Starmer's buying gaffs for 80k, Shell LOVE money and the king is opening an OnlyFans | Pubcast #1
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- On the first episode of the PoliticsJOE Pubcast, we look back on PMQs where Keir Starmer was adamant that average house deposits in the UK are £9,000, we rip into the big energy companies and how they're somehow still allowed to post record profits in a cost of living crisis, and a look ahead to the bootlicking bonanza of the coronation.
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I prefer podcasts where the producers get the facts right before turning the cameras on.
FYI, Starmer said "Additonal" £9k for a deposit, not a total of £9k.
What kind of pishy beer are you guys drinking?! 😂
and miss the totally professional gestures at 28:30?
I really like this team.
Really good merger of personalities, under a well constructive brand. Subtly subversive. Great voice
How much are you paid?
The other day James Cleverly was telling everyone how privileged they should feel because the King is allowing them to swear allegiance to him.
Ironic James cleverly certainly dosnt live up to his surnames meaning in any way. 😂😂
I always swear at the 'king tampon
I thought Cleverly said swearing allegiance is a personal choice.
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It was supposed to be an extra £9,000 on top of what was needed before Trussonomics.
Starmer may have misspoken - but he's not an idiot - he knows how much an average house costs. Does Sunak?
no he is not an idiot; but he is a INFILTRATOR and RADICAL RIGHT WING NEOLIBERAL who LIED AND LIED AND LIED to STEAL POWER
#TakeBackLabour #KeirStarmerOut
How much mis-speaking can we forgive him for ? He should be able to clarify details of promises he knows he can keep.
@Nick Laurenson, that sounds like Labour's next poster campaign.
"Doe you know how much deposit is required to buy a house? Rishi Sunak doesn't."
he did not miss speak he said it clearly at PMQ's when he introduced the topic. JOE missunderstood it
I thought he did say they needto save £9k more, at least that how I understood it.
Amazing that Shell and supermarkets are making massive profits but inflation is blamed on pay increases.
They even try & equate public sector pay rises with inflation. The connection has been debunked by nearly every economist.
"King Charles should open an OnlyFans account" Gold, I cracked up, Genius!!
Loving this format where you all speak freely
What them sausage fingers do Charles
I was asked to pay 12 months rent upfront in Greater Manchester. Love, if I could afford 12 months rent in one I WOULDN’T BE RENTING!
"You know you are on camera" was a classic moment!
Loving this first episode of the podcast guys, keep up the great work :)
This is what happened to my wife and I. We moved to St. Helens so we could buy a home. We are lucky, we love it here, the people are great. But, I didn't wish to move north. I had a unique job making high end leather goods that I still miss.
Could you start your own business making high end leather goods? Are the start up costs affordable?
Shame to waste all that time arguing the deposit amount due to Keef’s mistake of missing a word - without realising it ? £9k MORE , MORE, MORE !!
Starmer never talks about council housing and he should
My grandson has saved for a decade, he’s 27 this year, still lives with mummy and the houses go up in price faster than he can save. Houses are for the rich. Barb
These are great guys! I wish these were the conversations in pubs. Unfortunately few people have intelligent informed conversations like these in our country any longer 😕
The only place you Are likely to witness the lack on vocabulary would be a grade three pud after 4 hours of a free booze lock in. The exelent points raised were NOT improved by your expletives lads. Shape up. It's the arguement that carries the weight. Not the Anglo Saxon word for copulation!.
The 9k figure is from a recent report that concluded that new deposits will need an additional £9,000 - He just didn't quote it properly.
You missed an important word. Starter said 9k more, not 9k overall
Listening to this I thought exactly what you've pointed out but thought I must have got it wrong. Come on @PoliticsJOE keep up!
That’s the way I believed it was £9k more on a house deposit for first time buyers since liz truss and the tories tanked the economy and mortgage market last year
Not true, what starmer said word for word was.....
"The average deposit for a first time buyer is going up to £9,000"
No, he said multiple times that deposits were going UP TO 9,000. He may have meant an additional 9,000, but its not what he said
@@jackw128 I sit corrected - just rewatched and you're absolutely right. Must of applied my "what he meant to say" filter - ooops!
Really enjoyed the first ep, good balance of opinions Excited to see where the podcast goes.
Great first podcast can't wait for more love you guys
Yeah ok this is just the vibe I need in a pubcast. And holy fuck is it refreshing to not be subjected to ten minutes of pre- and postamble lol. You just going "yeah we're done now cya bye" felt like a breath of fresh air.
Nice one!
Good point at the end of the podcast, about the option of opting out of contributing to the royals - there is actually a (similar) precedent for this mechanism; in Denmark a 1% Church Tax is added to the taxes on your payslip, which you can simply opt out of .
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Awesome. Really enjoyed this and the three of you are great together. Look forward to watching this on the regular.
This was good but I need more. Is this gonna be weekly because 35 mins is not enough for me?
Starmer said it was “an ADDITIONAL £9,000”
No. He. Didn't. If you listen to the debate, he gaffed by saying it was UP TO £9k.
@@easytoassemble54321 yes initially he did mess up. He did get it right eventually by the 5th question: "their youngest still stuck in the spare room because they need an extra £9,000 for a deposit."
@@easytoassemble54321 I watched PMQs and he did say "an ADDITIONAL 9000". I know what I heard.
@@easytoassemble54321 the context was clear, even when he misspoke slightly. But to have these “journalists” pretend they don’t know that is so farcical it wouldn’t be out of place coming from OJ or Dan hodges.
They used to be good, incisive and able to grasp the common view. It’s a shame they’ve gone full crank
@@easytoassemble54321 Bro you’re literally lying. There’s no excuse for any of the bs you’re saying, you’re twisting words just to suit your narrative. Least hypocritical Corbyn supporter
This podcast was fab! Really enjoyed it - informative but also gave me a good laugh - you three are excellent together! Can’t wait for more
Well done PoJoe, great first ep, had me laughing and crying in equal measure! 😂 Thanks.
Many jobs have been lost in cities. When i was young we had civil service jobs, masses of jobs in the aero industry, in chemicals, in pharmaceticals, fishing, the docks . This is a Northern city which has lost lots and lots of well paid work.
Rents need capping.
Love this format and the discussion, however I dearly want to see an episode of this where you are all drilling the pints 🍻 cheers
In my home town in the North East, Morrisons and Tesco are most certainly profiteering from shoppers. This makes my bodily fluids boil!
Loving the 1st topic. Like the lady said, my family started in zone 2 of Vicky Park of London and now we're on the border of Essex.
And also no one wants to move halfway across the country to own a home. And what happens is that those people who live in the areas that people want to move to, now can't afford to even live there. So it's a vicious cycle.
I grew up in Belper - small town in Derbyshire - house prices are astronomical
The awful prices aren't just limited to London. I am from Aberdeen, our first 2bed flat was 22K deposit in 2014, which we moved into with friends to be able to afford the mortgage. God knows how bad it is nowadays.
Make universal credit equal to the average MP's pay. At the moment its less than there days pay per month..
It’s strange how keir starmer isn’t even in office and yet we’re scrutinising him on levels we’re not even doing to the current PM in office right now, actually making decisions that affect people today.
Good to scrutinise him so we're clear on the alternative. Bustard in blue or bustard in blue. There's yer choice. I'd still risk Starmer though don't need to vote for either in Scotland so won't be. Yaass!!!
I mean it's heavily implied that the tories suck - Joe is clearly left leaning. So it's perfectly fine to scrutinise what the alternative is.
And it makes me chuckle when people say this - often the same people who totally lost their minds when Corbyn was leader, who got 10 times more scrutiny!
👍. Already have it bookmarked ready for my listening schedule.
Ava’s subscription idea is genius 😂
Such a brilliant podcast, loved every second of it - team worked superbly! Excited for the next episode.
Awsome first pubcast!
Novara says £9k was the increase, not the amount needed for a deposit
Anticipating a crossover with the deprogram podcast
that intro hahaha
I was born in Epsom and raised in Merton (Morden, SM4)....my parents didn't buy our council house when they moved in 1987/88...they could have had it for £40k-ish in 1994/5...now it's easily £500k+...and yet nothing really had changed dramatically around the area. I now live in Banbury Oxon where we (partner and child) own a bungalow with a huge garden @£956 pm mortgage but I've econnomically 'ended up here' after living in Oxford when I was at uni. I do not miss South London one bit and I'd be a damm sight more depressed if I could just about afford to survive there let alone thrive there.
Brilliant. Going straight to watch #2.
One of the best things Blair and his government did was sure start.
With 13 years in power, this says a lot about how impotent new labour was, and helps to explain why we have had tory rule ever since.
You'll get much better pints than that away from London too 😉. And they won't cost £15.
This was great! Adding you to my feed
What Starmer meant was that since the Truss budget 1st time buyers, on average, now have to find an ADDITIONAL 9 grand. He failed to nail the point unfortunately.
The frustrating thing was that the solution was the post world war 2, prefab homes, and government supply land. Moreover, there needs to be a look at land and house banking, where alot of properties are laying empty. On top of this, there needs to be taxation of 2nd homes etc. The question is do labour have the abilities to be radical in their housing policies?
I'd say that not only graduates have the need to buy a property.
Starmer was refering to the additional amount required for first time buyers, not the total an additional 9k required because of the Truss Budget Disaster, 9k on top of the amount previously required for a deposit (before Truss)
Great discussion. On deposits for rent, if you’re on benefits you’re generally expected to pay 6 months up front. Some places don’t accept benefits claimants at all so you will probably be told you’re lucky to get anywhere at all. Where I live that means a deposit of several thousand Pounds.
Yes, it’s shocking & when I relocated from Kent to Norfolk in 2012 to be near family had to pay 6 months in advance & a deposit. The kicker was it was an ex-council flat at £525 a month (lot more now, rents have rocketed) & exact same one opposite me (in better condition) was £325😮😭 Thankfully, I got on the council waiting list & offered a place in 2016
Look at Cornwall for housing you can’t get a house for £90k. In my village you can’t get a house for less than £350k
I’m invested after the first four words
This was perfect. 10/10 no notes
Starmer said the average deposit had INCREASED BY £9k
Didn't starmer say it was an EXTRA 9K that first time buyers would need thanks to Truss n Kwarteng.
I put down 9k for my deposit and it was a shared ownership agreement on a one bed flat. That was 15%
Great first show. Although I think you gave the coronation an easy time - although I like the subscription model of Monarchy
The problem goes a lot deeper than simply making a house just affordable enough that you can pay a deposit. Firstly, because the 5 x salary rule means low earners have to save more to get a deposit. And secondly, because you're still faced with the spectre of paying off a debt burden for decades, without the job security or pension security of years past. Add to that, the shrinking headroom of a profit on investment, and the best you can hope for is hopefully owning that home to live in in old age. The old days of profiting off your houses are gone, and yet people are still asking to become mortgage slaves. We need a new system.
Damn I got lucky. I quite like rural Wales and earn enough from painting portraits and doing the odd bit of accounts to buy a house. There’s bugger all here though and it’s an hour round trip to the gallery I work with but for a guy who used to sleep under an old piano on the floor that’s pretty good.
Don't know where you think all these cheap houses in villages are- all holiday lets and second homes round here, and many other areas too.
A minute in and straight to the politics, I miss the old pubcast before the war
We have such little new big infrastructure because 1. there’s such massive backlash towards its 2. We don’t have massive organised unit to build big project in Uk like a HS3/4, Irish Sea Bridge, Crystal Palace etc. and 3. The expense is so high especially with minimal investment 4. Policy isn’t pushed to change any this
Great job guys
According To Novara it was a study which said the avarage deposit has gone UP by 9k. So yeah low balled it amazingly badly!
Same up in Scotland (which also exists). Glasgow and Edinburgh are extremely expensive. A nice 1 bedroom flat in somewhere like Shawlands in Glasgow is going for £150K.
I don't understand how does London continue to work? How do people in retail, hospitality, cleaners afford to live anywhere near?
Like it. Keep up the good work kids.
If there were sensible rental regulation and mass social housing builds, people wouldn't need to buy property.
Ava, he said 9k more!!! 😂
"The average deposit for a first time buyer is going up to £9,000"
Maybe he said it both ways at different times ? Some mishtake surely
it was in the context of increased cost due to Interest rates going up post Trust. Because he mentioned how many more years. So he was talking about on top.
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Yep, seems that way. if that direct quote is correct then it was an error in his language, as in the context of what he was saying, as he was talking about Truss making things worse and how the party and Sunak is a continuation of that.
No, he did not!
At least once he did explain that it was an extra 9 grand, not total. I don’t know if he misspoke another time but it’s all there in the pmqs recording.
Either way this is still a good video.
Edit: it’s at 8:35
Don't know if someone's pointed this out before, but when Labour brought in Newtowns in the 1950's, they had a Newtown Authority that rented properties in the town out to individuals and businesses. This profit went to the Authority so that it could develope the infrastructure you were talking about, libraries, council offices, NHS hubs.
This was all taken away very rapidly as soon as Thatcher got into power. So you'll see older Newtowns with infrastructure but the later ones from the 70's without much. 😊
Enjoyed that.
Can you do these live please? Would love to come down! Maybe you can do 15mins of QA at the end...
Brilliant first episode. I would have loved to have lived in London but just could not afford it, even Exeter and Bristol are out of reach now. I just wish politicians would address second homes and buy to lets, no one is talking about it.
,, just to point out that people over 40 have kids in uni' so very much give a shit about how economics effects young people and are also living with debt accrued while studying themselves. ..
... and supporting kids ...
Starmer's shite, Labour is dead, from a former card carrying member
Might be the lighting, but those pints look weak, almost like coloured water or apple juice.
Come on get a proper pint in there for the next one!
@PepsiMan It could be, but even then, it looks weak for a cider.
It could just be the lighting though
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Thank you for leaving in 28:25
Great fucking start….. looking forward to this. Cheers troops
My mate had to pay 8 grand for 6 months upfront rent. It's fucking ridiculous
We are thick. And unbelievably greedy and individualistic.
Even if a labour government gets in, after 4-8 years, the swing voting public will switch from red to blue at the drop of a hat, for the promise of tax cuts. And the whole cycle of services being drained dry will begin anew.
love podcasts hate nonsense welcome to the politics Joe Pub cast
Ava - 28 mins in
Good girl! 😂🎉
The problem is if people are able to move to areas where the properties are cheaper then the prices will just go up. A lot of people moved from centre London in the 1980's to places outside London but where they could still easily commute back into London for their better payed jobs. And they sold properties in London which meant they now had big deposits, equity which they could then use to put towards buying a bigger property or even buy outright. But this just increased the housing prices in those areas. It was only after John major buggered the economy & put us in a terrible recession in the 1990's that house prices came down a lot for a while. My sim only deal went up just over 17% this month, they basically said UK RPI inflation was just over 13% & they are adding an extra 3.9% on top of that, and this will continue to go up every May by 3.9% plus whatever the RPI rate is
With all respect to Keir Starmer, he STILL comes across as a 'Tory Lite'. Give me Jeremy Corbyn!
Corbyn finished the white working class sorted him out,
Absolutely, Corbyn was one of the few politicians that understood people. The press hated him unfortunately and did everything to stop him from getting a good reputation.
Get JC get another crushing defeat that defeats all the vulnerable, workers, refugees et al. You sure you want that?
You can have Jeremy Corbyn. Good luck getting elected with him in charge. The right wing press did a huge hatchet job on him and it was incredibly successful.
@CarlosAK47 vote green???
Great podcast, though I’d love to know what houses you can buy in Oxfordshire for £85,000!
13:20 💯 interest should be non existent on student loans
I wish it was a £9K deposit for a place, I was hoping so hard
it is for half of them up north, 5% deposit for first buy.
Energy and food companies should be regulated about how much they charge for services and goods. They should be windfall taxed retrospectively for the rip off that they have done in the last two years and the regulated so they CANNOT repeat the same robbery again.
Didn't he say an 'additional 9k'. Additionally at this very moment in time, there are 661 properties for sale in Liverpool for 90k or less, 93 in Manchester, and 181 in Birmingham.
Best podcast ever
Nice one - stop being so mean to Ed though!
Its not just the cities guys... even living in a town or village costs £170k minimum in kent..
“No king but Jesus” got me fucking good, I’ve got to say. As a staunch republican, it stoked a little ember.
St. pointed out that deposits were £9,000 MORE now than before Truss et al. So four years longer than before needed to get the deposit. No suggestion that they were only £9k. I couldn't actually be in the same room as any of that mob, not even a room as big as West. Abbey. I'd be insulted if they offered me an honour. Who do they think they are, deciding who has done something of value? Though mainly I wouldn't want to be looked down upon as a corrupt establishment crony by other UK residents. Fancy what thoughts would go through people's heads if you were a 'Sir'/Dame or 'Milord/lady'. I know what I think when a peer or knight pops up on my screen or is mentioned in the news.
I sometimes wonder what would have happened if the Labour Party had elected David rather than Ed Milliband. I think they fucked up
Labour's mistake in 2010 was its feeble effort to agree a working relationship in parliament with the Lib-Dems. Instead they only talked for a few hours and gave up. So the Lib-Dems went to the Tories and that kicked off 13 years of austerity (not to mention brexit and Clegg's broken promise on tuition fees which virtually wiped the Lib-Dems out - topical!)
I understood that Starmer was saying the £9k was the average EXTRA needed for a deposit since Truss crashed the mortgage market, not that £9k was the average deposit now.
What about the people who have no chance whatsoever of ever dreaming of ever owning a home even going to University. Thought I understood what this channel was about. Sounds to me on this one that's it all about struggling professionals.
Yup. Good. More please
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Kier didn't lowball, he was saying EXTRA not total deposit.