Porsche Panamera vs Taycan - The COMPLETE Challenge | Fifth Gear
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The Porsche Taycan is generally considered to be the EV sports car of the moment. Incredible performance, 250 mile range, yet still a proper 4 seater. And the top of the tree Turbo S model is ballistic. Yes, it costs £140,000, but it has 750 hp, gets to 62 mph in 2.8 seconds and goes on to 162mph. Absolutely nothing can come close. Except perhaps, its petrol-powered relative, the £140,000 Porsche Panamera Turbo S e-Hybrid. This boasts nearly 700 hp, gets to 62 in 3.5 seconds and goes on to nearly 200mph. And its lighter.
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If you notice during the acceleration/braking test you can see Vicki’s hair moving backwards and forwards from the G-forces of the created by the Taycan. I’ve never seen anything like that before
I was going to make the same comment. It was amazing.
Sure that the Panamera‘s suspension was in the stiffest mode? Because I have never seen such body roll of a Panamera…
Ride height certainly doesn't look like it's on the low setting. He says it's in sports plus which would normally mean low and stiff but I have my doubts.
He forgot to set
He certainly didn’t have PDCC on
U can tell the interior accents in the Panamera is nicer than the Taycan's, where it's interior is simpler than the Panamera's with less trim bits and garnishments
Yes, I had both of these . Given that I had the panamera first , I was constantly comparing the interior of the Taycan to it. I could not unsee the diminished trim finish in the Taycan
The Taycan looks the way the Panamera should have always looked. Taycan Cross Turismo is the middle ground!
Yep They Should've Just Used The Taycan Design 4The Panamera
The taycan is an absolute spaceship on wheels. Also he should have driven them both for an accurate time comparison.
Nice that has a properly integrated screen rather than the "laptop on a shelf" so many other manufacturers go for
I went in the taycan turbo s last week when I visited my brother . It’s insanely fast . Suspension is fantastic too . Makes my m2 feel like a robin reliant
Yeah, model S plaid is nice, but not as comfortable overall as Taycan and Taycan Turbo S is slightly more fun too.
Reliant Robin - that's like saying you went in a Taycan Porsche
@@danielmiller9012I'm willing to bet a 1000hp taycan is faster than a 1000hp tesla.
Why didn't we get a time? The whole 0-100mph-0 is a supercar standard but they didn't give a time, instead just going by a distance? We didnt even get the distance to see how competitive it is?
Terrible really
Very Nice and based on real world performance figures
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Niki's is very nice and natural anchor
Love the white Taycan with the white wheels 🎉
A full second is a lightyear difference on such a short track.
What track is it?
Especially when comparing a fast driver with a F1 driver
Impressive video.
Just wish you had used the non-hybrid version of the Panamera Turbo S to test, and why not the Cross Turismo version of the Taycan? The Panamera is a much larger and roomier car, too.
Tragically, none of the Taycan reviews ever show the back seat. The back seat room in a Panamera is amazing. I can take my friends out for dinner in style. Can I do that with a Taycan?
@@rickintexas1584yes the back seats are very spacious & the nice panoramic roof gives it a very open feeling. I take my family around in my taycan all the time.
The Panamera isn't much larger: 5049 x 1937 vs. 4963 x 1966 mm for the Taycan. It's packaged better.
@@rickintexas1584 Yes easily. I have had 4 grown adults in my Taycan often. The Panamera has more space though.
Panamera GTS - this should have been the choice for handling course.
The sound she makes when launching 😂 9:35
Vicki wins for facial expressions !
Love that they’ve kept a traditional gauge cluster and normal sized screen, not this monster LCD stuff coming from BMW, Lexus, etc
actually, I hated the gauges in my BMW at first, but you get used to these after a week. the screen actually looks better "on the shelf" like in BMW. but each to their own.
Plus ! The Taycan Turbo s is a very attractive car!
0 - 100 - 0 mph. That gap is difficult to believe😮😮. Seeing is believing.
Did we not see this already here on YT?
I have a 4-seat Porsche. 2 people in the back of my 997 Turbo, as long as they don't have legs.
I once got a 5'11" model in the back of my 911. She insisted. I didn't think she was going to fit, but she angled herself and took up the whole back.
Ahh the fun memories.
A real Porsche then❤
taycan is just next level, and then they made the cross 😍
Great for Wales's 20 mph limit!
Hold on, Vicky goes away in the Panamera to get home but declares the Taycan as winner…only in speed!
Tycan has a crappy interior, but is the faster of the two.
@@aaronb7996 its definitely not crappy. I have had my 4S for almost 3 years, and the interior is still in great shape. Only minor is the door sides bolsters from the seats, which have been wearing down somewhat.
I guarantee we will still be buying petrol and diesel cars after 2030
At a comparison level below that of your testers, the Taycan 4S Cross Turismo competes squarely with the Panamera E-Hybrid. I first drove he Panamera, in 4S guise, back when it was launched and since then the car has just become that much more capable and attractive. But without a doubt, choosing the Taycan 4S CT was the better choice for us. Imagine a world where you wake up to a full tank (or 80% full if you want your tanks to keep operating optimally) every morning, for 20% of the comparable $/km of gas; or can pay for your fuel using the panels on the roof of your house. Now imagine with zero fuss or fanfare, sub 4 second 0-60 launches are the turn of a knob and two pedals pushes away, all day. Every time you get into the vehicle it’s the temp you choose. And it drives with ethereal, telepathic precision leaving you to think “well of course it does; it’s a Porsche…”
The hood line is low and blends 911 with Mission E. Looks are gorgeous and everyone around town looks twice to see “what was that?!?”
Both are amazing cars and there are certainly some luxurious touches the Panamera has over the Taycan. Ultimately Taycan wins!
The 20% of the cost will only hold as long as EVs are a small minority of vehicles on the road. The UK government gets over £25 billion a year in fuel duty, and another £12 billion in fuel VAT; it will get that money from somewhere else (e.g. electricity...). In the US, taxes on fuel are lower, but the same applies (never mind the current "eco-incentives" on vehicle purchases).
@@dlevi67 you are wrong. The cost of solar panels is coming down and infact right now today it's VERY affordable to put solar for your home/EV.
How is the government going to increase the cost of electricity while you are the one manufacturing it? And you're able to expand on you're production capabilities each year at lower overheads.
Answer: they can't/won't
I have been taken around Silverstone in a Taycan S Turbo and the Porsche drivers do not hold back, full send from the moment you launch (with launch control that 2.8s).
I can testify that in high speed corner and tight corners there is little to no body roll and the grip is insane. One of my drivers even tried to get the car to break traction mid corner at about 100mph... Nope, the tires would NOT allow and the chassis was way too planted.
The Taycan is a beast and a total sleeper. If you pulled up next to one in many supercars you are about to get a very fast surprise when the Taycan leaves the scene.
Depending on where you read online it's 2.8 or 2.6s 0-60 (0-100 kph).
The launch control is almost dangerous. If your passengers head is not forced back into the headrest.... It's about to be... In a very violent way.
@@michael-masi-2021 The cost of electricity is not at all what I'm talking about. It's the government's tax revenue deriving from fossil fuels that will decrease and eventually disappear. However, the rest of public spending (of money coming from taxation) is not majorly influenced by the price of energy, and will still need to be financed.
If the government can't get that revenue by increasing electricity prices (and they may or may not be able to - they could simply outlaw unregulated solar panels and tax the regulated ones, just like they do with alcohol duty), other taxes will have to go up. From VED to road charging to whatever else they come up with.
ETA: whether the balance in tax changes results in "lower costs" going to the owners of BEVs is a completely open question; it might, it might not, it might even reverse the situation. What is certain is that that amount of tax revenue will not simply be forgotten or forgiven.
@@dlevi67 the OP talked about 20% the cost (of electricity) per km. You disputed the OP. You are wrong. Now you're trying to say something utterly different.
Now you're trying to state to obvious ... That missing money from government coffers has to be replaced with ........ More money!
Your idea of taxing solar panels is preposterous to say the least.
My Rolex watch is also slower than my battery operated Casio watch about 5 minutes a year😂
The panamera turbo S non-hybrid would be quicker around the track than both of the cars in this video.
This was what I was about to write. The Turbo S petrol is my overall choice.
The audio could be rated R.
Agreed The Panamera & Caymen Underated
i drove the Audi RS E-Tron GT recently and yeah it's as good as they say but Panamera has double the range and double the boot space, which is what matters in the real world ... the test also should have included Model S Plaid which is as fast as Taycan and has a boot as big as Panamera while also having a peerless charging network ... of course Tesla's quality is some of the worst while Porsche's is some of the best, but also Tesla is far cheaper. Personally i will not consider a Tesla but my friend just got a Plaid and is very happy. I think all 3 cars have something great to offer.
Taycan way more classy
So. On the acceleration test you didn’t press the sport response button in the middle of the mode selector on the Panamera to give ur its full power. And it looks like in the track test, yes the car was in sports + but the suspension didn’t look like it was set to the low ride height.
Muito bom!!!
140 grand….I will have two…..one for me and the wife…..obviously having to sleep in it coz I’ve sold the house…..
Gear heads are about to get real mad at me, but the Taycan is basically the electrical replacement of the Panamera! Porsche is slowly going through their lineup and adding electric versions to their popular models. One day, the 911 will cross over! That will be the last line to do it though.
And with all due respect, one of the drivers was an F1 driver/racer, I honesty think it would have been an even larger gap in the lap time.
In the real world does anybody drive like this and keep their license….it’s ridiculous 😂
The Panamera is a full size luxury and sporty limousine, the Taycan is (inside)only a midsize car. They both drive equally well, so the more roomy Panamera is the better car for me
Both cars are 5 meters long Grand Tourismo cars. I pick the on that can drive at least 500km before I need to stop for an hour to charge it. EV has its niche around your home; shopping or commuting to work. EVs are terrible for long distance driving.
who wants to drive 500 km without stopping?? Why not 1000 km or 3000 km?
I stop every 200 km and charge my Taycan 4S for 5-10 minutes. An hour?? 🤡
I used to drive my 535i from Stockholm to Austria in about 20-21 hours. My Taycan does 21-22 and it's about 100 times more relaxing.
Does Porsche Doesn't Sound Like Porsche🤣🤪🤫🙊
Bring back Tiff
The seats probably aren’t as comfortable in the Taycan because they had to weight save there.
They aren't as comfortable because they are the even sportier seats. Where they lack comfort they score in sportiness. And to be honest I do prefer them over the Panamera seats. But everyone's different, and I find them to be quite comfortable. Even with a full day of driving they are never too harsh.
@@tronderikbrekke8792 And also, you can specify exactly which seats you would like to use, so it would be a personal choice of the buyer. The 18 way seats are excellent though, I agree.
I like the seats in the Taycan way more than in the Panamera (I have the 14-ways) but each to his own. I love the low sitting position
Panamera turbo s vs taycan turbo s..
Why hybrid panamera, why plug in hibryd..
Pure petrolhead forever..
Panamera turbo s..
Lighter, better, with soul.. ❤
I hate the frontal aspect of the Taycan - it seems they took inspiration from a road-kill toad and added a bit of bearded tit into the mix to produce this mess. I'm very glad to see they have a much more conventional Porsche treatment in store for the front of the 2024 Panamera.
LOL. NEXT TIME TRY PLAID. 😂
Not even in the same league with Porsche unless you want to compare straight line. With all due respect and coming from someone who owns a Tesla today, Tesla is the dude with massive biceps doing curls in the squat rack.
Did you guys see her hair on accel and stopping?😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣
EV range if driven quickly is pathetic. Unliveable for me. Panamera every time.
panamera is superior overall
more reliable than Tycan rn
These cars are not comparable one is a 4 seat with a massive boot one is a 2 plus 2 with no boot .
10:00 more like she got to 100kmh 🤦🏻♂️
So why did Karun do the same when he was trying to beat her in the Panamera?
I TAKE LUCID ANYDAY……
The future is electric
@@jonny_laguna synthetic fuel only exist in the lab and hydrogen cost about $15 a gallon
142k...lol no thanks.
Don’t care about what you say. Drive it to the Italian Alps. The panamara will beat the electric taycan and No range anxiety. And wasted time filling/charging
Having been taken for hot laps at Silverstone by the Porsche Experience team, I can say resolutely that you are wrong. That Taycan Turbo S can be driven in anger and has so much grip it's almost disturbing, plus you can see how fast it will exit a corner. Plus there is far far far less body roll in the Taycan because of it's low Center of gravity
This is the ultimate car.... Until the Cayman-E (they will never make an electric 911).
Well i drove the Taycan there, i own one for two years now, and i am very sorry to deeply oppose here! The taycan drives totally against everything i experienced before and nearly not within in the laws of physics. It is crazy and i love it
You living in the past
@@carlosbrazao6039if he rooted for the taycan you’d say the same thing
Grumpy old karen with no idea
"King EV" that gets its butt handed to it by a 10 year old Tesla 😂
where?
@@heybeyoriginal anytime they meet 😉
@@skodbolle never seen that, u have a vid?
@@heybeyoriginal The difference is staggering!
@@skodbolle just share a video here mate haha ive never seen a 2013 tesla hand a taycan its butt in any way shape or form, be it interior, driving experience, quality of material or speed. I am honestly curious so please enlighten me
He did 100 mph,she did 100 kph.
Panamera is obsolete and looks like a awkwardly stretched cayman
EVs are fantastic. But normally you don't do racing starts every red light. I would rather have range. Yes, taycan do 500 standing starts but only 250 miles of range.
Needing range is the biggest misconception ever. I just drove from Espoo to Rovaniemi and back and not even once was I craving for range. I need a small rest every 200 km, so I charged my Taycan for 5-10 minutes. What you need is a fast charging 800V car and fast chargers!! You need to learn to drive your battery to about 3-8 % and when empty and warmed (use Intelligent range manager), it will charge super fast.
@@peterhammer4644 In UK, I have seen a leaf being used 2 to 3 days before it needs a charge, it has regeenrative charging and most driving is on B roads and city driving.
In faster traffic on the highways, the charge drops faster, and range can be an issue if you expect 300 miles, but are getting 200 miles at highway speeds. But I do understand the charging speed and network is more important to compete with the gas engines.
@@wozmac771 normally in the capital area I charge my car at home only once in 4 days.
Yes the charge drops quite a lot driving at 130 km/h in compared to 80 km/h and also in the winter months it drops significantly. But even then it's not an issue if you keep your battery temperature high enough.
@@peterhammer4644 Thats my concern. I love EVs for lack of maintenance. Sincerely getting tired of mechnics and their wait times even for a simple oil change.
@@wozmac771 I am super happy with my Taycan. As a traveller car its by far the best I have ever had. As a whole its on par with my E92 M3 I had with different strengths. I had the heater problem last winter but apart from that its been totally error free.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👍👍
Too bad the Taycan is electric.
"Absolutely nothing can come close" ...Tesla model S plaid with track package is significantly quicker on a track, has a higher top speed, more power, quicker acceleration, higher efficiency, longer range, is safer, has better software and is less expensive.
The Tesla is definitely not safer LMFAO. It's a much lighter car with way worse materials used. Also it
1. looks horrible
2. interior sucks in every possible way
3. materials feel very cheap
4. using the glued i-pad when driving is dangerous
5. its not significantly faster on track, on the Ring time they cheated with tyres, lighter car and many more things. Easy to find this in the internet.
6. it drives way worse (haven't driven the Plaid but the "ludicrous" mode Model S several times) and the handling is not even close to the level of the Taycan
7. its way less comfortable, noises everywhere that would drive me mad
8. its a Tesla
@@peterhammer4644
The objective tests say it is safer.. safety =/= upholstery, lol.
1 and 2 are you pretending your opinions are facts and 3 is an indication that it is actually very cheap compared to the Taycan.
"4. using the glued i-pad when driving is dangerous" Except that statistics suggest Teslas are significantly safer than the average car
"5. its not significantly faster on track, on the Ring time they cheated with tyres, lighter car and many more things. Easy to find this in the internet. "
Misinformation which you probably believe because you hate Tesla, propagated by others who hate Tesla on the internet. The Tires are part of the track package and the car is lighter because Tesla has superior battery engineering to Porsche, among other things.
"6. it drives way worse (haven't driven the Plaid but the "ludicrous" mode Model S several times) "
The Plaid is a completely different car .
"and the handling is not even close to the level of the Taycan"
Not true with the track package. It showed higher cornering speeds than the Taycan, and slightly higher lateral acceleration even without those tires.
7. "its way less comfortable, noises everywhere that would drive me mad"
Untrue, it is a rather quiet car.
8. "its a Tesla "
That explains your bias, then.
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@@cubozoan9448 You must be the biggest Tesla fanboy I have ever seen in youtube. Congrats 🍺. Telling the i-pad is the safest way to drive is the ultimate joke. Many of my friends have a mod 3perf and they hate it. And the thing you won't even check the cheats Tesla made, tells all.
But if you are happy with your Plaid, great!! I have driven more than 10 different Teslas and apart from acceleration in a straight line they disappoint me in every possible way EVERY time.
@@peterhammer4644Statistics > your opinions about safety(or anything else) . I suppose that's why you didn't respond to most of my points..
@@cubozoan9448 statistics? Not in Europe where I live.
I responded to a few of those. Most are of some imaginary alternate world 😂.
But if you own a Plaid and you are happy with it, fair play to you!
cant believe they swapped Tiff Needel for an AT&T customer service rep from India
Dream on about this 2030 thing. It won't happen.
Sorry, i dont like an rpm count bigger than than the speedo
Keep pushing the EV governmental program but they just ain’t selling the depreciation alone is enough to put a normal person of buying one and let’s not forget Batteries have a shelf life 🤑🤑👎
I can’t Liston Karun anymore … so annoyed by his commentary on AD 21 and his love for Redbull
Panamera looks so dated compared to taycan
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That is the worst spec panamera ive ever seen. Why would someone do grey on grey. Thats horrible.
Looks even worse when it switches to the super nice red interior on the taycan.
0-60 in 2.8? For this price? Tesla does it ins 1.9 seconds for half the pricr
They are not the best looking cars. If the badge was not Porsche, they'd not get the same kudos.
Thats a lie
I know the guy is an ex F1 driver and a millionaire but he is just the most boring and vanilla person I have ever seen. He'd wear pink socks when he wants to go wild.😑
You just know this man first got that haircut at 11 and stuck with it. It's crazy how so many F1 drivers are literally THE most boring people on Earth. Not all. Some are insane and that's awesome. But most of them are this dude.
The dude needs to start learning how to properly pronounce “porsche”.
Different drivers. Not a good comparison.
The Interieur of the Taycan is absolutely horrible compared to a Panamera….. not sure what they thought but it is absolutely insanely ugly and not user friendly