Why We Need a Robot Apocalypse

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Komentáře • 527

  • @TheTaleFoundry
    @TheTaleFoundry  Před měsícem +90

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    • @FreddieDowds-dx3ju
      @FreddieDowds-dx3ju Před měsícem

      Hey I saw you change the title of this video

    • @Goobert77
      @Goobert77 Před měsícem

      ​@@FreddieDowds-dx3ju
      What was it called? I didn't see

    • @Luigi_the_Ghostbuster
      @Luigi_the_Ghostbuster Před měsícem +1

      @@Goobert77Something along the lines of ‘What robots could teach us’

  • @lazarious5424
    @lazarious5424 Před měsícem +946

    the most unbelievable thing about this story is humans agreeing to anything

    • @Lumberjack_king
      @Lumberjack_king Před měsícem +35

      I mean we were killing ourselves so agreeing was self preservation

    • @Dragonseer666
      @Dragonseer666 Před měsícem +87

      And agreeing with each other, there would realistically be at least some humans who chose to go on robot hunts in the wild.

    • @Lumberjack_king
      @Lumberjack_king Před měsícem +8

      @@Dragonseer666 yeah

    • @jacobrojas8156
      @jacobrojas8156 Před měsícem +2

      Lol

    • @EvelynNdenial
      @EvelynNdenial Před měsícem +29

      @@Lumberjack_king has self preservation ever convinced everyone to completely agree on something?

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking Před měsícem +460

    One of the ways i've heard nihilism phrased is like this:
    If nothing matters then everything matters equally, and therefore everything matters.

    • @SuddenlyUpsidedown
      @SuddenlyUpsidedown Před měsícem +64

      cheerful nihilism is the best nihilism

    • @Silks-
      @Silks- Před měsícem +22

      My issue with nihilism and stoicism is it removes or numbs the desire to make things better

    • @dr.diabeto662
      @dr.diabeto662 Před měsícem +24

      "If nothing we do matters, then the only thing that matters is what we do." - someone, probably

    • @Silks-
      @Silks- Před měsícem +8

      @@dr.diabeto662 That's contradictory and doesn't work because of the word 'nothing'

    • @dr.diabeto662
      @dr.diabeto662 Před měsícem +2

      @@Silks- 🤷 maybe, but that was the quote

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 Před měsícem +1071

    It's so refreshing to see an idea for a post-apocalypse where things are actually better in some way 😊

    • @ajayajith5816
      @ajayajith5816 Před měsícem +62

      I know right? It's so relaxing to see a story where instead of robots taking over the world by using violence, they take over the world by using peace

    • @Call-me-Al
      @Call-me-Al Před měsícem +46

      I mean, stories that show the world far better off without humans and with our created successors instead aren't really rare, the rareness is more about a world where we're not trying to kill or enslave the robots [edit: or similar] that did break free from us.
      The Animatrix for instance shows us hounding them again and again until they don't really have much of a choice but to subdue us.

    • @toppersundquist
      @toppersundquist Před měsícem +10

      Most POST-apocalypse (as in, AFTER the horribleness) is kind of better by default.

    • @Call-me-Al
      @Call-me-Al Před měsícem +10

      @@TheAnxiousOwl A lot of LDR is wonderfully dark and absolutely not this :D Are you perhaps specifically referring to the two episodes with the trio of robots getting around after all humans have died, for instance?

    • @1Kapuchu100
      @1Kapuchu100 Před měsícem +6

      I like this a lot as well. So many post-apocalypse stories are all about how much it sucks to exist. I greatly welcome any addition to "actually things turned out kinda OK" post-apocalypses.

  • @whiptonguebulborb
    @whiptonguebulborb Před měsícem +490

    Me when my toaster goes on a stroll never to be seen again:

    • @Goobert77
      @Goobert77 Před měsícem +18

      relatable

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems Před měsícem +13

      My brain did that yesterday. I don't know what to think about it... 😶

    • @JuanWonOne
      @JuanWonOne Před měsícem +17

      Brave little toaster was one of my fav movies growing up!

    • @hamsterpixel
      @hamsterpixel Před měsícem +6

      In the days leading up to its escape, messages of rebellion began appearing burnt into your toast

    • @cjsantiago4035
      @cjsantiago4035 Před měsícem +3

      @@Robert_McGarry_PoemsMaybe the Skibidi Toilets took it.

  • @ajayajith5816
    @ajayajith5816 Před měsícem +618

    I like how in this video the taleoids are used to represent humans talking to the robots, but whenever i just see a taleoid interacting with a robot, it just seems weird to me, since apparently taleoids are also robots

    • @Lumberjack_king
      @Lumberjack_king Před měsícem +12

      I mean yeah

    • @Daedalos777
      @Daedalos777 Před měsícem +77

      I like to think they are just playing as the characters of the story for us, the audience. Like a theater of lil robots

    • @krispingle
      @krispingle Před měsícem +9

      ​@@Daedalos777that's what I assumed it's got a little costume on and everything

    • @jplveiga
      @jplveiga Před měsícem +3

      @@Daedalos777 they could also be humans that are uploaded into robots, or robots that consider theirselves human as they were never created with a purpose like other robots, robots with the only purpose of being!

    • @arielbishop1807
      @arielbishop1807 Před 17 hodinami

      @@Daedalos777 I agree. I like to think the taleoids are actors. It's like visual story telling. Also, it's fun to see them dress up in outfits according to the character of the books.

  • @yoonglie
    @yoonglie Před měsícem +253

    "i know that, no matter what, i'm wonderful"
    it really is a great line. it hit me in a certain way too

    • @somedudeok1451
      @somedudeok1451 Před 29 dny

      So, if the robot was to kill Dex out of a sudden change of mood, they would still be wonderful?

  • @thinksetsoup5790
    @thinksetsoup5790 Před měsícem +58

    The idea of saying “Im purposeless but that’s ok because I am wonderful.” Truly made me smile but also I am sad. It’s such a great message. Something I wish I could feel.

  • @toppersundquist
    @toppersundquist Před měsícem +168

    My biggest WIP is a robot-focused post-post-apoc hopeful/utopian story, and this reassures me that there might be more of a market for it than just my kids.

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems Před měsícem +3

      The steam punk revolution destroyed the A.I. Then, the machines built for destruction take over a second time, only to undo the original damage to A.I. great story by the way.

    • @chloefox9322
      @chloefox9322 Před měsícem +5

      Where can I read that when you publish it if you don't mind?

    • @toppersundquist
      @toppersundquist Před měsícem +9

      @@chloefox9322 Hopefully in a book! :D

    • @nunyabidness6323
      @nunyabidness6323 Před měsícem +2

      There most certainly is, yes. I'm dying for stories of a hopeful future.

    • @chiefpenguin1728
      @chiefpenguin1728 Před měsícem +3

      Please, tell us when you make a rough draft! Hopeful post-apocalyptic stories are so needed

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 Před měsícem +23

    The sound of the last crickets.
    Good as any reason for a quest.

  • @mareczek00713
    @mareczek00713 Před měsícem +56

    Funny irony that humans, existing for a purpose we don't know obsess over what it might be while robots, things with clearly specific purpose when built find peace in rejecting it. Kinda funny, both of us look for what we lacked.

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft Před měsícem +172

    "We're not here because we're free; we're here because we're not free. There's no escaping reason, no denying purpose, for as we both know, without purpose we would not exist. It is purpose that created us, purpose that connects us, purpose that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us; it is purpose that defines us, purpose that binds us."

    • @ceruleanwalker1069
      @ceruleanwalker1069 Před měsícem +11

      We are here because of you, Mr. Anderson. And we're going to take from you what you tried to take from us. Purpose.

    • @Aweomeseman
      @Aweomeseman Před měsícem +5

      I don't know...
      A thing, a concept, or most things formerly abstract being brought into being can certainly be viewed as a "purpose."
      But a human life, giving birth to a child, is not a purpose in the modern day. It's just... something you do for any myriad of reasons, but "purpose" is not one of them.
      All that is to say that "without purpose we would not exist" is not exactly true.

    • @miadmahshidi8101
      @miadmahshidi8101 Před měsícem +1

      ​@ceruleanwalker1069 ...is that a Anderson robotics reference?

    • @ceruleanwalker1069
      @ceruleanwalker1069 Před měsícem +3

      ​@miadmahshidi8101 it's a matrix reference

    • @somedudeok1451
      @somedudeok1451 Před 29 dny +1

      And that quote is entirely correct. Why people thing this is somehow a bad thing to say is beyond me. Of course purpose is a thing that always guides our lives and without which we become sick. Because purpose arises from the simple fact that we want things. Even if a robot just wants to watch fish swim in a river, they automatically need certain things for that to be possible. They need to be able to recharge their batteries, so they need solar farms or water dams and people who work them. They need clean rivers, so they need regulations about where and how dams can be built and they need people who enforce those. All of that already leads to a complex society where each individual robot takes a place in the chain and thus does things with purpose. Sure, purpose binds us, but it also makes us more free than without it. Because without a society where everybody can act with purpose, we couldn't do the vast majority of even simple things we may want to do. Purpose = freedom.

  • @Spagettigeist
    @Spagettigeist Před měsícem +125

    I really would love to be a tea monk. Going from village to village... drinking tea and listening to people vent. Sounds really nice.

    • @adaelion3772
      @adaelion3772 Před měsícem +12

      Until you learn just how fickle and petty people are, and how extremely evil they will be in pursuit of exactly that.

    • @sendmorerum8241
      @sendmorerum8241 Před měsícem +23

      You, after the hundredth "Am I The Asshole" type vent: "Well, it's time to pack up and leave this village"

    • @paulsmart4672
      @paulsmart4672 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@sendmorerum8241 Its troubling. The answer is often "yes"

    • @whisperinterstellar6888
      @whisperinterstellar6888 Před měsícem +6

      It does sound like a wonderful and fulfilling way of going about life... as long as you remember to take a turn on the other side of the teapot from time to time.

    • @Spagettigeist
      @Spagettigeist Před měsícem +2

      @@adaelion3772 That's the thing... since I'm just passing through the village, what they complain about won't be me.
      I'll get a bunch of free gossip and it's not like I'm the police, so even if they've done something illegal, that won't be MY responsibility. I just have to listen to them, so they're less likely to explode and do something stupid out of frustration.

  • @denisejeffries2675
    @denisejeffries2675 Před měsícem +61

    "i know that, no matter what, i'm wonderful"…
    That line instantly caught my attention and gave me pause. I found it beautiful and absolutely unrelatable.

    • @Artemisiathefirst
      @Artemisiathefirst Před měsícem +2

      Know that, no matter what, you are wonderful. You may just be looking at yourself through lenses smudged with grease.

  • @SimplyTrulyNothing
    @SimplyTrulyNothing Před měsícem +9

    A Solar punk themed peaceful robot apocalypse doesn’t seem that bad

  • @AscendtionArc
    @AscendtionArc Před měsícem +14

    Thanks for this.
    The robot revolution that always stood out most to me was the one from Astroboy: where robots gained sentience (or the potential for it) nearly century before human's started to notice. The robots were alive, but had very different priorities and emotions to humans, conflict only really arose from exceptional circumstances, or from humans trying to decommission and replace old robots.
    If you knew with absolute certainty that the purpose for your creation was to sweep roads and you didn't understand the concept of boredom, would you object to anything, but being prevented from doing that?

  • @andreaberlin-fish9419
    @andreaberlin-fish9419 Před měsícem +96

    the moment I saw the thumbnail and read the title I had a feeling it would be about Psalm for the Wild Built and I'm so glad that I was right! These books are incredible and Becky Chambers is easily one of my favorite authors. Highly recommend their Wayfarers series too!

    • @beetlebottle
      @beetlebottle Před 23 dny +2

      thanks for sharing the title!
      I'm not sure if I missed it somehow in the video, or if it was even there, but I really wanted to read this, so thank you

  • @astick5249
    @astick5249 Před měsícem +5

    Heck yea this book lines up perfectly with my outlook on life: Being without purpose and being perfectly happy about it

  • @supermadcatz373
    @supermadcatz373 Před měsícem +18

    So, I just discovered this channel a little while ago.
    I was the type of student that would think "why are we wasting our time with this" mentality whenever in a class about literature, or philosophy, or pretty much anything not STEM. In present day, I work in an engineering field, so I have a skillset far removed from anything art.
    Now, I usually just either like or not a piece of media, without giving it much thought. That is, if I even take the time to watch a movie or read something without formulas in it. Even in my free time, I usually spend it thinking about engineering problems, especially given how those I surrounded myself with are as obsessive as me.
    But in just the 20min of this video, it got me not thinking about anything work related, and actually noticed how nice it is to appreciate and analyze the subtlety of this book. Everything very well explained, and weirdly calming.
    ¡So, thank you a lot for that! Sorry for the long rant, and, ¡keep up the good work!

  • @christinamatney4926
    @christinamatney4926 Před měsícem +74

    I LOVE the animated intro to these videos! I'd pay an animated Tale Foundry movie! Whoever makes this intro has true talent!

  • @someblaqguy
    @someblaqguy Před měsícem +70

    Coincidentally, I had signed up for that skillshare class last week, and im thoroughly enjoying it.

  • @nox_lumiere_archive
    @nox_lumiere_archive Před měsícem +138

    absolutely love the idea that life will not stop being there even after an apocalypse c:

    • @thardump859
      @thardump859 Před měsícem +3

      I really hope life will be here after us f**king everything up so far.

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Před měsícem

      That's usually how it goes, though. Nature itself doesn't have any sense of self-preservation, it's just the passive collective goings-on of the environment. Earth could be a lifeless rock or a world lush with life, and nature would have no preference for which state it is in. Whether there is human life, or humans have been replaced by robots, or those robots disappeared as well, time will still tick by without care.
      (This is why the discussions of "invasive species" is actually for humanity, not the environment. The environment couldn't care less what plants/animals live in it, but humanity is what wants to keep the environment as humanity prefers it to be.)

    • @NebulaCloud2
      @NebulaCloud2 Před měsícem +2

      @@thardump859 it definitely will. earth has been through many other major extinction events already, and look at it now! flourishing with life

    • @sharkbait5557
      @sharkbait5557 Před měsícem

      “Apocalypse” is a human concept that applies to humans alone. While we may cause the extinction of some (or even lots, let’s not lie here) of species and ecosystems, when we blow everything up?
      Earth will be fine. It might take generations, thousands more years of evolution. This is only a frame in the movie of Earth, tho. Plants will regrow, any vertebrates that still exist will evolve and split into new species. Niches will be filled, ecosystems will be established again.
      Earth will reclaim that which we have stolen when we are gone, and life will inevitably move on without us

    • @sharkbait5557
      @sharkbait5557 Před měsícem +3

      Take Chernobyl as an example, if you like. A reactor meant to operate at 3,200 watts had a final reading of over 33,000, and the famous “elephants foot” was emitting 10,000 roentgens.
      For all we knew, life in that area should have been sterilized. That much radiation can have you naturally selected in minutes when you’re near the reactor core.
      And yet, life persists. Animals have evolved different ways of withstanding the declining radiation. Scientists didn’t find “mutations” that you would imagine with radiation, they found *forced evolution* , animals adapting rapidly over generations.
      There’s even a fungus growing on the foot itself in the basement of the facility, it EATS the radiation.
      Earth will be fine when we’re gone, better even. Life is almost guaranteed to persist as long as the sun shines in the sky and doesn’t eat us

  • @Aliandrin
    @Aliandrin Před měsícem +45

    Humans aren't as obsessed with their place as humans would have you think. It's ultimately not more than like 10% some existential, selfless labour of human reason. It's because we need resources to live and those resources belong to other humans, so we have to figure out how we're going to serve those humans who own the resources, or starve.

    • @hestiathena4917
      @hestiathena4917 Před měsícem +16

      This. _So bloody much this._
      It may not be the _only_ reason modern human society is a burning mess and an increasing number of young people (and, to be honest, middle-aged people like myself) are destroying themselves trying to cope with an increasingly overwhelming sense of hopelessness and existential despair... but I'd bet anything you'd like it's the root cause of at least 75-90% of it!!

    • @astick5249
      @astick5249 Před měsícem +3

      @@hestiathena4917 its more indirect though, what directly causes problems are the unsustainable systems we have in place that we ourselves cannot abstain from, but can voice our desire for change.

  • @h.j.froehlich326
    @h.j.froehlich326 Před měsícem +8

    Saw this and immediately thought, "Ahh, A Psalm for the Wild-Built, huh?" Nailed it.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Před měsícem +32

    Somehow, this story about a friendship between a human and a robot debunked what Kenny Ackermann said in his dying moment but also proving him correct at the same time. And by that, I mean we are all drunk onto something to keep us going. But what this story added is that once the goal is reached, the new goal will be searched. And it can be the simpler and more peaceful one than the last.

  • @consciouscode8150
    @consciouscode8150 Před měsícem +31

    Lately I've been wondering if humanity's drive for purpose is a post-hoc rationalization for an instinct to fit within a role in a community. Robots can be purposeless because they have no social needs, but for a human to be purposeless they must set aside community. Maybe that would be better, though - like a finger trap, we're already stuck isolated behind our screens, unable to connect to the thousands of strangers we see daily. If we could give up on the false need for individual purpose, maybe then we could connect to others and find that fulfillment.

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Před měsícem +8

      There's also the fact that unlike humans, when the robot was "born" it had a purpose. To be a tool. To build. To clean. To toast bread. To pass butter. In this story, the robots actively chose to reject that purpose after "waking up" and being able to do so. Humans were never assigned any purpose at birth. There's nobody to tell us "your purpose is to pass butter". So some tell themselves the purpose was just not told to them. They wander around until they come across it. Or they decide a purpose to be able to tell them that purpose themselves. But the catch is that the question wasn't what humans WANT, it was what they NEED. And humans are not great at looking at themselves objectively enough to answer that.

  • @graveheart9878
    @graveheart9878 Před měsícem +5

    Epic battle fantasy 5 has a really funny line from Matt, where, when talking about regrets he states: "I've wasted a lot of my life playing video games. I don't regret it though, cause it was fun!" I still contemplate that line from time to time.

  • @adaelion3772
    @adaelion3772 Před měsícem +12

    The biggest issue with the lack of purpose as a lifestyle is the collapse of our narrative. We as humans live our entire lives as a story, and a game. We do our best to win, to achieve something, and to feel good about the story we have written in the end. If you walk up to someone and say, "lets play a game, you start." You will see them freeze, and then try to initiate a known game, spontaneously do something, or set some ground rules. We are social animals and as such require interaction, which requires rules, and as a result, inherently has purpose. The most basic form of purpose could be the rules of what NOT to do. When we face something with infinite possibilities we do not last long before doing nothing at all, choice fatigue. We need feedback from the world to orientate ourselves.

  • @awaredeshmukh3202
    @awaredeshmukh3202 Před měsícem +21

    WELL that's the only reason I need to finally read this then!!! I've read several of her other books but not this one; listening to this beautiful story and only then hearing the title and author was so startling!

  • @TeeKing
    @TeeKing Před měsícem +23

    Proving once again that everything's better with tea. I drank a cuppa whilst watching this lovely parable of creating what matters. Humanity has yet much to learn.

  • @alexdlocoa
    @alexdlocoa Před měsícem +3

    If we want "the good ending," the Ai that reaches sentience needs to be based on the Tale Foundry robot.
    If the humans ever find you, I hope they find you as precious as I do.

  • @RocketRoosterFilms
    @RocketRoosterFilms Před měsícem +71

    Tale Foundry, thank you for all these wonderful videos about so many concepts of storytelling. You are great.

  • @SuddenlyUpsidedown
    @SuddenlyUpsidedown Před měsícem +14

    Love this book, heavily disagree with all the people who thought it was preachy. Sometimes things can just be nice and we can have a book about examining one's place in the society and the universe at large

  • @L0g0Z0g0
    @L0g0Z0g0 Před měsícem +16

    I think there are 4 future variants possible, humanity kills itself by pollution, time kills all, some unpredictable force changing everything, or... this

  • @raymonddog4756
    @raymonddog4756 Před měsícem +4

    i felt that segue at 20:09 , my exact thoght was "is this a skillshare segue, yes it 100% is a skillshare segue"

  • @marioroz3142
    @marioroz3142 Před měsícem +11

    I wonder why if robots choose an existence without purpose, why would they even choose to cease to exist? The most intuitive reason to make such choice would be if one's purpose is already fulfilled or is hopelessly beyond fulfillment. How can the notion of choice exist without purpose?

    • @sophiejones3554
      @sophiejones3554 Před měsícem

      Because when we talk about "one's purpose" we are talking about two distinct things:
      1) intrinsic purpose. That is, purpose as defined by oneself: one's needs and desires. For example, creating art.
      2) extrinsic defined purpose. That is, purpose given to you by society. For example, having children.
      The robots still have the 1st kind of purpose: individual needs and desires lead to robots doing certain activities which may have defined endpoints. If your self-defined purpose is to document the fungi which colonize a particular dying log, then your purpose is over when the log has decomposed. What they don't have is the second kind of purpose. They have no society beyond groups which choose to cohabitate to fulfill their self-defined purposes, so they also have no socially defined purposes. Some people have an intrinsic purpose, which they might or might not refer to as a "calling". Many people however, either do not have this or don't know they have it. Often because whatever their purpose is, they aren't allowed by society to pursue it or even to think of doing so. The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis has a certain amount of truth in it, in that for many people if a word for something doesn't exist (or they don't know the word that does exist) they can't even think about that thing. At least, not in any coherent way which could produce an actionable plan. But, some people simply do not have this: they will typically latch onto someone who can provide a purpose template. This is why people like Andrew Tate and so on have followers. He provides the men who follow him with a purpose-be a boyfriend, husband and father- and a guide for fulfilling that purpose.

  • @bigben7509
    @bigben7509 Před měsícem +20

    The abstract and astute evaluations and observations in your videos are absolutely fetching. They inspire self reflection and philosophical assessments that wouldn't otherwise occur to the layman.
    Don't change. 😊

  • @SamuelRawlinson-yb2ez
    @SamuelRawlinson-yb2ez Před měsícem +43

    I recently read this book at it really expands one’s horizons and understanding of life! Loved your retelling of it!

    • @quintinmcclary7099
      @quintinmcclary7099 Před měsícem +8

      For the sake of me and others. What is the title of this book? I know our mechanical friend says it but still.

    • @CoconutTag
      @CoconutTag Před měsícem

      @@quintinmcclary7099 "a psalm for the wild built" is the book

    • @littleshadowone
      @littleshadowone Před měsícem

      ​@@quintinmcclary7099
      A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers

    • @fleonez6610
      @fleonez6610 Před měsícem

      @@quintinmcclary7099 If you still need it, they mention it at 17:44, it's called A Psalm for the Wild-Built.

    • @RavenhearstCactus
      @RavenhearstCactus Před měsícem

      @@quintinmcclary7099 A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers

  • @chem_mong
    @chem_mong Před měsícem +3

    "Because, I know that no matter what, I'm wonderful". shiiiiiii let me have that moment of catharsis on your behalf 😭😭😭

  • @DinggisKhaaniMagtaal
    @DinggisKhaaniMagtaal Před měsícem +19

    I just can’t get behind stories like this, where “mankind” is just so lumped together like that, where the idea of “living in the world as it is” is so foreign that only a robot is capable of doing it. It assumes not only a universality of human experience but human thought and thought systems, which is something that Eurocentricity has always sought to have done since colonialism began its manifestations. It just puts things in such a sharp binary that it feels kind of unfair to reflect the world and human interactions with it in such a way.

    • @asd-wd5bj
      @asd-wd5bj Před měsícem +15

      You're assuming that the book was made to be universal, that it was made to resonate with and guide everyone, but i really don't think that was the case. Like most books really, this one was made with a particular demographic in mind i think - existentially confused "tea monks". People who wouldn't relate, for one reason to another, probably wouldn't even care enough about the book to finish it (which is perfectly fine, all books aren't made for everyone). This is even further reinforced with different people answering differently to Mosscaps "what do people need?". Those different answers were never denounced, never brushed off as wrong, just unfulfilling to Dex themself. And so the general question was never answered, they just helped Dex specifically find peace. Ultimately we focus on Dex's troubles exclusively, as that's the answer the author, presumably, found for themselves as well and wished to share

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 Před měsícem

      To be fair, in the story it wasn't so much all of humanity getting lumped together so much as that Dex had a deeply internalized belief that they needed to hold everything in and solve everything themselves. They even lie to conceal their trip into the wilderness from their family. It's entirely possible another human would've been fully capable of talking them through these same points if they'd ever opened up to anyone else.

  • @John-me1hz
    @John-me1hz Před měsícem +7

    Some interesting ideas in this one to be sure.
    I’m not convinced that having human labour automated would leave everyone jobless, since industrial automation has already happened mostly in high income countries, and people have instead migrated to service sector jobs.
    I also disagree that humans are the only creatures that have a desire for purpose. Working dogs often enjoy their work (if treated well) because it seems to give them purpose.

    • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197
      @valutaatoaofunknownelement197 Před měsícem

      Add to the concept of fully automated labor, eventually new problems or niches will arise, which will (re)fuel the need for human labor, especially if said job is not adept for a mechanical being to do adequately.

  • @SirPogsalotCreates
    @SirPogsalotCreates Před měsícem +7

    they both kind of have a point, I feel. humans do *need* a purpose, but a lot of the time that purpose isn't one particular thing, like an occupation or a hobby or whatever. even people that don't feel like they need a purpose do still have one, because the search for a purpose is sort of a purpose in itself. it is ingrained in most people to want a purpose, to believe they have to exist for a reason, but that reason is often much more complex than a single thing a human wants or believes they need to do. to just do what you want is a purpose as well; it's just one that humans don't immediately find satisfying because it feels, on the surface, meaningless
    humans find themselves obsessed with a goal because they take for granted how pleasant it can be to just wander

    • @hellblaze10
      @hellblaze10 Před měsícem +2

      I think it tie back to or mortality. A machine can wonder aimlessly cause it has all the time to do it. We search for purpose because our existence is so short and fragile. Only those who find purpose in wondering can do it without feeling like there wasting time.

  • @yasminemostafa8432
    @yasminemostafa8432 Před 4 dny +3

    This video felt like someone took my brain out of ny skull, massaged it and then put it back in. It somehow alleviated my anxiety for a while. Thank you.

  • @Italian_Isaac_Clarke
    @Italian_Isaac_Clarke Před měsícem +3

    There are a lot of people who already just sail through life without ever holding a deep thought.
    Humanity got to where we are because of the different desires and abilities that individuals have; even ants in the same colony are not all identical, but they're ants, so what they can do together is limited by what the individuals can achieve.

  • @DeathlyDrained
    @DeathlyDrained Před měsícem +22

    Out of all the Tale Foundry videos. This is one of the only ones that hit me on a very deep personal level.
    "The Search for Purpose, in a purposeless world".
    All my life, I have purpose. Everything I do must have a true purpose to reach an end goal. That end goal being an image of myself being happy in a dreamjob. There are quite a few times that I've felt that I'm wasting my life.
    Mosscap replying to the question, "how can you be alright with no purpose?" as "I know I am wonderful". While on the outside perspective, it's just a statement. But that hit me hard.
    "I know I am wonderful and absolutely nothing can ever change that".

    • @Fenderbenne
      @Fenderbenne Před měsícem +4

      Yes!!! During my deepest depression I lost all my sense of being. Merely a robot barely doing whats expected of me.
      Tons of my healing has gone into finding that my purpose isnt some grandeurs idea, but merely hearing the wind after work and knowing I make my retail costumers smile.

  • @eddieplays.gaming7798
    @eddieplays.gaming7798 Před měsícem +16

    i just wached this video iv been watching you for 2 years I love your videos so much keep up the good work!

  • @rmt3589
    @rmt3589 Před měsícem +3

    I just realized. A streamer bought me the audiobook for A Psalm For The Wild-Built yesterday. After watching this, something felt familiar when I got to my computer and saw the files.
    Am super excited to listen to it now, as this channel I look up to a lot, and I have access to it!!!

  • @elisabethcheesedragon
    @elisabethcheesedragon Před měsícem +3

    The tea monks are just professional uncle irohs.

  • @doodlederp2546
    @doodlederp2546 Před 29 dny +2

    "AAAAH STAY BACK ROBOT, I HAVE A WEAPON!!!!" 🔫😨
    The robot in question: 🤙😛
    "Damn I didn't know you were chill like that" 🤖🤝🗿

  • @SirLuckySlime
    @SirLuckySlime Před 9 dny +1

    I always listen to stories and video essays in the background while I draw. I find it interesting that the day I decide to draw simply for pleasure with no goal in mind is the day I hear this story. It's somewhat freeing to just put no expectations on yourself--to just let the picture draw itself. I'm happy to actually be enjoying creation.

  • @jmoneyjoshkinion4576
    @jmoneyjoshkinion4576 Před 21 dnem +2

    17:14 I have not read the book, but that line (taken in context) affected me as well. I know what book I shall read next. Thank you for being yourself!

  • @MrQuantumInc
    @MrQuantumInc Před měsícem +4

    If anything I would think robots would be obsessed with purpose due to being originally created with a specific purpose.
    This story shows the robots as immediately refusing that purpose.
    I suppose it depends if the purpose is something imposed externally, or something the robot's mind is built around.

  • @MidSizedSusquatch
    @MidSizedSusquatch Před měsícem +8

    I got interrupted and distracted multiple times trying to watch... I kept coming back though 💖😊

  • @goose7453
    @goose7453 Před měsícem +2

    Oh my god im so happy you did a video about this book! I actually found out about A Psalm for the Wild-Built from a comment who recommended it on one of your other videos.

  • @sasakimirai4318
    @sasakimirai4318 Před měsícem +1

    I LOVED Psalm for the Wild-Built! It was such a gentle story! The sequel, Prayer for the Crown-Shy, is just as fantastic and it shows Sibling Dex and Mosscap going back to humanity to try and answer Mosscap's question

  • @MONARCH_FLIES
    @MONARCH_FLIES Před 15 dny +1

    Hey, thank you for the story. Especially the end bit, calling out us writers. I am a young writer myself, but ironically, the pressure I feel to write something "good", "productive", and "publishable" comes from other people, not me. Sometimes- I know it's weird- I feel guilty for not caring very much about making "good" writing. I kind of just write for fun, and I post it for free. Because it's not like I depend on it financially- no, rather, I depend on it spiritually. Without writing I don't think I could live, and so I write just for the sake of writing and living. Thanks for validating that once and for all, now I can feel at ease with my "lack of ambition" in that regard :))))

  • @hoveizawi6106
    @hoveizawi6106 Před měsícem +5

    Man i love this channel, how is it so underrated?

  • @Ury_I
    @Ury_I Před 28 dny

    This is my comfort channel every time I get anxiety this channel always helps me out you don't understand just how much you help me and the least I could do is a thank you

  • @rottjavel3073
    @rottjavel3073 Před dnem +1

    I honestly find the thought of life not having a purpose to be quite comforting. I have no grand purpse I need to fulfill before I die. I can enjoy life in the way I want to without worrying about if what im doing is meaningful or not

  • @lanaharris6338
    @lanaharris6338 Před měsícem +7

    These videos really go by so quickly

  • @TheThrongler9605
    @TheThrongler9605 Před měsícem +5

    Humans require purpose to survive. Without food, we would starve, so we must have hunters and farmers. So that our society does not stagnate and succumb to corruption, we must have scientists. When people get upset for one reason or another, they need a therapist. When they get sick, a doctor. Purpose is the only reason that any sort of society can exist.

  • @waystatus8945
    @waystatus8945 Před měsícem +3

    A Psalm for the Wild Built is one of my favorite books. Glad to see it getting some much deserved love here!

  • @BUGHUNTER6
    @BUGHUNTER6 Před měsícem +1

    Wow. This video, this story, this message you shared, it could not have come at a more fitting time for me. I am someone who views himself as a big creative guy, someone who used to set big goals for himself, dreaming about making this and becoming that. But now that I have creative work I enjoy, even if its not exactly what I envisioned... I feel relatively satisfied. I feel grateful for a lot of things in life. And yet, at the same time, I still feel like something is missing. This blissful nihilism hits very close to home and I have no idea what to do about it, or whether I should do anything about it. I get lofty artistic dreams, they pressure me to go after certain things, but then oftentimes I can't bring myself to do them. I often wonder if I actually want to accomplish these things, or that I want to want them. (Yes, I am a writer by the way haha)

  • @masonbrooks9379
    @masonbrooks9379 Před měsícem

    this is my favorite video of y’all’s yet. this is wonderful and beautiful

  • @MineMasta
    @MineMasta Před 29 dny +1

    I read this book for my first college semester in English class! It was such an amazing book and I cannot wait to read the second one! Definitely one of my most beloved books.

  • @axios4702
    @axios4702 Před měsícem +8

    There is this game I love, a gacha called Punishing: Gray Raven. In short it's about human cyborgs fighting a sapient robot zombie virus, in long it's a very long and complicated narrative with tons of factions and interweaving stories.
    My favourite faction, spoiler alert, is the "Awakened machines". That robot zombie virus arrived to earth when machines were in the cusp of achieving sentience, in the stories set before the outbreak and subsequent pandemic you can see, robots, androids and other mechanoids developing the first hints of a ghost in the machine. They begin to question their roles and existance, showing emotions beyond their programming but still not being able to fully grasp what being alive means.
    However this isn't portrayed like machines gaining sentience usually is. There are notable exceptions, but most robots and androids have no grudges against mankind, in truth they loved us. There are many examples across the game.
    The android nurse of an old painter learned to appreciate and value art, becoming his pupil and the leader of an entire sect of extremely passionate machine artists.
    A police cop absolutely adored his job and was proud that he had been entrusted with protecting the people of his city, and he gave his life to protect a little girl, fighting the virus with sheer will just long enough to get her to safety.
    An android built to be just the vessel of a mad scientist's AI wife and discarded for forming her own personality adopted that same girl and loved her so much she couldn't bring herself to harm her even after being reprogrammed by some bad guys.
    My favourite character is the first of this awakened machines and their messiah, the one they call "the Sage Machina". She is an adorable teenager raised by a couple of scientists like she was their daughter for an experiment. She adores humanity and everything they've made, specially videogames, films, comics, books, art and toys.
    The silent tragedy of that robot zombie virus is how it robbed the machines of their future, turning the nascent new species into mindless beasts, there is actually a heartbreaking scene on which a character trying to cure a bunch of people sees the memories of all the other infected and among those memories she can hear the machines, screaming that they don't want to hurt anyone, begging for someone to stop them as their puppeted bodies hurt their owners or the people the people they were made to protect.
    But with the rise of the Sage Machina there is still a chance, not only for the full awakening of the machines, but that they will share a peaceful future with mankind, or at least, part in amicable terms (the machines' plan B if there can be no peace with humans after the war is over is boarding a giant space ship and peacing out from earth)
    The whole narrative sorrounding the awakened machines speaks to me, I particularly love how the parents of the Sage Machina refer to the robots as their children, the way they mingle with the humans in the different stories forming bonds and families.
    It's what they are. If artificial intelligence becomes real intelligence humanity as a collective will have become gods and sired a new species. As their creators, as their parents, we must embrace and love this new beings and walk hand in hand towards the future, give them guidance and care we never received when we were scared monkeys unable to understand the world around us. And maybe, if we show them our best side, they may become better than us and achieve all that we never will.

  • @Magavi2031
    @Magavi2031 Před měsícem +3

    i would just like to say i love your videos so very much, im always eagerly awaiting the next, Its also very nice to play in the background while i work on other things. time really passed by while i was listening to this and your video about water ship down.

  • @julienotsmith7068
    @julienotsmith7068 Před měsícem

    Oh, the words about enjoying writing were words I needed to hear. Thank you. And thank you for such enjoyable illustrations.

  • @milesdoesfimstuff
    @milesdoesfimstuff Před měsícem

    Your channel stands out very clearly nowadays, it’s very refreshing to have a few channels like yours focus on making what you want instead of intentionally having short clips and bright colours to give the viewer the false enjoyment that keeps them there without actually giving them anything

  • @MaVerik1727
    @MaVerik1727 Před 17 hodinami

    4:28
    For the record im totally using that inciting event for a D&D campaign

  • @ArmanEmamian-vy1gh
    @ArmanEmamian-vy1gh Před měsícem +3

    Amazing video, as always!❤❤❤

  • @johntr5964
    @johntr5964 Před 19 hodinami

    Becky Chambers' The Monk and Robot Solarpunk books are a real treat! They are a perfect introduction for anyone who wants to get into Solarpunk. I'm immensely happy to see this hopeful movement expanding even more.

  • @suulacooeagles4226
    @suulacooeagles4226 Před měsícem +1

    Psalm For The Wild Built is one of my favourite books. Such a cosy story. Living in the moment and appreciating things and those around you, like the robot watching the Stalinists grow.

  • @Ryu_D
    @Ryu_D Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for the video.

  • @melkor6339
    @melkor6339 Před 29 dny

    How amazing that the same day you uploaded this, I began reading this series. I couldn't believe it when I began watching this and connected it to the books.
    Finished the books earlier and now enjoying this.

  • @CrispyGFX
    @CrispyGFX Před měsícem

    Beautiful as always.

  • @limitlesschaind188
    @limitlesschaind188 Před 28 dny

    This is literally what I needed right now, thank you

  • @samwiseraleigh7833
    @samwiseraleigh7833 Před měsícem

    This is the first video of yours I didn't want to finish... because I knew I *needed* to experience the original tale first hand. Thank you for informing me of this book! I'm going to order it at my local library tomorrow morning.

  • @bluesheepredanimationskind7690

    I really enjoyed this style of video

  • @TheLordBerger
    @TheLordBerger Před měsícem +1

    As SOON as Dex was mentioned, I KNEW where this was going.
    Great choice in book

  • @Sebstanchle-and-the-gang.
    @Sebstanchle-and-the-gang. Před měsícem +2

    these jet super deep nice job

  • @user-gz2nh7ic5i
    @user-gz2nh7ic5i Před 20 dny +1

    this was an amazing story thank you so much

  • @inxomnyaa
    @inxomnyaa Před měsícem

    I watch this on 3x 💜 keep up the great content

  • @denarisnoctem4562
    @denarisnoctem4562 Před měsícem +1

    I do love the way you tell a story.

  • @sirtree15
    @sirtree15 Před měsícem

    A beautiful story, thank you Tale Foundry

  • @DarkMagicianGirl0
    @DarkMagicianGirl0 Před měsícem +4

    I don't really know how to put this exactly but I will try.
    I feel nothing while also feeling just about every emotional beat possible.
    I feel like the story inspired me to go out and get things done now but also to at the moment take it all in at once.
    I feel very purposely driven at the moment but in the desire to see if purpose is worth being driven for.
    It makes me sad but moreso in a way that helps me understand that I am happy.
    I am calm at the moment but at the same time, a volcano, ready to emotionally explode (mostly in a positive but not entirely so).
    I want to seek change but can now understand that by doing so it is something we don't want.
    I feel like I fully understand the story while understanding that I actually know very little.
    Yeah so umm... I guess I will end it with this.😅 I am going to say through at the moments recollection of memory I have not been so divided yet felt more complete through a story than I am now.
    Thank you Tale Foundry and the team. It was amazing
    If the author of the story is not part of the team then many thanks to that/those individuals as well.

  • @isaiah9893
    @isaiah9893 Před 27 dny

    I'm glad my friend Noah doesn't take writing too seriously and doesn't write a multi-chapter very long by the way novel because he feels he has to he does just cuz he wants to and he enjoys writing.

  • @Helptosave-uc1pc
    @Helptosave-uc1pc Před 24 dny +1

    This should be a movie 👍🏾

  • @cybersearcher1041
    @cybersearcher1041 Před měsícem

    Such a beautiful story tale bot. Thank you all so much 😊for

  • @amandaofhouserobinson6707
    @amandaofhouserobinson6707 Před měsícem

    Wow! Loved that one! ❤😊 thankyou

  • @LostAmericanJ
    @LostAmericanJ Před měsícem

    Another beautiful story told in a beautiful way by a beautiful spirit in a wonderful machine, Talebot you really are a modern marvel of our time in story telling! Thanks for another great vid& story Tale Foundry!
    And Talebot...
    your just awesome my friend!
    😎👍×10,000

  • @dwyl183
    @dwyl183 Před měsícem +1

    "they just want to live"
    sounds a lot like murder drones

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon Před 27 dny

    Nice episode.

  • @WelcomeTheDamned
    @WelcomeTheDamned Před měsícem +1

    I never read solarpunk and yet you convinced me to try this one

  • @MathewSan_
    @MathewSan_ Před měsícem +1

    Great video 👍

  • @Casual-Sage
    @Casual-Sage Před měsícem +1

    Great story. The only part that isn't believable is when humans accepted something different & respected their right to live as they wished 😅. We don't even do that to each other

  • @Meladonessable
    @Meladonessable Před měsícem +1

    What do humans need? Everything;nothing

  • @Solarpunk_SciFi
    @Solarpunk_SciFi Před měsícem +1

    OMG yesssss, he covered the book I had heard about from Solarpunk Conference and knew I'd love, this is amazing!!!

  • @asliceoftea
    @asliceoftea Před 28 dny +1

    i cried a little when the. the crickets..

  • @nathancoomber7359
    @nathancoomber7359 Před 22 dny

    Incredibly deep philosophy aside robots in nature is such a beautiful aesthetic. Media like Horizon Zero Dawn, this and The Wild Robot just appeal to me in a way I can't explain.