EVE Online - Starting a first private structure
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- It's time to build back up, carefully, with a first new structure.
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I was flying:
[Occator, Meizu Kho's Occator]
Centum C-Type EM Energized Membrane
Centum C-Type Explosive Energized Membrane
Damage Control II
True Sansha Multispectrum Coating
Explosive Energized Membrane II
800mm Steel Plates II
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
For those of you who don't know, there was a time a few years ago when it was possible to own a POS (player owned station) and the solo Eve player was an absolute possibility. The POS could be attacked, though the defenses were pretty nice and if you did receive a war dec, you could either beef up the defenses or take some structures out. You would still lose your POS, but it wouldn't cost you what the current stations do. Also, it was possible to use your POS in many different ways, all in one protected station. It was quite an enjoyable playstyle, and one that I dearly miss. Risk was not gone, it was simply manageable.
my solution is simple...its called "CORP HOPPING" so when you get a highsec wardec, there is a 24 hr period before they an attack, so you start a new corp and trasfer ownership of all assets to new corp , leave a lonely alpha alt as the ceo of the old corp which now owns nothing and truck on. Search me up in eve, Cephalosa Galactica and General Ichiro Fukamoto, my corp history looks like am a corp thief but its really me corp hopping out of wardecs for 10 years.
It's worth noting that you can see non-public structures in brackets using the sensor overlay. You don't need to use D-Scan or Probes to see them and fly to them in space. Basically anyone can see these structures in space, no way to hide them.
But most of the people doesn't know that I bet so now delete your comment you are breaking opsec (jk)
loved the pos and way less expansive and faster to setup and break down.
i used to play as a nomad, fly to a system , drop pos, mine a few days did explorings etc , break up and go to a new system
They really do need to come up with an upwell structure similar to a POS.
There are several things I like about the POS system. They are actually scary to be on grid with even if no one is home. They are tucked away on moons, not cluttering space and overview. The ease of just warping into the structure and hanging out in space rather than docking and undocking seems minor but if you do it dozens of times a day it makes a big difference.
Glad to see you're getting back into structures after the Dital massacre! While I hope you're left alone to pursue this experiment in peace, I'm afraid the very nature of Eve will mean that a wardec will follow shortly. If you ever set up in a wormhole I'm sure there are many many people who'd join you - myself included.
Great to see you doing industrial stuff again with structures. Hope you have peace and no decs. Edit: I sure wish Eve was more solo friendly. I'd love to come back and play. Once you have a structure you're a target for the griefers, though.
Exactly why I stopped playing the game took away any reason I had to stay as a solo player.
@The Macker @Zman - & I dont say the following as an insult ok I actually am legit asking, but if you types of players truly wanted to play solo like that.. Why dont you play on the test server? There is absolutely nothing stopping you from going on the test server and playing Eve right now exactly how you want to play it with noone to bother you its literally so carebear friendly that players will literally get perma-banned for shooting at you without your express permission even in null sec! The single semi-logical counterpoint you might have to that would be what, "but on the test server everything in the economy is worthless and unlimited.." Yes! Exactly! What do you think would happen to the Live server's economy had risk been removed from the equation?
@@SargonOfAmerish Hey Sargon. :) I left before the test server was up for more than a short time and only when CCP gave invites. That's actually tempting because I'm sitting on 60 billion plus and it just didn't make sense to earn more isk because I didn't have anything to spend it on. I don't think anyone is asking for a risk free environment, just a chance to contribute without succumbing to the overwhelming evil that is in the mind of some players. I like your suggestion, assuming someone can actually build up some structures and log in to find them there the next day.
@@SargonOfAmerish yea right I am going to pay a game $15 a month so I can play on test server. I like small Corp and solo game play and before CCP destroyed small Corp ownership on structures, we had 5 and we were a very profitable small industrial Corp. and enjoyed playing the game and did not mind paying $15 a month for the privilege. To all the elitist griefers left in the game who think their way of playing is the only way to play, it’s all yours now I am done.
Hey @delonewolf. Coming from somebody who makes a decent amount of his ISK through evictions. I'd heavily suggest against a C1 HS unless you have a good amount of friends. People like me would wait for you to setup and then hit you a few months down the road. You'll wake up to everything reffed and a door stopped static. If you want to minimize the chances of you being evicted I'd suggest moving into something with a LS static or a NS static. C3's might work better for you. Just a suggestion!
im new to this game but watching your videos has taught me a lot of useful things, thanks man
Delonewolf back at it again ! Love it ! I had so much fun in Dital ! Took a little break found out Provi fell from s3v sovereignty I'm with Signal Cartel now ! Having so much fun they have the same feeling of the Dital days mining moon pulls free boosting fleets from other corps ! Currently im farming sites in a C13 :)
@delonewolf I've lived in a C1 and a C2 and please take my advice on this. A C2 with a high sec static and a C3 static is much much better than a C1. With a C2 you only need 4 battleships going back and forth to close the hole so that you either can mine by yourself or get the preferred C3 or high sec static that you want. In a C1, if you don't like your high sec or you want to close holes to mine, you need to have 8-10 Cruisers/battlecruisers that are 62 million mass ships going back and forth to close it. Most likely you won't have that many ships on the field at any given time which means that if you have 4-5 it will take you about at least 10 minutes to close a hole and with 2-3 you're looking at 15-20 min per hole factoring in the polarization. It's very common on any given day in WH space to have 3-4 random connections spawn in your hole. So, in that C1 you could look at more than an hour to close all holes before you can start mining or do what you want to do. C3's also makes a lot more isk if you want to rat in those and with a C2 you can bring a praxis or dommie into in C3 which are cheap ratting ships. If you get a random C3 connection in your C1 you can't bring anything above 62 million mass into it which makes ratting very difficult and costly. If you don't want to rat I would still choose a C2 but then with a C1/HS static so that you increase your chances of having the high sec connection that you want.
private structures still show up on the sensor overlay and are colored blue and you can warp to them normally
Also May the 4th be with you
I hope this particular station is a decoy to your viewers and you actually have another secret station deployed at an undisclosed star system location.
Delonewolf already had public structures for several months.
@@thomasvonbaum5667
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In my experience in Gallente space, most War Dec's against you are the occasional shakedown or if you roam a bit and attract attention.
2:50 No need to dscan or probe to find a private structure. I had a mission 1 jump from Yona just 5 minutes ago. I was in my barebone corvette, doing a delivery mission from the career agent in Couster. I decided to take a look at your structure, to see how things were going. All I did to find you was to open the Solar System Map from the Probe Scanner window (Alt+P) . As you were not a single structure in an area, I found you when hovering the mouse over a certain gate. Then right clicked your structure and warped to 100km.
Now, I just found this trick about 1 week ago as I was paying more attention to the map as I was doing some exploration. We can assume that those who makes wardec a part of their play time does that regularly. You could find a way to bookmark a spot at en extremity of a system where there is nothing 15+AU around and decide to setup your structure thinking no dscan would reach you. But no matter where you are, your structure will still appear in the Solar System Map, without need to scan or probe.
My bad, just found out you can access the Solar System Map directly (F9). I also see many people mentioning the Sensor Overlay. in the comments. Not sure if that is a different name for the same thing., unless I'm blind I can't find it anywhere Anyway. I'm a noob and was able to find you easily and warp to the structure directly, that was my point.
And... noob self finally found the Sensor Overlay... It does not show up by default on any of my account though. I had to click the little "burger" menu at the bottom right side of the HUD (Options). Then need to enable the Display Sensor Overlay. I'm now wondering if that was a default enabled feature in the past, and then made an option later.
Werent there changes announced to Orca and Rorqual in this quadrant? Announcement for the new quadrant is already out but what happened to these? Was i wrong?
Btw Good luck on your new try with a station! Lots of Love from Nullsec.
I think CCP is still holding on to a lot of update news.
Not announced for certain but we can almost certainly expect a nerf to excatavators and mining drones. For the Orca, it may just lose some of its mining drone bonuses.
If you anchor a structure, eveyone can warp to it from the dscan window. you dont have to scan it with probes. It will apear on eveyone dscan once you are in range.
"In range" is the key. The best defense is to go to a system that is 120au plus across, plenty of space to get lost in. Also best to not open a market.
Cheers I'll be watching this one play out, great vid m8.
I have 5 or 6 structures currently in the game. I've also lost 3 if I recall to other players over the years. I have both HS and LS structures. The one thing I do is anchor them in a holding corp so my main corp doesn't suffer a war dec. Kind of surprisingly, CCP lets you start the holding corp on an alpha and transfer the structure to that corp.
There is no need to use probes or D-scan to find structures in a system. The Structure Browser neocom tool shows all structures (NPC and Player) in a system/constellation/region (even those you do not have access to) and even allows you to filter by services available.
Structures will show up in the left click menue. But is a private structure worth the cost for a solo player. Look forward to your follow ups, as always.
May the 4th Be with you Mr. Wolf
Good luck, sir!
I really enjoy your videos. I see you have recently moved to the station here in the video, CreoDron. I'm a new player and have just finished all the New Career Agent missions in Trossere VII - Moon 7 - University of Calle but my Home station is in Bourne. All of my assets are at Trossere though. Just wondering if you have suggestions for a good home station? Any particular reason why you're here now in CreoDron? Thanks!
The first structure we actually set in Drone region from the new Sation-system was a Keepstar... with 3 ppl it took us kinda 1 Month to get the required Stuff and in total about 40? Days with Blueprint crap. btw it was when they released these new shiny stations :D More then srs Buisness elolel
also, in order to have a market usable, youll need to have anchored an Azbel or a Fortizar.
Large structures support market rigs, medium structures do not.
dammit...you know what will happen...stay mobile
Yup, I keep my entire flotilla mobile and never have a reason to dock other than to sell and compress and keep moving.
I want a structure eventually though. I found the perfect system lmao and bought an existing station from goons. After the 100b mark then I'll turn it on and become a nice lil trade hub lol
I think making a video about a structure that you want to keep "under the radar" is a bad idea :D
I thought this same thing. We all know just where to find it now.
If you want to keep a secret open the doors and windows. If possible, broadcast on PBS. NOBODY watches PBS.
You do know he’s been playing much much longer than you probably have right? I’m sure he knows what he’s doing
Congrats on your first structure👍
I thought keeping stuff in the strucute is never a big deal anyways because of asset safety?
you need to pay % of items value if you want to retrive them.
Oh good another core up for grabs
Do you have a video for a POS from start to finish on how to set up and run?
i would like to join your allience is that possible? vary cool video btw
this is cool thanks
Was always wondering about that too honestly, im just on the Way to check how easy it is to find - Can at least confirm your Station dont shows up on System Info or in the Search.
allright, thank you for the info.
@@delonewolf Okay thats bit lame, just dropped out combat Probes to scan it down - Then i saw it just shows up on the system map already.
Litte bit testing more it seems one combat probe maxed range gives you a list of them and you can even warp to them not on 100% - So as long you know what system its easy to find..
@@theoterion1089 private structures do show up on the sensor overlay and are colored blue, just like how anomalies are green and signatures are red
you can compress that ore ..and do more stuff with it :D
Plex .vault 10k ..noice!
This is after "starting", you already sourced and built the citadel.
What ship should I use to launch my citadel
whats is your structure fit best for athanor u think?>
When you anchor ur refinery can there still be other structure anchor to that moon??
only one refinery can mine the moon but you can put other structures on the grid within the rules of distance between objects.
how to setup a solo corp ? do you have a tuto ?
Can you tell me: why would anyone reprocess in athanor when there are public, rigged, tataras available throughout new eden?
you still save the tax and distance could be a reason, for now i use it for compression though.
@@delonewolf you dont save tax, because you need to pay for fuel in your citadel. But ok, whatever reason it is to have private citadel, as solo, you are losing isk on it. In my oppinion it is not worth it. Only valid reason to have citadel as solo is for production, since you can choose system with lower industry index and you can rig it for things you want to build. In that case you will be able to build more efficiently.
Hope it works out for you.
i wouldn't do it right now. cost is doubled for medium structures and mods are about double now (weapon systems, services etc) and they're laughably easy to blow up. just sent someone 1.5 bill and say you set up a structure (don't do it!)...same thrill, less time.
The ship I have right now keep saying that it doesn’t have enough space
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you can hide a station? i didnt understand that is that even posible?
you can't really hide it, but if a player doens't have docking access it doesn't show up on the overview.
@@delonewolf unless you add private structures to your overview... like people looking to wardecc do.
Why not set up on a Moon for moon mining???
Still waiting for DeLone Wolf shirts to come out.
Delong 😅
@@ReactiveTraction 🤣🤣 I edited it. But that was funny. That would be a great eve name.
I love all these people trying to tell you things you don’t already know lmao.
Hello from Azer!!!
First :D
i give it 1 week of operation XD
RIP
lol 4 jumps away from me couster
Step 2: get war-decced.
This doesn't actually show u how to start building your own...
Making a video about it does defeat the whole purpose of attempting to stay "under the radar" I hope you realize... :p With that in mind, it is VITAL that you both recruit some people with the know-how and preferably with some experience in defending against wardecs, and have you and your existing members create and train characters (if they do not already) who can do a variety of PVP (You will need things like logi and E-war and players who can fly battleships.. and no just bringing out your mission runner fits will not translate well at all when engaging in PvP combat it is an ENTIRELY different animal, one which regardless of how adverse you may to it is something you will need to learn up on if you want to be able to do these types of things and not instantly regret them.) Given how many people have already seen this video I wouldn't be all too surprised to find your corporation/alliance already under a wardec, but if not I will be contacting the CEO of the owner corp (which I'll assume to be you) with additional info as well as a proposition you will want to consider. I wish you the best of luck. :)
He’s not gonna want to do anything with you’re noobish self. This dude knows 100x the things you know about the game lol
@@versacetudo9243 *your as in; "your structure no longer exists." xD
@@SargonOfAmerish if I really cared to fix an autocorrect to you then damn I would be living life wrong. You’re not shit in eve noob 😂😂😂
@@versacetudo9243 Oh I recognize that name now you were for sure throwing salt in some other eve channels why are you so salty miner?
This guy is far beyond your level.
I don't understand guys I see no structure here... xD