I 100% agree. I am a Punk fan. They dropped the ball with him. His interview was very honest and I believe they made at least 10 different big mistakes along the way with Punk... He seems to be happy in WWE and even injured is getting them ratings and in Wrestlemania... Punk would be great just on commentary or doing pre and post shows and worth every penny.
I'm not a punk fan but I'm mature enough to recognize the value he has in pro wrestling, he definitely spices things up because he's naturally just a great talker and in wrestling last time I checked you gotta have the mic skills to fill ass's up in seats, I hope he's still able to compete at a high level when he comes back
As much as I would hope so, its not the wrestler that moves the needle its how well the story behind the wrestling is executed that pushes the needle. Otherwise in 2020 AEW would have fully decimated WWE as compared to what they are doing now.
@@javierubinas1117 the problem is when the storytelling becomes so nonsensical that it takes some major event like signing the rivals biggest star to get things back on track. I haven’t watched AEW in a long time, and don’t really have much reason to. It’s a shame because I think the business is better off with more than one major promotion.
@@777Eliyahu got a question for you then, how do you think John Cena would fare if he was signed to All Elite Wrestling. I mean look at Will Ospreay, as much as he is good in the ring, it's confusing to see him because he is a face in a heel faction. I hope either of us have better ideas because the AEW is running wrestlers, a majority of value is diminishing.
@@javierubinas1117 I don’t think they would know how to use him, and if the CM Punk situation is any indication, I bet it would take long for jealous personalities with VP power to screw him over. I would put him in a feud with Luchasaurus, but that’s probably just because I want to see the match. Great thing about Cena is that he could work great matches with literally anyone.
can someone fill me in because i do not understand. what is everyones problem with CM Punk? I know he speaks his mind and speaks out against stuff that he does not like, like how management/other talents are trying to do something, but when he speaks about it, it kinda makes sense and no one really gives a rational explanation on why he is wrong. ie not letting jungleboy destroy a rental car because that will ruin it for future wrestlers trying to get a rental car.
Id say the only people who had working brain cells that were in a creative position were Cody Rhodes and CM Punk. Remember Cody Rhodes tried to put AEW's image to the mainstream when he was on the Go big Show. Im also betting that if AEW put better stories behind the wrestling and promoted their wrestlers to other mediums and shows, maybe they would have viewers beyond one million by now.
CM Punk is the only person to impact the ratings, and I’m not a fan of him either. The only other person that’s have a bigger response would be Brock Lesnar, but CM brought that 10 year return whereas Brock is just a legitimate bad ass.
You’re right and don’t let the fangirls tell you you’re not. Their ratings and attendance have consistently only went down over the last few months. And it’s Khan’s fault. He’s a bad booker. Period.
@@adamlee9461 I think recognition comes with good business. The issue for Joe is that by the time he got to WWE, he was injury prone. Him and Punk both have very rough styles, and now we see the toll on the body. Even AJ Styles has been a bit injury prone, but he’s looking roided to the gills right now.
uh this is wrong. when brian danielson and adam cole came over they had a bump in numbers. yea it didnt stay but thats a bump. also durning this last sting run numbers grew. once again thats numbers and take a look, numbers went down after his last match. you can make all the excuses but that makes the statement wrong. is AEW great? no. is it good? no but it is a 2nd company that does work somewhat and we need a second company. no one is saying you have to like them or you cant dislike them but to make false statements sounds like copium. dont be that guy or as i like to say "a cowboys fan in another jersey". if you dont know how bad cowboy fans are then im happy for you cause they make flat earthers look sane.
Sometimes, AEW feels like the drown in cope man. They just keep drawing and drawing wrestlers, saying that this time its a big deal, just to end up not using them and throwing them on a random stable. And i probably would sound like an absolute hater, but i also dont get how can they say "nah we don't do this for the dumb entertainment, here we WRESTLE and we have the best wrestling, unlike WWE we dont need promos" when they have injuries and major botches on a weekly basis. Tony is acting like a child and the only thing that keeps AEW alive is his daddys money, because i swear to god that guy doesn't know shit on how to do his job.
Nope , you don’t get to say that . When punk was in aew most wwe fans were saying he’s overrated , done , not a draw and not a needle mover . Not a needle mover also what reigns called him when asked about punk in aew .
He said he “wasn’t a needle mover like the Rock” to be more specific. He’s comparing him to the results of the Rock. He also led AEW in merch sales up to and including the period following his firing. While it’s probably true that no one short of Rock/Austin/Taker/etc could spike AEW’s numbers noticeably, it’s also dishonest for people to pretend that CM Punk (the guy with the most viewed video/return/interview/etc for 2 different companies) doesn’t draw eyeballs and attention. It’s just delusional. It was delusional when WWE fans coped about it just like it’s delusional now when AEW fans cope about it.
Punk needle mover collision viewership when he was there 400-500k half full arenas and if they did sell out it was because tickets were $10 his debut was q.4m then went down to 900k and after he was always at top of the hour or start of the shiw so there would be a bump in ratings so theres no proof in aew he was a draw also mjf had better ratings than him punk biggest increase was in merch and attendance was already food before he got there people wont say these facts
You made a good point. You don’t have to be a fan to see someone as a draw. I hated Hulk Hogan, but I realized if I was going to see the wrestling I enjoyed regularly, he facilitated a lot of that. Wrestling is a business in the end, not cosplay. And it’s typical rich kid stuff to fire your top draw to appease a group of guys who collectively are just expenses on your bottom line and don’t generate much income. Wrestling is a business and firing CM Punk as a product was horrible business for AEW, just like firing Hulk Hogan even in 1995 from WCW when he was being booed in some places would have been awful business. Wrestling is garbage right now because everyone’s playing favourites on all sides and not pushing people fans actually want to see. How long has WWE been pushing Roman Reigns? Before that it was Batista. Neither guy was over like Daniel Bryan at one time. Nobody is watching weekly wrestling anymore. Love or hate him, people are talking about CM Punk. That’s good business. AEW is a playground and WWE made a good business decision. Yeah, maybe don’t smash the window of a rental car and cost your boss money, Jack Perry.
I agree punk is a needle mover, but all of the movement is when he comes back from extended periods of absence (quitting,injuries exc) not when he is there weekly
I 100% agree. I am a Punk fan. They dropped the ball with him. His interview was very honest and I believe they made at least 10 different big mistakes along the way with Punk... He seems to be happy in WWE and even injured is getting them ratings and in Wrestlemania...
Punk would be great just on commentary or doing pre and post shows and worth every penny.
I'm not a punk fan but I'm mature enough to recognize the value he has in pro wrestling, he definitely spices things up because he's naturally just a great talker and in wrestling last time I checked you gotta have the mic skills to fill ass's up in seats, I hope he's still able to compete at a high level when he comes back
he gets no ratings
Punk vs MJF willl be fun in WWE at some point
Speaking fucking facts. AEW died the second that Punk left
NO favts at all punk did shit washed up has been who doesnt draw
The only thing that could save AEW now is if John Cena signed with them
As much as I would hope so, its not the wrestler that moves the needle its how well the story behind the wrestling is executed that pushes the needle. Otherwise in 2020 AEW would have fully decimated WWE as compared to what they are doing now.
@@javierubinas1117 the problem is when the storytelling becomes so nonsensical that it takes some major event like signing the rivals biggest star to get things back on track. I haven’t watched AEW in a long time, and don’t really have much reason to. It’s a shame because I think the business is better off with more than one major promotion.
@@777Eliyahu got a question for you then, how do you think John Cena would fare if he was signed to All Elite Wrestling. I mean look at Will Ospreay, as much as he is good in the ring, it's confusing to see him because he is a face in a heel faction. I hope either of us have better ideas because the AEW is running wrestlers, a majority of value is diminishing.
@@javierubinas1117 I don’t think they would know how to use him, and if the CM Punk situation is any indication, I bet it would take long for jealous personalities with VP power to screw him over. I would put him in a feud with Luchasaurus, but that’s probably just because I want to see the match. Great thing about Cena is that he could work great matches with literally anyone.
Maybe but he would never sign with them
can someone fill me in because i do not understand. what is everyones problem with CM Punk? I know he speaks his mind and speaks out against stuff that he does not like, like how management/other talents are trying to do something, but when he speaks about it, it kinda makes sense and no one really gives a rational explanation on why he is wrong. ie not letting jungleboy destroy a rental car because that will ruin it for future wrestlers trying to get a rental car.
Id say the only people who had working brain cells that were in a creative position were Cody Rhodes and CM Punk. Remember Cody Rhodes tried to put AEW's image to the mainstream when he was on the Go big Show. Im also betting that if AEW put better stories behind the wrestling and promoted their wrestlers to other mediums and shows, maybe they would have viewers beyond one million by now.
What happened I thought AEW acquired all these "main event talents" thought wwe didn't use properly like Plumber Moxley 🤓🤓
Just a bunch of overpaid mid carders
Or junkyard Eddie Kingston.
CM Punk is the only person to impact the ratings, and I’m not a fan of him either. The only other person that’s have a bigger response would be Brock Lesnar, but CM brought that 10 year return whereas Brock is just a legitimate bad ass.
You’re right and don’t let the fangirls tell you you’re not. Their ratings and attendance have consistently only went down over the last few months. And it’s Khan’s fault. He’s a bad booker. Period.
Samoa joe being the AEW champ Is as good as its gonna get
That was the sign that this would never surpass TNA.
@@BumpyHumpyDumpy TNA in 2009 - 2010 also had higher ratings than ANY AEW SHOW IN HISTORY!!! 😬😬😬
@@BumpyHumpyDumpy yea after 3 mox reigns it became that with a bigger budget still awesome to see Samoa joe get his recognition
@@adamlee9461 I think recognition comes with good business. The issue for Joe is that by the time he got to WWE, he was injury prone. Him and Punk both have very rough styles, and now we see the toll on the body.
Even AJ Styles has been a bit injury prone, but he’s looking roided to the gills right now.
@@BumpyHumpyDumpy yea it it was just a decade earlier
uh this is wrong. when brian danielson and adam cole came over they had a bump in numbers. yea it didnt stay but thats a bump. also durning this last sting run numbers grew. once again thats numbers and take a look, numbers went down after his last match. you can make all the excuses but that makes the statement wrong. is AEW great? no. is it good? no but it is a 2nd company that does work somewhat and we need a second company. no one is saying you have to like them or you cant dislike them but to make false statements sounds like copium. dont be that guy or as i like to say "a cowboys fan in another jersey". if you dont know how bad cowboy fans are then im happy for you cause they make flat earthers look sane.
agreed
Sometimes, AEW feels like the drown in cope man.
They just keep drawing and drawing wrestlers, saying that this time its a big deal, just to end up not using them and throwing them on a random stable. And i probably would sound like an absolute hater, but i also dont get how can they say "nah we don't do this for the dumb entertainment, here we WRESTLE and we have the best wrestling, unlike WWE we dont need promos" when they have injuries and major botches on a weekly basis.
Tony is acting like a child and the only thing that keeps AEW alive is his daddys money, because i swear to god that guy doesn't know shit on how to do his job.
At first it was jericho then cm punk
Now they are trying with edge or sasha but it wont go well with such management!
Nope , you don’t get to say that . When punk was in aew most wwe fans were saying he’s overrated , done , not a draw and not a needle mover . Not a needle mover also what reigns called him when asked about punk in aew .
He said he “wasn’t a needle mover like the Rock” to be more specific. He’s comparing him to the results of the Rock. He also led AEW in merch sales up to and including the period following his firing. While it’s probably true that no one short of Rock/Austin/Taker/etc could spike AEW’s numbers noticeably, it’s also dishonest for people to pretend that CM Punk (the guy with the most viewed video/return/interview/etc for 2 different companies) doesn’t draw eyeballs and attention. It’s just delusional. It was delusional when WWE fans coped about it just like it’s delusional now when AEW fans cope about it.
why wwe fans are pathetic now hews back with them they love him right and hes done nothing since hes a cry baby bitch all he is all he ever will be
Punk needle mover collision viewership when he was there 400-500k half full arenas and if they did sell out it was because tickets were $10 his debut was q.4m then went down to 900k and after he was always at top of the hour or start of the shiw so there would be a bump in ratings so theres no proof in aew he was a draw also mjf had better ratings than him punk biggest increase was in merch and attendance was already food before he got there people wont say these facts
Nah, you're actually trolling or have the IQ of a legitimate potato.
You made a good point. You don’t have to be a fan to see someone as a draw. I hated Hulk Hogan, but I realized if I was going to see the wrestling I enjoyed regularly, he facilitated a lot of that. Wrestling is a business in the end, not cosplay. And it’s typical rich kid stuff to fire your top draw to appease a group of guys who collectively are just expenses on your bottom line and don’t generate much income. Wrestling is a business and firing CM Punk as a product was horrible business for AEW, just like firing Hulk Hogan even in 1995 from WCW when he was being booed in some places would have been awful business. Wrestling is garbage right now because everyone’s playing favourites on all sides and not pushing people fans actually want to see. How long has WWE been pushing Roman Reigns? Before that it was Batista. Neither guy was over like Daniel Bryan at one time. Nobody is watching weekly wrestling anymore. Love or hate him, people are talking about CM Punk. That’s good business. AEW is a playground and WWE made a good business decision. Yeah, maybe don’t smash the window of a rental car and cost your boss money, Jack Perry.
Cm punk never drew a dime ever
Everything you said is true
false all the way
@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780 except it's the opposite of what you just said
@@sludgemouf780 no its not
@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780 I wasn't asking a question... I was explaining the nature of reality to you.
@@sludgemouf780 you need a reality check then stop talking nonsense
I agree punk is a needle mover, but all of the movement is when he comes back from extended periods of absence (quitting,injuries exc) not when he is there weekly
Punk punk punk sick of hearing about him
exactly