south texas so bass, panfish, and some saltwater species are all I go for so this was very interesting to watch!
Thanks for watching. Happy to help and please stay tuned.
High quality, educational video. Thanks for explaining this so well.
We'll pass the word on to, Brian. Thanks for being here Robert and stay tuned, lots more coming!
MRO thanks alot for videos. Your teaching me to fly fish....big time beginner.
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
Brian, I just received my 2mm tippet rings. You HAVE TO explain to folks actually how tiny these things are. I’m completely mind blown. I mean, 2mm is small but it’s a real size when you grab one with hemostats. Thank you again for all these videos. You are awesome.
Thanks for watching.
Great Video regarding those tiny rings! Me personaly I use these on almost all of my leaders. Especially when I'm fishing for seatrout in the european baltic. You can tie a short piece of fluo with a second fly to them so the picky fish have got two options 👍
Thanks for being here.
Those Dr Slick gold looped Hemostats are brilliant. As Brian would say, like butter 😉
Exactly!
Awesome video. Ive been using those things for years. Only thing is get the good ones like you showed or another trusted name. I got a bulk pack from Amazon not thinking there would be a difference and lost a few good fish not realizing they were not polished smooth and cutting my line
Hardly ever pays to skimp on terminal tackle. It the tippet or tippet ring breaks, don't matter how much your rod and reel costs. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video!
Thanks, Hyun! We're stoked for whats coming. Stay tuned!
Thank you for a nice professional video
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.
Vielen Dank, das hat mir sehr weiter geholfen.
Happy this helped! Thanks a lot for watching. 👍
Tippet rings are my favorite thing in the world (once they are actually on my leader that is), they're just so convenient! I like the tip about using forceps to hold them, I'll have to try that. When I first started using tippet rings I immediately lost half the package in the gravel, never to be seen again...
Thanks for watching. They certainly serve a great purpose in some situations.
Thank you for making it simple
Thanks for watching.
I love ya guy,... thanks man . folks in - Kentucky will get it. So Cool and thanks my friend .
Right on! Thanks for watching, Kelly! Happy you're here.
No need to apologise when teaching the basics. I never knew about tippet rings, I always bought more leaders and tied on extra tippet material when needed.
That's awesome, Adam. Really happy this benefited you! We'll pass the word on to Brian.
Used tippet rings for years & set them up the exact same way you do with the disgorger. I grab them 1st before I open up my safety pin. They never used to sell them on a pin.
Method works great and allows for easier knot tying. Thanks for watching.
Great video. I'm learning alot. Dave down under in NZ.
Thanks so much for watching.
THANK YOU - GREAT Video !!!
Thanks for watching.
Ouw, new tips... thanks sir..
You betcha! Stay tuned.
Great video as always guys. Is there anyway y'all could do an intro to saltwater/inshore fly fishing setups and flys?
Thanks a lot for watching, Cole! We'll talk to the team about it. Shoot an email over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com, that's how we keep track of these requests. I'm sure they'd love to help out one way or another. Stay tuned!
I love tippet rings especially fishing near brush when I have to tear off to avoid walking in the hole it breaks clean at the tippet ring. Simply tie on new tippet with a fly and and keep going. Yes I retrieve my flies and broken tippet after I'm done with the hole if I can wade it.
Thanks for watching.
Great video. Old fisherman's eye sight is a curse.
Thanks for watching.
3 rivers lodge shirt. I met Robin Reeve in marlborough and Edison this past January
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One of our favorite places on the planet.
We have some videos coming that were filmed up there last Summer. Stay tuned.
@@Madriveroutfitters sounds great. I guide for minipi lodges, also in labrador.
I sprinkle my tippet rings on butter, then just run the line straight through them. It also lubricates the line ready for cinching down 😜🤩
That's one heck of a way of doing things there, Glideman. 😆 We'd recommend trying Brian's advice, first!
I have always tied the snap clip to my fly vest. When I need to tie on a tippit ring I tie it to the first ring on the snap clip, then open the snap clip and slip that tippit ring off. Since it's now securely tied to my leader its captive and I don't have to worry about dropping it. I close the snap clip as soon as I get the tippit ring off and let it hang from my vest again.
We wind up losing them that way. Will stick to this method but thanks for sharing.
@@Madriveroutfitters It's hard to hold a tippit ring with pliers in the middle of a river when you're 74 years old!
Ken Never done on the water. Build your leaders at home so you don’t have to.
do you have a video on rio fly clips? haven't really seen anyone talk about them aside from rio themselves
Don't think so. We'll look into doing one though. Might send it over as a Q & A.
So do you recommend the rings when nymphing only? Can’t I just keep adding on tippet to my butt section of my leader when nymph fishing? Why is the ring important and what does it do? Never used a ring before
Brian uses them typically for only nymphing. Towards the end Brian explains that it saves the butt section, so you don't have to keep going back on it. You have a static point where you can attach your leader. If you need a detailed explanation, I'm sure the team at the shop is more than happy to help, shoot them an email: admin@madriveroutfitters.com Thanks for watching!
Here's a better idea than using hemostat on the tippet ring itself: Tie the leader onto tippet ring nearest the snap WHILE IT"S STILL ON THE SNAP!! Then slide the tied up tippet ring up near the snap opening, grab the snap loop with thumb/forefinger (covering all the other rings) open the snap and slide off the tied up ring. Close snap.
He has explained this quite a few times that the diamter he is typically tying onto, the mid section, is too thick to fit through while still on the snap. Thus the reason for this method. Thanks for watching though.
I always try to match the diameter of the tapered leader section to the tippet fairly closely. But with 5x-6x leaders, if I'm breaking off line, I may end up with a leader end that's a bit too fat to go through the ring on the snap. It's rare. When that happens I tie the TIPPET FIRST onto the ring on the snap, then remove the ring from the snap, close the snap, and then thread the leader through the ring and tie that. Then I cut the tippet section off the spool, etc. No dropped rings and no broken lines at the tippet ring from hemostat burrs.
I watch all of your video's, because I too like butter!
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
So for nymph fishing only, and the purpose for cutting the tippet end off of the leader and reattaching with the ring is to save the leader. When you get down to close to the ring, replace the tippet????
Yes, to keep the butt section intact and yes don't let your tippet get too short.
Do they affect the dry fly when you use a tippet rings? And can you use tippet rings when using a dry fly
You can, but most don't recommend it. Lands too heavy on the water for most dry fly presentations.
I'd be worried the clamps would roughen the surface of the ring, especially during the cinching process, and thus make the ring more likely to cut the second knot, the one that's tied on to where the clamps were holding. Does this happen?
Pretty sure he would not show this if that was the case. Would say no but feel free to check with him at the shop. admin@madriveroutfitters.com gets right to him.
missing card: 6:49 love you guys
Thanks for watching.
good video but as a new person to fly fishing, I have a general question I'm not sure you covered. Why even use a tippet ring to begin with? I know it's simple but is it to just prevent having to use a surgeon knot to attach leader to tipped and therefor use up too much leader length in the process. Kind of side question... but do you ever tie flies right to leader or do you always run a length of tipped off a leader first then tie? Love the vids BTW.
Great question to send to Brian over at the shop. He'll be happy to answer. Reach him at admin@madriveroutfitters.com is always best. Thanks.
If you use a surgeon's knot to connect your tippet to your tapered leader, at some point you need to change the tippet. Every time you change the tippet the surgeon's knot consumes a bit of your tapered leader, since the knot uses a bit of both lines. If you use a tippet ring, your tapered leader never shortens. You cut off the tippet on the tippet ring and then tie on a new tippet. No tapered leader consumed in the process.
@@crustybear thanks Crusty. Since writing my question, I've fished every weekend and always use a tippet ring because of what you mentioned. I've been pre-rigging my 3 flies for nymping and works great to just tie the top fly onto that length of tippet coming from the ring. One tie on the winter water vs 2, 3 or 4 knots. And now in the warmer months, I can see snipping off my 4x for nymping at the tippet ring to add some 6x for dry flies. Easy!
Can I use this to attach some sinking tippet line for bass and flounder (fluke) fishing? Just by way of a suggestion why not tie the leader or tippet line onto the rig while it is still on the snap swivel, less chance of losing it.
Please send your questions over to Brian directly at the shop via e-mail or give him a call. He'll be happy to help.
Can you use tippet rings on a sinking leader? And why shouldn’t they be used for streamer fishing?
Yes, you could use them on a sinking leader. Don't need them for a streamer leader really and they do create a bit of a hinge which is why he strays away from it. You can if you want though....not that big of a deal. Hope that helps!
What about just tying two perfection loops and connecting them? A poor man's tippet ring if you will? I tried tippet rings before but for delicate presentations their definitely was noticeable hinging going on. Thanks for the video!
Sure. You can.
So I'm new to this wonderful hobby/sport and appreciate all your help so far. A question I have for you is about changing my Rio TL tippet section. Can I cut the tippet section off and add a Perfection Loop to the leader line and then have a handful up Tippets ready to go with a Perfection loop on them and just connect Loop to Loop or is that nonsense? . I ask this question because I change lures a lot and my tippet gets short quickly. I'm using a 16lb Rio TL. And thought the ring would be to small.
Please send your questions over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will be happy to help there. Thanks.
@@Madriveroutfitters of course, u did say that in the video
A loop to loop connection like you’re suggesting would be pretty bulky and probably lead to tangles… tippet rings are great for lighter leader and tippet as a connection point that is easily adaptable. But for larger stuff like maybe 10-12lb and up you are going to be better off just using something like a double surgeons or blood knot to connect your tippet and leader.
Random question maybe someone can help me out with... When using a tippet ring and split shot, where does the shot go in relation the the ring? I have seen people put the shot right before the ring and I have also seen a knot tied 6" after the ring.
Please send your questions over to the shop via e-mail or phone and they will be happy to help. That's what they do. Thanks.
Hey I'm new to your channel I just subscribe hit the Bell notification are you guys seem like a really good Channel I was hoping to get some advice on what are some of the best summer time flies
Hey Mason, thanks a lot for subscribing! It's funny you ask, we've got some great fly recommendation videos coming out soon. So watch for those. In the mean time, we'd recommend emailing the team at the shop directly, I'm sure they're more than happy to help if you need a quick answer!
@@Madriveroutfitters thank you I sure will
I don’t really understand the need for a metallic ring on a strike/bite indicator line. I have used some a few times, only to watch the indicator sinking slowly and leaving me without any means of knowing when a fish bites.
I understand its use as a faster way to attach tippets, but I can only imagine using it with a big bobber.
Keeps your butt section in-tact so that you aren't cutting into it each time you tie a tippet on. Not even for a faster way to attach tippet. A clinch knot isn't really "faster" than a surgeons knot so that is not a valid reason. These weigh next to nothing and certainly much less than the fly and possible split-shot. If they are sinking your indicator you are using the wrong kind or doing something else wrong. They do not sink indicators of any kind. The cool thing is that you don't have to use them if you don't want to! Thanks.
Brian quick Q..why not just tie the ring at the very end of the tappered leader and then attach same size tippet on the other side of that (without chopping the retying the inital tappered leader)? cheers mate
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian via email and he will be happy to help. Should get right back to you. He monitors the shop e-mail but not the comments here. admin@madriveroutfitters.com
Why use a tippet ring over just tying 6" of tippet to the end of your leader using a tripple surgeons knot? Is it because it gives nymphs more action like I believe you said?
Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop and he'll answer you there. He doesn't monitor the comments here. Thanks.
Line to line tie vs using a tippet ring what do you believe is stronger?
Please send your questions over to the shop directly via e-mail or give them a call and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
sorry for the silly question, but why would you use a tippet ring in the first place?
what are the benefits to using one and why wouldnt you use one with a dry fly?
cheers all!
Thanks for being here. Please send your questions over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will answer you there.
Much better to simply tie the leader to the ring while it's still on the snap clip, then pull it off the clip. You'll need to use the ring closest to the opening of the clip, of course.
Paul B Not true, sorry. Most of the time, the diameter of the mono that we use won’t fit with the snap. That and this method allows for you to tie a much better and more efficient knot. That’s why he showed it this way. 😉
Why not tie your leader onto the tippet ring while it’s still on the snap clip? That way you can’t lose it.
Bitterneman Brian said that for him, it was a pain and too hard to see and thread that way. Clamp down tight with the hemos and you won’t lose. You can if you want though!😃
He also said that the butt sections he’s tying these to are too thick to fit through while still on the clip.
could one leave the tag end long enough to add a second fly to one's line on tippet side? this comes from tippet ring video. I like your videos tony beason stillwater, ok
Tony, that sounds like a question that you should send to Brian directly, or call him. admin@madriveroutfitters.com or 614-451-0363. Thanks
Are these ok to reel in through the eyes of your fly rod?
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly the shop and the folks there will be happy to help. Send them an e-mail or give them a call.
Why use a clinch knot over the orvis knot? I might be missing something, but isn't the orvis knot stronger, especially in small diameters, and faster to tie?
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to the shop via e-mail or give them a call. They are always happy to help/answer.
So this works great but when I’m tying on 6x or 7x onto a tippet ring, using a moistened clinch knot, the line frays. Idk what’s wrong. If I use a 5-4x it’s fine…. Not changing anything in process except line diameter/strength. HELP
Please contact the shop directly and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
This is completely left field, however could you in theory use a tippet ring to attach braided mainline to a fluorocarbon leader in lure fishing. I currently use a double uni knot, however every time I get snagged and broken off I lose a bit more of my braid off the reel retrying the double uni. My theory is that with a tippet ring, if I get snagged and broken off, it will most probably snap the line below the tippet ring, leaving the tippet ring and braid still intact. Just a theory. As long as I don't wind the tippet ring through the tip eye and break the ceramic insert
Send those questions over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will be happy to help there.
The tippet ring will damage the rod's guides.
My grandmother was a nurse, I must have five or six different size hemostats around my house
You're all set!
Can you maybe tie on before removing from the snap 🤔
Shoot Brian an email at the shop and he can help you out, admin@madriveroutfitters.com, thanks for watching!
Great video. One alternative to the hemostat is to leave the ring on the clip until you have it tied either to your leader or your tippet. It beats chasing them around the floor of your boat. Ask me how I know…
As he has stated, very hard to fit the diameters that he is tying to through with the ring on the clip. Thus this method works best for him. Thanks for the input though and thanks for watching.
@@Madriveroutfitters And as I stated, it is an alternative. I have never had a need for a hemostat and am not about to buy one to attach tippet rings. Everyone’s mileage may vary.
@@robinday1179 thanks again for watching.
Why not use a small swivel?
Cormac McCarthy no need for a swivel and usually bigger than these.
I can't see why you can't use them for dry-flies. I've done it for years. No problem......
You can!! He didn't say that you can't.
Same here, and Kelly also say that's not a problem with dryflies...
How far down my leader do I put the ring? Thank you
Please send your questions over to the shop via email or give them a call and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
What is the purpose of a tippit ring. Is it only used to tie a new tippit?
Yes. So that you can add tippet without cutting into the taper of the leader.
Why not leave the tippet rings on the swivel on the packaging? Thread your line though the first ring that would come off the swivel. Tie your cinch knot and trim it with ring still on the swivel. Only then remove the tippet ring from the swivel. Store the package in your leader wallet. No risk of dropping the tip ring this way.
Because the mid material that he ties it to cannot fit through when it’s on the clip. If using very fine diameters….you can do that. Thanks for watching.
Why don't you just tie the tippet ring on to the end of the tapered leader? What's the idea behind trimming it back to the butt section, then tying the ring on?
It goes between the tippet and the tapered section. You tie a fly to the end (tippet). Feel free to call the folks at the shop if any further questions.
Won't the hemostat scar or burr the ring?
You'd have to check with Brian directly on that but surely he would not show the technique if it did? Feel free to call him or e-mail him at the shop though. He's always happy to help.
do you use them for carp? and why not for dry flies?
For my 2 cents worth, the weight of the ring, however small, will affect where the dry fly rides on the water surface. The fly will rely on the entire tippet section floating as inconspicuously as possible and the ring would also be visible. Stealth is the point.
Not necessary for carp and Dean is right below, they will affect the cast and the drift on a dry fly. Not good. Feel free to call Brian at the shop to discuss further if you like. He's always happy to help.
@@deanjensen2174 First, I don't see a 1mm tippet ring affecting the position of a dry fly in the meniscus layer of the water - 18" or further away from that tippet ring. It's not a split shot.
Furthermore, for the same reason (and from the same personal experience) I also don't believe it's going to affect drift more than most of the knots in a knotted leader - or the knot used to tie the tippet to a leader.
Now, if stealth is REALLY the point, then I assume most of the people who actually want to be stealthy are fishing something like Trout Hunter flourocarbon in something like 5.5x or slightly heavier. Doing that to ensure that a tippet sitting in the meniscus layer and very visible to a camera (see the CZcams videos) as well as a trout isn't sitting there, being far more visible than a 1mm tippet ring like those commonly used for dry fly fishing.
But as is often said: this is America, we're all free to follow our muses and/or the voices in our heads.
i wouldn't use pliers on the rings it might leave marks in the metal fraying the line over time
Not pliers....hemostats. They don't damage the rings at all.
I will now
Thanks for being here.
Can I add a dropper to the ring please let me know
Send those questions over to the shop and they will be happy to help you there. Thanks.
Yep
Yep. And you can use a 1mm tippet ring and fish anything but the most tiny tippets and tiny flies to fish dry flies as well.
Maybe those as well, but at my age and my eyesight, along with the Westslope cutties, bull trout, and bows that we fish for around here, I have never had occasion to need something like a 7x tippet and a size 22 dry fly or smaller in order to fool surface feeding fish.
Can I use swivel connections
You can.
Mad River Outfitters thanks
Soooo what is the purpose of a tippet ring....
To be able to easily add tippet without cutting back into the leader/mid sections.
Leader making wallet?
Sure. Give us a call.
Tippet rings are a marketing gimmick by Rio and others to sell you something you really do NOT need if you know how to tie a Uni- Blood knot. They say you need this tippet ring ( at $.50 each) to tie a small diameter line to a large diameter line. But we salt water fishermen have been doing this for years tying a 30+ lbs. bite tippet to a 12 lbs. running line using the Uni-Blood knot ( search You-Tube for instructions).
Simply not true. They are not at all for attaching small to large diameters. Nobody EVER said that, including Brian here. We have been using them since the sixties, long before Rio was invented. Don’t use or buy them if you don’t want to, but don’t make false statements here on our page. Thanks.
You don’t know what you don’t know. I’m one of them.
Thanks for watching.
btw at 2:40 the music abruptly stops. I have to say I was a bit disappointed...I was enjoying the clic glasses and the music.
Sorry about that. We'll try to do better.
@@Madriveroutfitters Oh it was a joke LOL! sorry if it sounded serious!