The BIZARRE Pair Baby Doll and Killer Croc in Love is a Croc Batman

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  • čas přidán 28. 11. 2018
  • The BIZARRE Pair Baby Doll and Killer Croc in Love is a Croc Batman. At first the pair of Baby Doll and Killer Croc seems very bizzare, but as the relationship develops it makes a lot of sense. But does the story hold up to the other New Batman Adventures episodes?
    Originally aired on July 11, 1998.
    I breakdown and review the episode with a 60 second(ish) plot summary, my favorite moments, and what made this show so special. Watch til the end to see where I rank this episode in my list of favorite episodes I have reviewed so far.
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  • @Marsh388
    @Marsh388 Před 5 lety +600

    Funny thing, Croc was sick of that “baby doll” crap, maybe if she acted her age he would have taken her more seriously, not loved her, but taken her more seriously...

    • @Elly3981
      @Elly3981 Před 5 lety +135

      Killer Croc isn't really capable of loving anyone but himself but yeah, he would have taken Doll more seriously if she acted her age. Its funny Baby doll complains that people treat her like a child when she acts like one all the time.

    • @charlottewalnut3118
      @charlottewalnut3118 Před 4 lety +94

      Miss Elly To be fair it’s probably for the best that he’s in capable of loving her because if he did fall in love with her she’d probably die the first time they attempted to have sex as neither of them are particularly intelligent in their decision-making so she would probably fucking explode

    • @tizyman5582
      @tizyman5582 Před 2 lety

      @@Elly3981 She acts like that to mock the people that treats her as a little girl bitch

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 Před 2 lety +65

      @@charlottewalnut3118 Oh god, that image will torment me for a while🗿

    • @gabrielfrost9134
      @gabrielfrost9134 Před 2 lety +45

      @@zalabit927 lol ikr too much details. 😂

  • @fangsabre
    @fangsabre Před 2 lety +355

    I feel like this episode could've been better if they had either taken away the baby doll voice and mannerisms entirely or used them a bit more sparingly and given a reason for their use, like when she's happy she relapses into her old speaking patterns because that's kindof the only way she knows how to be happy. I think that could've made her whole interactions with Croc much better.
    Even just an interaction where he gets visibly agitated with the baby doll gimmick and asks her "why d'ya talk like that all the time! I know you're not a child"
    "I... dont know... I guess.. it's always what everyone wants me to do"
    Boom, sympathetic antagonist relationship

  • @wolffishelk4324
    @wolffishelk4324 Před 2 lety +189

    I love how in the episode killer croc I'd more "into" baby doll when she acts her age but when she starts acting like a kid you can see killer croc kinda get uncomfortable.

    • @russianbatman1982
      @russianbatman1982 Před 2 lety +50

      Croc ain't wanting to catch a case, or a bigger case than he already has.

  • @gallantgamer4728
    @gallantgamer4728 Před 2 lety +151

    Baby doll strikes me as one of those actors who got stuck in a role to the point where it develops quirks, ticks and even personality changes at least that was my head canon for why she always acted like a kid when she was affectionate with croc cause she was playing that role for like a bunch of years

    • @peachbunni3
      @peachbunni3 Před 2 lety +16

      I feel the same way too. Like, that was what she was accustomed to when showing affection or happiness. She was so used to being baby doll, having people say she was baby doll and being treated lesser than nice for it, on top of which the only joy she ever knew in her life WAS being baby doll. So her expressing joy/affection causes her to act out like her old persona because that's what she connects happiness to.

    • @goteamslugs
      @goteamslugs Před rokem +2

      @@peachbunni3 Makes complete sense.

  • @gendygoblin8391
    @gendygoblin8391 Před 2 lety +82

    This episode really shows how people will latch onto any similarity they have with another person even if they are terrible out of desperation

  • @Jester2415
    @Jester2415 Před 5 lety +293

    The main issue I have with this episode is that it feels so small. The theme of them being outcasts and persecuted by society is established at the beginning of the story yet they don't do anything with it. Robbing banks and a one-side love affair is mediocre at best. They should have gone the route of Lock-up and many Poison Ivy plots and gone after the "corrupt system" of Gotham itself... at least symbolically.

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 5 lety +28

      I think you are on to something that they needed some more depth to the story.

    • @samuelwilliams1619
      @samuelwilliams1619 Před 4 lety +9

      @@AndyKnode At least we got to see the sympathetic side of Croc in this episode.

    • @dariuswrongside5811
      @dariuswrongside5811 Před 3 lety +2

      Agree with idea

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před 3 lety +6

      Except the whole point episode was that the system wasn't as corrupt as it was made out to be.

    • @Night-Mayor
      @Night-Mayor Před 2 lety +5

      I would have liked more of Baby Doll's attempts to fit in and being denied in a quick montage. Turned away from a club, a screenshot of a dating app with no hits, cab drivers passing her for adult looking fares, and cops constantly stopping her and asking why aren't you in school. I think it would have established baby's frustration of being an adult in a child's body. We see here coming home looking depressed and worn down. All this leads her to watching croc on TV.

  • @burtonthegrape9217
    @burtonthegrape9217 Před 2 lety +46

    Baby Doll and Croc are the tragic lovers that you feel sorry for. I love the pairing because I feel like they can work if given the chance.

  • @Night-Mayor
    @Night-Mayor Před 2 lety +34

    I believe Baby Doll and Toy man might have been an interesting team up.
    I think Toy man would be envious of Baby's condition. He disguises himself as a child. While she is trapped as one.
    He would seek a way to take it from her. Coming up with a process he promises will age her to her mid twenties and transferring the condition to him. But in reality the process will kill her. He feels she doesn't reserve such a gift.
    The Batman and Batgirl stops the machine in time to save her. We see Baby exit the device as an adult but the process doesn't take. She shortly reverts to the age of a child again in tears with Batman and Batgirl trying to console her.
    The episode epilog shows Baby at The Wayne Foundation. The Doctors say they are looking for a cure. Bruce Wayne then opens a door introducing her to others with the condition. These children welcome her and we see her smile for the first time.

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +11

      That would’ve been very cool. I wish we would’ve seen more of the toy man.

    • @CardcaptorLiShowron
      @CardcaptorLiShowron Před rokem

      Well maybe, but you’re talking about the 1990s Toy man. The original Toy man didn’t even have a mask or dress up as a kid, but since Baby doll’s first appearance was the 1990s Batman I guess we can’t compare her to anything but the 90s.

  • @thenichollsworth
    @thenichollsworth Před 2 lety +57

    Another factor is Croc himself can't accept companionship at this point, nonromantic or romantic. We saw him sabotage his relationship with the Carnival sideshow in his second episode, and even if Mary had kept an adult persona the entire time He'd found some reason to betray her too.

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 Před rokem +7

      As dumb as the line was In suicide squad it’s basically the most blatant you can get with his character saying
      “They treated him like a monster so he became one” he doesn’t think he deserves to be loved because he’s been told he never should. It’s basically a negative feedback loop

  • @fredjones2170
    @fredjones2170 Před 5 lety +143

    I agree with you, I greatly prefer Croc’s redesign and voice in TNBA: He seems a lot more threatening, and while I think he was actually portrayed as pretty intelligent in BTAS overall (except for in Almost Got ‘Im of course), but the new voice goes a long way in selling that to us.

    • @itsBLX
      @itsBLX Před 4 lety +1

      Fred Jones it was Batman in almost Got im

    • @samuelwilliams1619
      @samuelwilliams1619 Před 4 lety +2

      Plus, this version is somewhat sympathetic which is how I like my Croc.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 4 lety

      Fred Jones well when wears the hat and trench coat he reminds of the Creeper from Jeepers creepers

    • @samuelwilliams1619
      @samuelwilliams1619 Před 4 lety +1

      @@srstriker6420 OK, then.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 4 lety +1

      Samuel Williams I’m just saying

  • @lynnboartsdye1943
    @lynnboartsdye1943 Před 2 lety +7

    Yknow what would be a more interesting pair? Babydoll and clayface.
    They’re both actors taken away from their careers by their conditions but contrasting with clayface being able to change his form while babydoll is stuck in one. I don’t see this being romantic for obvious and controversial reasons but they’d definitely have more things in common. Imagine clayface and her put up a scam where he shifts into what she’d look like without the condition and she speaks through it via walkie-talkie to get gigs.

  • @tancredelaywat442
    @tancredelaywat442 Před 2 lety +43

    This pairing will fit really well with Tim Burton by his love for tragic freaks and monsters figures if he was supposed to do another Batman movie ^^

    • @antonelamaggi2407
      @antonelamaggi2407 Před 2 lety +1

      How the first two movie of batman in 1989 and the second un 1992?

  • @sierrajohnson717
    @sierrajohnson717 Před 2 lety +10

    Maybe she does the baby thing bc that’s what got her affection all her life. She does it AFTER the start of the relationship, when she wants to keep him close, she speaks normally when visiting him with chicken/ first meeting, and that’s how she talks to normal people she doesn’t care about like the hotel guests. “I’ll do what they always liked and he’ll stay”. Shes literally never been with anyone, so doesn’t know that the childish thing is unattractive and hard to take seriously

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +2

      I think that is a very accurate take on it. It’s like she doesn’t know what to do in a real relationship and just reverts back to what she knows.

  • @alexlemonds2838
    @alexlemonds2838 Před 5 lety +53

    Fun episode, but I still wish there was another purely Killer Croc centric episode. Preferably one which delved into his backstory more. I've talked before about how I feel they should've tried depicting him in a more sympathetic way, highlighting his terrible childhood growing up as a carnival sideshow attraction & how cruel mistreatment from others lead him down a dark path. Croc himself in this very episode talks about being ostracized for his appearance, but, it's not enough. I wanted more.

  • @blazeswithwolvez7221
    @blazeswithwolvez7221 Před 3 lety +33

    I am unsure if it's intentional or was just on a whim when and how Mary Dahl presents herself. Not sure how much thought the writers put into it, but I find it interesting and I am scratching my head over how Mary presented herself to Croc initially as mature. When she met Croc, she was being herself and adult and explained her connection with him and convinced him. Then it was the whole baby act that weirded Croc out, later on. I understand it's her thing and she can't help herself, because that was her favorite time and when she was most happy, but... I don't understand how she didn't present herself to Croc the baby doll way at first.
    I imagine if it's one of those things where it's "look, I'm a freak, you're a freak, too" then she'd be in her freak mode from the start. And... if she wants to be taken seriously and seen as an adult, wouldn't she want to avoid the baby doll act, especially if she saw the adult act is what convinced Croc? If she has examples of her adult persona being successful why revert to baby doll?
    In being adult with Croc first, was it just a ploy to convince him then be "the real" her with her quirks in full gear later, like hiding at first? Or did the baby doll act just kinda come out on it's own? Habit? Did she feel a need to do it?
    What even is "the real" her. I feel like... Mary Dahl is the real real her. And Baby Doll is just an act, a character she played best and is most known for but ... what she wants to be, but only because it was when she was most loved and not because she wants to be a kid forever... so since it's what she desires, then the baby doll act is the "true her" in the sense that... I dunno... we could say a person who cosplays a lot who is in their element and most happy doing what they are doing, we could say that the cosplay is so much a part of them that the feat of them cosplaying "is me!! This is me, it's what I do" so its theb"real them" in that it what they like to do but it's still them playing fictional characters and embracing a fantasy and it's make-up and costume so not really them... I don't know.
    I think... most of Batman's enemies have a certain duality. Double persona or a seemingly contradictory aspect. Two-face being obvious. baby doll having 2 personas. Penguin being a deformed waddling side show freak, but speaks with hi-end diction. Bane being brain and brawn and with certain retcon, they incorporated dumb brute Bain into cannon. The concept is extended, frequent use of Venom has long-term effects on the brain and like steroids effects mood stability, testosterone and aggression, so depending on how the story needs to go Bane could be the tactical head of an operation or revert into a primal hulk rage.
    Hmmm... so I guess it's fruitless asking which is the real Mary Dahl, because even Bruce argues that the Darkness is the real him, yet it's only something he dips into.
    I don't know.

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 Před 2 lety +6

      Some people fall back to the moment that made them happy, this part of them is something they are very guarded about, so Mary most likely wanted to get comfortable with Croc before defaulting to Baby doll, hoping that Croc won't judge her for it.

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 Před 5 lety +48

    Doesn't croc by wearing a coat and hat remind you of the creeper from jeepers creepers?

    • @MrOrcshaman
      @MrOrcshaman Před 4 lety +7

      or what the teenage mutant ninja turtles wore to 'blend into society' on the surface, lol.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 4 lety +1

      Mr Orc Shaman well yeah but he looks more like the Creeper

    • @christopherallen3933
      @christopherallen3933 Před 3 lety

      @@MrOrcshaman Yeah, that's why he wears it.

    • @CheyenneGainer
      @CheyenneGainer Před 2 lety

      Jeepers creepers definitely

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 2 lety

      @@CheyenneGainer I thought so

  • @MsAlyssaB1
    @MsAlyssaB1 Před 3 lety +61

    If only her crazed persona didn't default to a childlike mentality, if she acted like a tiny adult croc may have taken her seriously. You can tell he's uncomfortable with the "baby loves precious" thing. The thing that always bugged me with Baby's whole story is that dwarf humans exist, if she wore make up and adult clothes would she really have received all the shit she did?

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 3 lety +29

      Yeah I think she kind of got stuck in that persona from her tv show maybe.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před 3 lety +10

      They little addressed that in her first appearance alyssa.

    • @peachbunni3
      @peachbunni3 Před 2 lety +18

      But if you notice, she did wear things that adults wear. Like make up and other things. Even styling her hair in a 'mature' manner. But she is still treated less than nice. The thing is, even when someone tries to appear more 'mature' or dress more 'mature', people might still see what's on the outside. Like your size. People usually seeing a few things on a person and assume everything about that person. It's human nature.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Před 2 lety +16

      Issue is she’s not a dwarf, she’s literally stuck as a child. She can’t put on a suit, style her hair right and appear like a serious adult like Peter Dinklage does, she’s literally stuck looking like a kid in makeup and her parents clothes if she tried that

    • @victormargraf7180
      @victormargraf7180 Před 2 lety +12

      It was the same situation with Gary Coleman from 1978's 'Different Strokes'. He was almost 30 when the show ended yet still had the appearance (and height) of a pre-teen boy and stayed that way until the day he died. As with Mary Dahl, people were still coming up to him asking him to say his tagline for years after the program ended.

  • @isetmfriendsofire
    @isetmfriendsofire Před 4 lety +29

    Didn’t like Baby’s new voice or Batman’s aggression in this one. Great animation, though.
    And the ending of this one doesn’t feel NEARLY as tragic.

  • @Johnsechuan
    @Johnsechuan Před 2 lety +9

    TNBA version of Baby Doll was sooooo adorable imo

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      Do you like this one better than the old design?

    • @Johnsechuan
      @Johnsechuan Před 2 lety +1

      @@AndyKnode personally...yes

  • @Brook11223
    @Brook11223 Před 5 lety +34

    The New Adventures of Batman of course is a continuation from Batman The Animated Series and the only difference they changed the animation style. The pairing of Baby Doll and Killer Croc was interesting because they both are characters where they don't feel accepted by the society. Baby Doll believes that herself and Killer Croc are kindred spirits and realizes that they share a common bond.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 5 lety +1

      Raghu Seetharaman what about penguin?

    • @Brook11223
      @Brook11223 Před 5 lety

      @@srstriker6420 The design of Penguin I didn't like for the New Adventures of Batman.

    • @rocketcon
      @rocketcon Před 5 lety +1

      They also changed some of the voice actors (Scarecrow, Killer Croc, Batgirl, etc), plus the New Adventures has a darker tone. They would never have been able to do an episode like Over The Edge on the original series.

    • @Brook11223
      @Brook11223 Před 5 lety

      @@rocketcon Jeffrey Combs voiced Scarecrow I believe for season and Tara Strong voiced Batgirl. In Batman TAS it was Melissa Gilbert and Batman Mr. Freeze Subzero it was the late Mary Kay Bergman.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Před 5 lety +1

      Raghu Seetharaman yeah I prefer the original because it's more supervillain tasted and also he looks like mr Burns cousin.

  • @RainePhoenix
    @RainePhoenix Před 5 lety +46

    This iteration of Croc is kind of a mixed bag to me. His redesign isn't particularly offensive (though the way they animated him at times was a bit odd, like when Baby Doll offered him a chicken and his eyes protruded from the sludgy tank; he looked like a goofy frog and was completely off-model), his new voice wasn't too bad, but I found that the actor portraying him this time around was a bit too hammy at times and he sounded very cartoony to me like some of the acting in the X-Men cartoon from the early 90s, which is not a knock at that show, but the voice acting was not quite of the same caliber that we'd come to expect from this and related series. I do agree that he does seem a little smarter than he'd been portrayed in previous epidodes with him. Then again, I never really got the idea that he was particularly portrayed as a mindless bruiser (the epidode "Almost Got 'Im" doesn't count because it technically wasn't Killer Croc). In his debut epidode, "Vendetta," his scheme to exact revenge on Bullock was pretty elaborate and he was portrayed as a genuine threat. And, in "Bane," he was able to give a pretty accurate description of his attacker, down to the detail of his accent and where he may have come from. This version of Croc isn't bad and I'd have liked to have seen more done with him in this series. I just felt that the way he was portrayed vocally seened out of place and a bit too over the top at times for the overall tone of the series.

    • @tayojones9460
      @tayojones9460 Před 5 lety +8

      He should have been more sympathetic. Killer Croc is very sympathetic in the comics, yet every batman cartoon portrays him as a dumb thug or a ruthless killer. Why can't we just get a sympathetic Killer Croc in a cartoon, is that too much to ask?

    • @RainePhoenix
      @RainePhoenix Před 5 lety +4

      @@tayojones9460 I totally agree. It's like they didn't exactly know how best to utilize him.

  • @soupermoviecritic8511
    @soupermoviecritic8511 Před 3 lety +8

    “Hit him with a rock!”
    Classic Croc quote

  • @dragonempress8367
    @dragonempress8367 Před 2 lety +6

    She can't find love because of her condition, it would be seen as pedophilic. Croc also has a condition with his scales, hence why they can relate to each other. It's still pretty tragic that she and croc can't have a normal life.

  • @MrOrcshaman
    @MrOrcshaman Před 4 lety +15

    I had mixed feeling about this episode. I loved the original baby doll episode, the ending of that one stays with me today, making it one of my top 10 episodes for the ending alone. I did like crocs redesign in this season, he seemed to have grown more intelligent.
    But the sluggish and overly simplified animation style of this season, and some of the interactions in this made me kind of forget this episode event existed sometimes.

  • @vickyb6943
    @vickyb6943 Před 2 lety +2

    I honestly remember watching this, I was probably around the age of 10-11, and it left a long lasting impression on me. I’m surprised that it’s recently been getting more recognition. It had a different feel to it, this episode definitely left me feeling more sympathetic towards the villain than in others.

  • @localretard3779
    @localretard3779 Před 2 lety +1

    “Hi I’m Chris handson why don’t you take a seat right over there”

  • @truestturtle3167
    @truestturtle3167 Před 3 lety +10

    I was thinking about this episode after I watched it recently and i think what made this episode so bad is the didn't go far enough with the pair up.
    For example, imagine if the episode truely did show babydoll finding that one truely good thing about croc. Or if croc was just using her the entire time like joker and Harley.

  • @darkminer14
    @darkminer14 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I always thought they would make a great pairing due to the fact they both were born with the conditions they are afflicted by (atleast in some versions) and they both have that level of understanding with one another.

  • @SK-ib5hi
    @SK-ib5hi Před 2 lety +2

    Killer croc: uuuuuuuh your baby doll thing is a serious turn off.

  • @Night-Mayor
    @Night-Mayor Před 2 lety +3

    I think another interesting team up would have been Baby Doll and Clay face. It would have been an interesting backstory that they worked together before her TV show. Before she was even diagnosed with her condition. They had a friendship. She wasn't such a diva back then. But was starting to notice she wasn't maturing. I think it could lead to an interesting story. Since both were actors.

  • @eldenlion5850
    @eldenlion5850 Před 2 lety +4

    In a bizarre way, this actually makes alot of sense

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      What do you think works best about the pairing?

    • @eldenlion5850
      @eldenlion5850 Před 2 lety

      @@AndyKnode The way I see it, they were both born with diseases that kept them from leading a normal life, people can't be around Mary because she looks like a child, and in a place like Gotham, there's likely not much there for kids to do, and hanging out playing ball with other kids would be trouble to because they'll inevitably grow up still, so it has to get pretty lonely. For croc pretty much the same except people would be in fear of him mauling them. To summarize their diseases keep them from being able to get close to others but it's the one thing they have in common, so they could understand each other on a deeper level.

  • @bluebowser3121
    @bluebowser3121 Před 2 lety +9

    I think the pairing makes a lot of sense. Both characters suffer persecution and lack romantic interest as they're unlovable due to their appearance. They are both villains / criminals too. They find companionship in each other as they have experienced similar yet different issues in life.

  • @blazeswithwolvez7221
    @blazeswithwolvez7221 Před 3 lety +6

    I mentioned it somewhere already, not sure if it was on your channel, but I'd like to see and/or might write a fanfic myself of Clayface and Baby Doll and might throw in Ventriloquist and Scarface.
    Clayface and Dahl would be such an interesting dynamic because they're both actors and went through the same experience of Hollywood and judged on looks and the rollercoaster of being wanted, unwanted having a high point of a career and then lose it. Clayface could be anything and it'd be cool for him to be anything for Dahl. Clayface seems to love acting. In the Arkham series when other Joker is revealed to be Clayface he said he agreed to do it because playing joker was "the role of a lifetime". Also, it doesn't seem super prevalent, but like most villains, Clayface sometimes makes puns or references associated with his gimmick. Like electricity powered villains go "here's some *stimulation* free of charge!" Clayface would say things like "you won't upstage me". Like Clayface is all about performance and the world of performing, Dahl would love it.
    Not sure how much Clayface would like Dahl, but since we're making it up and can do what we want and since Croc didn't work out, let's throw her a bone. Let's say Clayface likes her. What reason could there be? Well, again, being in the same industry, he could have worked with her once, maybe was a fan of her show, maybe loved the show, maybe loved her character and even if he doesn't like the Baby Doll act as a relationship he could be an enabler for her baby doll persona out of the nostalgia of loving the show. They'd probably be perfect together actually. She could play with the clay... that would be that start of a crime they do. Little girl walks into a bank with a can of "silly puddy" and bam! She throws it and it's really Clayface or a piece of Clayface that he controls.
    As far as Ventriloquist goes, I kinda just threw him in there. I guess the puppet and the "make believe" aspect. Dahl interacting with the puppet and willing to play along like it's real, maybe even Scarface personality using Dahl to animate the puppet. It'd be interesting if Dahl played with the Scarface puppet doing her impersonation of his voice and then all of a sudden his real voice comes out through her.
    Hmmm....

  • @AndyKnode
    @AndyKnode  Před 5 lety +28

    What is your favorite Batman Villain Pairing?

    • @JTISREBORN
      @JTISREBORN Před 5 lety +6

      Andy Knode I really liked Joker and Harley. I also get a lot of joy from Batman Forever where Riddler and Two face team up

    • @vincentfranklin17
      @vincentfranklin17 Před 5 lety +10

      Harley and Ivy, for me!

    • @Brook11223
      @Brook11223 Před 5 lety +13

      I would say Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn. That combination was just beautiful and they understood each other so well. Holiday Knights for sure was one of my favorite episodes in The New Adventures of Batman. Diane Pershing and Arleen Sorkin were just phenomenal.

    • @tayojones9460
      @tayojones9460 Před 5 lety +4

      My favourite pairing is Hatter and Scarecrow. They. Both manipulate the mind and force their victims to see things tgey don't want to see. Wish we got an episode with those two.

    • @bradmyers941
      @bradmyers941 Před 5 lety +3

      Scarface and Ventriloquist are great, don't know if that counts as a pairing?

  • @legotimefuntime5438
    @legotimefuntime5438 Před rokem

    Matt Reeves can incorporate their arc into the next ‘The Batman’ film. Baby Doll and Croc story works so well.

  • @samuriecooper1005
    @samuriecooper1005 Před 2 lety +4

    I kinda almost see it in mlp Cozy and Tirek but more of an protonicly friendship relationship.

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Před 2 lety +3

    Croc has been on the villain side for a long time he is more detached from the emotions than she is
    They both have a lot in common but are so different just like a normal relationship lol

  • @dontemorgan1517
    @dontemorgan1517 Před 5 lety +7

    I've question the new voice and his redesign but I guess he's been swimming in toxic waste which mutate him even further. This beck me the question on what happen to Baby Doll after this since this is her last appearance.

  • @Daniel.Belas1
    @Daniel.Belas1 Před 2 lety +3

    Baby Doll is a yandere before we knew what a yandere was lol

  • @noname-ip9xe
    @noname-ip9xe Před 2 lety +3

    she forced him into a "relationship" and batman attacked him.

  • @astalavista7251
    @astalavista7251 Před 2 lety +2

    "It was a BIG rock."

  • @Doodle1678
    @Doodle1678 Před 3 lety +2

    8:45 Well they are the Ninja TURTLES so they probably don't mind it.

  • @kaileydossett2152
    @kaileydossett2152 Před 2 lety +1

    dude, this unlocked a memory for me. i remember this episode

  • @hatefulidiot777
    @hatefulidiot777 Před 2 lety +2

    Clay face makes more sense since he can shape shift into a little boy for her.

  • @rosehearttoxic1691
    @rosehearttoxic1691 Před 2 lety +1

    This has been my favorite pairing for a while Harley Quinn and Poison ivy

  • @JYDY-if5rf
    @JYDY-if5rf Před 4 lety +5

    I'm glad baby doll turned against killer croc change sides and redeemed herself in the end

  • @NewYork975
    @NewYork975 Před 5 lety +4

    The original baby doll episode was top 10.

  • @Doctor_Odin
    @Doctor_Odin Před 2 lety +1

    It’s a really good episode and somewhat realistic. On another note this episode could’ve been a back door pitch for the Barbara & Bruce pairing.
    Barbara & Mary (baby doll) both have thankless jobs librarian & hotel clerk while also only being seen as kids despite being adults. (Babs early 20s and Mary 30s)
    Bruce and Waylon Jones/Morgan (killer croc) are “Career minded“ individuals that embrace their moniker instead of their actual names/identities.
    The difference in the pairing outside of the visual is the compare and contrast of a healthy maturing relationship between the bats vs the comedically juvenile and unhealthy relationship of the villains.

  • @arenzejeanette1120
    @arenzejeanette1120 Před 2 lety +1

    Killer Croc sounds a bit like if batman woke up after participating in a outdoor rave koncert wearing nothing but speedos during winter 🙊

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 Před 2 lety +1

    The real pairing that ought to happen is Baby Doll and Mad Hatter.

  • @skaven969
    @skaven969 Před rokem

    It’s only bizarre if you don’t feel like a freak and find love in a kindred spirit.

  • @soxpeewee
    @soxpeewee Před 2 lety +2

    Killer Croc is too angry to be anything other than criminal and knows he can't ever be part of normal human society. Baby Doll reverts to the child persona because Killer Croc doesn't reciprocate her love and needs a way to manipulate physical touch, etc. He is uncomfortable with her being a "child" and she uses it.

  • @onewingedangelsephiroth1561

    For unknown reasons I find it impossible to trust you 😂

  • @Bree420
    @Bree420 Před 2 lety

    AFTER A WHILE, CROCODILE DANG IT

  • @3912James
    @3912James Před 29 dny

    My 3 year old granddaughter talks like Baby Doll. ❤

  • @Blaklyon0
    @Blaklyon0 Před 2 lety +1

    Was this the last we heard from Baby Dahl? I wish they had a "where are they now?" For fictional characters...

  • @torytellstales
    @torytellstales Před 3 lety +5

    The creepiest characters are those two women kissing Croc, man some women do anything for money lollll

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 3 lety +2

      That't a great point.

    • @torytellstales
      @torytellstales Před 3 lety

      @@AndyKnode I'm new to your channel, love your videos 🖐

  • @iamsemjaza
    @iamsemjaza Před 11 měsíci

    She could have dressed and acted like an adult. Croc-bro just wasn't into ageplay and she couldn't respect that.

  • @bunjichronologic5865
    @bunjichronologic5865 Před 2 lety

    That mix of cartoon and real life was unexpected. Had to rewind 3 times

  • @RJ_Cormac
    @RJ_Cormac Před 5 lety +3

    This was just weird, it belongs towards the bottom, I agree with your placement.

  • @punipunipyo
    @punipunipyo Před 2 lety +1

    Rule 34 is going to have a field day with this one…

  • @anakinskywalker5795
    @anakinskywalker5795 Před 4 lety +3

    Why does baby doll tnba looks like Angelica pickles from rugrats?

  • @anakinskywalker5795
    @anakinskywalker5795 Před 3 lety +3

    Why does baby doll look like Angelica pickles? For her redesign I mean.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean Před 2 lety +1

    I hate that they changed Baby Doll and Croc's designs. I hate ALL the design changes, but this one was particularly bad.

  • @goteamslugs
    @goteamslugs Před rokem

    She wanted to be seen for who she was, not for her appearance, or what she did.
    Just like tall people get tired of being remarked at for being so tall. They want to be remembered for who they are as a person. Not their height.
    I prefer Baby Doll's new look compared to her original.
    I had an interesting thought, ordinary people's skin replicates damaged skin cells from UV rays overtime. Which is why elderly people look and function the way they do. Does hypoplasia merely prevent the body from growing, or does it actually prevent (or help prevent) these genetic mutations?
    Furthermore, in the horror movie "Orphan", Esther wore fake teeth, which implies that some adult growth features do still grow - such as teeth. Because Baby Doll/Mary Dahl's voice isn't childish when she talks normally, has her body developed puberty?
    UPDATE: A far more compelling plot would be if Miss Dahl found someone who felt like an outcast for some reason (technically this could even simply be viewing life in a unique way) but was afraid of getting older because of deterioration . . perhaps someone nearing twenty-three.
    Mary hasn't lost too much of her humanity, it seems her heart's in the right place.
    I know blowing up a nuclear power plant would have likely injured many people, but she probably felt like everyone never took her seriously, so she decided to take her revenge on everyone - going out in a bang.

  • @xxsilentreatmentxx
    @xxsilentreatmentxx Před 5 lety +27

    This is one of the worst. All the life these two characters previously had is sucked out by bland redesigns, vastly inferior voice recastings and flat forced motivations. This was one notch above a random episode of the old Ducktales.
    If anything they should have teamed up Baby Doll and Calendar Girl, two women with body image issues from the entertainment industry who love revenge.

    • @johnnyfive222
      @johnnyfive222 Před 5 lety +1

      xxsilentreatmentxx yeah this isn’t one of my favorites as a kid or adult. But one thing I did like in it is we got to see more work between Batman and Batgirl. I don’t know if Bruce Tim was experimenting with the idea of them in a relationship at this point which is why dick isn’t there. It’s really interesting to compare Baby Doll and Crock to Batman and Batgirl. Almost like two separate couples on two different sides of the law.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před 3 lety

      I think a little to far on the last two.

  • @vincenthammons6705
    @vincenthammons6705 Před 2 lety +1

    baby doll is such a tragic character feel really bad for her

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety

      And that’s really what made her stories so good! Where do you think they could’ve went with the character after this?

  • @Renkencen
    @Renkencen Před 2 lety +2

    Is it weird that this is kinda "canon" in one of the elseworld comics? In Batman: White Knight, when the sane Joker round up Batman rogue gallery, you see Babydoll (also first time appearing in any comcibook at all) alongside with Killer Croc? Mabe it was coincident but it was later on in that comic, when some of the villians got sweep up from a tidal wave of water, Killer Croc dive in to save Babydoll!

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      Wow that is really cool, I hope it was deliberate that is a great nod to the show.

  • @bjarnivalur6330
    @bjarnivalur6330 Před 2 lety +1

    So, did they, like, do _the thing?_ ... you know, ... the _thing_ that people do when... when they, uhh ... the, uhh... the thing, you know?

    • @JeanetteIsabelle
      @JeanetteIsabelle Před 11 měsíci

      Her small size could make physical intimacy uncomfortable or even painful.

  • @rosehearttoxic1691
    @rosehearttoxic1691 Před 2 lety

    Their relationship works in theory

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians Před 2 lety +2

    I absolutely hate killer crocs new design he looks so menacing before

  • @stw3art14
    @stw3art14 Před 5 lety +15

    Orginal Croc is better than New Croc for one thing New Croc doesn't have that Old Croc does....."I threw a rock at him!"

    • @travismiller4320
      @travismiller4320 Před 5 lety +1

      Stw3art14 Batman said that, not Croc

    • @stw3art14
      @stw3art14 Před 5 lety +2

      @@travismiller4320 Was it Kevin Conroy saying that? No. It was Croc's voice actor, making it his quote

    • @travismiller4320
      @travismiller4320 Před 5 lety +2

      From a certain point of view, I look at it from the story’s point of view. It’s Batman’s quote, and his choice of the closest he’s come to being “Almost Got” since he told the story. You may have your view, I will choose mine.

  • @vincentfranklin17
    @vincentfranklin17 Před 5 lety +2

    Ms. Dahl was really annoying in this episode. She was odd , but very sympathetic in her first appearance. The only thing I really liked was when she hurt that jerk at the hotel that she worked at.

  • @Count1jt
    @Count1jt Před 5 lety

    I am not totally sure if I should agreed with you on the ranking. I will put this way at the bottom of my list because this episode is way too bizarre for me to watch. Anyway to answer your question I will have to say the best pairing will have to be is none of them because each villians are unique in their own way.

  • @edwardtyler1456
    @edwardtyler1456 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel better if it was baby doll and scare face thats a villain couple right there

  • @willowdebruin3343
    @willowdebruin3343 Před 4 lety

    My favorite villian paireings are two face and riddle and joker and harlequin

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians Před 4 lety +1

    Poison ivy and Harley....

  • @azazelgrigori9244
    @azazelgrigori9244 Před 2 lety

    She's creepier than Joker.

  • @meltaylor7984
    @meltaylor7984 Před 2 lety

    The title of this video was hard to read. It is like one of those awkwardly phrased things that leave you feeling confused lol. Though the video is great.

  • @Zhello79
    @Zhello79 Před 2 lety

    Killer Croc: Tick Tock feed the tiny croc.
    *gives Baby Doll food*
    Baby Doll: Seriously? I asked you steal chicken wraps, not kids meal chicken nuggets. 🤨
    Killer Croc: 🙄
    Batman: I don't blame Croc, others would make that mistake and you both are noe going to jail 😎

  • @HSOP-OFFICIAL
    @HSOP-OFFICIAL Před 2 lety +1

    Call me sick, but given both their romantic challenges, Croc probably has it better then baby but still, I feel like they would probably be the "best" pair for either of them. Croc definitely has other options, but what other chances dose baby have? I don't support to kind of relationship in real life, but in the twisted writing of some bat man stories, I can't think of anything better for the two of them specifically.

  • @kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144

    Ivy and Harley is the best pairing for villains hun

  • @jaredreisinger6745
    @jaredreisinger6745 Před 2 lety

    I don't even well crap using how he looks as it defense but he's been given other times they just be around people who are looked at as freaks but he's his way his wicked ways always went out and he does something cruel

  • @SarcasticAriel
    @SarcasticAriel Před 6 měsíci

    part of me kind of wishes that the episode shown Croc or another male character dating Mary but maybe he gets stigmatized for dating someone who we know as the audience is a adult but the average civilian in the series wouldn't be aware of her condition and would only make Croc even more of a outcast.

  • @owasumi6151
    @owasumi6151 Před 2 lety

    But bat's, she's over 30!

  • @andrewmcclendon8337
    @andrewmcclendon8337 Před 2 lety

    I would like it better if they was a couple because I know what it feels like to be different than most others people i think they would make a most great powerful couple together as one let's make a shout out to the DC developers too make their love 💘come to life!..

  • @terminatorofen8807
    @terminatorofen8807 Před 2 lety

    Now wait a second. Is the character development of baby doll is what lead to the community development of the little space people??

  • @tyrongkojy
    @tyrongkojy Před 2 lety +2

    Yes Croc was abused, shunned, taken advantage of, and grew only knowing fear and hatred.... but he's ALSO a cannibalistic murderer. Might he have turned out differently being raised better? Probably, yeah. Sadly, he wasn't and yeah, that makes him about as evil now as one can get. Joker doesn't eat you.

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      Excellent point. All things that I think make a great villain! Who do you think is the most vicious villain?

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy Před 2 lety

      @@AndyKnode Joker's up there, sure, but he doesn't EAT you, as I said.

    • @ethankiger4385
      @ethankiger4385 Před 2 lety

      I mean he doesn't eat you unless you are all of China.

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 Před rokem

      I think Mr. Freeze technically has the highest body count, with 13 in the movie Sub-Zero.

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy Před rokem

      @@Blokewood3 That we see.
      He also doesn't EAT you.

  • @antonelamaggi2407
    @antonelamaggi2407 Před 2 lety

    ¡You' r tell my that you don't have "Mad love" in your 5 favorite episodes! Not even in the 10 top?

  • @cagethelonewolf
    @cagethelonewolf Před 2 lety

    mostly likely due to them both being diffrante, no matter what with how they look they could never go straight never be able go back to a normal life. all the have is comiting crimes or hideing away

    • @JeanetteIsabelle
      @JeanetteIsabelle Před 11 měsíci

      If Mary is willing to accept child roles, it would be easy for her to pursue a straight path.

  • @JoshuanKnode
    @JoshuanKnode Před 5 lety +8

    This was another one I dont remember. . .but I like it shows that Killer Crock is the selfish type. Kinda thinks the world owes hin somthing cor how he's been mistrated and he's definately more about those dead presidents than any friendship or romance.
    Plus. . .Killer Crock can get two girls to go out on the town with him and I have trouble getting a date?! Where's the justice in that! :p

  • @Night-Mayor
    @Night-Mayor Před 2 lety +3

    I didn't like this episode. I wasn't a fan of her redesign. She look more like a little person than a child. The voice actress just wasn't as convincing as the original.
    The only thing I did like how she was trying to move on with the hotel job. Her granny glasses, librarian hairstyle and blouse with mini pencil dress. Were her attempts at trying to be an adult, even if her body refused to age.

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I wasn’t crazy about most of the redesigns in the new series. Were there any that you liked?

    • @Night-Mayor
      @Night-Mayor Před 2 lety

      @@AndyKnode croc's and scarecrow's had a darker feel to them

  • @theoceansdepps5012
    @theoceansdepps5012 Před 2 lety +1

    But I’m a gen z I was born after the 90s

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      That's ok it's close enough.

  • @tfordham13
    @tfordham13 Před 2 lety

    Well both something wrong with them both have a conditions

  • @Glittersword
    @Glittersword Před 2 lety +1

    Actually she does age. She just doesn't mature.

    • @AndyKnode
      @AndyKnode  Před 2 lety +1

      Good point. kind of like me.

  • @sherlychristabelkwok6300
    @sherlychristabelkwok6300 Před 2 lety +1

    dude even this is my fav ship
    me : im not gona give it up....

  • @HoneyButter_Biscuit
    @HoneyButter_Biscuit Před 2 lety +1

    Didn't Croc get the death penalty for murder?

  • @trigunlover11
    @trigunlover11 Před 5 lety +1

    Baby Doll and Killer Croc sitting in a tree...? Ah, well...I can see why Baby Doll would fall in love with Killer Croc, but why? He's a murderer who uses people and nothing else to kill! I feel bad for her, almost.

    • @mikitamiridoka3990
      @mikitamiridoka3990 Před 5 lety +3

      Baby Doll kinda felt empathy for Killer Croc because of what he said, so quite relate to him and thought two people who are too different for this world.

    • @charlottewalnut3118
      @charlottewalnut3118 Před 4 lety +2

      Tayla Drago Hester Actually killer croc mostly just keeps to him self he doesn’t use people because people generally betray him the person you’re thinking of is the joker

    • @trigunlover11
      @trigunlover11 Před 4 lety

      @@mikitamiridoka3990 That she did...

    • @trigunlover11
      @trigunlover11 Před 4 lety

      @@charlottewalnut3118 True, so true.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 Před 3 lety +1

      Did pay attention to the review dinger.
      This and previous episode shows croc using people.

  • @Kruppt808
    @Kruppt808 Před 2 lety

    No, this was very stupid episode. 1st it didn't look or sound like Croc and Baby Dahl should have been a 1 episode villain. I'd rather seen Lyle Bolton or Maximilian Zeus than her.
    Sometimes I question your taste in these things where you didn't like the new Scarecrow but did like this lol

  • @ghostfang1255
    @ghostfang1255 Před 2 lety +1

    Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy are the best pair