X-Men VS Street Fighter - Why were people OUTRAGED!?
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2023
- In today's video, we look back at the history of Xmen vs Street Fighter and why it caused Outrage. Join me in this remake of a juicy subject I visited in 2019. New Script, new edit, new voice-over! Enjoy as we analyse the history of the Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation and Arcade versions of the game.
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One of the best arcades at my local movie theatre back in the day. They really need to make a “vs” collection
I wish but I doubt it will happen. Disney is suck a d company since mcu is so big now
Definitely but they probably need permission from Disney marvel
I have been screaming for a vs collection for a while now!
Y'all think we can hashtag it into coming out?
@@MrGeyon1977 unfortunately probably won't happen 😂 depends on if they ask marvel Disney
Xvsf is where I met my best friend. He and I met bc the game was 50 cents to play, and we played gambit and wolverine. We beat like 20 people in a row! I'll never forget it!
He passed away 2 years ago. Every time I see someone talk about this game, I remember how we met!
Thanks thgm!
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
❤
You should get XvsSF, beat game with top score and put your best friend's initials in it! If u hadnt done it already👍👍
Long live your best friend
Outraged?! I loved this game when it came out. It was an amazing arcade game experience I played it so much back in the late 90s.
Same here,I don't remember no outrage myself about this game at all...
@@llnemesisll7129 The home port on PS1 not existing and then being incomplete..perhaps but the Arcade version was well liked by anyone I saw in Arcades. It paved the way for even bigger crossover games. Capcom probably could staggered out their releases a bit more, but the wasn't an issue of quality for most part.
😂 Watch the whole video first. He explains the outrage.
@@maforo85 I don't feel like outrage was ever the case, more of a buzzword for clickbait purposes.
@@maforo85There was no outrage. Top Hat Gaming makes misleading titles like this
It's wild that Street Fighter Alpha 2 was the first home system game where people could play Akuma without a code. Before that, he had been in 4 games as a hidden character.
Man, the announcer and the music in this game was so awesome.
So I had this game on PS1 and I spent literal HOURS playing it solo cause I didn’t have many friends. One of the things I learned was that you could super jump right over Apocalypse’s giant hand and fight him from the RIGHT side, thus rendering his drill arm and stomping entirely ineffective. You had to be careful about your positioning though- if his drones caught you, you could take some serious damage.
While I learned the hard way that the PSX version was actually missing stuff the AC version had it didn't stop me or my friends from playing the game on PSX nearly every day in the summer of '98 as a kid. The title was def a must have for any kid who grew up with X-Men TAS and all the SFII media around during that era.
Having some of the voice actors from the X-Men animated series voicing the characters in the game will also be another sweet highlight
This is the first time I ever heard of any outrage towards this game. It was the most popular at our arcades when it came out.
That intro to X-men vs street Fighter was epic when i first watched it on the arcade
The hours I put into this game back in the day... the true OG crossover game!
Moment of silence for the sega saturn and this amazing home port.....the world didn't deserve you Saturn, and you were gone far too soon 😢
Exactly 😢
Saturn had the best versions of Alpha Era Capcom
@@MartezAnims r.i.p to the console wars and to the days when Sega used to innovate
nah dreamcast port was the one to have, Saturn 2nd sure...
@@tylerbacoka4248 everything was better on dreamcast
I love this game. After so many years I finally got it a few months ago. It sits proudly in my sega saturn collection. Not only is it my grail item in my collection, my friends and I play it to this day. Thank you for your excellent coverage on this masterpiece.
It's a crime for not having Gambit in the original X-Men Children of Atom
They should put Gambit on Wolverine's roster spot who deserves to be a secret character.
Why?
Because logically: he has a healing-factor, his claws are unlockable and can end fights in seconds, he is Akuma's worthy opponent in the Marvel Universe.
*"BERSERKER BARRAGE!"* One of my favorite quote from Wolverine
I loved this game!!! I thought Rogue,actually being able to absorb the other characters abilities was insane. Though Cyclops was my go to,Sabertooth was so cool. That was before he killed Birdie(his side kick) SMH
It was Creed's son who killed Birdie
Birdie!
-Yes boss?
People were mad? At X-Men vs SF?
I was thinking the same. This game was great! we loved it!
We really need more things created from The X-Men Animated Series. It's seriously the greatest depiction of The X-Men EVER! There is so much potential that could be utilized from it!
It's funny the Marvel series on Disney + all totally suck compared to X-Men the Animated Series that you can stream on the same service. There is a good Marvel series on D+...it's just 30 years old.
X-Men Evolution>
Xmen mutant apocalypse on snes was pretty great. Hopefully with the new 97 cartoon there might be interest for new games
I remember first seeing this as a kid at my local roller rink. My jaw dropped. The huge sprites, smooth animation, flying in the air, Wolverine fighting Ryu. wow. I remember just watching the demo screen over and over since I only ever got like a dollar to play. Usually fired up Area 51 as well lol
I'm surprised Capcom never made Apocalypse a playable character in any games. They could have made him smaller and let that gigantic size Apocalypse his Super.
I’m curious about the outrage,I was a teen in real time and we absolutely loved this game.
There was no actual outrage. Don't take the exaggerated headlines of Top Hat Gaming literally. Just watch the video if you like his character. But, he is still a journalist like Kotaku members. Expect buzzwords like outrage for clickbait purposes
Generally, Top Hat Gaming takes the mentality of a 2023 Twitter user and applies it to classic era games like this. Then he makes video titles, "there was outrage! Mass protest! Global Warming because of this game." These Buzzwords get you to view the video.
Long story short, journalism is dishonest and exaggerated
@@sleepshouter6569 ok he's nowhere near as bad as you're making him out to be. I mean comparing him to Kotaku is just insulting.
Nah, no outrage, just clickbait.
Brings back memories. I remember picking up the Saturn version about two weeks after the Japanese launch and played the hell out of it. I'm looking forward to when you cover Marvel Superheroes vs Street Fighter.
Me in 1996: But they are superheroes. With superpowers. They would slaughter the Street Fighters.
That was true.
But Professor X injected us Street Fighters with Mutant-DNA to upgrade Hadoukens and almost every other special & super move for us to help face against the Apocalypse.
This was literally my favorite arcade game as a kid. I used to dominate with wolverine and charlie or ryu. Kids would line up trying to beat me for hours, even wanting to fight me lol. My biggest streak was like 25 wins. Good times
Mt brother and I spent our allowance money on Marvel Superheroes Vs Street fighter for Ps1! Such a great summer!
Maaaaan, some great memories 🔥
This baffles me why it caused outrage. Because in all honesty, it was the birth of an epic crossover of fighting games. I love it.
Did you not look at the video, he said why. We had the botched psx version after learning it was supposed to be able to switch.
It caused outrage because THGM gotta clickbait. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@@billcook4768 Its not clickbait, the psx version did make people mad back in the day.
@@Raytheman581 it’s clickbait, he didn’t say it was the PSX version in the title, and he knew a good number of people wouldn’t guess that coming in
@@cody32390 I mean, I guess? But I wouldn't call that clickbait, the title doesn't have to state that. The majority of people that know about x-men vs SF know about the wack psx version.
A clickbait would be having that title and then not touching on the subject of it, or pulling a bait and switch, which he did not do. He talked about the outrage did he not?
Being 10yrs old and seeing older kids play XMvsSf at the arcade was a moment. I wasn’t any good but I’d play when I could. Memories
Brings me back to mall arcade days and skating rings.
Nice one, Good Sir. I remember that other Capcom games with the Tag feature came out for the Playstation without the ability to make tags. One night during a lunch break at work, I had acquired Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter & Darkstalkers 3 (Vampire Savior: The Lord of Vampire) and played the latter more than the former on the Playstation. I would have had the Saturn versions but the Saturn was discontinued in mid 1998 here in the states. BTW, picturing Lady Decade in Rogue cosplay.
What filter is over top some of these? Some of the stuff like around ~5:30.
5:40 what is that upscaling shader you're using there?
I loved this gamw. The fight with Apocalypsis was something never seen before and you always saw people gathering when someone was able to fight him
In the past exclusivity was mostly due to crippling limitations in hardware, nowadays exclusivity is just deliberate.
Love the content as always. Love old school beat em ups and fighting games 👍
Could you do a Psychic force analysis? It was a favourite of mine in my 20s but I seem to be the only person who remembers it's existence.
Love the content, only found you a few weeks ago and I'm getting through the backlog lol loving every minute.
Psychic Force was amazing! Me and a friend of mine played it way too much and we were the only ones who knew about this game... which kinda sucked for us.
I had a Sega Saturn rather than a PlayStation wand up getting a PlayStation later but had Saturn just had better games I feel like they would have been alright.
The Saturn was better than the Playstation when it came to 2D games. That's why Capcom didn't wanna release X-Men vs Street Fighter on the PSX at first.
I never forget walking through the mall in Hammond Louisiana as a freshman in high school and hearing ARE YOU READY TRUE BELIEVERS!? 😮 I was drawn like a moth to a flame 🔥
I still bought it back in the day anyway. :P
I remember this and still don't understand why fans would get mad about anything outside of cash grabs, poor releases, and gambling.
The 90s was street fighters golden age for content. In the early 90s it’s Street fighter 2 and it’s various versions. Mid and late 90s it was street fighter alpha and it’s various versions
Do anyone know who to use the level up power up in the arcade? What buttons to push?
Loved this, thank you. So for my part: Only one thing really bothered me that evolved from these games, as it changed comic book "reality" as well. But over the years, I've also concluded the change is for the better, even though many artists don't abide by it: these games ended up making the Hulk "smaller" than Juggernaut (when initially Hulk was same size or slightly larger in cannon. That said, I think it would work better if artists actually did abide by this change, at least some occasions.
I remember when this hit the Arcade in a Mall I worked at. At first I didnt believe my Friend who told me about it. The idea was so crazy I never thought it could happen. During my Lunch Break I ran down to the Arcade and could not believe my eyes.
I never played this game but it looks like a lot of fun.
I played X-Men children of the atom on PlayStation and Street Fighter Alpha 2 and 3 in the late 90’s early 2000’s and loved both. Man I miss those days!
Awesome reviews and historical information
Keep it up !
X-men vs Street Fighter is my favorite from the vs series. Even out of the Marvel vs Capcom games.
I hate how they decreased the X-Men characters, by the time of Marvel Vs Street Fighter 😔
Hey bro, I love the xmen content! Nice to see someone who played the same stuff.
How are the graphics this good? The intro looks so clean!
Could the Switch run this game? In all it’s arcade/Sega Saturn glory? A Vs compilation would be awesome.
Great Teddy Long quotes :)
Marvel Super Heroes vs Street fighter suffered the same fate of Xmen vs Street fighter as far as the cuts they had to make. It's was pretty sad for the Psx version
And Marvel vs. Capcom
I have fond memories of this game on PlayStation. Never knew the arcade version had full on tag battle.
I picked up the import Sega Saturn version at EB back in the day and was blown away by how amazing it was!! My friends and played the game to death and I was able to keep my Saturn going with other imports at that time.👍👍👍
I had Saturn Vampire Savior (Darkstalkers 3) and it was basically a next gen system because the graphics/animation were so far beyond what PS1 and N64 could handle. If you could get over the 3D obsession of the late 90s. the Saturn was doing miraculous things. The 2D games on DC and PS2 were no better than Saturn w Ram cart. I didn't get Street Fighter Alpha 3 on Saturn until years later around 2004 but I genuinely think it's the best version of that game including arcade and Dreamcast. IMHO games like Vampire Savior, SFA3 and these Vs games are the best looking/playing games of entire 32 bit era, more every year as the 3D games of the era age so poorly.
@@caseyhayes4590 I 100% agree with you! 👍👍
I remember being amazed when playing the arcade back in 96 , I bought the ps1 version when it released in June 98 , I remember I couldn’t wait for the ps1 port to come out (I was young) , for me the ps1 version was excellent, finally having the game in home!! Excellent memories 😊😊😊 , did not care of the defects the port had , back in my era games never where arcade perfect 😢
A lot of times whatever you play the most seems amazing. I played SFII on SNES to death so I think it's as good as the arcade even though I know that's irrational. The Saturn got beat to death that its multi-platform 3D games weren't quite as pretty as PS1, so it makes sense for Saturn fans to point out how much better 2D fighters look on Saturn. Wipeout and WipeoutXL are still really fun on Saturn the same way your XmenVsSF was fun on PS1...but the gaming media in the US went totally ballistic on tiny details comparing the 3D games. The Saturn with the RAM cart is pretty much arcade perfect on Capcom fighters way up to a game like Street Fighter Alpha 3 in 1999. PS1 was an epic system, but that generation should have been more of a three horse race than it was in US, it's a mix of dumb choices by Sega and also hype for PS1 that got rolling.
I remember finding this game in an arcade. I was amazed by the sight of it but I thought it was too difficult and that two quarters to play for minutes was asking a lot. I was trying to figure out what was the most fun to play and possibly beat. I did just enough on it to get a feel for it and decided maybe later.
It's absolutely insane this game isn't available on modern consoles.
The arcade cabinet of this game had the biggest screen ever made with a big chair
All those years, I’m still stuck at 29 wins on survival, even made my own Ryu combo you won’t find in a game mag. Wouldn’t mind a collection of all the past games, makes some mechanic adjustments, make doom, magneto and thanos available on marvel superheroes, marvel vs street fighter and MvC without needing codes, stuff like that. It’d be awesome and super nostalgia
Not to mention the absurd loading times on the PSX version while the Saturn version had virtually no loading whatsoever. Still, I logged hundreds of hours on the PSX version simply because no one had a Saturn. I was able to play the Saturn version at a little game store in a Seattle suburb for a week or two before the clerks were tired of my friend and I showing up to not buy games and stopped letting us play the import version.
I played Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter in the arcades at varsity and loved it. When I went home during a break I found a copy of Xmen Vs. Street Fighter being sold in a CD shop. The same shop was also selling a copy of Metal Gear Solid as well but I had only enough money to buy one game. I was aware of the fact that MGS was a great game but I loved my fighters and went with XvSF instead. You can imagine how I felt when I discovered that the game I bought did not have the tag feature. At the time I couldn't understand why. I was so disappointed. Make things right Capcom, make a collection of the Vs series of games.
I’ve played both the hell of both XvSF and MSHvSF on the PSX. As a kid/young teen, I still enjoyed it. I didn’t complain much, because I didn’t understand the much needed crossplay feature.
Now as an adult, the PSX version is to be remembered both as horrible, and at least to be grateful that us poor folks at least had a PSX to play this game when we were not near the arcades.
Outrage??? I remember on a Royal Caribbean cruise we went to the arcade and heard the attract mode in the corner. As soon as we saw what it was we freaked out seeing our favorite X-MEN and Street Fighter.
Is this a re edit of the last X-men vs sf video or new content on it ?
Re-edit, re-voiced, script finessed. So can't claim its brand new, but everything has been redone.
This was one the best fighting games of the mid 90s I wish Capcom would make a sequel
Capcom made sequels.
@@megamanxhunter 🤦🏿♂️ I'm referring only to X-Men vs Street Fighter
Seriously, every game that has a tag team option needs to have Teddy Long pop up on screen and say "listen up playas, you wanna settle this, well we're gonna settle this right now with a tag team match! with the winner going one on one with da undertaker!"
22:35 totally spot on, and I bet all these gaming journalists were part of the crowd whining for a Playstation version
I remember Gambit still being able to chain his royal flush in the PS version, which could take out even a blocking opponent with full health. I pissed off my roommates in college doing that lol
X-men vs Street Fighter. It feels like Go Nagai’s robots pitting against Yoshiyuki Tomino’s robots under real human appearances.
That HD quality looks amazing they need to re release all the series
I miss this and all the games before marvel vs capcom.
Children of the Atom, Marvel Superheroes, Street Fighter vs Xmen and Capcom vs Marvel
Needs to be a Collection for consoles
ASAP
Gaming journalists had a pro-Sony bias, even then. First they complained the game was over-saturating the fighting genre. Then, they were outraged when CAPCOM said it would be SEGA Saturn exclusive due to the hardware. And finally, they were outraged when the game couldn't be ported accurately. I mean, what?
The mediocre port couldn't possibly be the fault of Sony & the PlayStation's 2D hardware & RAM limitations, right? 🙄 Gimme a break!
Was obvious the moment they brung up Tekken 3 😅
Bought the saturn just for this game. Game was so awesome.
I went into X-Men vs Street Fighter hard in college. Still one of my favs despite it's flaws. To this day I own the JP phoenixed CPS2 board and an original scratched plexiglass marquee. ;D
Knew exactly why people were outraged per the title of this video, and didn't need 24 minutes to confirm. That being said, this video is decently made! Make a video about Norimaro next, since you opened this can of worms ;D
A guy at my school had this imported on ps1 and I was blown away. Hadn't played SF since SF2 and this game cranked up the SF power level to 11. Loved Ryus big ass hadoken and his plasma beam super. Got it for christmas a year or two later but rarely played it with friends because 2d games were out of fashion then. Everyone played the latest 3d games and the Dreamcast was like 1 year from release. Played it like crazy by myself. Great game.
This remembered me an arcade place that has an arcade that says is for kof, has a paper with the specials of the stret fighter alpha and the game inside is an x-men fighting game
Child "Mom, can we have xmen vs street fighter?"
Mom "sweetie, we have xmen vs street fighter already"
Mom holds up PlayStation 1 version.
GREAT SHOW MAN..... love it
When I first heard about the game I thought it was a kinda silly idea (despite loving Xmen CotA). Then I actually encountered it in an aracade and my opinion changed significantly for the positive. I was very proud of myself for getting to Apocalypse on my first try.
I have this game in an arcade 1up MvC collection, Sega Saturn, as well as my modded PS3 and Vita.
I remember the first time playing this as a kid when it came back in 96 and 97 I was seven at the arcades I was like, only get one round
I need this remake this was my first favorite fighting game as a kid and something I was good at
Didn't you do this one already?
I had that imported XSF on Saturn with the expansion cart. It was absolutely perfect. I played the later Playstation version. It was trash. PS1 was NOT a good 2D game console. But this game was such a joy. I'd say my favorite of the series though is Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter.
I’m sorry, but I remember buying this game and being excited!
I had no clue of the comparison or lack of frames with the PS version.
These magazines were haters.
*A Japanese SATURN was the way to go back then! Stinky bad Play Station copy?* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
The more Top Hat Gaming videos I watch. The more I realize the importance of reusing assets is vital for gaming companies.
X-men vs street fighter had the best music next to the original street fighter 2 and marvel vs cap on. Seems like capcon forgot to add good music in the later titled with accepting. Of street fighter 5
The first time I played this at the arcade and did the Ryu and Cyclops tag super my mind was literally blown.
It was a good game but each franchise has so many characters they could have taken their time and made a bigger roster.
These titles blew me away what games were becoming and they aged like fine wine, I can still stare at this art for hours and love it. Sad unfortunately it seems the 2D fighter genre peaked and never reached that level again. Capcom and Marvel would make millions if they did remaster to day of Capcom Vs Marvel 2 with 4k HD sprites. Except they should dump the 3D backgrounds and do the traditional 2D pixel animated backgrounds from the previous titles.
I recall this game being THE talk at school. Nobody was outraged at all. The controversy is a retroconstruct.
This is one of a good few games that I was happy I owned a Saturn for
"UNCCANY" always drove me crazy
I think the biggest outrage was that Japan had all of the Capcom fighters while North America and Europe were left out. Which was a huge blow for Sega Saturn owners
Wolverine, war machine, gambit. Unbeatable squad.
i used to sit in the arcade at the bowling alley and at the mall for hours upon hours playing this. i remember getting it on ps and being disappointed. ended up getting a dreamcast just for this game. and had to buy the controller adapters to play with my ps control on the dreamcast. i won 3 tournys on this game.
The legendary handshake