Canon 5D CLASSIC VS CANON RP | image quality | usability
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-really enjoy your real-world assessments. Just bought the RP and loving it.
thanks so much! glad you enjoyed it!
The final image was taken on the Canon RP. The Bokeh lights in the foreground was from a waxy-leaf bush that had sunlight sparking on it and I used that as a foreground element, either camera could have taken this picture easily.
Its a huge difference in my opinion. The canon rp always has a color tone scheme added to the pictures, whereas the 5dc ones are always contrasty, natural in color. But you are right - either of the two couldve taken this shot. And thats the point. Thanks for the vid!
Very useful exercise for a novice like myself - many thanks!
interesting, I picked the 5D classic as the horse was well separated. I guess that it all came down to lighting in the end, the magic of photography.
@@davepastern yes this was a difficult question really, the side lighting creates a lot of shape, it would have been easier if i could have taken a photo on the 5d to compare and youd see the difference then more.
@@MartinCastein yeah, but photography doesn't always work that way Martin. The image does test us - and make us think, which is what it should do. Too many people are captured in the gear side of things. I know a friend's husband who probably has 20k of Canon gear and doesn't use any of it (R5, R6, bunch of lenses etc). It drives my friend (his wife) absolutely crazy. I'd love some of his gear and would use it 100%, but he is on good income compared to me and can afford to throw money at gear. I have to work very hard even for bargain budget gear.
The colour science on the canons is fantastic. Less tweaking compared to others. The photo of the horse is superb. Well done.
Great insights, thanks Martin!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Martin, thanks for a thoughtful review. I've had the 5D for about six years and always find myself coming back to it -- always amazed at the sharpness and color of the files. Been following your reviews back to when you did the 40D, thanks! I think the final photo was the RP due to the color cast . . . Keep up the good work!
Thanks Doug, wow so its been a while! Thanks again !
The fact I couldn't tell which camera took the last picture really proves your point about new vs. old!
OMG!!! It's nice to see you here in youtube Sir Martin!!!! I remember the days when I have lots of questions and you answer it very quick. Stay safe!! My hero, Sir Martin! The best!!
Hey I remember you! Great to hear from you I hope you are well. Still going everything will be here on CZcams I think now
Thank you for the video. You always inspire me to shoot in 5D more and more!âïžđž
Thats great to hear thank you!
Great video Martin, very informative. Was of great interest to me as I,m a new 5D classic owner, and so impressed by the results so far. As a hobbyist photographer, and my main interest don't require speed, the 5D suits me down to the ground. My first taste of digital was a Nikon D200, and couldn't get on with the colours, looked unrealistic if that makes sense, greens in particular. So now shooting with the 5D like a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work, and fabulous end image and my money is on the RP, because of the colour cast.
Thanks Leslie glad you are enjoying the 5D thatâs great to hear. đ
Stunning stuff!
The last image is a masterpiece, regardless of the camera. I will vote for 5D.
Thank you Victor thats very kind of you!
5D I think!
@@MartinCastein Superb photo. What post edits did you do please?.
I have both of these cameras. The 5D classic was my first camera and is the camera I learned on. I love that camera. The RP is a great walking around camera, and overall a great value.
Totally agree!
The last photo is actually very good. You're a real deal, sir.
A big THANK YOU, Martin, for this video!
Let me elaborate a bit for the audience: looking for decent information about the RP and down-to-earth review, I stumbled upon Martin's channel. Next thing you know I binge watched his videos about the RP, 5D, 6D, D700, etc.
I asked him 'Well, what about a comparison: RP vs 5D. The most affordable FF dslr vs the most affordable FF mirrorless?"
This was just some days ago and here it is - not just an answer, but actually a full video with some marvellous examples in the process of comparing the two great (each in its own way) cameras. As a proud owner of the 5D I can say that I will never part with it, but I can't wait for some decent offer to get my hands on the RP, pair it with some nice manual lens and let that zebra highlight focus capabilities & articulating screen do their magic.
I am so glad I subscribed to your channel. Thanks again!
Hey no problem glad to have you aboard đ everyone asking for 6d vs 5d now đ€Ł guess I will make that too! Take care and thanks for subscribing
Thankyou for sharing this Martin!
The images you provided are truly stunning, please can you compare the 5D to the 6D when you have some free time?
The last image is simply beautiful, my guess would be the 5D.
Keep up the great channel
Thanks Chris, yes I will make this video I have had 3 requests for now so will make in the next week or two :)
interesting, I too have both these cameras, for me the 5d always makes portraits look great, the detail seems way above what it should be and I never have to push files post, for reliability and ease of use the RP is king, great small package, excellent AF, these cameras are great, that's why I am not letting them go.
I am struggling right now because as much as I love the functionally of the mirrorless cameras they all have a sort of digital look to the files that isnt what I was used to coming from my 5d classic and my 5d mark 2. There seems to be a loss of 3 dimensionality as well. I shoot sports with my 1DX and when I switched to my R6, Im not as happy with the files. They look more like video frame grabs than pictures.
That was an excellent video, world-class work and information. Your subscriber base should be much larger, and I am sure it will be sooner than later. I think the images from both cameras were excellent, obviously far far more credit to you more than the cameras. As for the final image? I am thinking it certainly could be either camera, and I would not be surprised to be wrong in my guess. But I am guessing it was taken with the 5D classic, however I would not be disappointed to be wrong, but I would be happier if I were right. I have not looked at other comments or answers so my guess is unbiased.
Best wishes! Fingers crossed!
John thats too much praise! thank you so much thats really nice to hear, im glad you liked it. Not going to say which camera it was yet. Will in a few days probably. Thanks you again :)
Thanks for yet another enlightening lesson, Mr. Castein. If anything, with this video it is quite clear that beyond the tools, it is the ability and taste of the photographer what really counts. I am a lucky user of an old 5D Classic and I must say that there is something special about this camera. I have a lot of gear and in the end I always end up going back to my 5D with just a nifty fifty and it always makes me pleased about the results. Iâve seen your videos about the similarities with the 6D. I see some minor differences in the colour science of both cameras. I was considering purchasing one but I wonder whether is worth it having the 5D and with no complaints about it.
its the closest you will get in what is effectively a fairly up to date camera. I think its close enough that you would probably use the 6d a lot more than the 5d, though i wouldnt sell the 5d as it has that magic.
Beautiful photo at the end! IÂŽd guess it was taken with the 5d. I still have a 5d, mainly because my wife loves the files that come out of it. In my opinion itÂŽs so hard to use that itÂŽs only good for still subjects that do not move. That said, it was the 5d in 2005 that made me finally give up film and go digital and I used multiple 5d bodies for years to shoot weddings and everything else. And it worked! :)
This video has definitely got me considered selling my RP in favor of the 5D. Thanks for the video
Noooo keep it! Get the 5d as well. They like to keep each other company. đ
you don't need to sell a $1000 nice little FF camera to obtain a $150-200 5Dc :) like Martin pointed out - they do keep each other company. you know - one for portraits or just standalone shots, and the other for everything else :)
@@MartinCastein I'm back again. I've sold my RP around 3 months ago and it's was the best choice in my opinion.
The 5D was significantly more fun to use in all situations, and I was generally happier with the files, as they didn't need much of any editing. I didn't need video at all either.
I paired the 5D with a 50mm and it was amazing, and I also tried the 35mm f/2 IS USM, and they fit perfectly. The character of those lenses also work significantly better on the 5D rather than the RP.
The only real thing I miss from my RP is the better screen, as the 5D has a terrible screen.
@@TrueKyanite im glad you found the right camera for you now i know the screen on the 5d is bad but the sensor is the best!
Very interesting. I think the 5D has now become a bit of a "specialist" tool because it does have some quality or tactility in its files that no other camera manages. It's a bit like Leica (if I can take your unlikely comparison and raise it!). There's something about a Leica image that's unmistakable.
I think another thing going for it is the fact that in its day it was built as a flagship model. This is far from being the case with the RP and again I feel the quality of that "intent" is palpable.
Edit. Sorry, forgot to vote. I think you shot the last frame with the RP.
Thanks Rasheed I agree with you, at the time Canon was trying to pull users over from film so they worked on the sensor to appeal to them which shows in my opinion, thanks again :)
it wasnt really Canons Flagship Model. the Flagship was the 1ds or 1d
Flagship? Over priced
Iâm doing most of my work with a Hasselblad H2D-39, but I love my 5D Classic and how it renders the colors. I also own a 5D MK2, but most of the time I just grab my 5Dc
Having owned both of the cameras up until recently having the dreaded mirror issue in my 5d, I can fully agree with everything you covered, the 5d has that magical look that brings your images to life with little processing needed. I think the last image was taken with the 5d looking at the pop of the image. My 5d replacement will be very welcomed.
Thank you Darren I hope you enjoy it!
Did you get rid of the 5D? The mirror issue can be repaired at home. In fact mine fell off when I was travelling through the Thai countryside and I was able to repair it with supplies from a village shop. CZcams is our friend! đ
P. S. It's been several years and the repair has held.
@@RasheedKhan-he6xx thanks for your message, I did try the repair but focusing was never the same, for the price of a used one in UK ÂŁ150.00 I can up one with the fix already applied by Canon.
@@darrendavis927 yes of course you could. Fair enough. I didn't have that option at the time but also I'm generally the sort of person who fixes and keeps things far past the point it stopped making financial sense to do so!
Wow, beautiful images. Off topic, do you prefer the RP over the EOS R? I know youâve owned the EOS R before? Does the RP have better SOOC images?
I slightly prefer the eos r straight from camera Iâd be happy with either the r has better battery life. Buy whichever you are more drawn towards đ
This was the video i needed! I own the 5D and the limitations on ISO are what are driving me to upgrade. I want to get into faster moving wildlife shots and i just cant get the 5D where i want it. Ill never get rid of my 5D though, landscape shots are amazing with this thing! The fact that i couldn't tell in the last photo you shared is what sold me on the RP. Thank you sir!
Fantastic looking images Martin, and a superb comparison between the two cameras. I'm recently experiencing a similar scenario with my old Nikon D3 that I'm getting back into. There is certainly something special about the older tech, with regard to their sensors and processors, and the final image they present. Also the use of a big optical viewfinder, always gets me going. To be honest, I love my RP, but still haven't completely gelled with it yet, mainly due to the dynamic range approach being slightly different to what I'm familiar with regards to the Nikon. That certainly, isn't a camera fault, but me, adjusting to a different manufacturer and technical approach.
With regards to the these comparisons.
The last image I think, is from the 5D, as it has a particular look to it. But (A big one at that) I've managed to get certain images from the RP that look just as blistering as the D3. When I scrutinize my results. I realize it's my approach to my settings and exposure that ultimately give me what I'm looking for!
On a footnote to the above, I've recently purchased an old Olympus E-P1 (Had one 10 years ago) for my Grandson, and I've been able to extract files from that, that equally match the D3 and the RP. So it just goes to show, It can certainly be down to your approach (and maybe the lenses) that can really dictate your results, plus I suppose the emotional feeling you get from that particular camera your using. Sorry Grandson, I'm keeping it, and I'll get you something else :)
Great work again Martin, and keep up the engaging videos and content.
Kind regards
Gav.J
Thanks Gav, great to hear from you again mate, yes the D3 has something special too, these cameras are really worth owning, i find i need to own several cameras because i like different looks from each of them. Im going to be using my nikon d600 a lot more soon as well and i have an old nikon d60 with a ccd sensor i will use a bit too.thanks for your comments again buddy.
Will be interested to hear your thoughts on the d60 as I just pickled up my old d40 again!
ill get it charged up and give it a go soon i think.
I wasn't able to find a video where the viewfinder is shown. Until now every viewfinder I looked thru was quite disappointing in terms of dimension and eye relief. How does the RP perform in this regard?
Just got my first Canon ff yesterday; the 5D. 1800shots on the counter. Good times.
Nice!
Having both of these cameras, I have to agree with you, in that the 5D has a certain pop to it that the RP lacks. But itâs subtle, and I couldnât tell from the last picture (watching on my iPad in 2k resolution) which camera it was taken with. I guessed RP but literally itâs a guess. I think I have a 50% c hence of being correct. I use my 5D for its more filmic aesthetic, mostly as a street camera with an old EF 28 mm f2.8. and I love how skin tones and shadows come out but the RP is easier to get exposure right and is more often the one I use. Old gear may be outdated but good equipment is still good equipment.
Thanks yes I think the skin tones and rendering are better in the 5d sometimes it doesnât show as much especially on CZcams. Thanks for your comment đ
Cool video. Final image was the RP, I'd say. Newly subscribed and looking forward to seeing your other videos.
đ thank you!
whenever i come back home and download the pictures of my 5D, looking at them without any edit, they just make me happier than any other camera iÂŽve tested
Same here Rodrigo!
Great comparison.
Martin, excellent video... as a 5D Classic and a 6D Classic owner (I guess the term "Classic" should apply to the 6D1 as well) for me it was very easy to spot which file came from which camera, the greens on the 5D always look more blueish that is why the color contrast vs the brown horse... In the RP shot the grass blends more with the horse. As you have mentioned, Canon move to a more earthy brown palette in all their cameras, that is why files look as if they were taken at the golden hour.
If the successor of the 5D is the 6D, I would say the successor of the 6D is the R6, not the 6Dii nor the RP.
I have a chance the other day to do some casual tests with my 6D and my cousin's (also 20mp) R6, and the raw files from both look pretty much identical, the body is like a little 6D, but of course, is way, way more expensive. Since I don't do any video, I wouldn't spend $2750 for the mirrorless perks but the same IQ as my $410 6D.
I would love to see one of your comparisons between the 6D and the RP -or 6Dii- IQ.That would be interesting.
Hi Ricardo, yes your logic makes sense with the successors for each camera. That might not be what Canon intended but its the real world result. I think the 6d output is better than the RP. I bought the RP because I also need video, i dont need amazing video just enough to make some youtube videos and the RP is fine for that. In other regards its good enough for most things I want. 6D 1 is better in terms of sheer output though!
The horse picture I'm pretty sure was taken with the 5D Classic because of it's color rendering and the 3D feel.
Hi, Martin. Actually I wanted to sell my RP. I donât like where they put the on/off switch, the shuttersound (cheap-ish to my ears, although very quiet) and the small battery. But you made me think again. Just discovered your channel, very well done. Subscribed.
Thanks Seb, no camera is perfect and the RP has some issues but I forgive them at that price and other cameras have their issues too some of which are worse even.
Hiya,
Brilliant video thanks, just goes to show how amazing the older tech is & always will be!
What are your thoughts on getting any colour/look you like from any camera sensor in post production when shooting raw & using LR/C1; surely raw is the digital negative of the entire spectrum of blacks, whites & greys, therefore any camera 'look' in the world could be recreated? Does it work like that? If so that would completely negate the type of camera/sensor you are using; or will every model/brand always have a signature look, even on the raw files?
Many thanks for all the videos, infinitely helpful, I'm learning loads!
Regards
so basically everyone says it works like that but it doesnt in practice. Ive worked with some very high end retouchers and even they cant do it. Raw also isnt an entire spectrum of whats captured, i think the word raw is misleading to some degree, it has colour science, noise reduction and sharpening baked into it. otherwise everything would look the same and it simply doesnt. In the end a Raw file is a digital file put together by the camera and written on a memory card. The camera manipulates the data from the sensor before writing it.
@@MartinCastein thanks for such a detailed reply, very interesting reading & good to tap into your knowledge on this. It makes a lot of sense the way you've explained it.
I've gotta say Ive always preferred the look of Canon, they're almost soft & sharp, with more depth to the image & colours. Despite Fuji's film Sims I think Canon are more filmic, I also believe Canon make their own sensors. My first X100s sensor had similar qualities & depth almost magic to Canon, before they went X Trans.
Sony & Nikon despite looking excellent seem more digital. I've owned all 4 of these brands over 10 years but am now heading back to where I started with Canon!... & You're answer above has just totally convinced me & made me realise I was probably trying to get a more Canon look in post production which is impossible to even try!
It's very nuanced but I definitely think the subtle differences are clear.
Thanks again for your insights & explanations! đ
@@MartinCastein ...I had kinda come to think the whole term 'colour science' was just another marketing ploy like Megapixels, Ibis, ISO, DR etc etc but your reply has confirmed there clearly must be fundamental pixel level differences between all camera's sensors... Really fascinating stuff thanks!
I own an RP and agree with Martin.It's a small camera and that's why I chose it when it came out. The only limits I feel about it is its lack of tracking ability when I am birding. But then I can live with that as I don't shoot birds a lot.
Awesome pictures. I also have a Classic that I love, but I struggle with front focusing issues with all of my lenses. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
If all your lenses arenât working Iâd try a different 5d really because itâs probably the camera at that rate.
@@MartinCastein Thank you Martin, I appreciate your reply. I Manual focused all day today, missed a lot less. You're right I'm learning a lot with the Classic, over all I'm pleased with the images.
Last questionâŠthe last straw with my Classic. Iâve committed to shooting manual, not without its challenges. But I think I need an Ee-S focusing screen, but theyâre no where to be found. Should I just move on and possibly get a 6D or equivalent? Thank you!
@@2big4uz If i were you if i wanted to keep a 5d id sell this one and get another then second to that if you want fairly close image but much better handling get the 6d 1
I love me some RP! I was able to aquire one for $350 and I'm obessed with its size and what it offers. I also have the Classic 5D. I use it for nostalgia as well as to aquire a look that canon hasn't re[plicaetd down to any of the other 5D models. The 5D 3 IMO also has a unique look coming from the sensor.
Have you used 4K video on the RP? It doesnât have c log correct? So how is vidoe SOOC?
focus doesnt work so its pretty limited, id probably skip this camera if you want 4k video.
If I can in post get near the classics look with my camera then I may be more satisfied but still going to grab one.
true about 5d. i found the color separation and color "clarity" microcontrast was far greater than in many modern high megapixel cameras. btw. beautiful pictures of these horses Martin - such a great captures ! , are they living in a wild ?
Hi, thanks, yes they are wild, i think they get checked on once a year but they are essentially wild, they roam a huge area freely.
Last pic is the 5d classic. The color just pops!
Hi Martin, how are you?
What's your opinion about the A6400? Do you think it can replace the RP? Im between these two options! Like so much portrait photos, but my plan is to learn all kind of photos, actually and since 9 years ago I have a 600D with a 50mm 1.8 II !
Hi, ive had the a6400 and filmed a wedding with 2 of them while also taking photos with my Nikons! For me the a6400 is more of a video camera. Thats not due to the tech but due to the body design and controls etc. Id take the RP all day every day over the a6400 for photos. Of course Sony might release a new apsc body that has a better layout for photography.
additionally canon colour science is real and for skin tones/portraits its far superior imo.
@@MartinCastein thank you very much!
My guess for the final shot would be 5D. Both are great cameras - I own the 5D and am considering to buy the RP as an everyday carry around.
Thanks Bert, yes I think the RP is a great modern alternative but always want both rather than one or the other.
@@MartinCastein never selling my 5D!
Last image has the 5D "pop" you were discussing. I'm curious about the light source(s) giving that bokeh, but I also don't want to know because it's magical.
The bokeh in the foreground is actually caused by very small leaves on a large bush that were catching the sunlight and reflecting strongly the leaves were a waxy kind of texture so the reflected more. i decided to use this as a foreground element.
@@MartinCastein great photo and great vid!
I also have the 5D4 and R5. 5D4 has beautifull color and R5 has eye AF. I am thinking about purchasing 1DX mark 3 that should have the best of the both worlds . What do you think ?
hmmmm im not sure do you think the colour from the 1dx is better than the r5? will it give you much over the r5?
@MartinCastein All I know that all the R series has bad colors. 5D4 and EOS R share the same sensor but the ones from the R are bad. So hopefully the 1DX3 would have a more traditional color space but also the Eye AF in Live View
Perhaps the RP colors are closer to the 5D2?
To my eyes the RP produces top-quality images, but the 5D produces works of art. I just want to keep looking at the 5D images and I don't know really why. I get similar with my Nikon D700, but I'm going to get a 5D now and give it a try.
I think the last image is the 5D ??? But I'm probably wrong.
Great video as always, thank you for posting.
I do own D700 and images comes out cinematic and unique, even better than my Z6.
Thanks Clive, youll find the 5D is a generation behind the D700, really a full generation behind it and i think that leap at that time was probably the biggest in DSLR usability so i warn you its basic, forget auto ISO etc. But it does produce really good files. Hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your videos. Iâm new to photography and Iâm making the leap from APS-c DSLR (Canon Rebel SL3) to full frame. Iâve found two used, very good condition cameras: the 5D Classic and a 5D Mark 2 which I acquired for just $500 USD combined. I think thatâs a good deal given I paid $700 for the Rebel new. Thanks to your videos, Iâve already put together a small lens kit consisting of the 50mm 1.8, a 24-105mm f4 L, and a 70-300mm nano USM. I have some EF-S lenses I cannot use on the 5D cameras but I think Iâll keep them because the SL3 does very good for Full HD video work. Iâm excited to keep learning and I enjoy watching you and following your advice. Thanks!
Hi, you are welcome, seems you have a good little setup there! More content coming.
@@MartinCastein bad news. I received my 5D Classic today and itâs a brick. No power with any of the 4 batteries I have. Neither with the battery grip. So Iâll be sending it back and look for something else. Perhaps a lens instead. The 5D M2 works beautifully and only had 4240 shutter activations. Very happy with that one!
@@FloridaTwoWheelAdventures ah man thats a shame sorry to hear that!
@@MartinCastein thank you. I contacted a repair shop and he said parts are unavailable for the Classic so it canât be fixed. Itâs a shame because the body is immaculate. Not a single blemish or paint chip anywhere, even on the strap loops. I figure it mustâve been damaged electrically soon after being purchased and sat somewhere for the years to follow. I may still buy another but the Mark 2 is quite fun to use and the full frame shots are remarkable compared to my Rebel camera.
@@FloridaTwoWheelAdventures just to check here, what model batteries do you have?
The shot on the RP looked like a painting. đ€
The shot you asked about is with the RP, it has the same âpaintingâ look to it.
In early 2020..
The only Camera I owned was the 5DMKII and I definitely felt it's age & limitations.
The EOS-R & RP existed but With my budget initially, I wasn't ready to move to the RF system.
I ended up buying the 6DMKII at a fantastic price Jan 2020 for about $830 on Canon's refurbished website. I honestly Loved the 6DMKII. It definitely felt like an upgrade.
The autofocus, functionality, flippy screen, added resolution & dynamic range. Etc.
I then picked up an EOS-R in Sept 2020.. I enjoyed some aspects of it but the button lay out and the touch bar thing annoyed me. I just never "got use" to it. So now I had 3 camera bodies: 5DMKII, 6DMKII & EOS-R.
In the summer of 2021 I was able to swing getting the Canon R5 in August if I sold My 6DMKII.
I personally would have rather sold the EOS-R first but I decided to go all in on the RF system.
2 mo later in late October I sold the EOS-R & picked up the R6.
The R5 & R6 work quite well together. Transitioning between the two cameras is seamless. I highly recommend both.
Overall I prefer the R5.. but the R6 is pretty damn fantastic too.
Iâd certainly like an R5 or R3 even I really like the look of the R3 personally thanks for your comment đ
@@MartinCastein I'd love to get my hands on a R3 myself
I wanna say the last image is with the RP. The color cast u mentioned is there and itd be very difficult to get a pin sharp focus of the horse's head from that far with the 5D's primitive AF. Great shot regardless. Cheers
Thank you very much yes the last image is with the rp đ
I am into astro/low light photography and I shoot with the Canon 6D and RP. I feel that the RP falls short when it comes to capturing air - glow and the stars. My 6D has started to show its age. So I am thinking about getting 6D mark ii
I think the last image is made with the RP, not much because the colors but the place of the horse in focus is not in the center and I imagine focusing outside the center is easier with the RP., and that green-yellow kind of appearance would be perfect for a green landscape with the golden light of late afternoon light. As a disclaimer I dont have neither and my Canon is a film camera he he)
Sir make a video on 5d classic vs 6d classic
Had a couple of requests for this I will try and do this.
I have both camera's and they're both solid options. The last minutes of this video explains that at the end of the day is just a tool. And some tools are smaller and some are beter build. A beter camera doesn't make you a beter photographer. However I love the last picture.
thanks :)
is it better using large JPG / RAW for 5d classic? thank you
Raw generally but try both and see what you like
Always use raw for better post processing ;)
Great video amazing images
Thank you Chris!
Try to make a interview with the Canon manufactures, the engineers of the 5d Classic! Thank you so much for your videos Martin :)
Haha that would be fun they are probably retired now!
I take a guess and say the image is from the RP. But anyway those photos you showed look stunning. And although I love my R5 there are moments when I miss my old 5D IV especially the sound of the mirror slapping up.
I donât think you should miss it too much R5 is excellent!
I think the "sleeper" right now is the 5D Sr for $1,499 brand new! I got one from B&H and do not need all new lenses and it it is exactly like my 7D Mk2.
I recently purchased a 5D classic and am having a hard time finding compatible CF cards online. Any ideas?
All cf cards should work, do you know what the compatibility issue is?
@@MartinCastein My 5D takes the Type 2 card which is 5mm thick, not the Type 1 which is 3.3mm thick and WAY easier to find.
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Final photo is, I think, RP. It's insanely sharp but has that overall colour-cast you mentioned. If I'm wrong then I regret selling my 5D.
Correct!
I had a 5Dc, 50D, 6D, 7D, M3 and now have an RP, M6 and an M100. Although I slightly regret selling my 5dc sometimes and I had the mirror fix by Canon, Iâm not going back. The RP (and all the mirrorless cameras in general) is a much better user experience than all the DSLRs âfor meâ. I use the RP for work and the M6 and M100 for personal use, the images I get from them all are great. I got lured to a Fujifilm but just didnât see the benefits, it looked cool but didât work for me.
Thanks for your input Karl, the RP is my main camera which i use 95% of the time. I really like the 5dc but i grew on that camera when i started photography as i didnt want to fork out for a 5dii at the time which was the then current camera.
Any experience with the canon 6d mkii vs the rp?
Sorry Mark I havenât used the 6d ii so canât really comment.
Beautiful colours from the 5D, I say that the last picture was taken on the 5D. I think the horse seems to pop more, stunning picture from both cameras though.
5D.. Iâm lucky enough to have both cameras so happy with either.. although lean towards the 5D cos itâs simpler to use..!
They are great to own at the same time. The 5d for its images and the RP for its modern functions and still good image quality. Thanks John :)
i am using 5d classic and i would vote for the 5d on the last image. :)
I think it was the RP, I went to DXOmark and did a comparison, I clicked on the "screen" rather than the default print option. It doesn't matter, it's a nice photo.
Thanks Keith!
The last photo is great almost like a painting. Tbh I don't care which camera it is, but I'm curious:) My guess 5d. At the end it's all about the picture.
Thanks Michal :)
fantastic review, I always disliked the color casts of the more modern cameras, it already started before the r series with the 5dmiv
I sold 5DC after long and regular use once it has started to showing its age. I sold RP after more less regular use for two years. It has failed power switch. Canon wants 1/3 of the price for new RP to fix this common among R series fault. RP was my first and last for now R series camera. Nor I'm impressed with Canon RF line. EF lenses are superior to quality/price. Using trusty 5D MKII for now. It is the joy.
Thatâs interesting you had that fault the 5d ii is excellent do think the ef glass is a bit less clinical?
@@MartinCastein L EF series are just sharp enough for me :)
Me too!
last image 5D classic is my choice, because of natural intimacy
Amazing that you could even compare these cameras thinking of the difference in tech ! I still have not decided on a camera yet ! Iâm pretty sold on the Nikon D600 but have the chance to get a D800 with 80,000 clicks for a similar price ! What you think ? Is the D800 much better ? I intend to shoot portraits/weddings on a beginner low budget basis.
Oh the d800 is excellent too if youâve found a nice one then get it đ
@@MartinCastein just wanted to let you know I have ordered the D800 with a 50mm f1.8D !!!! Really looking forward to get it in my hands
@@scottwesterman221 good choice Scott i think you will be very happy with it, sorry if I miss your replies ever I don't get notified about them and they don't show up in youtube studio i only see initial comments so finding replies is hit and miss.
@@MartinCastein no worries I get it and to be honest I thought youâd be busy too. I was a little concerned with the high MP count but better build and focus system drew me in ! I got the 50mm f1.8D to go with it too.
Thanks for all the help.
@@scottwesterman221 youll be good with that, great camera, one of the best deals around really the d800. :)
When I think I need a new camera the thing that goes through my mind is ooh new = better my camera is now obsolete, after pondering, pricing, budgeting, and realising the cost of upgrading to a new system. I think again and one of the first and most relevant things to ponder is ,are all my previous photographs ALSO obsolete, how much better can they be, can I better them with new equipment or could I better them with the equipment I have. I think if I had an unlimited budget my photos would be sharper with more MPx and I would have that crop factor but everything else would just be for convenience, at the end of the day I'm the same photographer. I think the last photo is the classic because of the depth and the feel, but the composure looks like it was taken using a screen, mind you I hate using the screen on any camera I am viewfinder all the way.
I have the 5D Classic, Mark ii, and Mark iv. The classic produces images that are 2nd to none. I prefer shooting "old school" through the viewfinder. The major difference for me is that the 5D falls apart with high ISO. If I have to shoot in low light, I leave the 5D at home; otherwise, it is preferable to some of the newest cameras on the market. IMHO
I know what you mean about shooting through the viewfinder, i kind of prefer the connection that gives. Thanks for your comment!
I hope its the 5d cos that's what I've got. It looks like your shooting throgh fairy lights. đ§ââïž
Thanks John not fairy lights itâs actually the sunlight catching really small leaves I decided to use that as part of the shot
@@MartinCastein it was the 5d right
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5d or RP. Just goes to show how the "old" technology can still hold it's own .
For sure Dan :) thanks for your comment!
I got fooled. I thought the last image was from the 5D because of the 3D effect Martin mentioned.
The colour cast gives it away, the 3d pop came more from the side lighting
Well of course the RP image of the horse has a green color cast because itâs standing in the grass so the green is reflected all over but the image with the 5d the horse is standing over a brown patch of ground so thereâs no green cast
Itâs just a general difference between the two cameras
@@MartinCastein sure, I wish both photos were taken at the same time though, side by side comparison
yes that would have been better, i do have that on another video though comparing the rp to the 5dii i think
I think in terms of full frame look the RP is not capable enough to show such a depth of field as the 5d does. It is for whatever reason a full frame but without any effect. So I would cpme to the conclusion to buy a 250d and to be happy. Or in my case a 60d:) Cheersđ
I'm so sick of all the "pros" on youtube talking about "the RP is okay if you're a beginner" ......meanwhile, your photos with the RP look way better than theirs with their expensive Sony setups. People are so hypnotized by the marketing and tech, they forget what photography is about.
thanks, i understand where you are coming from. I think people forget that the camera is just a tool. for certain people that sony might do things they need for their job but the idea that any camera is for beginners or not capable is just silly. Its all about what the photographer can do. People think about their gear far too much and not enough about what they are doing.
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Well...if its the 5D..no wonder why we all love the 5D series(i have a 5DSr...its ridiculous) If its the RP....send a sample to 23and me and i think we will find a direct descendentđ€đđ€
The last picture has the magic of 5D in it, but the colours make me guess that it is the RP... Am I right?
Yep itâs the rp !
@@MartinCastein I swear I didnÂŽt read the comment where you say that, I found it just now...
Iâm guessing the RP
I donât agree with you about getting the camera away from the face. Thatâs the opposite of beneficial to me.
What I do enjoy with the R and RP is being able to use the rear touch screen like a track pad to easily and precisely move the focus point around the evf.
thats fair enough, i like being able to get it away from my face as an option so i can put the camera at angles that would take more effort to really get to. Everyone is different though. :)
@@MartinCastein Oh yes, please don't misunderstand me. I enjoy using the flip out screen to get new and interesting angles where appropriate but when shooting normally, I do prefer to use the EVF. It's more stable and really focuses your attention on the composition only since that's all you can see.
I know what you mean Ian I agree with that, I use the EVF mainly but sometimes its nice to be able to get different angles with the flip out screen :)
Side note on the people asking for 5Dc vs 6D
I bought a 6d to use my 5dc less because I thought theyâd be similar enough that Iâd always go for the 6D, and my 5D would get a bit of a reprieve.
What happened was I ended up selling the 6d because I kept coming back to the 5D. Itâs simple and rugged and I felt more at home on it.
Iâd say if someone owned a 6d first and bought a 5Dc sometime later, theyâd probably keep going back to the 6D
Thats a good comment Maddy, i think it depends partly on what you photograph too but yes i basically agree.
How did the 6d handle compared to the 5Dc? I'm thinking of getting a 6d but I don't want to change my workflow^^ The 6d seems close enough. How did you find it? Apart from in the end liking the 5d more and selling the 6d that is!
Imagine canon put the canon 5d classic into a r5 body- canon might likely regain the mirrorless camera from Sony, a me also feels that the 5d classic is a far better piece of machine in terms of colour feels, and dynamic range
Ive thought about this too and i think it would be a very interesting move and it will never happen hahah but i would like it a lot, although i would miss the ka-klunk of the of the mirror unit.
Last image is rp.
Last pic is definitely 5D
My vote: 5D Classic
I think most interesting is that this horse is malnourished and underfed...
Itâs a wild horse for gods sake.
LOL canon rp costs used ~600euro so for that money 6dII or 5d III ... classic its for G A S people to admire it on the shelf
It was just for fun