Civic owner here- So what happened was the CVT didn't actually overheated but instead I failed to open the valve on the exhaust on the second run which causes the exhaust to throw smoke when I reopened it and we thought something was wrong with the turbo seal or was running lean, that's why we didn't do anymore runs, also I keep seeing people saying that the cvt won't last the cvt is trash, but I've done TONS of race's with this car literally tons and surprising even for me the transmission is holding up well, also another thing alot of people don't know is that this is the civic touring sedan and it has the SI motor with stronger internals, the civic hatchbacks have weaker internals than the sedan touring which is very weird but it's true, you can check civicx for more info on it. So maybe that's why mines still holding up, oh one last thing depending on how you play with the throttle the cvt can be faster or slower. You need to play with it enough to figure it out. And the car keeps surprising me too. Anyway that's all for now, if you wanna know more just hit me up on IG. ✌
I've heard about this touring sedan having stronger internals but I doubt it before but I guess it's true since most of the cvt that blown are hatchbacks...as to why honda would do this puzzles me
Great car, man. I believe that I heard that you have a 27Won turbo. That true? Also, what other mods (other than the tune)? Anyway, anyone who claims that the Civic's CVT is trash is a clown who lacks knowledge. They're holding on to the outdated notion that CVTs are bad. Nissan had terrible CVTs (and may still). However, Honda and Toyota make some of the world's most reliable cars, and they have been using quality CVTs for quite some time.
@@josevince2424 I did hear that - at least in reference to the rods. However, sounds like OP is stating that there may be more components that are weaker in the hatch. If you don't want to mod heavily, I wouldn't be concerned. However, if you do, maybe consider a coupe or sedan.
What's the secret on the throttle thing to make it faster bro?I have a civic too but hatchback and never heard of the weaker internals thing, glad u put that out there
I want to see some Honda Accord 2.0 tuned races! Getting ready to tune mine so would like to see what that will be like up against other cars like this.
That Civic is impressive. However the sound of a CVT at full throttle is never good imo. This one is amplified even more, thanks to the exhaust. I think this Civic vs the Sonata N-Line or K5 GT would be very interesting. Thanks Sam.
Well it isn’t drastic but I did FBO Ford Focus sedan. You can check on my page. Those things move fbo. If you get good work done it’s good. Those accords move.
WTF The civic trap 172km 😲😲😲 and it seem like it hit the redline too which cuts power a bit, so that means it can trap even higher with a good run, Damn impressive for that little tiny 1.5
Cvt puts the engine directly at its revs that produce peak power and keeps it there. All other transmissions are going through a range of rpm and only hits peak power in a small part of that range.
@@rigoeats3654 Its not about the power it gets from a small engine I'm just saying if there was a series than start from the bottom and do drag races all the way up knocking out the current weeks champ as you move up in hp. Not just do a series with a civic.
Great video like always but isn't this an unfair comparison 😅. 1.5 is tuned vs non tuned. The 2.0 10 speed is pretty damn quick. I would love to see this 1.5 come back vs a tuned 2.0 10 speed. That would be an awesome race
The cvt is quicker than a 10 speed because it has no gears but its limited to how much torque you can put on it. This tranny may not last long unfortunately.
It’s times like this where people realize how underweight the accord is for an midsized family sedan. It weighs hardly 200 pounds more than a civic a compact sedan and the civic sport weighs as much as an VW GLI. It’s ridiculous how under weight it is. Which ofc helps its performance
People don't realize that regardless of the civic being a cvt.... any car with an automatic tranny will blow up sooner or later with twice the power going through it.
As much as people may hate CVT. It is here to stay. The only downside of cvt in a proper drag race is the sluggish start, but as I tested in beamng drive, cvt yields better mid high speed acceleration and ended up with higher speed in a quarter mile. Fun and fuel economy can still stand together as Honda proved, but as long as you want fuel economy, you need to make some sacrifices.
300 hp is right at the limit of what most tuners recommend with the CVT, so he’s basically maxed out the potential. His tune seems to keep it safe for launching and you can tell from how slow it is off the line. As long as he doesn’t push the power further, the CVT will hold up.
Wow that Civic Touring is putting down Type R numbers, impressive for sure but it has to be straining that CVT. Eventually that thing is going to blow.
It's not a fair race at all. The tune civic 1.5t has more horsepower and lighter. Power to weight? Let them race both cars with the same upgrades and mods!!!
The CVT models can only be tuned to a certain point before it can't handle anymore power. The manual transmission is a much better platform to use a tune with
If you have a turbocharged vehicle and you've been getting on it never turn it off right away at least let it idle for a couple minutes pop your hood if possible lol... Or drive it easy for the last couple minutes before your destination 💯👍👍
Alll those variables effect the 0-60 times of the car though. Especially slope, temperature and sea level. You get horrible numbers especially in a turbo at altitude.
CVT's just arent strong enough to handle anything above 230 lb ft consistently IMO. They are a much cheaper solution and give great mpg. For anyone that likes to drive enthusiastically the CVT is useless and for anyone that likes performance mods..... fuggedaboutit
Excuse my ignorance, but is this basically a modified Civic vs a stock Accord? Not sure what this justifies... It's one thing to compare both stock models, but then I suppose the Accord would win too easily? I feel like the Accord should have been slightly modified as well since it was clearly heavier and less HP, you could probably see the result coming right from the opening specs.
Up next flash tune the Accord 2.0T because this one was stock I seen plenty videos of that stock accord which I liked 👍 great videos keep up the great work
How much did it cost to get 300 BHP out of the 1.5 liter? Also factor in the cost of a new CVT, because that one is going to be slipping within a couple years if driven hard with that much increased torque.
@@Eric-vh5by i think the car is not consistent not dragy The cars usually are affected by many factors like road surface conditions , outside temperature and type of tyers and other factors as well so it is imposible to get same results in diffrent conditions👍🏻
This video really points out to me how much I appreciate a good automatic . I know that cvts are efficient but are not for me . Very quick civic by the way .
Nice race like always, hey Sam i would like to see the BMW M235i with the G70 i know that BMW doesn't have the horse power like the G70 but that BMW feel so fast my brother just bought and feel fast i think will be a good race 👍
Thanks for another awesome race SAM I think that CIVIC is going to take it unless the ACCORD is also Tuned.L15B7 is on a totally different game with a upgraded TURBO even though it's a CVT
Civic owner here- So what happened was the CVT didn't actually overheated but instead I failed to open the valve on the exhaust on the second run which causes the exhaust to throw smoke when I reopened it and we thought something was wrong with the turbo seal or was running lean, that's why we didn't do anymore runs, also I keep seeing people saying that the cvt won't last the cvt is trash, but I've done TONS of race's with this car literally tons and surprising even for me the transmission is holding up well, also another thing alot of people don't know is that this is the civic touring sedan and it has the SI motor with stronger internals, the civic hatchbacks have weaker internals than the sedan touring which is very weird but it's true, you can check civicx for more info on it. So maybe that's why mines still holding up, oh one last thing depending on how you play with the throttle the cvt can be faster or slower. You need to play with it enough to figure it out. And the car keeps surprising me too. Anyway that's all for now, if you wanna know more just hit me up on IG. ✌
I've heard about this touring sedan having stronger internals but I doubt it before but I guess it's true since most of the cvt that blown are hatchbacks...as to why honda would do this puzzles me
Really? And I was looking to get the same set up as yours but now everything changes since I have a hatchback 🥺
Great car, man. I believe that I heard that you have a 27Won turbo. That true? Also, what other mods (other than the tune)? Anyway, anyone who claims that the Civic's CVT is trash is a clown who lacks knowledge. They're holding on to the outdated notion that CVTs are bad. Nissan had terrible CVTs (and may still). However, Honda and Toyota make some of the world's most reliable cars, and they have been using quality CVTs for quite some time.
@@josevince2424 I did hear that - at least in reference to the rods. However, sounds like OP is stating that there may be more components that are weaker in the hatch. If you don't want to mod heavily, I wouldn't be concerned. However, if you do, maybe consider a coupe or sedan.
What's the secret on the throttle thing to make it faster bro?I have a civic too but hatchback and never heard of the weaker internals thing, glad u put that out there
I like these guys...they go right to the point...less talking and not joking around.
I know right
THANK YOU THANK YOU for including the Dragy! I Love your format and the match ups!
I could see you guys having a TV show one day, keep up the good work
Thank you
@@SamCarLegion of course man, thank you for the content
Thanks for setting up this Race Sam. I was curious to see this line up ! That CVT Civic is a cool "sleeper" 😁👍🏾🔥 !
I got a 2017 Civic Coupe 2.0 and I'm wondering if some tuning wont break my ctv!!!!!!!!
love this. the channel is getting more and more better keep up the good work
I want to see some Honda Accord 2.0 tuned races! Getting ready to tune mine so would like to see what that will be like up against other cars like this.
Let us know how it goes
I can't wait to see the Civic beat the Accord. Thanks Sam for always bringing us good content!!
Thank you
Don't underestimate the accord, oh wait never mind its the voodo civic
@@edwardagustin6664 tune the accord and it would be a different outcome the civic always weighs a lot less
By now Everyone should know the civic would win, only I didn't expect such a big gap
Thank you Sam I could read the vehicle stats much better Excellent video again Bravisimo
Thank you
That Civic is impressive. However the sound of a CVT at full throttle is never good imo. This one is amplified even more, thanks to the exhaust. I think this Civic vs the Sonata N-Line or K5 GT would be very interesting. Thanks Sam.
Guess you missed it but they already did one with this civic vs the k5 gt
czcams.com/video/W9_xnACUcf0/video.html
This civic would smoke both of those cars
@@MWCRUSADER0508
Not according to the draggy numbers at the end. I think it would be close though.
@@wbwayne8887 yeah because draggy times never differs....smh all those numbers you seeing on Google are well prep surface, 🙄
This happened already and the civic won every time
Love the new music and the specs
Damn who would have thought the lighter car that was tuned with more power would win lol.
Being waiting on since, 👍👍👍 the accord owner said he has an intake and an exhaust, but that shouldn't really increase power dramatically.
Well it isn’t drastic but I did FBO Ford Focus sedan. You can check on my page. Those things move fbo. If you get good work done it’s good. Those accords move.
WTF The civic trap 172km 😲😲😲 and it seem like it hit the redline too which cuts power a bit, so that means it can trap even higher with a good run, Damn impressive for that little tiny 1.5
Mine top is 205 km/hr with the stock engine
@@thebustle2482 im talking about TRAP speed on the 1\4 mile, not Top speed, they're two completely different things
@@jannamkeeran7137 Got it Men😉
That civic is as fast as the current Civic Type R. Holy cow! impressive
try faster
Great idea for this civics next race…
@@jannamkeeran7137 Only because of the cvt vs manual shifting
Really? Holy crap!! Lol
My gf got a 2018 civic sport. Maybe this video will convince her to tune it xD
so funny i was looking at the new civic and saw this in my recommendation list, glad I click on it.
Cvt puts the engine directly at its revs that produce peak power and keeps it there. All other transmissions are going through a range of rpm and only hits peak power in a small part of that range.
Yes but it cant handle much power
That voodoo Civic pulled on a Type R. A stock Accord has little chance here.
You did it again Sam! I’d like to see that Civic go against everything
Lol, that could be a series
@@shabanajannik2600 Id rather have a faster car to have a series with , too many cars would beat that civic, even ones not tuned.
@@vroomgc yess but remeber its a 1.5 L turbo. small engine
@@rigoeats3654 Its not about the power it gets from a small engine I'm just saying if there was a series than start from the bottom and do drag races all the way up knocking out the current weeks champ as you move up in hp. Not just do a series with a civic.
Great video like always but isn't this an unfair comparison 😅. 1.5 is tuned vs non tuned. The 2.0 10 speed is pretty damn quick. I would love to see this 1.5 come back vs a tuned 2.0 10 speed. That would be an awesome race
Unfortunately it's not coming back:(
I've never seen anyone excited about getting walked 😂😂😂😂 Man cracked me up, he was excited the civic was gapping him lol
Thanks Sam
The Civic really surprised me with the CVT and all but, the Civic pulled through against the Accord with ten speed transmission this time 😉
The cvt is quicker than a 10 speed because it has no gears but its limited to how much torque you can put on it. This tranny may not last long unfortunately.
Can't wait to see this one, 🙌
It’s times like this where people realize how underweight the accord is for an midsized family sedan. It weighs hardly 200 pounds more than a civic a compact sedan and the civic sport weighs as much as an VW GLI. It’s ridiculous how under weight it is. Which ofc helps its performance
Agreed! I think it's probably slightly lighter than the 06 accord coupe 6 speed(AV6) and if it is, that's kinda crazy.
@@vtecnegro85 those accord coupes hold all the weight in those oversized asses lol
These videos are getting better, I love the new format showing 0-60 times!
The Civic beat the K5 which beat the Accord so the Civic has it!
That's crazy, I didn't think the CVT would win. I need a full mod list on that thing lol.
That CVT probably last only 1 year 😂
People don't realize that regardless of the civic being a cvt.... any car with an automatic tranny will blow up sooner or later with twice the power going through it.
True. Just cause the CVT can PUSH 250 plus hp doesn’t mean you should
Damn, the two underdogs that's being surprising everyone is going against each, this should be interesting.
Sam, thanks making the Spec font bigger. 👍😘
Watching people race with an automatic is like drinking decaf coffee.
Some people like the taste, without the adrenaline rush
@@ELP1125 fair enough. Cvt did surprise the crap outta me
Well here we goo!!💨💨🤙🤙
I LIKE HOW IT SHOWED THE 1/4 MILE TIME KEEP THAT UP
Lmfao that cat strapped in the back hahaha
can we get sam to 100k sub for Christmas, dudes been on roll, civic does it again 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Thank you!
20 thousands views in just one day 😲😲 these cars doing better than actually performance cars .
As much as people may hate CVT. It is here to stay.
The only downside of cvt in a proper drag race is the sluggish start, but as I tested in beamng drive, cvt yields better mid high speed acceleration and ended up with higher speed in a quarter mile.
Fun and fuel economy can still stand together as Honda proved, but as long as you want fuel economy, you need to make some sacrifices.
I like it when normal cars are raced against each other. It's cool to see how they stack up
The civic was hardly normal, lol. The accord was stock.
I’d like to see a tuned 2.0 with stage 4 flex fuel kit! Numbers are insane 335hp 375tq that’s what I’m currents running!! Flex fuel for the win!!!
Nice 🤓👍
I hope you improved the tires too ;)
Soooo confused on how he's getting 300hp and 240 lbs torque through a cvt! Without band slippage ....or it's soon to come
Me too, but I've seen this car here tons of times now
The Toyota and Honda CVT transmission's Are built by Them, Much better then most out on the Market these days 🤓👍
300 hp is right at the limit of what most tuners recommend with the CVT, so he’s basically maxed out the potential. His tune seems to keep it safe for launching and you can tell from how slow it is off the line. As long as he doesn’t push the power further, the CVT will hold up.
Probably doesnt run it too often at this high power
Type S vs Civic next
Exhaust on the civic looks nice.
You made this video…thanks! Man that civics fast!
That Accord is not a Sport...it's a Touring...it is a little heavier than the Sport...but not by much...
The accord is getting smoked 😂
Wow that Civic Touring is putting down Type R numbers, impressive for sure but it has to be straining that CVT. Eventually that thing is going to blow.
Great race!! Congrats for Draggy stats!! 👏👏👏👏👏
Appreciate new format. Have much catching up. Who’s complaining? Keep it up!!
I thought you said no more of this civic videos because it's on the channel alot, but I guess luckily for me I get to see another one lol
That's a Accord Touring 2.0t not Sport
Yeah they should have used the accord sport touring its a detuned type r pretty much
That accord owner is going to order a ktuner or a Hondata as soon as he gets home after that race 😂😂
Nope. Too broke
I have a feeling this Civic will be on Kijiji soon " One gently used Civic for sale" 🤣🤣🤣
Yall be wishing and wishing, the car has done so much race's here, like what more do u people want, Jesus Christ help the haters
Came here to bash on the cvt but left humbled.
Sam you know what this means right? It’s time for the tuned GLI vs this tuned civic.
The type r vs the tuned civic too
The civic need a run with the type s
Would love to see a 2.0 Civic vs 1.5t Civic race 🤔
Fr cause I got 2.0 n/a I wanna see how it runs
@@AntonioRodriguez-wb6cb me too man i got it in manual put a cai, custom exhaust and kutner
@@CosmiqueVlogs yea I got a down pipe, air intake, ktuner, pedal commander, sway bar my car is cvt though non turbo, wish we had more aftermarket mods
I’ve raced my friends 2.0 civic in my 1.5t before the 2.0 can keep up somewhat but the 1.5t eventually starts to leave it behind
It's not a fair race at all. The tune civic 1.5t has more horsepower and lighter. Power to weight? Let them race both cars with the same upgrades and mods!!!
The CVT models can only be tuned to a certain point before it can't handle anymore power. The manual transmission is a much better platform to use a tune with
With that level of torque that cvt is giving. It will break for sure one day
If you have a turbocharged vehicle and you've been getting on it never turn it off right away at least let it idle for a couple minutes pop your hood if possible lol... Or drive it easy for the last couple minutes before your destination 💯👍👍
Sorry king accord but the boy racer civic got this , I think 🤔
I had a tuned 2.0T 10AT accord. I’d like to see if the difference between stock and a tuned accord.
the accord 2.0t would be a match for my 2016 passat 3.6 v6. clamed14.3 1\4 mile stock
That’s good numbers for a civic 1.5! My 8th gen si with hondata flash pro, intake, headers and exhaust makes maybe 250 hp
Great video, thanks! Both cars really move.
Draggy is useless tbh, there's so many variables that will give you different times- weather, the wind, the sea level, the slope etc
Thank you, couldn’t agree more!
Plus traction too
well thats how it always is no??
@@Rafaahh exactly. It’s beyond me how anyone could say it’s useless.
Alll those variables effect the 0-60 times of the car though. Especially slope, temperature and sea level. You get horrible numbers especially in a turbo at altitude.
Honda needs to make more AWDs that get decent MPG. FWD sucks, IMO.
I would take 2.0T 10AT any day over 1.5T CVT.
Me to...and I have one...
13.6 on a tune with cvt. Impressive
CVT's just arent strong enough to handle anything above 230 lb ft consistently IMO. They are a much cheaper solution and give great mpg. For anyone that likes to drive enthusiastically the CVT is useless and for anyone that likes performance mods..... fuggedaboutit
Mine tuner with the stock turbo has been handling 268lb tq fine with 40k+ miles. Bought used too
Money's on the Honda 😂
There both Hondas 🤦♂️
@@danieloh9385r/wooosh
Civic is a 🏎
I love that you added the draggy to the mix! Are you going to do that with all the races moving forward?
Not anymore. Not enough time and certainly not really the best place for dragy times
Him having the sunroof open is creating A LOT of drag.
BUT a CVT could never compete with a traditional automatic IMO.
Excuse my ignorance, but is this basically a modified Civic vs a stock Accord? Not sure what this justifies... It's one thing to compare both stock models, but then I suppose the Accord would win too easily? I feel like the Accord should have been slightly modified as well since it was clearly heavier and less HP, you could probably see the result coming right from the opening specs.
Up next flash tune the Accord 2.0T because this one was stock I seen plenty videos of that stock accord which I liked 👍 great videos keep up the great work
I needa see this civic vs the PASSPORT TOURING !!
How much did it cost to get 300 BHP out of the 1.5 liter? Also factor in the cost of a new CVT, because that one is going to be slipping within a couple years if driven hard with that much increased torque.
Yeah. 6+ second 0-60 on the accord my ass. Mine will do 5.5 from time to time. *STOCK*
This is why I won’t use it again
@@SamCarLegion it's just inconsistent or what?
@@Eric-vh5by i think the car is not consistent not dragy
The cars usually are affected by many factors like road surface conditions , outside temperature and type of tyers and other factors as well so it is imposible to get same results in diffrent conditions👍🏻
@@aymanal_jahwari9148 Hot and humid temperatures especially are not a friend to turbo engines. They seen to run a bit rougher in that weather.
I wonder how much of a difference there is between the Accord 2.0T and Mazda 3 Turbo :)
Sam please find someone with a 2.0t Sport (Non Touring) The 2.0t Sport IS FASTER THAN THE TOURING. You keep making the 2.0t look bad 😕
This is even heavier than a hatch and it’s 🔥. GJ
I love how they call the Accord Touring 2.0T a Sport 2.0T. Fortunately the BHP and torque ratios are the same; it's just a naming issue.
Big kudos to the Dragy numbers!
No surprise here, less weight and more HP with a tune plus CVT. If anything goes to show you how fast a 2.0 is.
It’s not a 2.0. It’s a 1.5 t
Honda makes a good CVT. But, it still does not change this thing is a ticking time bomb with so much power being pushed.
Can You write a full spec of that Civic? It's insane, it has 300hp...sorry for my english. Greetings from Poland
Was the accord even in sport mode?
Next race Honda ACCORD 2.0T VS Acura tlx aspec or tlx base
That already happened
The Accord 2.0T wins
@@RaY_77W can you link it please 😊
This video really points out to me how much I appreciate a good automatic . I know that cvts are efficient but are not for me . Very quick civic by the way .
Nice race like always, hey Sam i would like to see the BMW M235i with the G70 i know that BMW doesn't have the horse power like the G70 but that BMW feel so fast my brother just bought and feel fast i think will be a good race 👍
Ugh people that tune the CVT’s… why
Civic won 🔥🔥🔥
Will be interested race but we know the outcome out of this one 😉
How do you get 300hp out of the cvt? I thought the most it could handle was 225hp. What mods were done to achieve this and keep it intact?
Dang 13.65 for the civic not bad. My 1996 civic with 100 shot and fbo was barley making those numbers.
Thanks for another awesome race SAM I think that CIVIC is going to take it unless the ACCORD is also Tuned.L15B7 is on a totally different game with a upgraded TURBO even though it's a CVT
Well, that accord with a re tuned hondata... exhaust intake ... could really improve
Need to see a LT1 10 speed on here
Accord is more heavy and not tuned, put that civic against a tuned 2.0t Accord and let’s see what happens!
They did, and it was pretty even. Stage 1 civic vs stage 2 accord