FATALLY FLAWED 😬 Wilbon has NO solution for Phoenix's roster + Lakers' HC search | NBA Today
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Adrian Wojnarowski, Michael Wilbon and Kendrick Perkins join Malika Andrews on NBA Today to discuss where Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns go from here after the firing of Frank Vogel before speaking on the Los Angeles Lakers' head coaching search.
0:00 Suns fire Frank Vogel, eye Mike Budenholzer
3:26 Perk: KD lacks leadership
6:52 Lakers' coaching search
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Imagine working one year for a five year salary, and $31 million at that. Not a bad gig.
No post presence, no point guard, no coach, and Beal was a horrific trade when you could've signed numerous players who'd actually contribute.
they werent patient and just let chris paul contract expire
@@johnathanguimaraes327Chris Paul NBA career is expired…
Beal is horrible
Knows basketball. need to trade Beal and get an elite point guard. Idk if Beal has that value tied to his name tho.
Devin Booker has the highest trade value on the team and since no one is taking Beal off their hands Booker is the obvious piece that needs to be moved.
Why Wilbon didn't give the Suns the same energy he had about the Lakers with the Suns no accountability there I see.
Facts💯
We all know why lol
Wilson is a clown, and certified Lebron hater.
Wilson is CLEARLY showing his love and allegiance for MJ, he’s been trashing the Lakers all year to tear down Bron, but Durant is now on his 7th coach in 6 seasons and he says nothing. Media is sad with their agendas
No one says Kd is the goat
How are you suppose to improve as a team when you're constantly changing rosters and coaches?
The new owner thinks he is gonna cheat code his way by having big names without an actual bench
I know this sounds Cray Cray but they were better off running it back with CP3 and Ayton. This ain't a good look for the suns regardless.
Doesnt sound crazy to me, I loved the team before with Mikal Bridges, Cameron Payne, Cam Johnson, solid squad etc. this super team nonsense aint it.
That team was way better than this
@@khojomorrison5493 yep, wayy better. More complete.
The one coach that would fix these laps in defense and attention to detail is Mark Jackson but NO body wants to hire him!! Crazy! He also would be a better coach for Milwaukee!
@@jyanharris7957 why doesn't anyone want to hire him ?
Why doesn't Mike wilbon have the same energy for the Suns players as he did for the Lakers for their coach getting fired?? Then he says the Suns don't have the talent, but that's exactly what the Lakers problem is also
Exactly
He's a biased clown man.
no the lakers do have the talent. imagine having lebron and Anthony davis on same team and needing more help. lolol
@@vulcanraven9701imagine having kevin durant, devin booker and bradley beal and complaining about talent
@@vulcanraven9701 Imagine having KD, Book, and Beal and needing more help. That's 3 top scorers.
A big 3 can work if one is a leader, and one of them has to run the offense, someone to score, someone to defend, or at least score differently then the other scorer. Suns got 3 of the same players with no floor general and no leader and no defensive presence.
Pretty much this is an ownership issue you can't just pluck max contract guys and say 'go win me something'
Someone also has to be able to downplay their role and still be effective. It cant be 3 guys all trying to go out and lead the team in scoring every game. Getting 3 isolation scorers who are most effective when theyre the centerpiece of the offense was moronic.
Phoenix traded away so many assets, they don't have much to work with. This wasn't the coach's fault, this is strictly on the owner. I would not take that job, you'll be set up for failure.
For 50 million you would take that job
@@deronr7560 I actually live by "all money ain't good money", why would I want the embarrassment of dealing with that dysfunctional organization. The owner thinks he knows better than the people he has under him.
Bucks are dealing with the same issue in the East. Their assets are completely gone, and the roster is aging. Fortunately, they got a title in 21 but yeah I’ve noticed the parallels with the Suns and Bucks.
@@AdamMS1384 Yep, but Giannas put the pressure on ownership and management to make this bad moves. And he's been hurt the last 2 playoffs, it's the crazy part.
JJ Redick coaching LeBron would be absolutely hilarious
If I’m Budenholzer, I’m taking advantage of Ishbia’s desperation and his pockets and making sure that retrenchment package is airtight and overflowing with dollars 💰💰💰💰
He really should’ve waited for a better job to open up. The sun roster is terrible and they can’t make many moves
Player payroll and staff payroll are too different things.
If I’m Budenholzer I’m staying far away from this job. It’s a setup and if he doesn’t get to a Western conference finals at the minimum he’ll be gone just like Monty Williams and Vogel. If I’m Budenholzer I’ll try and wait for the Celtics job. If Mazzulla doesn’t win it all with this team he could be gone as well.
Stephen A "Bradley Beal ended up looking like a Washington Wizard" 😂
If you look at Beals numbers when available, he has great numbers. He's not a PG, he's better off ball.
@@goodymob9638saw him in the playoffs.. You got to be joking
@@jvtopflight796 Go look at his numbers though, I can gaf What you thought you saw. He averaged 18-4-5, 51% fg, only 22% usage, and 44% in 3s.... you're a casual bruh.
@@goodymob9638”go look at his numbers”
Go look at the games, that dude sucks. He was a great player on a bad team, on a good team…. He’s slightly above average when available.
😂😂 another classic
Mike Wilbon was on Lebron and AD's head but he's giving KD and Book an all access pass. He's a clown.
Because lebron and AD are both first ballot hall of famers. Nooker isnt. also KD isnt much w.o steph
A lot of that had to do with the GOAT conversation. Wilbon and SAS feel like they have to protect MJ's legacy as if fans don't already know how great MJ was.
@Kingfish-You hit the nail on the head. That's all Wilson's rant was all about. Trying to protect MJ goat debate
Your clueless if you can’t see that this situation is different than what’s going on in LA.
@@vulcanraven9701 KD isn't much? He's a first ballot hall of famer before he arrived in Golden State.
Each team needs a leader & locker room energy guy. They got neither.
Perk throwing shade at KD's professionalism lmao
Perk still mad about that day KD blasted him on twitter with the womping 5 points a game.
@@jordynsmith24 hes still right though even if he was a bad player. This is KDs second failed superteam
@@vin8754it's not a super team
Woban super salty on behalf of his friend Ham. They shouldn’t let him contribute on these Lakers coach discussions because of that connection. Clearly not neutral
They constructed a horrible roster and then needed a scapegoat in case it failed….enter Frank Vogel
Sometimes too much talent doesn't work it's all about chemistry.
6 yrs 6 coaches... Lol
I honestly don't understand why they had to blow up the Suns team after they got beaten by the Mavs two years ago. They were the number 1 team in the Western Conference, had a ton of depth, and more options for the future. Now they have two aging stars, no draft picks, and no depth.
Facts. Pairing KD and Booker nice move. Gutting the asset chest and hinging their winning on Beal... Not so much
Coach Bud and Vogel have similar résumé, both have 1 ring, coach of the year with Bucks and Pacers respectively. So what can Bud do with the Suns, my guess is Suns will fail next season as well.
Exactly. Surely one of the “big 3” will complain about something in the season and once again the coach will be the scapegoat because of it. Smh.
Superteams are in trouble. Great for the NBA.
The suns need to trade nurkic and get great role players. They should also trade Beal to get ethier a different 3rd star or great role players to build a better team around booker and KD. Get them an actual point guard to lead and facilitate. They should also start Bol Bol at the power forward or center.
WHY CANT THE MAVS GET A SEGMENT ALL THIS CANT WAIT TILL AFTER THE PLAYOFFS ‼️
MFFL
Should have kept CP3
Great show.
Coach bud should have never left the bucks. Giannis and dame should really consider bringing him back. Enough with the Doc Rivers nonsense.
Wilbon getting the hate bron check. He didn’t use championship coach frank against kd after one year but agree to rookie coaches constantly. Who have the better roster Kd suns or lakers ??
They are both crap, and it is the fault of their two biggest stars. The Lakers roster is as it is because they went and got rid of guys LeBron didn't like and brough in guys he wanted. The Suns got rid of some players KD did not want to play with and brought in Beal because he wanted to play with him. That left both teams with very little help in the supporting cast. That is on the two stars and the GMs who bent over backwards for them ... not the coaches (though I really don't think Ham waould have been much better with a better roster).
Why do they keep referring to Perkins
Thumbnail pic of Kevin hair line is mad disrespectful lol
COACH BUD LMAO cmon
There are 30 teams in the NBA every team can't be on top.. The Suns are done unless they trade Booker
The worst trade the sun's made was getting Beal and the massive trade they made for KD, they haven't yet recovered and this looks like it can be a very long rebuild in Phoenix, KD production isn't what it use to be and Booker production was slacking and factor in Beal stayed injured. The GM gotta figure out this roster fast and quick
The coach matters but this isnt the issue. There's no player who is the look-to leader when it matters. Book, KD and Beal all are deferential in that way. Great ballers but no leadership.
We're in the second round of the playoffs. Wolves cooking the the Nuggets, Knicks cheating, Dallas-OKC, Cleveland-Boston are 1-1, and they're talking about the bummy Suns and Lakers still.
They need to trade Beal ASAP.
No trade clause
They can't no one will want his deal. No one wanted it before. They can only trade KD/Book
@@ronniesandiego1893 yeah this video reminded me lol
@@blablablaa14 well then KD and Book both need to leave, Suns are done 🤣
Not happening
The issue with Mike Budenholzer its his lack of adjustments in the playoffs he did not made any against Jimmy Butler and the Heat he was outcoached by Spoelstra.
A new coach isn’t gonna fix the fact that the suns need a table setter and a leader
It's not the coach's fault. Remember it was KD who said he "does not need a coach" when he was with the Nets.
What’s the point of giving someone a five years contract when yu knew you probably gone fire him
Has Mark Jackson been blackballed or what?
Obviously
Lakers should recruit Chris Quinn. 10 plus yrs under Spoelstra and Riley. Excellent at players development . Maybe more ideal for a rebuild but he's got alot of battle experience in deep playoff runs last 10yrs.
will buldenhozer brings darvin ham and adrian griffin as assistant ?
CP3 took em to the Finals with Book and Ayton. Now they got swept with KD Book and Beal. 😂
Darvin Ham is available 😂
Suns & Lakers HC will tarnish any coaches resume.
How does it work when you get fired on a 5 year contract? Anyone know if they pay him for the full contract or just a year?
They keep paying them as if they were still coaching I believe
I hate when teams make players play out of their primary position
Exactly what I been saying. The roster is flawed. Frank Vogel should not have been fired
It's crazy how they're not mention Mark Jackson 🤦🏾♂️ I really hate that he's blackballed..
Patience is a thing of the past. This team had issues regardless of coaching. Frank didn’t have the players nor the time. One season is crazy
The era of just throwing superstars together is over. U need chemistry & good role players. Vs just throwing top whatever stars together & expecting a win
In the most organic way all teams are being forced to develop from the inside out. No more bought and paid for championships because the bag's been compromised which creates a lane for potentially new dynasties we never would've expected. The order of the day for franchises will likely be hiring superior player development and conditioning personnel, etc. "You gotta love the players your with... love the players your with!" 😅
They got what they deserve, gave team away for one man, now look at them don't have a clue what to do with the team.sad😢😢
Grumpy Wilbon is GREAT 😂👏🏾
And they need mark Jackson or Jeff van gun if he's available
If Bron needs to retire isn’t it fair KD should too🤔
lol Wilbon is about blaming players not coaches. The Suns have enough to not get swept or lose 4th leads. Frank is a defensive coach.
“A little different”
“Best out of AD”
You mean like Coach K??
6:04
Wasn't SGA traded TO Oklahoma FOR Paul George?
Budenholzer would have to be insane to go that dumpster fire
The Suns didn’t “fire” Frank Vogel. They let Frank Vogel go free. Hope the man enjoys every dollar the Suns owe him.
It's what happens when the players are building the rosters
Is it me....or does anybody else think these sports shows is getting ridiculous
Must be nice drawing a salary spewing hindsight opinion. Woj is one of very few with credibility IMO.
Laker GM is the major problem with team basketball decision.
The Suns are making a good choice in Budenholzer. He will craft a system that will get them a top-4 seed in the West.
KD better become the playoff adjustments because that's what he can't offer.
Who says any of those guys other than JJ wants to be their coach????
Bud is not tactically one of the best coaches as Woj said, his issues were not making adjustments in playoffs. He’s a great regular season coach.
why i think woj would be so much cuter if he took dem glasses off
you meant to tell me that Mike Budenholzer won't immediately fix the Suns? 😵
ESPN using emojis in their descriptions is so immature to me …im JS
I don't understand. Frank Vogel won the toughtest NBA title in history with the Lakers and now he can't keep a job.
They don't need another super player they need power forward point guard role players
They should’ve never traded for Beal, brought back CP3 and filled out the rest of the roster specifically a solid bench
The coach ain’t the problem the roster is the problem they don’t have a point guard for starters
Suns are basically screwed unless they break up one of those big 3 into a number of more solid role players
Sure... Jeanie and Rob totally have this.. their history shows great decision making 😅
4:21 perk an absolute liar lol, KD never said he didn't want CP
Imagine paying $50 million a year for Kevin Durant right now when you could pay $35 mil for Ant Edwards 😅
They should’ve hired him last year before Vogel but they don’t know why they talking about
Perk right. Super teams are dated. You can’t be too heavy anymore. No more gimmick offenses. You need a big again and you need a PG with vision.
They should have kept Monty Williams... Especially if they got rid Ayton anyway
At this point all you can do is hire a new coach and hopes he makes it work
I thought Book would be the leader. He needs to step up, he’s the face of the Suns, has to lead them out of the doldrums.
Don’t they got point guards? Why tf they can’t get them men up to speed???
Mark Jackson as Lakers new coach
Lakers need a new GM I don’t like how our team is being managed
Did Perk just imply that KD orchestrated CP3’s exit cause he didn’t want to be held accountable by him…? 😳😳😳
He signed a 5 year for god knows how much. If he makes it to the 3rd ill be surprised
They should not have traded CP3 for Beal.
Where will KD go next?
GREat for the SUNS!!!!!!!
Lakers' experiments concerning their BIZ and labels are priorities always forefront
The Suns are cursed for unfairly taking the team away from Robert Sarver and running him out of the league for basically no reason.
So you look to Wilbon for solutions?
Media has no patience for Phoenix. Therefore Phoenix front office has no patience either! Okc, Timberwolves, Denver, and even the warriors. All were patient and it paid off. Phoenix makes moves like the front office is on meth.
Durant is 36 and clearly declining when you watch the games ( not look at his stats). He just isn’t as dominant on both ends of the floor.
They should give him the ball more.. Book has the ball way too much.. Wolves made him look real bad.. Book looked lost out there
jj really working hard on leroids knob for that job 😂😂😂
If you can’t win with devin Booker, Kevin Durant, and Bradley Beal, idek what to tell you lol
If you think Beal is still a good player, you should watch another sport lol
@@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk you’re missing the point. It’s the COMBINATION OF ALL 3, that’s what’s so crazy
@@BrotherKellerman Means nothing. You can't add garbage to two studs and expect them to be great collectively lol
i'm glad my goat steph curry don't have all these dramas coach situation
Not necessarily flawed. Just need a point guard and move Nurk for a Defensive alley threat that can rebound and rim protect. Slide KD up to the 4. Book to the 3 and keep Beal at the 2. Then Perk gone say KD didn't want CP cause he was gonna hold him accountable 😏. Stop it CP was making 35-40 million hust to get hurt at the wrong time. Stop it